“Just out of interest, what is the “Triumvate”?”

http://www.factpile.com/the-triumvirate%E2%80%99s-royal-inquisition-introduction

I think it is clear.

I nominate the Space Marine for the Factpile Award.

i think the space marine has many ways of killing boba bellyflop on boba and squish him flat or blow bobas but to orbit with a bolter mayby slap his head and then pull it off… and much much more but the main reason bobas gonna die is because of their initiatives and well… their strength, toughness, WS, BS , and the bolter is better than watever boba can get

I nominate the Space Marine

I don’t know how the two universes match up, but to me Fett in 40k terms would be like an IG Cadian in Power Armor. Which (going by the fluff here) means that if he’s lucky, he can take down a SM. Probably not a Terminator, but this is why I don’t play humans.

hahahahaha!you guys are so funny.basically i’ve seen these fights on some other sites.but everyone of you must always remember,unless someone discovers how to cross dimensions so that we can convince a space marine and Boba fett (or some other character) to engage in pitfight and see who wins.we will never know,since there is one factor that keeps coming into the equation is “reality”.even if everything in the warhammer40k and the star wars universe is locked in your noggin it won’t matter.you’ll just keep blabbering and lashing out at someone who tries to defy you.it just won’t matter.and just in case,my brother used to be a hardcore starwars fan,he even bought a lightsaber.as soon,as i introduced him into the warhammer40k.he forgot everything about starwars.heck,he doesn’t even know who yoda is!and he keeps muttering prayers,proverbs & sayings of a space marine.he once saw me actually losing my belief that space marines would win every battle.he simply said:FAITH IS BETTER WHEN NOT QUESTIONED,YOU ARE QUESTIONING THE ADEPTUS ASTARTES,THAT’S THE SAME AS DISBELIEVING THE EMPEROR AND TURNING TO THE HERETICAL CHAOS.DO YOU WANT TO BE ENGULFED BY THE FLAMES OF THE EMPEROR’S WRATH!!!!!i didn’t answer.

I dont know. If gauss flayers can fudge up a terminator,and bobby has an upgraded gauss flayer type weeaypon…hmmmm,my heretical moonay be on da beeeg fetty cheese

@ admin

How about Spike(cowboy bebop) against someone ey?

Add it to the battle request section, we’ll see what happens – Admin

Since Boba Fett survived that monstet engulfing him on the Star Wars Movies, then goes out & kills the beasts and then some Jedis, then I’m giving it to him because that is just 100% PURIFIED BADASSERY!!!!!!!!!!

“It seems you are very much mistaken. I have been posting on a vs board longer than this site has been in existence (Correct me if I’m wrong, but I get the impression this site was established in 2008? The earliest debates I’ve seen come from mid 2008).”

Actually, FactPiles been around since late 2006 (around Christmas or so). I remember when the much dreaded MC vs Fett debate first made it’s appearance. So many fanboys, myself included. I posted some of the first comments on the thread, well, within the first fifty comments. I won’t say what my username was. those were shameful days, a lot has changed on this site since then. Give thanks to the Admin and Triumvirate for establishing order. Marche too, he created the FactPile debating rules after all.

“Most of the people at factpile don’t like L-W much. But we respect him because his arguments have the numbers and info to back them up.”

Speak for yourself. Why do you think most people dislike him? I’ve not seen dislike from anyone but idiots, although admittedly I have limited experience.

“And puppetlike did you say? I think you are trying to become a new L-W. Being an Imitation is worse then being a puppet.”

Why? I’ve been debating a lot longer on Spacebattles than I have here, and in other forums before that. Methinks you are attempting to find fault where there is none., and as you are so obviously ignorant of the subject, here is some information about internet sockpuppets:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_(Internet)

“you tool”

Another unnecessary and childish addition to your post. Well done you.

Why? I’ve been debating a lot longer on Spacebattles than I have here, and in other forums before that. Methinks you are attempting to find fault where there is none., and as you are so obviously ignorant of the subject, here is some information about internet sockpuppets:

Sockpuppets? How…… Crude. It surprises me to think of someone with so called ” Intelligence” finds information about sock puppets on the internet. Pitiful.

“Speak for yourself. Why do you think most people dislike him? I’ve not seen dislike from anyone but idiots, although admittedly I have limited experience”

People dislike L-W because he finds the info for his arguements and has info to back it up, therefore rendering the other post useless. You try to do the same. But you can’t because someone else is already doing it. You are ” cramping” L-W’s style.

“you tool”

Another unnecessary and childish addition to your post. Well done you.”

I try to sum up the personality of arrogent people like you in as few words as possible. I know. Well done me.

