Depends entirely really. If Riddick only has his default blades then Drizzt stands a good chance of victory. If on the other hand he gets even the smallest calibre gun, Drizzt is taking the fall here.

I think it depends if Drizzt’s darkness spell will affect Riddick. Not very sure about Riddick’s abilities other than what I partially played in the game.

If Drizzt uses his shadow ball attack, Riddick will not be able to see through it. Even the dark elves who use it cannot see inside of it.

His glowing eyes will not help him in fighting inside the Dark Orb and Drizzt due to his well trained senses will eaisly find Riddick and slice him to pieces.

Also SS Riddick is nowhere near a match for Drizzt. He’s the greatest swordsman in the world pretty much.

He has defeated one of the Strongest Demons in his own series a few times and has come out standing.

So Riddick being a threat to Drizzt? Nah, the most he’d probably amount to would be a highly skilled bodyguard in Drizzts world.

I think this is actually pretty close match up. Drizzt haas his advantages but so does Riddick. Plus the character’s are more alike then they appear since the character Riddick is kind of based on the Drow if you look closesly. He prefers the darkness, just as ruthless, likes to take people on aware, and is one of the more feared in his universe just like they are.

Drizzt Advantages-Blades have longer reach, has the racial ability to cast shadow, fairie fire, and levitate, best swords man his world.

Drizzt Weaknesses-According to racial stats of elves he’s weaker and has lower constitution, doesn’t fight as well in sunlight(Riddick has his goggles), and is described as sometimes reckless and rash.

Riddick Advantages-Much stronger, arguebly faster(In his anime he is observed fighting armed opponents head on with only a knife and was winning), has that rage of the furian ability, more ruthless, can operate in sunlight without any hampering of his abilities due to his goggles, much more agressive, has more of a killer instinct, can kill you with just about anything, and arguebly is the more patient of the 2.

Riddick Weakness-His combat ability isn’t as honed as Drizzt, basically useless in the light without his goggles, typically uses weapons with less lenth then drizzt.

I think this is anyone’s game here. Like I said Drizzt has a lot of advantages but so does Riddick and I’m leaning more towards him depending on what he’s armed with since Riddick is the stronger by far, at least as fast if not faster, and much more ruthless so you can count on him to fight dirty and cheat the first chance he gets.

highly skilled, this would be more a game of sneaking around by both parties

@Prime-You misunderstand. In the anime he fought men armed with assualt rifles head-on with a knife and won. That’s why I say he’s as fast or faster then Drizzt and besides that what do you mean anime blurs up? Are you talking about CGI anime or hand drawn cause I’ve never seen hand drawn anime blur up.

Also why do you call Riddick a pansy for? What makes the character a pansy because what I’ve seen from the character he’s very interesting and plane badass. I assume you base your opinion off the person who plays him but there’s much more to the character then the person who plays him and actually Riddick is Vin’s best role.

And lastly in the world of Faerun Riddick’s class would probably be based on his fighting ability a fighter/rogue/shadow dancer/ and possibly ranger due to his affinity with animals. Like I said your underestimating the Riddick just a bit.

Did you guys know that Riddick is a guest character in Fallout Tactics?

@AHEM-And you overlooking the fact that Riddick isn’t human. He’s a Furian which are stronger, faster, smarter, and more agressive. And he’s much better at backstabbing then the Drow is. And when I said he’s fought opponents head on they were armed with futuristic assualt rifles a farcry from the swords, spears, arrows, and like that Drizzt is used to.

@AHEM-I know what your saying but from what I gathered from all three movies he is most definitly faster then a normal human(like I said fighting men armed with assualt rifles head on with a knife is pretty impressive), stronger(able to toss men ten to 20 feet with his hands), and smarter(able to figure out alien technologies and weaknesses with a casual once over). If you wanta complete testiment of his abilities simly watch the movie Chronicles of Riddick: Assualt on Drak Athena. Yes it was a movie first and its better then the game. It takes place right after Pitch Black.

