I can’t believe neither of these characters have appeared on the site before. While both possess the tenacity required of their positions, I think for most of us there is only one winner.
Can Vercetti possibly match Montana’s intensity?
Who do you think would win?
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March 30, 2010
#1
I’d actually give it to Vercetti.
He went through a lot of similar stuff rising up in 1980s Miami/Vice City’s drug trade, became a top dog and what not.
Vercetti never gets taken out though, and like he says “I’m a convicted psychotic killer and drug dealer!”
So on those grounds of taking everyone out on his way to the top and not getting put down, I’ll say Tommy V. could pull a win out.
However.. I will agree Pacino had greater intensity and what not compared to Ray Liotta’s voice acting lol.
March 30, 2010
#2
Plus, vercetti did have a more impressive arsenal or guns and that every useful body armour
Sure, its not on his head. Does Montana seem like the type to calmly aim for a headshot?
March 30, 2010
#3
Right, also I know Montana was a soldier and all that.
But technically, as Vercetti you’re able to get in firefights with entire military companies lol, so that seems like it puts it further in his court.
But that aside, he’s still a certified survivor unlike Tony.
Vercetti for FP award.
March 30, 2010
#4
That depends,what do they each have?
March 30, 2010
#5
I am shocked that this debate has never come up until now.
*Pulls out folding chair and sits down*
Proceed.
March 30, 2010
#6
Both of the characters were drug addicts nonetheless…
March 30, 2010
#7
Of the two only one survived their betrayal
March 30, 2010
#8
To be fair, Montana DID take a lot of bullets at his last stand, he was still standing and still had enough strength to continue roaring insanely at his assassins.
Hell, it took a shotgun blast to the spine to bring him down…
Not to say he wouldn’t win, can anyone give us an idea of how much Vercetti can survive?
Oh, and: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOYW00u0E5E
March 30, 2010
#9
“say hello to my little friend”
’nuff said
March 30, 2010
#10
If we’re comparing weapons, then anything Tony has would most definitely be ‘little’ compared to the things Tommy has access to.
March 30, 2010
#11
No, no, no… Your Doing it wrong:
Its: “SAY HELLO! TO MY LEETLE FREIND!”
You have to add large ham to it, see? http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LargeHam
March 30, 2010
#12
Oh, and on the topic of scarface?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/30/little-kids-perform-scarf_n_518411.html
March 30, 2010
#13
“You have to add large ham to it, see? *deleted*”
NOOO! YOU CANNOT LINK TO THAT SITE! We will be stuck for da- Ooh look a cool article. *is gone for hours*
March 30, 2010
#14
Yeah…(tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife)
Its all a good part of the descent into madness … random trivia!
March 30, 2010
#15
I always intend to spend only a few minutes on that site…then a hour later I find I have 5 tabs open.
March 30, 2010
#16
“Both of the characters were drug addicts nonetheless…”
I actually don’t recall Tommy ever touching any drugs at all.
March 30, 2010
#17
In any case, I’m giving this to Tommy, Montana may have epic rage, but Tommy’s a walking arsenal.
March 30, 2010
#18
Alright it seems to me like we’re putting game mechanics and plot mechanics beyond common sense. Yes Tony Montana did die in his last stand but since the man is heavily coked out at all times it took multiple rounds and a blast from a shotgun to the spine to finally drop him(and according to the game he lived).
Anyway since both these men are human it all depends on who shoots first and what weapons they are armed with. Based on background i’d go with Montana. He’s actually a trained killer unlike Vercetti is even though he’s kind of old now.
March 30, 2010
#19
I second Vercetti for FP award
March 30, 2010
#20
“Both of the characters were drug addicts nonetheless…”
Tommy wasn’t but i’m pretty sure his lawyer was
March 31, 2010
#21
just watched scarface for the first time, unfortunately i didnt see the appeal it was an ok movie but tony is just a prick that got what was coming to him, mayb im biased though i never liked him the whole movie
March 31, 2010
#22
vercetti for the win
March 31, 2010
#23
“Tommy wasn’t but i’m pretty sure his lawyer was”
Actually, in SA I think Ken mentioned something about Tommy being in rehab to CJ.
