Sonic Vs Flash | FactPile

OriginalA

August 10, 2009
#1

Sonic’s upper speed limit is the Speed of Light (light speed attack anyone?).
I’m not a comic buff, but I think I’ve heard that the Flash (some of them at least) are FTL.

Also The Flash’s ability to steal kinetic energy, so couldn’t he just rob Sonic of his speed? Once Sonic is no longer moving he should be able to be taken down rather easily.

All of this is assuming Sonic doesn’t Chaos Control the Flash into outerspace though; that would kind put a damper on things for the Flash.

I’m going with the Blue Blur here because I’m more familer with him.

Battra Boy

August 10, 2009
#2

Agreed. Sonic is more powerful but Flash is just that bit faster.

We could make this interesting by turning this into a race eh admin?

A race to this finish line with combat allowed.

What say you?

Sure. Make it two battles. Who’s more powerful, and who’s faster? – Admin

monokid

August 10, 2009
#3

Flash is much faster and his speed is more versatile with abilities connected to it.

AkumaTh

August 10, 2009
#4

Sonic the Hedgehog’s top speed, at base, is the Speed of Sound. He needs to roll up into a ball to charge it up to attack enemies in Sonic Adventure, and for every other game it requires rings to perform.

If this is Wally West Flash, he is the fastest of the Flashes going beyong the speed of light. And if you look at his Wiki entry in the Flash Wiki ( http://theflash.wikia.com/wiki/Wally_West ), you’ll see he has abilities that can trump anything Sonic can do.

Heck, even put in the Chaos Emeralds, power giving to Sonic for a limited time, and the Flash can still handle him easy. Big fan of Sonic, but the Flash is the Icon of speed heroes. And for people who want to do research on Sonic:
http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_(Character)

Captain Epic

August 10, 2009
#5

I have money on Sonic because of the Super Sonic ability.

Marche

August 10, 2009
#6

I’ll give this to the flash.

Even for the lightspeed dash he has to charge to perform the move,then The flash kicks him like a soccer ball.

Megaraptor18

August 10, 2009
#7

I remember playing Sonic when I was a kid. The kid in me wants to go with Sonic but a even louder voice is screaming in my head is saying Flash will win this.

OriginalA

August 10, 2009
#8

I don’t suppose we could bring in Archie Sonic who is casually FTL. /joke because I hate Archie Sonic.

I think it all depends on who actually gets moving first. The Flash is faster with his feet, but Sonic can control Space and Time with the Chaos Emeralds. So yeah I think both the race and the fight are kind of a draw with the Flash winning right at the start but once Chaos Control is induced its game over for the Flash, but if the Flash can prevent Sonic from using CC somehow then he is going to win.

There is also the possibility that Sonic doesn’t even need to by physically holding the Chaos Emeralds to use CC. Up until Sonic Unleashed everyone wondered “where the heck does Sonic put those” and Unleashed showed that he keeps them in Hammerspace. In the Genesis games Sonic uses the Emeralds while they are in Hammerspace to turn into Super Sonic (or Hyper Sonic if he has the Super Emeralds). Since he could tap into them without drawing them out of Hammerspace then he probably could do the same while using them for CC instead of his Super transformation.

By the by Sega has said that in his base form Sonic can run at supersonic speeds (making his base speed at least Mach 1.2 [because Mach 0.8-1.2 can be labeled as trassonic]) and some people at Gaiaonline have calculated that he could reach up to Mach 2. Within the definition itself though Sonic could be able to get up near to but not including Mach 5 (as it is labed as hypersonic).

Bombshell
August 10, 2009
#9

Flash can barely match Superman in top speed and Sonic just have some recently bad games.

AkumaTh

August 10, 2009
#10

@OriginalA: http://theflash.wikia.com/wiki/Wally_West#Powers
Look at Time & Dimensional Travel to counter the Time part, and Increased Perceptions to counter the Space part. If Chaos Control is activated, Flash will not be effected by it as he can pretty much experience it anytime he wishes.

@Bombshell: Same link as above, but look at Superhuman Speed. “Theoretically, speeds greater than Mach 10, are dangerous to the people and to the environment.” I’m pretty sure the only reason Superman was able to keep up was because Wally didn’t want to pull the Matrix speed on him.