I would like to note to you people who believe that this cannot be compared: you’re wrong. This CAN be compared within the degrees of reality. The reason we are capable of comparing a Space Marine to Bobba Fett is because we can see movies, actions, and read stories.

A Space Marine is 7 feet tall, and can crush a man’s skull with his bare hand. It’s fair to say that a Space Marine’s grip has at least 15 lbs per square inch (because that is the pressure required to crush a human head).

A Space Marine is armored with Power Armor. A .75 magnum caliber explosive round puts dents in the armor, but also bounces off. We also know that a Space Marine can hug a mortar round and come out mortally wounded, but minimizing damage around him because that’s a story that actually happened (in canon). Space Marines train and fight for several centuries and fight in dozens of campaigns and thousands of battles; the fluff says that.

The Space Marine is armed with a .75 magnum caliber sub-machinegun and can shoulder-fire it. It’s safe to say that’s a pretty powerful gun that’s probably going to rip straight through Bobba Fett’s armor, because the laser shots he takes are extremely weak weaponry compared to what we see in Warhammer 40,000 equivalents. If Bobba Fett climbed on the Space Marine’s back, if he rolled over, Bobba Fett will suffer major injury due to several broken bones.

“You have got to be KIDDING me. Was that not simple enough?

Well to explain, looking up information on sockpuppets then using that to insult someone. Crude and pitiful. It really is.”

It seems that you actually are beyond all help. If you re-read my post, you’ll notice that I provided the information for your benefit, since you seemed so obviously ignorant. I even said so, right here;

“Methinks you are attempting to find fault where there is none., and as you are so obviously ignorant of the subject, here is some information about internet sockpuppets:”

Your reading and/or comprehension abilities seem to be lacking.

“Arrogant? Am I the arrogant one? Let’s see your first post to me:”

It helps if you actually quote what I said. And here it is:

“What was that initial comment about? If sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, patronization is definitely the most pathetic form of insult. Why did you assume that you were a fanboy, or something similar? Did you even read my post?”

Let’s see the difference between that and this;

“@ Sean0931
Ok little boy. Take a deep breath and calm down. All calm now? Good. Now let THIS fanboy drop you down a notch. Mentally prepared Sean? No I don’t think so either. Oh well.”

Notice the relative lack of flaming, flamebaiting and other general stupidity?

“I said that because you were bitching about stuff that had no relevence to the thread. Even I am not stupid enough to bring Swiss Guard and FORCE: Ground troops into an arguement about Space marines and boba fett. Who was bitching then? I think you know.”

Sorry, what? Do you have any idea what you are talking about? How was that argument “bitching”? Please elaborate.

Also, the use of “Even I am not stupid enough” gets two thumbs up from me.

“And about the wookiepedia thing. You just didn’t like it that I proved you wrong. Thats the only reason why you are so angry.”

Masterful. Such logic is rarely found on the internet. I congratulate you on your supreme intelligence.

Or you could just try reading how our argument went again. It could be enlightening.

“Chill”

Says the one who has thrown around the majority of flaming of insults. Rolleyes emoticons were made for moments like these.

“@ Sean0931
Ok little boy. Take a deep breath and calm down. All calm now? Good. Now let THIS fanboy drop you down a notch. Mentally prepared Sean? No I don’t think so either. Oh well.”

“I had my reason. First you were acting like a little child when L-W did a good job of destroying your arguement and general proving you wrong.”

I’m sorry if you are incapable of justifying your actions without appealing to others. Bringing others into this argument does not make you right, nor does it make you look any less of a prick.

“both Mata and L-W then proceed to lecture you about proper Factpile proceedings about postings. They would not have done that if they didnt think it was nessicary. They did it to me as well so I know what its like.”

Relevant how? Please get to the point.

“And for our arguement of the disruptor gun. Like I had said, from a reliable source, they are ineffient to run.”

You just simply do not understand do you? I’ll use the tried and tested method of all caps to help you understand. THE INFORMATION ON WOOKIEPEDIA IS NOT CANON. UNLESS YOU PROVIDE ME WITH A QUOTE FROM SOMETHING THAT IS CANON, THE INFORMATION IS IRRELEVANT. And again, Wookiepedia is not a reliable source unless the author provides quotes and references, because otherwise it is quite possible that the information has simply been made up. Besides looking at the DXR-6 Disruptor page, I can’t see anything saying that it was inefficient to use on capital ships. Please “put up or shut up”

“With my battleship guns example, i showed how bigger is not a synonem of better and doing ammuntion logistics is a nightmare. Trust me, I know from experience.”

No, you provided a false analogy. This argument is in no way related to “bigger is better”, which you would know if you actually read/understood my posts. A less false analogy would be an “X” rifle that can punch through battleship armour using a standard sized magazine. If the “X” rifle can already punch through the sides of an Iowa using “X” 5.56x40mm ammo, how much more powerful will even a “X” 20mm shell be compared to a standard one?

