Hmm, the Chozo vs. The might of the Adeptus Mechanicus….

Now this is a much fairer fight than MC vs. a SM. However with the massive amounts of pure endurance and firepower a SM has, I think he would prevail in the end, but I would definitely pay to watch this fight.

idk,would phazon have any effect?

@ marche, yeh im pretty sure phazon based attacks would effect the Space Marine

I have to agree with you Alpha. Space Marines are far more badass then Samus, and the fact that they’re semi-grounded in reality makes them far more awesome then Samus (whose suit makes no sense what so ever).

I think a Primarch would slaughter Samus, but she could hold her own against a Chapter Master or a Chaplain

Samus is very skilled and agile, but it all depends. Is this her suit with one E-tank, or is it full phazon with 150 heat seeking freeze missiles, and laser cannon. For SM, is it a new recruit with poor armor and just a bolter, or is it a Long Fang Space Wolf with enchanted sword, kraken round equipped bolter, terminator armor, and 500 years of experience behind him? Or is it a Primarch? It is too vague to tell. SMs have amazing strength, agility, and Space Wolves have keen animal senses, and beast rage as well. I would say a powerful experienced SM like Ragnar would win. Just your average run o’ the mill SM would easily fall before a heavily upgraded Samus, though.

Well, in 40k fluff Space Marines are near gods. A single marine can lay waste to massive numbers of alien scum. Much as I love Samus, I dont think she stands a chance agains a basic Marine, much less something like a Primarch.

A Sargeant with a Power Fist and a Plasma Pistol would make nice pile of gunk out of the Choso creation…and anything in it.

Dudes, Space Marines are capable of just as much epic feats as Samus, especially in all the books they’re in, like Iron Snakes or the Ultramarines series. Also, Space Marines can live for centuries, so of course they’d learn a thing or two in terms of destroying a faster, technologically superior foe. Furthermore, the armor of a Space Marine is composed of ceramite, the same material found in the Imperium’s mighty battletanks; so a Space Marine is literally a walking tank…. TANK!!! So how much punishment can Samus’s armor take?? Maybe that’s why it’s not big & mighty like a Space Marine’s, or maybe why it’ll fail during a protracted battle.

And the thing is, an Eldar in the 40k universe still moves way faster than a Space Marine, and the Marines still slaughter them like nothing, so the agility of Samus doesn’t exactly impair a Space Marine’s capabilities to win. In a book I read, Legion, a Space Marine moved faster than a guy could blink- the Space Marine was standing there one moment, then brutally choking him the next, without a hint of initial startup motion- I doubt Samus could do the same.

Also, Samus is infused with alien blood from Chozos, simple alien scum that Space Marines could brush aside easily. On the other hand, the genetic material that gives Space Marines their glorious power is taken directly from the mighty Primarchs or even from the God-Emperor Himself; sure Samus gets a little bit more agility and speed than the average human, but this pales in comparison to the heights of a Space Marine. This leads up to the Space Marine’s obvious technological disadvantage- this is completely offset by his superhuman physiology’s superior speed, strength, agility, and abilities to rapidly regenerate from wounds, resist lethal poisons, wade through temperature extreme areas or heavily irradiated and hazardous areas with just the skin on their backs, develop photographic memory, spit acid, or withstand mortal blows that would kill standard humans (like Samus), plus a little known fact is a biological enhancement that allows them to resist even the vacuum of space with their skin. Because armor is always going to be pierced or fail anyway no matter how advanced it is, eventually it’ll fall to the person inside the armor to carry the day, and that’s where the Space Marine’s superhumanity comes out on top-more than technology or fancy weaponry-in a prolonged fight.

And in firepower, where it would take several shots from Samus’s wave/plasma/ice/whatever beam to kill even normal space pirates or creatures, a Space Marine’s massive 75 caliber high explosive Bolt weaponry can blow chunks of a massive ork’s, tyranid’s, or daemon’s body apart with one shot, while a power weapon rips them apart if they ever get close up; sometimes the Marines just use their hands & teeth! And the Space Marine will find a way to deal with Samus’s screw attack, seeing as it’s upward motion only, so he can just strafe side to side easily.

So after all this ranting, it’s easy to say why Samus would be absolutely slaughtered by a fully armed & armored Space Marine.

FOR THE EMPEROR

Ya Space marines pretty much pwn that bitch

Samus has unbelievably superior technology, because Samus has absolutely no basing in reality whatsoever. It pains me to say that a fully-equipped Samus would probably beat a basic Space Marine, but the man of iron would have everyone cheering for him.

Postscript: a aspace marine’s armor and especially shoulder pauldrons are way cooler looking than Samus’

Can’t Samus just shoot a bunch of missiles at his head, that should finish him off.
By the way i’m not taking any sides, i’m just saying that this is probably what would happen.