Frank Zieglar
August 10, 2009
#11

The Flash played Sonic’s video game and beat him.

monokid

August 11, 2009
#12

@ Bombshell, it has been proven a lot of times that Flash is much faster than Superman.

Blood Dancer

August 11, 2009
#13

i don’t know much about them so i’ll go with The Flash

midnite marauder

August 11, 2009
#14

The Flash has this in the bag. He can create tornados, and could just vibrate his heart into another dimension.

Mista Cool

August 11, 2009
#15

When I saw this, I kinda laughed because I remember playing Sonic the Hedgehog for Sega Genesis and I’ve always loved The Flash. They’re both extremely fast, but Sonic can’t run at light-speed like The Flash can or vibrate through solid matter since he’s just an animal. I think that Flash would probably win, unless Sonic outsmarts him somehow. I can’t think of how Sonic could outsmart him. Maybe he could trap Flash somewhere or try to get The Flash to run off a really high mountain cliff. Except that Flash can move his arms around into a tornado motion to float towards the ground. Sonic can’t do that. This is a great battle. I know that they wouldn’t kill each other since they’re good.

Mista Cool

August 11, 2009
#16

It would be challenging for both of them to land a punch at each other because of the height difference. The Flash would have to try and kick Sonic at light-speed and Sonic would have to jump onto Flash and crawl around on him at hyper-speed while punching the crap out of him. A human is stronger than an animal, but with the speed Sonic is moving at, the speed would just make the force of his blows powerful.

IbeEd
August 14, 2009
#17

Wow. Wasn’t expecting my suggestion to get up so fast. I liiiike this place. XD

yrani gami
August 15, 2009
#18

So many geeks, so little trivia knowledge… The Flash (assuming that its Wally, not Barry) would mop the little blue speedster! Sonic’s biggest foe is Prof. Robotnik fer chrissakes people! The Flash has REALLY bad bad guys! The Flash also has so many more powers many people don’t know about. He can :A) Run at FTL speeds, B) Become intangible and/or invisible, C) Travel thru Time and different dimensions, D) Steal other speed to the point of freezing them indefinitely! E) Gains super-strength-like powers while in motion (the whole blade of straw through an oak tree in a hurricane thing) If you’re interested, try reading the Flash: ” Wonderland” or “Blood will Run” trade paperback collections written by Geoff Johns. He’s written for Smallville and currently Green Lantern’s “Blackest Night” arc… If you’re gonna be a geek, be a SUPERGEEK!

hyperspeedblur
August 15, 2009
#19

The Flash has run from one end of time and reality to another whenever he wants to. He outraced death on one than more occasion. He can also vibrate through solid objects. The Flash also has the power to punch an enemy with power of a white-dwarf star exploding. Hard to say who would win? I would bet on The Flash

yrani gami
August 15, 2009
#20

P.S.: The Flash has always let Superman think they were on the same speed level, but “in reality”, as Barry said to Clark most recently; “Clark, that was for charity.” before leaving the Man of Steel behind in the blink of an eye.

Dante Chief

August 15, 2009
#21

They both have speed even though flash is faster. So it all comes down to power which Sonic has, so my vote’s for him.

dark elmo
August 16, 2009
#22

The Flash would do the jerk but at the same be landing blows on Sonic but at the same be ironing some fresh gucci clothes. Come on now Sonic has power but he’s not fast enough for Flash. Sonic would take too much and zzzzzzzzzzzz!

Akegetsu
August 17, 2009
#23

At first glance I though “what the fu- the flash hands down.”
However I’m under the impression that super sonic is FTL. Evening the speed field. And since sonic has the advantage in power. I’d suprisinlgy give it to sonic. And like A said. Let’s not even talk about sonics from the comics. I rhymed ;D

AkumaTh

August 17, 2009
#24

@Akegetsu: Flash is faster then the speed of light, able to travel other worlds and through time. Super Sonic isn’t that fast. Flash also has the ability to remove other’s speed, so this is still Flash hands down.

