Suggested by Wild Girl
Here we have a classic battle of some old time favorites in Rambo, Terminator and Predator.
For this battle, it’s the T-800 series terminator being used.
While this seems like a fun match to watch, I think it would end with the Terminator winning unless Rambo and Predator paired up first and then went after each other.
What say you?
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August 19, 2010
#1
In order to keep it fair, let’s say rambo and the t800 teamed up. . .What is rambo armed with anyway?
August 19, 2010
#2
@Overlord
Dunno, I still don’t think that’d be the end of the fight.
Predator has that targetting business going on, so he pops off the ranged blade at Terminator’s head — he can begin targeting/shooting Rambo while the thing is still in bound, and I think Rambo is screwed no matter where the plasma hits, not even necessarily a headshot.
August 19, 2010
#3
CLEARLY Rambo is bringing his bow and arrow to the table nyuk nyuk nyuk
August 19, 2010
#4
Note that modern day weapons have been shown to be effective against predators, though many hits are needed. So if rambo got some good shots and the Terminator finished him off. . .
August 19, 2010
#5
I know (TX fired a type of plasma weapon) but it’s very slow moving.
August 19, 2010
#6
So if they teamed up, could they eliminate the pred? What if the pred and rambo teamed up? I mean, humans and yatuja have worked together before. . .”The enemy of my enemy is my friend”
August 19, 2010
#7
@Overlord
oh no question, I wasn’t saying death is impossible for Pred.
But for the previously mentioned reasoned (most notable being superior weaponry and lack of physical speed on Terminator’s part) Predator can get rid of the Robot pretty quickly, especially when firing from a cloaked position. While Rambo may or may not have an easier time dodging plasma blasts, he still doesn’t have the advanced aim of Predator, and Predator’s weapons will kill him much more quickly than the other way around.
Heck, Predator could maybe even merc the both of them from stealth, depending on the setting.
August 19, 2010
#8
Can the T800 use infrared to see the pred?
August 19, 2010
#9
@Overlord
I don’t think so, if Predator has the body-heat supressor that Marauder mentioned.
August 19, 2010
#10
Well remember the T-800 has superior vision than a human and could notice the imperfections in the preds stealth and pop him although if the pred teamed up with rambo and used rambo as fodder he could like eviscerate him while he’s fighting rambo.
August 19, 2010
#11
@Forest
There’s still going to be a moment (if in fact Terminator can see him) where Terminator has to target through the cloaking field which could be extremely difficult given the time of day and light present. Versus the Predator who’s going to be able to nuke easily from the get go, who also has an advance targeting item on his person.
As well — Predator can much more easily fire his weapons while on the move, as opposed to the more-often than not sluggish or stationary Terminator.
So, even without the cloak,in a shootout situation he still has his more advanced armor and maneuverability on his side, as well as his own auto-targeting business.
August 19, 2010
#12
But isn’t Arnold armed whith the laser rifle??? so it could do better than modern day weapons.
August 19, 2010
#13
@Forest
No clue check with Marauder on how well Pred’s armor stands up to lazers, but there still remains the problem with potential delay to accurate targeting due to cloak (IF he can see him in the first place, which isn’t guaranteed to begin with) as well as Predator being able to move around more easily than the Terminator, added to the fact that all of his weapons stomp the Robot’s defenses like nothing.
August 19, 2010
#14
Well moving around more won’t matter much unless their in a jungle or something.
August 19, 2010
#15
@Chuckforest
Sure it would, erratic movements fast enough can screw with aiming pretty well if not effective against the robot, it’s still a slight edge to Predator, not even necessarily to completely avoid a shot, but at least allow it to hit an armored part of his person.
So even if they both draw and fire, in the instant Terminator reconfigures his target, or that Predator moves to where the shot misses or is not lethal, Predator won’t be dead, and Terminator will be. Now, I know Terminator has pretty on point targeting methods no doubt, as does Predator. But, in a shootout scenario without a cloak, Predator has all of his listed advantages, one of them being mobility which Terminator does not posess.
It’s Predator’s game more often than not.
August 19, 2010
#16
true true but how many hits would it take from a laser to terminate the pred in his weak zones. And is this a newb pred or like jesus version that will make a big difference.
August 19, 2010
#17
in a stand up shootout no jungle jumping….the terminator shreds the predator. erractic movements and such dont impair a t800s accuracy neither does cover. the T-800 is likely faster on its feet. basically. in a shotout scenario the T800 aquires and puts rounds into the preds exposed flesh no matter what direction it jumps. but preds dont fight heads up.
