Stallone & Schwarzenegger Vs Statham & Diesel

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October 13th, 2009 at 7:40 am -

Sylvester Stallone & Arnold Schwarzenegger Vs Jason Statham & Vin Diesel

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Legends Vs Rookies. While the “rookies” still have more movies that they’ll be able to make in the future, how do they stack up against the likes of Rambo, Rocky and the Terminator?

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Jwlynas
October 13, 2009
#1

Oh holy hell…

Umm… IS this each actor as a single entity, or all of their roles side by side facing off, because those are two VERY different battles.

if its just the actors, the rookies have this hands down. Schwarzenegger and stallone, while still buff as all hell, are just a wee bit too old to stand up the the new guys, who actually have some knowledge of fighting.

If its all the movie characters put together though, the Legends that are Stallone & Schwarzenegger win this without breaking a sweat.
Captain Epic
October 13, 2009
#2

I say the Ledgends. Just Because it is an allience of gods. But what Jwlynas said is true.
Matapiojo
October 13, 2009
#3

Ah, but shouldn’t we be taking into acount the potential value of the actors?

Stallone is currently squeezing every drop of milk from his two major franchises, while the Governator seems to be out for the count.

The key here is the consideration of their production value. The newcommers are continuously pumping out gems of action godness. Yes, they still have ways to go to earn their stripes as action star royalty like the veteran Action Gods, but they both have some solid franchises at this point.

Statham = The epic Transporter, and Crank.
Diesel = The epic Riddic, and Fast & Furius, and perhaps even xXx.

And those franchises seem to keep growing. Adding to that some single pieces like Death Race, Knockaround Guys, The Bank Job, War, and Babylon A.D.. Not to mention Statham’s upcomming remake of Bronson’s The Mechanic (maybe as it may be completely unrelated), and Diesel’s Wheelman as well as a xXx sequel.

The two will even come full circle with fantasy-esque films once Diesel finishes the announced Hannibal The Conqueror to be paired with Statham’s In the Name of the King. I think the newcommers might get this one.

……but then, we have such epics in the works that considerably blur the lines for this fan’s opinion:
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2568194816/tt1320253
Jwlynas
October 13, 2009
#4

That movie may well end up answering this entire match up, when it undoubtably ends up in a brawl between Stallone and Statham.
Matapiojo
October 13, 2009
#5

“That movie may well end up answering this entire match up”

Agreed. I discovered it after I made the suggestion, and it proved to be a massive monkeywrench into this. My expectations for it are quite high.
kniget
October 13, 2009
#6

Statham, Stalone AND Jet L :O!!!!!!!
can you say greatest action movie of all time? xD lol
Matapiojo
October 13, 2009
#7

“can you say greatest action movie of all time? xD lol”

It’s what I am hoping for, at least.
ss
October 13, 2009
#8

this is quite a match
Megaraptor18
October 13, 2009
#9

I’m going with the Legends on this one. They have better movies under their belt
Jwlynas
October 13, 2009
#10

“Statham, Stalone AND Jet L :O!!!!!!!”

Plus Mickey Rourke, Bruce willis, and Arnie himself
Hitman H94
October 13, 2009
#11

propably legends
Kenny C.
October 13, 2009
#12

The Legends have this. They have waded through fictional pools of their own blood and created the action movie genre as it is today.

They were the ones who invades Vietnam alone to rescue hostages, they are the ones that went back in time to kill/protect the savior of humanity, they are the ones that went on to pouch out the Russian superman, and they are the ones that made some of the greatest lines every uttered in action film.

While I got respect for Statham and Diesel, they can’t compete with the this amount of brutality and sheer unadulterated violence that comes with age.

Besides what could the rookies have to counter this amount of awesome?

– http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s89JWgOCdA&feature=related

Or this – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUYI24MJWxI&feature=related

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEhllmopdMY&feature=video_response
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RbL4PwTDsQ&feature=related
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkgxLnUFYiU&feature=related

The list goes on forever man.
Drayflare
October 13, 2009
#13

The legends. They are just too high on the epicosity list.
Sam the heretic
October 14, 2009
#14

Stallone still takes steroids…and the governator still works out… their combined weight is still miore than the rookies…this only applies to a street brawl. in terms of movies, the legends have more memorable lines

“i’ll be back”(terminator 2)

“aaaaaaahhhhhhh”(Rocky, Rambo)

“Hasta la vista, baby”(terminator)

my $0.02 is on the legends
kniget
October 14, 2009
#15

i think street brawl the youngsters have it, theyre faster and move maneuverable, the legends are too muscle bound even in their peak to match the martial abilities of statham and diesel
Sapper007
October 14, 2009
#16