“And saying that fetts disruptor gun can penerate star ship armour. Just how dense is that compared with Space marine armour?”

Some sources (Some of the EU novels, though I don’t have a direct quotation, and I don’t have any Star Wars book) apparently say that Star Destroyer armour includes a few molecule thin barrier of Neutronium. Of course, this is stupid, in my opinion, because in that case the Victory class would weigh more than a planet, with gravity to match.

@ sean

I sugest you do the same. Bringing other threads from other sites in not realivent data either.

And I will say again.
You foolish tool.

@ Sapper007

Good call mate, Good call

Oh, the humanity. I didn’t take what that site said and treat it as canon, you silly little prick. I presented that thread so that Matapojo could see the conclusion that others came to, which is different to using a wookiepedia quote to disprove an argument. If you can’t see how, you really are stupid.

Sigh. My head hurts talking to this guy. Its like arguing with a five year old.

No, the reason why I said It is not relevent is because, even if a majority of people say this thing is good or this thing wins, the arguement is not valid because it is a biased opinion.

My god, if I were not subject to fighting with you over the interent, I would destroy you with my bare hands. I find you so frustrating.

Oh And sapper.
You my friend are a good man.

“How incredibly lame”

You resort to insulting a complement from one factpiler to another. I just agreed with him. Now go cry in a corner if you can’t take it.

You my idiotoic pathetic, Mentally retarded excuse for a human are the lowest form of scum I have ever had the misfortune to argue with.

See, I have a wide vocab as well. You tool.

“You my idiotoic pathetic, Mentally retarded excuse for a human are the lowest form of scum I have ever had the misfortune to argue with.”

Oh comeon David, you are better than that :/
I have no idea why you guys are fighting so much about this. You all sound silly to me at least.

As for this:
“If the disruputor was that good at destroying starships then why hasn’t the Empire put them On its star destroyers Hmmm?”

The disruptor rifle appears to be a VERY expensive instrument, also turbolasers are starship level, while the disruptor rifle is man-level. It’s not exactly fair to compare those two in such a way. The disruptor would OHKO the basic marine I am guessing, but the higher caste marines, which Admin decided to go with, would cream Boba.

Heck, I just wish Samus vs Space Marine got a revive in activity due to this, if Boba can beat a basic Space Marine, then Samus would wipe the floor with one without breaking a sweat.

Well first of all, if Samus is allowed Phazon then one hit, one single hit of phazon would end the marine. He would die, sooner or later of phazon corruption. Heck samus could hit him once and speed boost away. Since a SM’s movement speed is PATHETIC compared to Samus’s he would never catch her and he would just die from the phazon.

Things are only a little less dull if you take away phazon, but the results are similar. Her tech is too good.

But as with Boba, the higher ranked ones (I don’t know their names) will defeat Samus. Especially the ones with the Iron Halo thing.

Regardless I wish that thread got more attention, it kinda died before Samus got bumped up and never was thoroughly discussed afterwards. Even if you completely disagree with me, I hope that you would post there

Here we have the difference between EU Fett-wank…

“Fett was able to shoot a scout trooper through the skull who was zooming away at full speed (500 km/h) on his speeder bike. That is but one example of Fett’s amazing accuracy.”

..and the canon.

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8445/fmiss.jpg

Which is still below Movie canon.

And storm troopers seem like children in terms of accuracy against plot characters too. You can’t make every single character seem like king of the hill in every single scene, and when you need certain characters to survive… *Shrug*

The EU shows his potential in terms of accuracy. If he was able to do something, then he was able to do it. That’s irrefutable. Just because he CAN doesn’t mean he can consistently. Although I am sure that scout trooper was a completely expendable character in that situation.

Regardless, if the Basic Space marine gets hit once by the disruptor he will be begging his higher officers for something better than what he has.

Internet Tough Guy behaviour. How pathetic. I’d pay to see you try.

Keep your money friend. You will need it to pay for your funeral.

So I’m guessing you want to go toe to toe with a soldier in training to join the military.

Man for someone so smart, you have no idea what I am capable of, do you?“If the disruptor was that good at destroying starships then why hasn’t the Empire put them on its star destroyers Hmmm?

Because turbolasers are better. You would have thought they would have scaled it up. But they haven’t. So what does this tell you?”

Nothing I have seen on the internet has ever made me literally facepalm before. Congratulations, you’re making history in the field of ignorance. Just when I thought you’d reached a final plateau of stupidity, you manage to astound me with yet another revelation of idiocy. You just keep pushing and pushing those boundaries, striving ever upwards towards a goal of perfect ignorance. I’m supporting you every step of the way. You can do it.

