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Sub-Zero Vs Scorpion
Sub-Zero Vs Scorpion

It’s the age old classic fight from Mortal Kombat. While I was god enough to know a few finishing moves with Sub-Zero, I was always better as Scorpion – and that’s who I’m taking for this fight.

Who will win?

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  • Sapper007
    October 26, 2009
    #1

    Sub zero has established that he can freeze opponents and upper cut them into shards… even though that would be considered a fatality… whats stopping him from doing it all the time?

    while scorpion has his spear and flame… its all easily stopped by sub zero… and while both can teleport and attack from a distance, I think scorpion would eventually hit the an ice clone and be frozen, which will follow shortly by a deep freeze uppercut….

    Sub-zero FTW…

  • ss
    October 26, 2009
    #2

    agreed, sub zero will win

  • Megaraptor18
    October 26, 2009
    #3

    In Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-Zero (Which is a prequel to the first I think) it shows that Sub-Zero killed Scorpion and made Scorpion on what he is today.

  • itisburgers
    October 26, 2009
    #4

    well if sub-zero gets deepfreeze uppercut then scorpion gets his fire breathing

    *TOASTY* ftw

  • Sapper007
    October 26, 2009
    #5

    “well if sub-zero gets deepfreeze uppercut then scorpion gets his fire breathing”

    I dont think his 4 feet range on fire breathing will help him, when he is frozen from across the arena…

  • lj
    October 26, 2009
    #6

    scorpion would just pull him over to where he is and kill him instantly!!!!!!!

  • midnite marauder
    October 26, 2009
    #7

    Well since scorpion is a spectre and is already dead sub-zero can’t kill him. Couple that with his munipulation of hell-fire and his ability to teleport and sub-zero just might lose here.

  • Kenny C.
    October 26, 2009
    #8

    And Scopion can just set you on fire from various moves…so I can’t really pick a winner here. But, since Srcorpoin is actually a spectre and can never be destoryed fully… I’m going with him.

  • ss
    October 26, 2009
    #9

    really? the what johny cage do to him? because he sure looked dead to me

  • Megaraptor18
    October 26, 2009
    #10

    Don’t forget Sub-Zero is Lin Kuei and a Cryomancer

    http://mortalkombat.wikia.com/wiki/Lin_Kuei

    Oh quick question which Sub Zero are we talking about Sub-Zero the Elder or Sub-Zero the Younger

  • Space marine
    October 26, 2009
    #11

    Scorpion melts Sub-Zero’s arms off from across the arena too.

  • ss
    October 26, 2009
    #12

    this is quite a stalemate

  • Kenny C.
    October 26, 2009
    #13

    @ Mega

    When not specified, its always the current edition.

    @ SS

    Not to sound like a prick, but to only use a movie as canon is kinda stupid.

  • Megaraptor18
    October 26, 2009
    #14

    Then it is Sub-Zero the Younger it is then and is the one who is the Grand Master of the Lin Kuei.

    Here is his Wiki
    http://mortalkombat.wikia.com/wiki/Sub-Zero

    Scorpion’s Wiki
    http://mortalkombat.wikia.com/wiki/Scorpion

    By looking at both wikis both fighters have a 50-50% chance of victory.

    Oh remember there is one thing about Mortal Kombat some of you are forgeting and that is that no one has never truly died.

  • ss
    October 26, 2009
    #15

    well the movie is all i really know about sorry

  • Battra Boy
    October 26, 2009
    #16

    ^^ Johnny Cage?

  • midnite marauder
    October 26, 2009
    #17

    @ss-Are you serious? That was the movie. In actual canon Scorpion would have evicerated Johny and dragged his soul to hell. Any way I’d give this to Scorpion. Being able to terrorize and strike fear into the heart of an opponent as powerful as Quan Chi says something about a person’s power and like I said Scorpion can’t be killed since he’s already dead. That and being able to teleport and control the fires of hell gives you one tough cookie to crack.

  • Megaraptor18
    October 26, 2009
    #18

    @ MM

    “like I said Scorpion can’t be killed since he’s already dead.”

    Like I also said before in the MK Universe death is meanless. Example Liu Kang he was killed in Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance and yet he returned in Mortal Kombat: Deception granted he was a zombie. Mileena was also killed and bought back from the dead. In a Universe that has muiltple realms and has it’s own Hell known as the Netherealm where souls such as Sub-Zero and Scorpion’s will remain. In fact Scorpion’s soul was in the Netherealm and while he was in the Netherealm he fought Sub-Zero the Elder (Now known as Noob Saibot) and the Elder was able to defeat Scorpion and Quan Chi in Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-Zero.

    Also what we have seen that Sub-Zero the Younger has become more powerful than his older brother and since he has the Dragon Medallion which is a powerful artifact that resembles a dragon biting its tail. This artifact came into Sub Zero’s possesion shortly after his victory over Sektor and his return to the Lin Kuei. This medallion enhanced Sub Zero’s freezing powers to levels he had never thought possible.