The legends… and here is why

IF I have to see crank or transporter on spike one more time… i am going to fall of the deep end and shoot my tv… what terrible terrible films…. Statham can die a horrible agonizing death in the B-Movie world as far as im concerned

GOOD STATHAM MOVIES
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
Snatch
The Transporter (the first one not the series)
The Italian Job
The Bank Job
TERRIBLE STATHAM MOVIES
Turn It Up
Ghosts of Mars
The One
Mean Machine
Thai Boxing: A Fighting Chance (not technically a statham movie… but by the time I saw this movieI hated hearing his voice)
Collateral (I had already began to hate the transporter series… so this got dumped into this secton)
Cellular
Transporter 2 (ruined Frank Martin as a character… he would never hook up with a busted chick like that)
Revolver
London
Chaos
The Pink Panther (sums up what i think of Jason Statham)
Crank
War (what should have and could have been the best action movie ever was instead an epic flop)
In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale (gayer than Sam & Frodo)
Death Race (Could have… wait no the twisted metal franchise sux too)
Transporter 3 (more nasty chicks)
Crank: High Voltage (“Grimey! I need a quick rub against an olde chick to keep me hearts a beatin!” Please….)
PaPPa JUDAS
October 14, 2009
#17

I would say the star of deathrace wins this one (if you know anything this covers both teams)
Jwlynas
October 14, 2009
#18

“Lock, Stock…”, “Snatch” and “The Transporter” make up for everything though. All these guys have their fair share of awful awful movies.
Kenny C.
October 14, 2009
#19

@ PaPPa JUDAS

Any particular reason why?
Jwlynas
October 14, 2009
#20

Both Sylvester Stallone and Jason Statham have starred in “Death race” movies.
Kenny C.
October 14, 2009
#21

Heh… didn’t know that.
Space marine
October 15, 2009
#22

“Statham = The epic Transporter”

HA! That was funny…Transporter sucked really bad monkey butt.
sam the heretic
October 15, 2009
#23

“HA! That was funny…Transporter sucked really bad monkey butt.”

indeed, though the second one did have a bit more “action”.
sam the heretic
October 15, 2009
#24

“The true measure of a man, is in his words.”

Sam the Heretic

this famous line proves that the legends win, purely on their great lines.

i nominate legends for the win
AkumaTh
October 15, 2009
#25

When Making Rocky 6, Stallone took all those punches in the movie for real. Got legitly knocked out a few times too. It goes to show you these sequels to him are more then just a cash in.

So my vote is for the Legends.
Baron Somebody
October 18, 2009
#26

Stallone just looks tired, Arnold looks like a caveman, Staham looks really gross and Vin Diesel looks like a dumbass
cambadillac
October 20, 2009
#27

If this argument is about kill count(which it SHOULD be) then stallone and arnie has it by a landslide.
Matapiojo
October 20, 2009
#28

“If this argument is about kill count(which it SHOULD be) then stallone and arnie has it by a landslide.”

That’s not what action movies are about, tho. If that was the case, Rambo wins over all.

Action films are about excitement. Everyone knows that “Oh, SHIT!” feeling from most of the movies in question here.

If you want a kill count, just go watch a slasher movie. I rather watch shit getting blown up!
sam the heretic
October 23, 2009
#29

“Action films are about excitement. Everyone knows that “Oh, SHIT!” feeling from most of the movies in question here.”

Dude… Rambo 4 wblew my brains out… terminator 3 was DYNAMITE!!!!!!

The opening sequence to terminator 2 was so badass it DEMANDED its own movie(which was also badass)

Legends ftw
Just A Gamer
October 26, 2009
#30

I realize i’m late for the party here but for comment 15.. you are OUT OF YOUR MIND!! **Sorry i rarely use all caps, but that deserved the emphesis** Arnold and Stallone in there prime (Possibly even now) would destroy the Rookies in a straight fist fight.
Cpt Olimar
October 26, 2009
#31

Hey haven’t seen you around JustAGamer…. unless you have been around and I am blind :/

As much as everyone will hate me for saying this, I didn’t mind the pacifier much. For a kids movie at least, really not half bad.

It wouldn’t sway my vote though.
Diana
October 27, 2009
#32

Terminator has a better action than Rambo 2&3 combined, leave Rambo 1 behind, it totally a sick movie.

Statham’s action movie is just full of martial art gimicks, but at least he is a known one for a western

If you want brawling, then just look on Diesel