@midnight
where would i find that movie?

o do you mean dark fury?

Wait, is Drizzit getting his Mithril mail? if so, does Riddick get a firearm?

@mm
ya basically, jus 1s the longer version

Yeah firearms are not fair unless Drizzt get Tamrial or however its spelled then it would be fair. But as it stands I think both combatants are equals in all but strength. I think this outcome of this match depends on what Riddick is armed with.

@ss-Ulaks? What’s that?

I dont see how everyone seems to think “They’re equal in all but strength” Drizzt is retarded fast, he would be much much faster then Riddick, Which I think would be the Deciding factor

so when we get down to it we have 2 badass nonhumans that see in the dark and use blades

@Pcp-Once again you over-exagerate the movements of his sword are hard to keep up with but are not to fast to be seen or else his enemies would be completely unable to parry his attacks. Just ask character like Zaknafian, Artemis, and Obould if his attacks are too fast. Obould and Artemis fought him to a stand-still, Artemis being an ordinary human at the time, and Zaknafian nearly defeated him. The reason why he wins most of his fights is through pre-planning and hitting his enemies hard and fast and dropping them before they can react. It also does help that most of his enemies are cowards anyway.

midnight i agree with pcp first becuse the reason why drizzt weres his bracers on his anckles is becuse his hands are already sooo fast that if he did he couldnt controll his hands also you mentioned that drizzt would be hardpressed to see in daylight but becuse he left his home city of menzoberranzan at a young age for a drow he addapted earlier plus if they did fight in the dark he has ferrier fire and dont forget if he gets into any fights he reverts back to his native self the “hunter” wich allows him to notice weaknesses enemy flaws eaiser

he is better in light than his brothers, but thats all, and he wears a hood for that much easier to remove than the googles, and those flash pellets, we can assume he is out since he hasnt used them since the 1st book

“I think it would end in an Artemis/Drizzt thing, both can’t defeat each other…Unless Drizzt brought out Guen. But then again, Riddick has an affinity for animals, so it would be EXTREMLY close.”

I don’t think an affinity for animals is going to help much, considering that Drizzt is very close to Guen and also possesses the statuette which is used to control the panther and bring it from the astral plane.

my bad i meant to they wouldn’t allow to run around with i knife while you’re getting your ass shot at in the game.

if it wasnt for that reason** first section, last sentence

artemis entreri is as good as drizzt but not near as old

Bulky != slow. Besides … I wouldn’t call Riddick bulky. Fit, yes, muscled, yes, but, he’s not slow. He’s pretty fast, actually.

@Mac. 2d8 is the .50AE in a Desert Eagle, assuming you’re lifting D20M stats. A regular .50 cal is 2d12. Additionally, in D20M one’s Massive Damage Threshold is going to be about a third that of D&D (Constitution score instead of 50) at best.
2d8 is also the same amount of damage done by a 5.8 millimeter round in a P90, which is the same as NATO 5.56mm round; it’s also teh same amount of damage as a D20 Future PL6 laser pistol – and, somehow, all of them do more damage than being shot with an mass singularity. Drizzt has … a Con of 16? I think – at best. That means if Riddick does a double-tap (which in D20M got screwed relative to what it does in real-life) Drizzt is making a save or die nearly every time he gets shot. And, as PL goes up, generally, so does base weapon damage, with some notably poorly thought-out exceptions. I would peg the Riddick-verse at an average PL of 7-8, some factions higher than others in certain areas than others.
Besides, if Riddick has a gun … Drizzt has no chance because Riddick puts a shot into the Drow’s face.

Drizzt is fast, yes, but he’s not fast enough to dodge or deflect either bullets or directed energy weapons of the sort seen in teh Riddick-verse.

Why do you guys swear up and down that because Drizzt is an Elf his senses automatically outclass Riddick’s when in fact Riddick is a Furian who’s senses far outclass those of humans as well as in ability.