August 19, 2010
#18
@Dark
Not necessarily, that’s taking away from the Predator’s aim as well, which also is on an auto-target system. And the same end applies, his weapons are going to shitkick Terminator’s defenses. For instance, how reliably can Terminator dodge the discs, and how many of these do Predator’s come equipped with?
Discs are just an example, it could be multiple shots of whatever other ranged wepaon he’s packing, since most of them will decimate the robot.
August 19, 2010
#19
my above post is about the t800s ballistic/and trajectory calculation. in addition to their ability to calculate and compensate for gravity. a terminators reflexes are thru the roof as seen in Terminator salvation. if they both stand 300 meters away from each other in a quick draw style battle my cash is on the t800.
of course it still loses this fight. overall.
August 19, 2010
#20
What fires faster robot or alien???
August 19, 2010
#21
My moneys on the robot firing first and hitting the pred in the arm then proceeding to shred him or the plasma caster then arm then shred.
August 19, 2010
#22
“Not necessarily, that’s taking away from the Predator’s aim as well, which also is on an auto-target system.”
the preds weapons arent quite auto aim, more like designate and fire, they can fire by sight or what they usually do is mark targets then leave the gun to fire. if you have a vid or a scan of a predator walking into an area of hoslitles then the plasma caster just unloading of its own accord feel free to show it.
“And the same end applies, his weapons are going to shitkick Terminator’s defenses. For instance, how reliably can Terminator dodge the discs, and how many of these do Predator’s come equipped with?”
i dont care since my post had nothing to do with a termiatanors ability to dodge any weapons, and more on the t800s superiority in split second target aquisition and firing.under the circumstances i stated(a quickdraw), the pred wouldnt do anything because hed have a gut full of plasma.
August 19, 2010
#23
“My moneys on the robot firing first and hitting the pred in the arm then proceeding to shred him or the plasma caster then arm then shred.”
why would a terminator shot the pred in the arm? think about how that sounds, before each evens draw their weapons the pred would be scanned and its unarmored gut would be targeted as a weak point, and and the t800 wouldve already sent its payload do range with near perfect accuracy. this can be done before the pred designates the t800 as a threat.
August 19, 2010
#24
@Dark
“under the circumstances i stated(a quickdraw)”
Oh okay, I wasn’t debating a Sergio Leone type business. I meant a battlefield, guns out thing, in which dodging would account for something.
“. if you have a vid or a scan of a predator walking into an area of hoslitles then the plasma caster just unloading of its own accord feel free to show it. ”
You misunderstood, no problem. I was assuming the gun TARGET something, like Matrix’s gun from ReBoot. I wasn’t proposing he carry an auto-turret on his shoulder that shoots for him. I don’t know enough about Predator to clarify or deny that.
But, if you’re under the impression Predator gets the FP award, that’s really the gist of any of my points since I can only comment on face value.
August 19, 2010
#25
I can still see a possibility for the terminator to win but it is very slim. . .
August 19, 2010
#26
How? How can the Terminator win.
August 19, 2010
#27
@Sparks-The thing does all the aiming for him he just pulls the “trigger” so to speak. His Plasma Caster is controlled by an on-board computer system of some sort which connects all his equipment together. If you guys haven’t noticed the wrist console, helmet, cloaking, and weapon systems are all shoehorned into a single system.
August 19, 2010
#28
@Marauder
That’s what I said, it’s an auto-target. So it can pick out a target without Predator necessarily having to ‘will’ it or what?
August 19, 2010
#29
Its tied into its thought along with the Smart Disc but the Predator has to see it first. The Predator sees it and wants to shoot it the software locks on and keeps track of it and all the Predator has to do is pull the “trigger”.
August 19, 2010
#30
Gotcha, so it is like Enzo’s gun then. That’s what I was thinking.
As to his physical movement, how is it? I know they’re large and strong, but how agile/fast are Predators — I don’t mean their running speed either necessairly, i mean do they have any instances of swift pivots/dodges/etc?
August 19, 2010
#31
@Sparks-They are agile in the extreme. They bound through tree tops like monkeys, fight man to man against xenos(who can dodge bullets sometimes see Aliens: Resurrection), and are known aim dodgers.
August 19, 2010
#32
Alright, well kosher. Thanks for the tidbits. In any case, i’ll just stick with the consensus of Predators for FP award for higher(est) chance of winning here then.
August 20, 2010
#33
Yeah. Predator all the way.
August 25, 2010
#34
@darkblade ???? maybe he had a gun and i guess it matters if its a newblood or Mr. idodgebullets.
September 1, 2010
#35
Predatorfor the F.P. Award.