Mechgeek
August 27, 2009
#25

well 4 all of the people who say that sonic is faster even the NAMES say whos faster. Sonic can originaly go as fast as time and the flash … do I even need 2 say it. Plus (i know that its been said 100 times) Flash can ‘steal’ speed and travel through time so even if there was a race Flash could go back in time and then finish the race just as it starts and sonic … well he can simply turns yellow use one of the o so famous chaos diamonds and prove that he’s inferoir.

todd
September 8, 2009
#26

You all neglected to mention that super sonic is INVINCIBLE! so for all intents and purposes, sonic goes super, he cannot lose to the flash. i love both characters, but as a sonic fanatic, im gonna go with the blue blur!

Dracosphinx

September 9, 2009
#27

Flash has no powers! hes on meth!

Who?

September 9, 2009
#28

“Flash has no powers! hes on meth!”

Crack Jack Flash!

Dracosphinx

September 9, 2009
#29

Whacha, sameruia jack….

Who?

September 9, 2009
#30

That would be badass…

Anyway, Flash gets his power from the almighty rock. You know, the biggest piece of crack in existance…

Marche

September 9, 2009
#31

The emeralds are not standard equipment.

Joe
September 29, 2009
#32

I havto go with sonic, Because. Super sonic is actually calculated to have a top speed ( without Chaos control) that is faster than the speed of ligh. then, there is hyper sonic, And ive also noticed that flash and sonic have similar abilities, Super sonic is also able to trael through time, and space. Super sonic can also become intangiable. I still go for sonic just because, Super sonic, can fly, is invinceable, and can pick up Godzilla with his left arm…Aswell as the Chaos abilities, And his healing abilities/ enemy dicipation abilities.

Of coures, I am going with the awesome sonic from the games/ sonic X series.

If it were the archie comic sonic…flash would win…just cause archie sonic sucks….

Huami
October 7, 2009
#33

God wins pit anything against God and they’re owned

AHEM

October 15, 2009
#34

The Flash MEGAPWNS Sonic effortlessly.

For anyone who thinks that Sonic, with upper speed limits in sound or light, could match the Flash . . . consider this:

1. The Flash can casually reach speeds over 500 times the speed of light, without bringing his true power to bear.

2. The Flash can steal or drain away the speeds of others, leaving Sonic as slow as a slug in an instant.

3. The Flash can react in the auttosecond range. To put that into perspective, one autosecond compares to one second the way one second compares to several billions of years.

4. The Flash can excelerate his reflexes to the point where the tick of every second lasts for millions or even billions of years from his perspective.

5. The Flash exceeds SUPERMAN in raw speed.

6. The Flash can use the Speed Force to provide himself with infinite stamina, and combined that with his ability to excelerate any part of his body, and he can heal from any injury almost instantly.

7. The Flash can break not only the light barrier, but the barriers of time and dimensional as well. He can move out of regular space into other dimensions or universes, out of time and space as we know it, travel through time and watch history go by, and even brush against the limit of the Speed Force barrier itself.

8. When moving at his immense speed, the Flash approaches infinite density, allowing him to strike with enormous strength far beyond anything Sonic can summon or block, and the Speed Force protects him from the impacts experienced during these strikes.

9. Flash does not need to eat, drink, sleep, etc. and can live solely on energy taken from the Speed Force.

10. The Speed Force cannot be repressed, drained dry, or separated from Flash in any way. Sonic can lose the Chaos Emeralds. The moment this fight starts, the Flash could zip through time and space, enter whatever dimension the CE are stored in, and snatch them.

I’m trying not to seem like a fanboy(I’m not, really), but this is really no contest. In terms of speed, you’d need to be a god to beat the Flash, or else have completely infinite speed. Sonic goes down HARD.

jeff smith
October 31, 2009
#35

Allright, now, Let me- I’ll just address things like this, we need a constructive debate,

#1. Sonic. Yes i am using the archie comics mainly, but LISTEN CLOSELY people.

SOnic’s old speed limit was 800mph..this was way back in the dang day

TOday

Hyper Sonic? THat is false. You have confused Sonic’s old form

If the average reader doesnt follow, let me explain

Sonic in the game Sonic the hedgehog 3, and the add on pack Sonic and Knuckles(making SOnic 3 and Knuckles when plugged in) had an additional form other than his infamous SUper Sonic form. That form was Hyper Sonic and was my avatar for a long time. It’s still on my account page , if you want a visual.

