i am guessing that the only reason that nintenodo won is that it has a high fan base. other then that. warhammer would kill nintendo and all of it charaters.

“i am guessing that the only reason that nintenodo won is that it has a high fan base. other then that. warhammer would kill nintendo and all of it charaters.”

I’m geusing the only reason you said that is because you lack the ability to think “2000+ coments!? I wonder if anything important was said there…”

“I’m geusing the only reason you said that is because you lack the ability to think “2000+ coments!? I wonder if anything important was said there…”

Don’t blame him. If he has only seen the last page, all there is is spam.

“Yea, but 2000 spam posts?! C’mon, there’s no way that could be the case.”

Have you read Admin versus Factpiler Zombies?

Much as I fought for 40K for some two hundred posts, I’m happy that nintendo won. No one universe should beat the sheer vastness of that empire (Even if it was mostly Metroid that won it)

“Much as I fought for 40K for some two hundred posts, I’m happy that nintendo won. No one universe should beat the sheer vastness of that empire (Even if it was mostly Metroid that won it)”

40K beats Metroid. It was super powered beings from other universes that really did it.

Last page got owned !!!!

I’m glad Nintendo finally got the factpile award it deserved.

Phazon corrupted X in the form of Pokemon and various other powerful beings attacked the mortals of 40K in mass rushes and won battles through sheer numbers. A wish to the omnipotent Triforce made this wide spread and instantanious throughout the Nintedo forces. Then Count Bleck sent the universe of 40K into the void of nothingness and reset the universe with only Nintendo stuffs.

Meanwhile the gods are duking it out, but since the Zelda Goddesses are omnipotent anything they say happens as they wish. Kinda anticlimatic here. The Orks didn’t belive it at first, but that didn’t matter to omnipotent dieties that can do anything.

Sum it up?

Nintendo destroyed WarHammer on the ground because of the X+Pokemon+Phazon combo, while WarHammer dominated space because they generally had superior ships. Most of the arguments basically led up to this conclusion, while many arguments after that involved either side trying to get around the apparent stalemate. Using Dark Samus’ Portals, Nintendo would be able to bypass WarHammer’s apparently superior fleets, and transport near infinite troops and Pokemon onto enemy planets. On the ground, Metroid is not too far behind WarHammer, so an infinite amount of these troops complimentary of X, would eventually overwhelm most defenses. Combine this with near infinite Pokemon, whose attributes could literally be mixed and matched with the X’s abilities, and who can literally bend the laws of physics and the forces of nature to the side of Nintendo, then there was no way for WarHammer many of their engagements on ground. On the otherhand, in space, WarHammer’s fleets would have generally defeated the combined fleets of Metroid, Starfox, and Bowser’s fleet of wooden ships. And the Necrons and instant FTL made victory in space for the Nintendo side all but impossible.

Expanding from this, was the problem of the near infinite Tyranids on the side of WarHammer. One of two options, use the X’s superior reproduction speeds to defeat the trillions of Tyranids in a war of attrition, spanning who knows how long. Or the use Phazon to corrupt every single Tyranid in existence. Every single Tyranid is connected by the Hivemind, and since Phazon has corrupted beings through psychic links before, Phazon should be able to instantly corrupt every single Tyranid in existence. Counter-arguments proposed the Hivemind was too powerful a force for the phazon to corrupt and that it was unlike the psychic links phazon has dealt with in the past.

While phazon was corrupting and enslaving the denizens of WarHammer, WarHammers warp was corrupting the bodies and souls of many of Nintendo’s creatures. Warp vs Phazon was a very big part of the overall debate and pretty much ended in a stalemate. While the Nintendo side not only claimed that the warp would not be able to corrupt those already corrupted Phazon, they claimed that Phazon would be able to corrupt daemons and those already driven insane by the Warp’s presence. The WarHammer claimed pretty much the opposite, arguing that the Warp was much more powerful than Phazon and that Phazon was a disease and fell under the jurisdiction of Nurgle or Tzeentch, the chaos Gods of Disease and Change respectively.

Which brings us to the God debate. The WarHammer side were quick to underestimate the Gods of Nintendo, but were wrong in doing so. While Metroid could arguably hold their own against WarHammer for awhile, they would literally get steamrolled if it were not for the support given to them by the Gods of Pokemon and the Gods of Zelda. While the Gods of Pokemon were clearly Universal level beings with said capability for destruction, the Gods of Zelda were soon relegated to planetary level because of the world the Zelda series took place in. Giygas, a god from motherbound who is the embodiment of all evil thoughts and emotions and who only increases in power he comes into contact with such, basically picked up some of the slack from Arceus and the Dragon Trio until the No-Limits fallacy was called out on him and he was forgotten. The God battle raged on for awhile, partly due to the obscurity of the power of WarHammer’s Gods, but it ended with the Zelda Gods, when a source promoted them to the status of Omnipotents with Omnipresence. Gork and Mork, Ork Gods who basically controlled outcome based on whether they believed something or not, were big problems until the whole “Omnipotent thing”.