Wow you have learnt a lot from this debate. When you cannot give an answer, you restort to insults.

good job

Oh, and by the way, no offense to any nerds intended. My best friend was a bit of a nerd, as was I in High School. Which is why I’m on this site, I guess.

“Here we have the difference between EU Fett-wank…”

It’s the same with all stories made into films/games. Just look at Fire Warrior.

Actually, don’t.

David seriously, this is pretty uncalled for. Let’s not bring people’s courage into question here alright? This is a site to debate fictional characters, not to state things that are pure conjecture just because there are no consequences to said actions. Telling him to save his money for his funeral is going a bit beyond typical internet trash talking… agreed?

Judging by the last 10 comments, one might not even be able to deduce what this match is truly about…

as for me, I think Fett takes the basic marine, and gets pwnd the by higher ones.

but he DOES kill the basic ones.

“I think Fett takes the basic marine, and gets pwnd the by higher ones.

but he DOES kill the basic ones.”

And I disagree. Despite having some disadvantage in firepower, I believe that a basic Marine with his superior superhuman abilities and experience would defeat Fett.

Star Wars blasters can be deflected by Light sabers, The speed of the shots are that slow it amazing that they dont just step out of the way of the blasters.
Now If Fett went up against Any Space he would surely lose, Seeing as though Space Marines With Centuries Of Combat Experiance and the fact that their Armor shrugs off pretty much all Blasts and the fact that their Bolters shoot highly explosive rounds that can evaporate a human and even go through Power Armor Im thinking Fett will be the bitch, Thats just a Space Marine, Even a Scout could defeat Fett, Dont even get me started with Terminators

@admin

Space Marine in Tactical Armour for the prize?

Space marine would indeed win. However, if a basic Necron troop were to get involved, their atoms would be stripped away and their meager souls will be given to the star gods. The star gods would then eat all of your planets.

But in a fight between the space marine and boba, space marine would indeed win. Boba’s only defense would be in knowing that he can fly away like a pansy and attempt to pick at the space marine’s armor with his blaster. The space marine would proceed to tear him in half with his bear hands.

Then the star gods would eat your planets. Necrons win!

Fett WILL take this against a basic Space Marine in Power Armour of whatever pattern or lesser. The reason is quite simple, and we have discussed this in the past. Fett’s highly modified DXR-6 gives him complete advantage in the range and lethality department…
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/DXR-6_disruptor_rifle

The Space Marine might be superior to him in close combat (which can still be debated), but it amounts to nothing if Fett can absolutely obliterate the Marine down to the molecule from a safe distance. The only saving grace to this weapon is energy shielding, which the basic marine has none. He is just a walking bunker, that can tank the toughest of attacks, but means very little to a weapon that can rip the very molecules of that armour appart.

What is more, Fett can keep the advantage of range in this fight with his jet pack. To put it in game terms you could understand, you have to think of Fett as a Crisis suit Tau with an R48″, S9, AP2, Assault 1 gun against a marine with his R24″, S4, AP5, Rapid Fire Bolter and his epic 3+Sv.

No matter how you look at it, the Space Marine would never catch up to Fett to even land a single Bolt shot (which may very well be survived by the Mandalorian and his also epic armor), let alone use his “superior” close combat prowess. In fact, Fett might get to land 3-4 shots before he even has to fire his jet pack’s short burst (he does have long burst, mind you) to sustain the range advantage.

The fight is no contest.

by the way I saw Boba held a light saber and he was able to hold his own against darth vader although obviusly i thiink he will lost to vader but just an insight he is not that weak in melee

Well, what about my suggestion, anyone?

The problem is that Fett can romp with Jedi, and take on several of tem at once, and we’re talking quite good ones. I would say he’s slightly slower, never having heard of him beating the absolute elite, but he has insane speed and reflexes too. He will manage to lock on if the combatants start far enough from each other for guns to be a feasible option. His Jetpack will also allow him to stay out of the Marines’ reach for a while, dictate the flow of battle and he can freely choose his own position. There is always the chance the Marine might manage to pump him a bit to full of Bolter fire first, but Fett has my vote here.

This is why I suggest giving the Space Marine similar equipment, as the Astartes have such things in their armory. Standard issue Mk. 7 “Aquila” armor, a jump pack, plasma/melta/inferno gun plus a shiny Power Sword. The marine now has equipment to match, and instantly gets my vote, both at range and up close.

Like everything else, it varies. But no matter which version we use, it’s very good for changing position damn quickly, which is the biggest advantage with Fett’s Jetpack.

couldn’t fett just jetpack into the air and rain down disruptor fire on the marine?
right now i don’t know who’ll win but i’d like to see fett win