That is the highest superform Sonic has taken, acquired by unlocking the SUPER EMERALDS >I know because i did it on Sonic Mega COllection for the gamecube.

NOW< there is a difference between the definition of Supersonic speed(764 miles per hour at groudn level, closer to 660 35000+ ft altitude upwards- remember im a physics major and know this off the top of my head)

And Hyper Sonic – the CORRECT definition of it-is Mach 5+.

As opposed to Sonic’s Hyper Sonic form, a form which back then was beyong Super Sonic(Hyper Sonic has not appeared since, being phased ut as Super Sonic’s power increased)

K, still following guys? If you’ve managed to follow so far, you get a cookie.

Okay, ROund 2,

Sonic’s true speed.

First, anyone who has played Sonic Adventure, Sonic adventure 2, etc(shadow, Sonic heroes, Sonic 06) will know SOnic is past Mach 7 easily.

Why? The light speed DASH is in all those games. Oh, and in some of them(Sonic adventure/2/DX/Battle) the light speed attack exists. Oh, for those of you who didn’t finish the game like i did, SONIC HEROES has the light speed attack. Not the team attack, the real light speed attack

what does ^ mean? Well, a ligh speed move- ….and you want to tell me that Sonic is only hyper sonic?

Now, i’ll get serious. Sonic’s true top speed. His MAX, okay guys?

As a disclaimer, Chaos COntrol warps time and space, and if he has “stopped time” for himself, he’s moving at infintie speed via moving ANY distance with the timer staying 0. Provided he chooses to do that. Thats not his real max speed.

Sonic’s max speed- This has occured twice, and i have COVERED this before.

As far as i am aware timeline wise, this first occured in the comics. Doesn’t matter

A. In the archie comic Hypersonic #134, Sonic finally revealed his highest speeds. There were two missiles headed in opposite directions on a continent, that he had to stop. He needed to save the day, so he pulled out his True top speed, and ran so fast- Time stopped. He then proceeded to cream one missle , then went all the way to the other and took it out, with a side-effect! Sonic had trouble getting out of this mode. Sonic had to use methods liek trainspotting to help himself get unstuck from this speed.

Sonic X- Sonic had two real races with Chrus’s uncle and Sonic’s first met rival o n the show. Sam Speed.

In the first race, Sonic tapped a bit into his true power, in a race where Sam accelerated ahead of him. Sam mutters” the only way he can beat me now- is if he goes supersonic”

Then, Sonic accelerates, then run FORWARD, using speed on such a sheer level that Sam seems STOPPED to him as he passes by. Sam barely notices sonic, mainly startled by the ridiculous sonic boom.

#2. Their last official 2nd race. it was a whole episode. At the end, Sam is in a special rocket car. What does he do? he activates some sort of power generator, while neck-and neck with sonic and approaching the finishing line, and ZOOMs ahead, supersonically.

Sonic seems him pull away, and then struggles, and …really strains and pulls his max speed. he seems to dash ahead.

THey seem to hit the finish line at the same time.

WHat was revelaed that really happened? sonic moved so fast, he hopped the finish line, ran into the stadum and bleachers, showed off to slow-mo cameras(he had to wait till they finally took a pic), then hopped back down, onto the racetrack, and INSTANTLY accelerated from that point, and then gave a encore performance and tied the race. And no one saw him until the cameras had shots of him showing off posing in a world no one , including a guy who had just broken the sound barrier and seemingly tied sonic, could see.

Yes i can show episodes. I might do so, but the point is- all 3 of these events were depictions of his real non-cc speed.

And some say he is only hypersonic at best- I could use a commonly touted point on loungmoviecodec about him excaping a black hole that light could not escape, but i wont go there.

So, what does sonic have? a. the power to reach speeds where he covers ANY distance with no time passing. With or without CC. CC is just him doing wat he wants with time. But without it, he can strain himself and use his own power to do thi.

b. cc.''

c. his independent light speed moves. Hence, LIGHT SPEED MOVES..

and that missile time, in Hyper Sonic 134- that was him in his base form, hitting infinite speed. Not Super Sonic. So yes, i was talking about base sonic. Moving WAY , way, way past light speed.

Normal Sonic has slightly more speed feats

jeff smith
November 2, 2009
#36