In the mortal plane, Nintendo’s ingenious use of special characters such as Bowser ( who survived an entire universe collapsing on him and being thrown into a star ) and Dark Samus ( who survived an entire dimension collapsing on her ) made vicotory quite likely. And most of Nintendo’s arguments thusfar were all there to merely slow WarHammer, so that they could destroy and recreate the Universe using Bowser’s Galaxy Reactor or the Paper Mario’s Chaos Hearts. Counter WarHammer arguments proposed that daemons could corrupt the Chaos Heart users, but were shot down as there were three Chaos Heart users and one of them were already corrupted etc. ( forgot what the others could do, sorry ). The use of the Orks made things difficult for awhile, until their God was defeated in the God battle. Nintendo’s coutner arguments suggested that Peach has similar abilities.

^ This basically, until Nintendo was allowed Esclusive Game Titles, allowing them way more universes than they had previously. What with the TTGL games and others not even touched upon and the fact that both sides were already basically stalemated ( Some WarHammer supporters were still speculative on the Zelda God’s Omnipotency and with Gork and Mork making thigns even more confusing ), Nintendo pretty much took the lead by this time.

@EnigmaJ
yeah that pretty mutch sums that up
awesomely done so in my humble opinion

“Giygas, a god from motherbound who is the embodiment of all evil thoughts and emotions and who only increases in power he comes into contact with such, basically picked up some of the slack from Arceus and the Dragon Trio until the No-Limits fallacy was called out on him and he was forgotten.”

I brought up Giygas myself can someone explain why it didnt work? I’ve been here a good portion of the time, this probably hapened when I wasnt here, really, can someone explain why Giygas couldnt control the CG?

sooooo, everybody in Warhammer 40k is evil?

The main problem with Giygas is that his is power is used entirely in effecting mortals. As he was placed into the God battle of this match, his control over evil is severely limited, as mortals most often have the choice to be evil, whereas gods are evil because its their ‘job’ so to speak.

Had he been in the mortal battle, his control over evil and his destructive, cause-the-apocalypse-to-happen powers would have been far more devastating, but then again, so would those of any of the gods from either side.

“The main problem with Giygas is that his is power is used entirely in effecting mortals. As he was placed into the God battle of this match, his control over evil is severely limited, as mortals most often have the choice to be evil, whereas gods are evil because its their ‘job’ so to speak. ”

But Giygas controls humans by manipulating their dark emotions, the Chaos Gods, born of emotion, should be the same. And its not like Giygas NEEDS you to actualy be an evil bastard, innanimate objects and animals have been added to his evil minions, the CG should be similar.

“Giygas controls humans by manipulating their dark emotions, the Chaos Gods, born of emotion, should be the same.”

Possibly, but I’d be inclined to suggest that the Chaos Gods are more than powerful enough to resist the powers of Giygas. What with them being massively powerful entities that would have got yet another huge boost in power due to the hundreds of universes that suddenly appeared (the nintendoverse)

These aren’t pokemon, or even legendaries, these are other-dimensional super-evils bent on turning every reality into their playground. Spawned from emotion or not (and given the discrepancies it could be argued not, more that they harness emotion instead of were born from it), they are far beyond the powers of any other.

That said, Nintendo still wipes the floor with the rest of the universe.

Hopefully people will stop crying about 40k being overpowered now

*lol, didn’t WH 40k lose agents some anime thing too?*

there are plenty of anime’s who can beat 40K but i don’t remember any match involving whole 40k U against some anime?that or im getting old.

your right!

http://www.factpile.com/xenosaga-vs-warhammer-40k.htm

“@TheSorrow, SiggyMansz, and Syncourt”

Thanks, Thought I was being too vague there for a moment…

“The Idea of Giygas is that he IS evil, not the concept of evil, or that he is an evil person. ANYTHING that is labled as evil is just a tiny peice of Giygas’ power, Giygas is the formless manifestation of evil in the physical realm.

Same as the Lake Trio of Pokemon: Uxie, Azelf, and Mesprit. They literally embody what they represent, and the fact that Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina are mostly, if not fully, abstract beings goes to suggest that the Lake Trio are as well. Technically, all the knowledge in the WarHammer Universe would be a apart of Uxie and therefore subject to his control, but I dropped the argument awhile back because of the lack of feats.