Hey, hey; the Tau have been proven to be very effective against even novel space marines, why do you think they did so well in the Damocles Gulf Crusade, where there where enough space marines present to choke a hive fleet?

Sure I’m exaggerating but the Tau couldn’t have expanded so quickly if they didn’t have technology that far surpassed the Imperium.

Unfortunately you missed the entire subtext of my post in your subsequent rebuttal.

The subtext of the post being elements of: Hyperbole, contradiction, deliberately belittling humour.

Subject of subtext: Tim.

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I believe conventional English lore refers to this as sarcasm.

Understanding that sarcasm is very rarely translated successfully to the written medium of the internet, I will proceed to strike the sarcasm button in future.

My zeal for dickery shall go unpunished and unstopped!

Samus wins. She just runs circles around the space marine while firin’ everything she’s got at him. He might hit her a few times, but she’ll hit ‘em at least 75% of the time. He’ll be what space marines rarely are: overwhelmed. Samus wins.

Totally agree with you because Space Marine dominates! No, not dominates, ANNIHILATES!!

I say Samus could defeat a single basic marine. If there’s any more than one or if it’s more powerful than just a grunt, then Samus would probably lose.

But then again, Space Marines have been known to be subject to the Inverse Ninja Law. The Law states that the power of a given being (usually Ninja, but applies to other things) is inversely proportional to the number of similar beings present. One Space Marine is nigh unstoppable, but an army of Space Marines gets mowed down in the thousands.

just a battle brother would die anything above would samus and a terminator would rip out the bounty hunters spine beat it to life with it just to kill it again

“The thing though is that there is no “grunt” or “basic” Space Marine,”
They’ve got lower ranking ones in lighter armor though.

Terminators have been stepped on by Titan war machines and climbed out of the footprint with nothing more than a few scratches at worst. Samus could only run away from a Terminator in the hopes that after a few years he gets bored and goes on to killing Xenos….if she lasts past the first 30 seconds.

A bolter round is a mass-reactive gyrojet on steroids, packed with the adequate explosive (in most books) to blow apart even armored humanoids, making them nothing more than foul piles of smoking red goo in a single shot. Now take a barrage of these highly accurate mini-missiles and apply them to the exact same point on Samus’ armor a few seconds apart, not even cover would last long especially under the physical blows of the head-sized fists of a normal space marine (a Terminator with Power fist would just have to grab her once for it to be all over so…) combine all this and you get a baked Samus souffle, her agility would keep her alive for a bit, but SMs have almost infallible accuracy and speed, it would all eventually catch up to her.

And woe betide Samus if she actually attempted melee combat, Space Marines can dent the hulls of tank meant to withstand orbital bombardment with their armored fists, this combined with hundreds of years of hand-to-hand combat classes, speed so fast they appear as blurs to even enhanced humans, and a level of dexterity and balance so great they would put the best gymnasts to shame would mean the best place for Samus is totally out of a SMs reach (not that that’s much safer).

Your bog standard SM (I don’t fully agree with Space Marine’s assessment that a Neophyte would be able to kill Samus) is a near god in his universe, a universe populated with the sort of stuff that would make Samus shit her armor, and they do all the while praising the emperor with a fire in their heart, enjoying every life they take…

While this is fairer that MC vs SM, this is an almost easy victory for the Emperor’s god-men servants.

“How many Space Marines are there, just a vague idea would be nice.”

Before the Horus Heresy, there were around 205,000 Space Marines.

It is believed that the current number of loyal Space Marines now number up to 1,000,000.

I say 2 million, The Ultramarines have 1 million and all the other chapters have like 2000.

“I say 2 million, The Ultramarines have 1 million and all the other chapters have like 2000.”

Jesus, where on Earth did you get *that* information from? And who taught you mathematics?

One thousand Chapters times two thousand units per Chapter equals two million Space Marines. Add the supposed one million Ultramarines and you end up with a whopping total of three million Marines.

Either way, the current Chapter strength of the Ultramarines numbers no more than one thousand units at most.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ultramarines

Seven years after the death of Horus, the Second Founding changed the Space Marines organization after the Codex Astartes, which states that a Space Marine Chapter should be split into 10 companies of 100 Marines each, plus a Space Marine Captain, Apothecary, Company Standard and Chaplain for each company. Each and every Chapter is composed of around one thousand Marines, there are a thousand Chapters in existence.

Thus you have a total of 1,000,000 Marines in the post-Heresy era.

what about the black templars,no one knows how many people they have in their ranks, but the inquisition estimates their numbers are far above 1 million, although the have no proof.

Where are people getting these preposterous numbers from?