March 31, 2010
#24
“I actually don’t recall Tommy ever touching any drugs at all.”
He was already in drug business even at the start of the game.
Tommy Vercetti can carry a minigun while Tony Montana can only carry a M-16.
March 31, 2010
#25
@Marauder
Tommy is a pretty handy assassin, he was in prison at the start of Vice city for icing people for the mafia.
Ontop of this, all the of the story-cannon missions of dealing with high explosives, and more killings, etc. just adds to it.
He takes over a drug lord’s estate, by force then defends it multiple times, by force lol.
So aside from simply just ‘succeeding where Montana has failed” he’s also flexed nuts in more instances, and technically killed a lot more people.
March 31, 2010
#26
“Tommy Vercetti can carry a minigun while Tony Montana can only carry a M-16.”
No-one else?
Fine
Tony Montana “Say hell to my Little frien’”
Tommy Vercetti *Disinterested* “Say hello to my much bigger friend”
Anyway, Since we’re using the videogame version of Tommy, shall we use the VIdeo game version of Tony Montana too? if only because I do believe he’s at least still alive
March 31, 2010
#27
@Sparks-Really doesn’t matter. They are both humans. Not super soldiers. You guys must get rid of game mechanics and look at this via unbiased eyes. For example some one here said that Vercetti who is around the same age as Montana(both are in there 40s and nearing their 50s) can use a minigun. Even if that is so since game mechanics allow it doesn’t a minigun have to take a second to spin its barrels before it starts firing. In that time Montana would rip Vercetti’s vest off via grenade launcher.
This is foolishness. The match is determined by what they are armed with and who sees who first. Unless one of you can prove that Vercetti is in fact better trained then Monatana via some service record or training in game I’m leaning towards Montana.
March 31, 2010
#28
@Marauder
Record of service doesn’t necessarily constitute a win. Like you said both are humans and -NOT- supersoldiers, however both have gone on pretty unreal killing sprees and shootouts.
The end of scarface, the guy with the sunglasses mercs Montana from behind during the fight. We know it’s not impossible for Tony to be tricked or taken by surprise. Add to that he’s an addict (which Tommy is never specified as) & extreme hot head, why wouldn’t Vercetti, also an experienced shooter and fighter not be able to give Tony the runaround?
No one is looking at this from game mechanics. I made the offhand reference of fighting the army, but if you go by story canon Vercetti still pulls the same killer-shooting frenzy that Montana is known for and then some.
So, Tony was a soldier and killer for Cuba, sure. Vercetti was a top-level assassin for the mafia. Both are pretty calculating individuals to some degree, and there’s already proof Montana can be snuck up on. (In line with what Jwlynas said, even if he’s alive, he still got merced)
While I won’t say Montana winning isn’t impossible, I think an experienced contract killer that’s been in more giant shootouts than Tony could certainly be the one to redo what happened at the end of the Scarface Movie.
We know Tommy has made significant use of explosives in his criminal career, has been handed a sniper rifle to cover people amongst other things.
Neither guy is just some fodder enemy or henchmen type. Both have been the last man standing in big shootouts. Tommy has done more of them, and (even by mission/canon scenes) has been in more firefights. Not really much of a stretch for him to pull a win out.
Like Clint Eastwood in Leone’s triliogy. Just a gun for hire, yet he had a faster draw than anyone around, even former Colonel’s. That’s what I’d liken Vercetti to in this instance, sometimes you just got a knack. And Vercetti on several occassions shows off that knack.
April 1, 2010
#29
“He was already in drug business even at the start of the game.
Tommy Vercetti can carry a minigun while Tony Montana can only carry a M-16.”
I meant touching as in using.