Same thing probably applies to Giygas. As far as I know, we don’t know how effective Giygas would be at a galaxy-wide scale.

What exactly did Giygas threaten in the games? The Earth?

“The whole Universe. Buzz Buzz tells you that in the future, Giygas destroyed the entire universe.”

=O. Impressive. Then never mind everything I said previously…

So there’s yet another Nintendo God with Universal-level feats.

“Hopefully people will stop crying about 40k being overpowered now”

Overpowered? There are plenty of fictions that squash it in the dirt.

“Still doesn’t stop them from crying OP every time Wh40k is mentioned….. must be jealous.”

Jealous that 40K is OP, or jealous that it’s far more gritty and awesome than their favorite fictional universe.

Or NIntendo has omnipotent gods on their side. Instead of saying people are fail for reaching a conclusion you dont agree with how about you provide some arguments against the conslussion?

*wow nintendo beats warhammer 40k? you people fail so hard.*

nice argument failtard.why don’t you try to actully debate against nintendo’s factpile award instead of being the typical 40k fanboi who gets even more angry then loosing halo fanboys.

lets make a deal.if you can bring something up in this topic which both sides forgot to discuss and it can change the FP award to 40K i will kiss your ass for all eternity.

Hey did miis count in the debate?

I think they factored in MIis too lol

but Kharn slaughtered all of them and some Imperial Guardsmen had to help him over the carcasses.

“Sorry if all ups are on then nintendo wins hands down… mario has starpower which means he can calmly walk into enemies and they fall off the screen…

(Didn’t read back to see if this was addressed.. being that there are 2000+ posts)

Samus/starfox in unison would wipe out plenty of enemies, Link’s beam swords would kill off so many enemies as well…

Not to mention the fact of the sheer numbers of even the more memorable franchises (Metroid, mario, zelda, starfox, pokemon, Donkey Kong, Kirby) being that they almost all have kingdoms, their leaders all have formidable power as well
”
/facepalm/
It would have been more reasonable to read at least the last few pages or even one of the summarys rather that blurting out some crazy facts. There are many key factors that you missed out. Go read post 16 and 18.

“1 universe that could go against all the universes in an entire game system and actually come close to winning”

marvel?

“Don’t mope you should be rubbing it in nintendo’s face it took literally every single 2000+ games they had to stop us just barely. BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD… oh yea he’s dead.”

It only takes Earthbound, a single Nintendo Universe to kill 40k.

Can someone please answer this question for me. For whatever reason nintendo kept trying to make it out as if Giygas had control over chaos because it was supposedly evil. The reality is that every 40k race veiws themselves as the good guys.

orks: we just have this uncontrollable urge to fight everything. The other factions are evil because they don’t wan’t to fight for the hell of it. They have to do it for their god or somthing

necrons: were not evil. We’re just the living dead being forced by our bastards err masters to shoot random living things because they aren’t dead. Everyone else is evil because they won’t stay the fuck still!

chaos: we aren’t evil. We just feed of souls and emotions. You slaughter cows, chikens, and pigs because your hungry. We slaughter humans, eldar, and tau when we’re hungry, but because your race is on the menu were all of the sudden we’re the evil ones? It’s the natural order. We don’t label you evil for eating meat do we?

Not because of the evil thing, but because he can destroy the universe. The evil thing is just a bonus.

What is the budget and head count of the office of accountability?

also it is hard to pit something like “omgz this god thing can crush everything and end the universe as we know it” against something that at least has some tinge of mortality to it so these fights with (see above set of quotes) things it just becomes a fanboy posting fest

“Two camels in a tiny car”
fuck you =3

How the hell do I register for this site

Nintendo is a legend always and forever. It alone single handedly revived gaming in the world.Nintendo is deserving of the FP award in the fullest.

Fuck Yeah, Nintendo revolutionized the gaming industry its a juggernaught with a lot more history and characters than warhammer course its gonna win

@Soldier’s Shadows
No,Nitendo has gods who can destroyer them all quite easly.
And I’m 40k fan.

i disagree siggy

i know what you meant siggy

You forgot Nintendo has a ancient and mysterious force that few fictional characters even know about.
They, with the stroke of a writing utensel, can erase even the gods of zelda with their supposed “omnipotence” from existence.
The few characters who do know about these beings have only done so by bypassing a mystical “fourth wall”.
Truly, no fictional universe can stand to the awesome power of a writer.

this doe’s not make any sence if this includs all nintendo games than you would have to includ warhammer 40k sqaud command for the nintendo DS. So doe’s this mean warhammer 40k has to fght its self? im confused

What the hell is this goddamn crap I never got cookies and milk!!!!!!!! SCREW YOU GUYS IM GOIN HOME