The Black Templars are estimated to have at most only six thousand warriors available, with most of their forces divided between secondary Chapters to suit the thousand man strength standard as dictated by the Codex Astartes (They found a loophole to avoid the wrath of the Inquisition).

The entire Space Marine Crusade in itself is composed of around one million warriors, where are they going to find the Gene Seed necessary to create an extra million Templars without the Inquisition or Imperial Forces catching wind of it?

“*Thats* where I got my….Imformation-ish stuff from. ^^^”

Get’s some contacts then, or at least re-attach your retinas.

It’s pretty clearly stated that the total sum of post-Heresy Loyalist Marine Legions numbers no more than one million, Chaos Marine numbers are pretty much unknown (So many of them are engaged in extreme martial duels within the warp, or are just walking bloated Corpses) at this point in time. Apparently the forces of Chaos are not fond of taking a census.

Either way the total population of the Macragge system is estimated to be only 400 million, how on Holy Terra are they going to recruit one million Ultramarines from such a small population, when it requires the total cooperation of every Planetary system in the Imperium to keep their current Marine Legions active?

It’s logically impossible.

“Samus has weapons capable of piercing any armor”

Give me an example.

It doesn’t really matter how strong your armor is when a beam goes through it like it’s not there. It won’t even damage the armor, just ignore it. What’s does matter is if a Space Marine can survive most of his internal organs have been liquefied and frozen, then liquefied again.

Scenario is referring to the Nova Beam. The beam is based on high frequency mining laser technology gained from the Space Pirates on their home world. The weapon itself is used to shoot through armour. Due to the weapon stacking system in Corruption, the Nova Beam fires the plasma beam (which has the distance and rapid fire rate of the power beam), but it is now able to pass through armour.

you just said samus vs space marine you never said any pacific kind of space marine so she could be fighting anything between a scout and a chapter master however ill just asume you’re talking about a normal power armored marine in wich case samus will win hands down

“the Nova Beam fires the plasma beam (which has the distance and rapid fire rate of the power beam)”

STOP! You failed right there.

Iron Halo – A conversion field that dissipates all kinetic and energy based attacks.
From L-W http://www.factpile.com/master-chief-vs-space-marine-warhammer-40k

Yeah, Space marines have that. And all of samus’s utilise energy and kinetic based attacks. So yeah, you lose. samus just got wtf pwned

Except that you know, there’s about 1 Iron Halo for every Chapter of Space Marines. If this Space Marine that Samus is facing get’s an Iron Halo, then Samus gets Hypermode.

I’ll leave the debating on how an Iron Halo would handle thousands of Multi-terawatt blasts, but I can tell you right now that it would be unable to convert an exotic energy like Phazon into pure light.

So your saying if kharne hit a space marine’s iron halo with gorechild that it would do absolutely nothing and completely dissipate? Then how do space marines ever die if they can somehow dissipate ALL kinetic energy.

Yeah, I know strange huh? This is another one of those canon conflicts like starwars and stuff.

Not really, even L-W isn’t infallible. The Iron Halo dissipates oncoming energy attacks into Light. It doesn’t work too well on solid rounds or other physical attacks. It’s meant to just add an extra degree of protection for a Space Marine Chaplin or something. But that’s a moot point since all of Samus’ weapons are energy based.

Samus at 99% corruption with a phazon powered screw attack. Her suit has fended off the the spiritual attacks of Chozo Ghosts, the psionic attacks of Gorea, and a Metroid’s life draining. That ‘puny beam’ she has is a six foot blast of pure plasma, electricity, and ice at the same time without any lost potency. It passes through all matter without slowing down, and does really terrible things to flesh.

Her missile can go semi-automatic, too.

I think he’d be an idiot to get in the way. It’s rapid fire with a lock-on enhancement. I also think hypermode will destroy the Marine pretty well. Just keep laughing; you can’t change my opinion.

That all depends on how well a Space Marine can track and lead a target that is moving faster than Mach 1.

By the way a 60cm long “Combat Knife” isn’t much compared to Samus’s whole 6′1″ body being covered in plasma.

“She won’t even get to use he little plasma attack. Unless the marine doesn’t want to waste his ammunition, he would use his great speed and agility to dodge the plasma, and stab a 60cm long “Combat Knife” through her neck.”

Except that, you know, Plasma Weapons waste Space Marine Power Armor.

“Knowing the Chozo, Samus might even be able access to Warp for psyker weapons.”

Eldar weaponry

Honestly, if Samus starts getting her hands on the more advanced Space Marine technology, like say an Iron Halo and the Terminator Suit, she would become a force of nature.

we’ve never really seen the strength of the actual armor under Samus’s shields. In fact, with the experience that I’ve had with Metroid I think the only thing that kills you is the lack of life support in the suit.never have I seen a scratch on the Power suit or it’s succesors.