    However we cannot ignore how powerful Scorpion has become as well. This is a perfect 50-50 match. But I must give the edge to Sub-Zero.

  • midnite marauder
    October 26, 2009
    #19

    Mega I didn’t mean that he can simply be brought back. He’s a specter ie he’s already dead meaning not breathing and can’t be rekilled since he’s already dead. And being a specter or an escaped soul of hell he has access to strength, durability, and abilities that sub-zero can’t counter. For example the ability to teleport alone gives Scorpion the win. That and his ability to drag people to hell as well as control the fires of hell and not die period also gives scorpion the win.

  • Megaraptor18
    October 27, 2009
    #20

    @ MM

    I think your overestimating Scorpion’s abilties do to the fact he is undead. In the MK Universe that means nothing in the MK universe Because he is undead does not mean he can’t be killed again (and yes he can be killed again due to the fact he is outside of the Netherealm.) and his soul sent back to the Netherealm again and given that he now knows that it was Quan Chi and has been hunting Quan Chi to avenge his family’s death at the hands of Quan Chi. Also without Quan Chi or Shinnok or Raiden or any other Elder God he can’t leave the Netherealm.

    Sub-Zero having descended from a race of Outworld inhabitants known as Cryomancers, Sub-Zero has innate ability to control ice in many forms. Throughout the span of the series, Sub-Zero’s powers have continued to evolve. Aside from flash-freezing opponents, Sub-Zero also has the ability to instantly conjure up an ice statue of himself to act as both a scapegoat and a ‘landmine’ of sorts as any who touch it instantly flash freeze. Due to the Dragon Medallion’s addition to his arsenal, Sub-Zero’s powers have increased significantly, now able to form weapons out of ice. Exactly how powerful he is storyline-wise unknown.

    the ability to instantly conjure up an ice statue of himself to act as both a scapegoat. So when Scorpion does one of these teleport attacks and touches the Ice Clone Scorpion will instantly flash freeze him and will turn into a block of Ice.

    This is not going to be easy for Scorpion. In fact this is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object. They clash against each other and have a way to counter the other’s attack.

  • DivineChaos88
    October 27, 2009
    #21

    I personally say Scorpion. He has always been my fav. His yeleport punch is just that useful. Sub-Zero can never hit him when he uses it.

  • Sapper007
    October 27, 2009
    #22

    @Midnite,
    Subzero also has the ability to teleport… and yes I agree with your cant die theory, since he’s dead…. but that still doesnt stop him from being shattered into a million undead pieces. which is quite a hinderance in a fight.

    and yes he will be brought back… but not with out outside help

    Sub-Zero FTW

  • Megaraptor18
    October 27, 2009
    #23

    “I personally say Scorpion. He has always been my fav. His yeleport punch is just that useful. Sub-Zero can never hit him when he uses it.”

    But with Sub-Zero’s Ice Clone ability every time Scorpion hits the clone thinking it’s Sub-Zero he will be turned into Ice.

  • Cpt Olimar
    October 27, 2009
    #24

    Isn’t this really going to come down to the skill of the player? I mean, both seem to be about as equally capable of taking the other down (in Scorpion’s case a long-term KO would count as a victory) it more matters on who is more skilled, is there any canon to suggest this?

  • Megaraptor18
    October 27, 2009
    #25

    @ Olimar

    What I have seen in the Cannon they are of equal skill and ability. Orginally the two characters were created to counter each other

  • midnite marauder
    October 28, 2009
    #26

    @Sapper-You can’t really freeze fire especially the kind of the hell variety. Also being made of flesh, bone, and hell fire also has its advantages since I doubt sub-zero can freeze the fires of hell and since Scorpion is formed of hell-fire it renders him un-freezable. Sub-Zero however can be effected by hell-fire which not only burns the flesh but also the soul.

    @Mega-Your right I am under-estimating Sub-Zero a little but keep in mind that Scorpion and Sub-Zero is more or less equal BUT Scorpion has a burning hatred for Subs which would make him way more ruthless and give him that extra boost in strength he needs to finish Subs. That being said I doubt either could kill the other since they balance each other too much.

  • Megaraptor18
    October 28, 2009
    #27

    “BUT Scorpion has a burning hatred for Subs”

    Correction he used to hate Sub-Zero that was before he learned that it was Quan Chi who murdered his family and clan. Also since he killed his murderer Sub Zero the Elder (Now known as Noob Saibot.) If you look at the cannon he has little to no beef with Sub-Zero the Younger and on the MK Wiki Sub-Zero is listed as an ally to Scorpion. That burning hatred for Subs no longer exist.

    But yea this is a fight between two powerful Elements. Extreme Heat vs Extreme Cold. Both are unable to defeat the other.

    Oh on a side note I think I find out what’s Scorpion’s real name is Hanzo Hasashi (I think not sure here is the link to it.)

    http://mortalkombat.wikia.com/wiki/Noob_Saibot
    Check under Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-Zero in the first paragraph

  • midnite marauder
    October 28, 2009
    #28

    Oh yeah Mega your correct in that one. Its been a while since i played mortal kombat because the series seems to becoming more and more stupid with each itteration. Last one I played was deception and I refused to buy that abomination MK vs DC. Some say it was good but at the time it was 65 bucks and thats not something you shell out lightly these days. Have you played it?

