“shields”

Liar. It takes several salvos to drop Covenant ship shields, which are about on par with Terran energy shielding if I remember correctly.

“armour”

What a fucking moronic statement. You should be sterilized for your stupidity.

“unavoidable”

That’s funny, because Covenant vessels are seen to dodge them quite easily with the liberal usage of thrusters in most engagements. Try harder.

“instantaneous-hitting”

Not even LIGHT travels instantaneously, you dipshit. Are you trying to tell us now that MAC rounds travel faster than light itself?

Just remember, no object with mass can reach speeds of 300,000km/s; and nothing can exceed this unless through the use of an inertialess drive system.

Hey L-W regrading post 41.

Is the MAC gun firing in spece where there is no friction at all? Why would it break up?

1) “Is the MAC gun firing in spece where there is no friction at all? Why would it break up?”

Friction isn’t what causes the MAC round to break up, it’s the internal stresses imposed upon the object.

Acceleration always matters in constructing a vehicle. If you’re building an immobile space station in a zero-gravity environment (such as Mir), acceleration doesn’t matter. But if you have an object intended to accelerate, then things become a whole lot more complicated. When that object accelerates, the resulting forces will be proportional to its mass. Its mass, in turn, is proportional to its volume. When you scale something up, the mass increases faster than the area. Mass will define load, and area will define load-bearing ability. If load increases faster than load-bearing ability, then we have a problem. For example, if you scale up a building by a factor of 10, it will get 1000 times heavier but it will only get 100 times stronger.

Whilst a MAC round is a solid 600 ton cylinder of tungsten, the acceleration imposed upon the object will fracture the internal structure of the shell and cause it to collapse under its own weight. Now at 18km/s, 30km/s and even 11,000km/s (previously stated canon speeds) this is not a critical failure in the shell, but at 110,000km/s you would need a material at least 1000 times stronger than tungsten, otherwise the round would vaporize the moment it leaves the barrel.

Now imagine what happens to a fighter pilot when performing 17G (g-force) manoeuvres, the organs are pulverized, blood vessels are punctured, bones are compacted and the pilot passes out due to the brain being compressed against the skull; but it isn’t the friction that kills him, it’s his body reaching the threshold acceleration for a human being. In other words, humans aren’t built from the toughest of materials. Now imagine what would happen to other materials when exposed to such high accelerations. Comparatively, even tiny handgun rounds only experience 30,000Gs on average and still experience deformation, whereas a MAC round would have to endure nearly 600,000Gs, travel at high velocities for 100,000,000 times further whilst weighing nearly 600,000,000 times as much as a 9mm round; neither tungsten or depleted uranium can support those kind of accelerations without breaking apart.

2) “Oh and what about a tackyon?”

Normally, baryonic matter obeys physical principles of relativity: they increase exponentially in mass as they approach the speed of light, requiring more and more energy and mass to approach it, and thus always remain below the speed of light. Tachyonic matter, on the other hand, is a collection of exotic particles that exist solely above the speed of light, and cannot travel at sublight speeds; therefore it cannot exist in our universe without some spectacular results.

This is what I’ve explained in many other debates before, and what some simply refuse to understand. In Star Wars, hypermatter is a tachyonic form of fuel that not only allows them to initiate their hyperdrives and travel at several million times the speed of light, but when constrained by realspace hypermatter chambers, charged tachyons are annihilated as they accelerate to infinite speed within a reactor. This in turn generates energy at more than 100% baryonic efficiency (anti-matter annihilates at only 99% efficiency at peak), allowing them to build planet destroying lasers that can vaporize Earth sized worlds in less than a second of use.

Well i think in all favor it would be the autom since not only douse it have a 3 round burst Mac Cannon, its Honey comb armour would be able to with stand most of the fight, also it has the ability to fire hundreds of Archer missles at once, this would soon become a Range Battle, your also not counting the fact that the autom has a comliment of fighters and Pelicans that can be armed with Missles so in all essance it would be at the Least A fair fight

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Whilst accurate gauges on sublight acceleration so far remains a mystery for either party, we know that Terran FTL is superior to UNSC slipspace travel; based on the fact that a Terran armada required six months to cross a space of 60,000 light years, which would consume a period of eighty years for the UNSC.

We also know that the Terran Battlecruiser not only packs energy shielding and force fields but multiple ten meter thick layers of neosteel armour plating across the hull, complemented by a mile of sturdy structural bracing that allows a Battlecruiser to keep fighting even when cut in half (according to I, Mengsk) by laser cannons. In one scene during the novel, a Terran Cruiser is bisected along the center, yet retained the internal stability to keep firing back as it fell through the atmosphere of a planet at terminal velocity (these are tough ships).

In terms of arms, the Cruiser is supported by hundreds of individual assault cannons, point defence lasers, burst laser cannons, salvos of nuclear missiles each measured in the hundred of teratons (although they tend to be easily shot down) and a particle accelerator know as a Yamato cannon, which releases nuclear level energies in the gigaton range on contact.

The Cruiser has the weapons and shielding to take on the likes of the Pillar of Autumn, easily.”

Actually, though fan calculations put the Battlecruiser at around a mile in length, there is a quote in Uprising that puts their length up to 12 kilometers.