Furthermore your making shit up. Drizzt did not beat Wulfgar in grappling(which means both combatants grabbing each other and trying to force the opponent into the ground or into a submission hold) because he would have lossed in a second cause that’s not Drizzts skill. He beat Wulfgar in swordsmanship. Nice try though. If he tried to grapple with Riddick he be torn apart.

And lastly in skill Riddick isn’t terribly outclassed either. He is a trained Spec Ops killer who outclasses Drizzt in speed, strength, durability, as well as raw aggression. I have brought forth evidence of this in the link I presented now its you guys turn.

Oh and Riddick sees better in the dark the Drizzt does. Drizzt like all other creatures of the underdark use infrared vision ie they see body heat. Riddick on the other hand just sees things for what they are exactly except with a purple hue. Once again nice try.

@midnite marauder
okay, yes Drizzt beat Wulfgar in sword fighting, but he also beat him in hand to hand sort of too. in Legacy, Legacy of the Drow Book I Wulfgar grabs Drizzt by the shirt and slams him up against the wall (he is PO’d because Regus told him that Drizzt made out with his fiance… LIES *cough* sort of ) Drizzt, if I remember correctly wrapped his legs around the barbarian’s arm, got himself loose via punching him in the face, slid under Wulfgar’s legs, kicked him where it hurts, then kicked the back of his knees, pulled him to the ground then, when he tried to get up, punched him in the face again with the hilt of his blades, all the while keeping a confused WTF? demeanor… does that count as “grappling”? this is on page 20, I think.

also while Drizzt has infrared vision, he also has dark vision, shown by the way they portray night as extremely bright, to drow, and the upper underdark as lighter than what they’re used to. Even though, to us, it still seems black. I don’t think they have that distinction in infrared which is all heat colors. It really comes down to if Riddick can fight with his eyes closed. because of his night vision I don’t think he would be too used to it, where as Drizzt trained to handle combat in a darkness globe. which is where it will end up being, if he doesn’t just cast a small one around the guy’s head. They do have the ability to attach a globe to objects (shown by sojourn with mushi’s shield) and from what I’ve read a small one is easier than a large one.

In ranged combat, Riddick has him. I love Drizzt and I know he’s fast, but arrows<bullets as far as speed goes, even if the arrows are lightning.
also the problem with chain mail is that it can't hold up against thin stabbing blades, or bullets it works best against slashing. they go through the armor…it may be fine enough to stop arrows, but idk about bullets and it's too malleable he'd still be hurt even if it didn't penetrate, that with his spider silk shirt won't help much. Yes it will stop the bullets from piercing the skin, but that much concentrated force can do magical things to someone's internal organs.
the anime clip that was showed actually worked against you in that that seemed very slow to me, slower than how I think Drizzt would be, should he get animated or a movie. Speed Braces? his feet were described as a blur when he was running from the frost giants.

I can show you an excerpt with drizzt cutting through a horde of demons in hell (well, Demondads in tartarus, but the principle stands) while carrying an unconscious woman

riddickhas fooled infrared before, just throwing hat out there

@jarlaxle
the first time was luck the second he had a group of friends

sorry for the double post, but i have to say this: midnite marauder, you have no idea what your talking about. Drizzt’s enemies aren’t cowards. Stop trash-talking. Be mature ok? There both legit fighters, but I know for a fact Drizzt would win, but by the skin of his teeth.