  • Megaraptor18
    October 28, 2009
    #29

    Yea I played the new ones in fact I own Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-Zero and Mortal Combat Trilogy for the N64 and find those games pretty good but the Sub-Zero game is hard and you needed cheat codes to see the end of the game.

    Then Deadly Alliance came out and I enjoyed that game as well in fact Cyrax was my favorite in that game. Deception had a good Konquest mode and a great intro but fell through some of the other modes. Armageddon was in fact a dream game for MK fans it had all of the characters in this game problem was it was poorly executed but the Kreate a Fighter mode was cool and wisi that they will being it back in Mortal Kombat 9 (Yes they are talking about making another game.) MK vs DC I liked the story mode and how they got both MK and DC characters in the same place was pretty good and playing as the Joker is the highlight of the game. But they tuned down the blood and gore well because of DC so I don’t call it a true MK game just another crossover that was ok.

  • Jwlynas
    October 28, 2009
    #30

    Isn’t it canon that Sub Zero wins this, it was him who sent Scorpion to hell in the first place after all. Since then they’ve fought three times that i know of (once in the animated cartoon of all things) and Sub Zero wins each time. he’s more powerful with his ice than Scorpion is with his fire…

  • Jwlynas
    October 28, 2009
    #31

    Sorry, got it confused. its the complete other way round. Sub Zero loses to scorpion almost every time they face off.

  • Megaraptor18
    October 28, 2009
    #32

    @ Jwlynas

    It was Sub-Zero the Elder (Who is now known as Noob Saibot) who killed Scorpion not the Sub-Zero the Younger (The Current Sub-Zero) and also Scorpion killed Sub-Zero the Elder whiched turned him into Noob Saibot. Also Sub-Zero the Younger has became more powerful than he was in MK 4 ever sinces he defeated Sektor and become Grandmaster of the Lin Kuei and the fact he has the Dragon Medallion has increased his powers greatly and will be hard for Scorpion to beat.

    Not saying it’s impossbile but it will be hard. Also the two are equally strong and mastered the Elements they use. If this battle was fought a 100 times each would win 50 given their current state.

  • Sapper007
    October 28, 2009
    #33

    is there such thing as A FP Tie award?

    No Ties allowed. Ever. Admin

  • Sapper007
    October 28, 2009
    #34

    damn… that would be kind of cool to have… oh well

    Sub Zilch for the big Dub…

  • Kenny C.
    October 28, 2009
    #35

    YA for perfectly balanced characters!!!!

  • midnite marauder
    October 28, 2009
    #36

    @Megaraptor-yeah the tuned down blood really killed it for me. I know most DC heroes don’t kill but it would have been fucking wicked to pull someone’s spine out with Batman or beat someone to death with their own arms with Super Man. Well I can dream.

  • Megaraptor18
    October 28, 2009
    #37

    While these are the best Fatalities in the whole game for some reason some wimpy soul censored the head shots in the US Version so I understand why MK fans hate it.

    Mortal Kombat VS DC Universe Joker’s Fatality 1 US Version
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW-eXtt6X_o

    Mortal Kombat VS DC Universe: Deathstroke Fatality 1 US Version
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxP6p722U3k

    But I would like to see a MK vs Marvel though. I think Marvel might have the balls to ask for a M rated game but I could be wrong. Thing about it Hulk vs Shao Khan or Wolverine vs Scorpion or Jax vs Ironman, or Liu Kang vs Spiderman. Granted if it is a T rated game it would suffer like MK vs DC.

    (Wait a second I just thought up some battles for Factpile.)

  • scorpzero
    June 26, 2010
    #38

    Come on people do we really have 2 debate about this scorpion and subzero would eraticate ryu and ken. capcom and midway (warner bros.) really need 2 come out with a game about this kuz this is the most questioned subject i ever heard. ima fan of sf and mk but i been n luv since it first came out and im only 13. subzero is a GRANDMASTER of ice and scorpion is SPECTRE from hell think logically here people plus they have anamalities which means they can turn into an animal as seen in mk3

  • Real
    June 28, 2010
    #39

    I think we are forgetting the fact here that scorpion uses fire sometimes and melt that clone the two are evenly matched until the creatoer says otherwise until then you can say who you think will win but its only a thought inspired by your own opinion

  • Alfredo
    July 22, 2010
    #40

    Sub-Zero kick ass Scorpion!

  • unsc freak
    July 28, 2010
    #41

    scorpion killed onaga, BY HIMSELF. that really speaks for itself

    @scorpzero, those anamalities are retarded, scorpion turns into a fucking penguin and lays an egg that blows up like a nuke, honostly i don’t get it, you got this big tough guy turning into a penguin, come to think of it thats kind of funny

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