Drizzt isn’t a coward. His kills:
-many-armed-sword-wielding-demon
-ertu the DEMON! (TWICE)
-Artemis Enteri (he nearly killed him the first time, the second time Enteri won only cause Jarlaxle cheated.)
-countless trash (goblins, verbeeg, humans, giants, etc.)
-Numerous drow
-Tos’un Del Armargo
-Zaknafein (or however it’s spell. Sorry Drizzts dad! Also not really a kill, but Drizzt won.)
-a horde of orcs
-he only lost against Obould because the drow caster intervened with an earthquake, and also Obould had invincible armor. That’s unfair, and Drizzt would have won.)
-Dantrag Baenre, whose hands were like Drizzt’s on crack. Just read it.
-shadow monsters
-Wulfgar (again not a kill but he has shown he can beat up Wulfie and we all know it.)
-bassilisks

I would continue, but I don’t really want to make a five page essay on Drizzt’s kills.

YEAH, hardly cowards.

@ ss
Nice. Thanks for suggesting this one.
About guen:
I don’t really know what you are talking about. Maybe it’s just me and that I don’t remember. Can you post some examples of that? Like, page numbers and stuff?
Besides, that’s nitpicking anyway. Is Drizzt even allowed to summon guen? I said:
“Riddick’s animal affinity will count for nothing against guen, for the reasons AHEM, i believe, stated. Drizzt spent most of his life with guen. He’s so close to her, and he holds her figurine, which gives him absolute command.” because that was being argued about earlier. However I am under the opinion that Drizzt will win if he uses guen. Even if you think Drizzt is weaker than Riddick, you have to admit he has a decent chance. But with guen, TWO vs ONE, Drizzt definately takes victory, reguardless of whether he’s a less potent warrior.

I don’t know what you are talking about. No offense, but that sounds like b.s. You’re going to have to understand that I don’t really believe you without page numbers.

I think it unlikely that Guen will suddenly change sides to be with the guy who’s attacking her master, some guy she’s never seen before. In addition, the examples you gave me would have occured at the beginning of the series, years and years prior to the point where Drizzt is at his peak, at the end of ghost king. It’s therefore logical to conclude they have a closer relationship. The idea of guen suddenly changing sides like that is rather silly.

if drizzt can get close enough to do that then he would have the fight in the bag by killing him instead, also i never said that guen would switch sides, i was meerly pointing out his affinity if anything does change it will b that she sits it out

@Ace

umm guen Distinctively betrayed the prior owner of the figurine, its in either book one or two of the dark elf trilogy, when the owner sent guen to kill drizzt.

and if you go by this it shows that the owner of the onyx statue doesn’t have complete control.

And one more thing, why is it everyone seems to forget about, khazideaha, or cutter, the sword that can cut through anything, as with the crossbow cadderly gave him with the collapsable darts containing “oil of impact”.

My money is on Drizzt.

Cutter almost sheared through icingdeath once, leading drizzt to forgo any head on parries for the rest of his fight against that drow dude in the hunter’s blade trilogy (or was it the orc king? Memory fails me atm).

Riddick doesn’t actually DODGE the lazer bullets. I JUST watched the movie after pitch black. Mostly he would turn off the lights and sneak up and get so close the soldiers couldn’t use their guns effectively. He relies on trickery and manipulates the enviorment. Drizzt however trained his speed, agility, and reflexes for near to one hundred years and on top of that wears speed enhancing anklets. He has longer blades that are magical whereas Riddick has knives. Drizzt would also have better listening and stealth/hunting skills since he lived alone in the underdark for a long time, received drow stealth training and has been a woodsman for longer than Riddick has been alive. The only advantage Riddick has is his furian strength and stamina, but it counts for naught when his opponent has vastly more blade skill and has longer blades.

And Riddick won’t be able to pick up a gun any time soon. In the movie, he only time he got a gun was when he picked one up from a fallen necromonger. Drizzt certainly won’t be bringing any necromongers to the fight, so Riddick won’t be shooting any firearms.

Are We Talking Movie Or Game Here, that is necessary for this argument

what exactly does “canon” mean i don’t understand it

hmmmmm amyb i should have disarmed both of them to be more fair, o well to late now
@thailee
canon is hard to explain, sorry but i cant begun to at the moment
@aceof queens
its not his skill im refering ti im refering to his equipment