I don’t know much about either of them. However, I find it cool how they look somewhat similar.

“I’d say the wraith solely because necrodermis is DAMN hard to break.”

Not only that, but they also have that pesky self repair ability. In addition, while the ing warrior travels between dimensions, wraiths are in a constant state of dimensional flux, making them an enormous pain to hit. Not to mention the fact that without his armor, a space marine has NO chance whatsoever against these guys. They’re stronger than a daemon prince, as strong as an avatar or Greater Daemon, and as fast as a jetbike with the ability to phase though walls. These things are INSANE.

*The fact that the Ing Warrior becomes totally crappy when it sees any light at all*

simple normal light doesnt harm a ing.planet aether had some sort of magical force which whas called the light of aether and that is what causes major harm to the ing.

anyway this is going to be a weird match.but i think the ing has a dis-advantage that it cannot use its possession ability since the C-tan will simply kick him out.that or both parties die.then theres always going to be the argument when A attacks B will shift to its intangible state.

I see to intangible creatures clawing at each other for a bit. Apart from that, I can’t really think of a victor with my knowledge on theese two.

@OriginalA
But didnt the warior ing try to posess samus when they tackled her?
And isnt the beam attack they used an antimater beam of some sort?

They stole items from her. It isn’t stated, as far as I recall (it has been a while since I’ve played MP2:E), that they tried to posses her. Also possession are done while the Ing are in the Darkling swarm “gaseous” from. The ones that ganked up on her were all in solid (banner pictured) form

Their ranged attack is a transdimensions beam. Not much else is known about it other than it takes close to a second to charge up time but with a fairly decent travel time and some Ing Warriors (Jump Gardian if I recall correctly) could fire off multiple beams in quicker succession than regular Warriors as a side effect of absorbing the Jump Boots..

Also their claws are razor sharp. … typical Metroid non-quantifiable value.

After a quick review of a MP2:E playthrough that is up on Youtube, and looking up the short cutscenes when the Warrior, Jump, and Boost Ing first appear, there doesn’t seem to be any major evidence to support that Warrior Ing can form into the gaseous swarm clouds that are seen possessing other creatures throughout the game. I would reckon that the clouds of Ing things that possess people are a seperate creature called Darklings and that Hunters are fairly unique in their ability to also possess creatures.

“I’m not sure if an Ing Warrior can possess a target. Almost all possessed targets are refered to being possessed by Darklings. The few that are not refered to being possessed by Darklings are either non-descript or specifically said to be possessed by Ing Hunters. I cannot recall a single instance of an Ing Warrior, and specifically the Warrior type, possessing any target. So the gaseous form that Kenny is talking about might actually be a swarm of creatures called Darklings rather than an alternative form of an Ing Warrior.”

You are mistaken. In Metroid Prime 2: Echos, ‘Darkling’ isn’t a type of Ing, it’s what any possessed creature or machine is called. Dark Metroids and Dark Pirate Commando are both types of Darklings. Ontop of that, Ing Warriors represent the main military caste of the Ing Horde, Hunter Ing being the elite fighters and the Ing Warriors being the main force. It’s reasonable to assume that the majority of the Darklings are actually Ing Warriors, since we see Ing Warriors transform into the gasseous state multiple times, for example when they transform to steal Samus’ technology. It’s the same gaseous form we see appearing out of portals to possess creatures and machines…

So I believe the Ing to be capable of easily taking this match and turning into one of the most vicious darklings ever, a Dark Wraith.

The possessed Space Pirates which are fully sentient, occasionally possessed Luminoth, possessed Quadraxis http://www.factpile.com/master-chief-vs-quadraxis.htm , Metroids and any number of indigenous Aether species. But at any rate, possession only took a matter of seconds for sentient, soulless machines or anything in between.

Addendum:
There are a few other pure Ing creatures that are refered to as Darklings too.
The Darkling Tentacle, for example, is stated to be an Ing that can open dimensional rifts to ensnare prey.

There is the Nightbarb, which I highly doubt is a possessed form of the other Nightbarb in the Metroid series (for those unaware, there is another creature that acts differant and looks substanctially differant and is on a completely differant planet that shares the same name). The Nightbarb, of the Ing kind, are even stated to be hunted by the Ing Hunters even though that they themselves are Ing. So here we have a Darkling creature being hunted by Hunters yet the Hunters don’t attack Warriors, or any other Darkling, or any other Ing for that matter.

The Dark Space Pirate Trooper, or Dark Trooper as they are called, are even said to be, and I quote, “Darkling possessed” … Not Ing possessed, as in possessed by the Ing, but Darkling possessed, as in possessed by Darklings. Additionally the Bloggs are specifically stated to be controled by Darklings. Again Darklings are refered to as a creature, not a state of being.

On the other hand there is the Spider and Power Bomb Guardians. Both are called Darklings, both have some of Samus’s missing weapons (although Samus wasn’t even carrining any Power Bombs at the time… or the Spider Ball… ), and both are not in the Warrior form. That said, neither of them are seen to be the same swarm that possess all of the enemies either. This could just be the Warriors that stole Samus’s tech and assuming a new form because of that absorbtion, or they could be entirely differant Ing entities and received the weapons by trading. The game doesn’t specifically stated that the Power and Spider Guardians are the exact same Ing Warriors that we previously saw; only that these creatures have absorbed those items. Since the Ing have a large amount of cooperation and orginisational skills, I wouldn’t put it past them for the Warriors that stole the tech to have given it to other Ings and then those Ings then absorb the tech and turn into the Gaurdians that we see later in the game. Again the game makes no specification that the Gaurdians that have absorbed the weapons are the exact Ing Warriors that stole them.

Quote from the metroid wiki about warrior ing
“They can change into their gaseous form at will, in order to possess things.”
at http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Warrior_Ing
I’m not sure who wins but I’m pulling for the ing because necrons, while still awesome, are way too over powered and sometimes it’s just rediculous how powerful they are.

“For this match, I don’t know whether any C’tan involvement could be allowed, as it would be outside help no?”
- Yes, no C’tan allowed.

That was ment to be *spent hours today* not hour today.

I really need to start prrof reading.

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News to me. I’m not sure I’ve ever encountered that attack. You’re sure it said possession or fusion or something like that and it was from a Warrior? If so I’ll concede that the Warriors can potentially possess targets, but I remain firm that they are not the Darkling swarms seen possessing most enemies through out the game.

Honestly though, ever since I’ve claimed that Warriors cannot possess a target I’ve had the nagging feeling that I’ve encountered what you just described but I’m not sure if it was that or being hit by an Entrangler or if I just imagnied it as I only recall encountering it once in over 5 playthroughs.

They still aren’t Darklings though damnit.

Woah, woah.. No C’tan? Sure, as in they don’t manifest themselves out of the blue and proceed to beat the living crap out of everyone. But you can’t take off the protection they bestow upon their servants. That’s like saying that Kharn gets no Blessing from his patron god.

All machines bow to the will of the C’tan and unless you’re saying that the Ing Warrior is able to not only go toe to toe with the Void Dragon but also beat him and surpass the protection he has bestowed upon his undying legions, then I don’t see how the Warrior is able to possess the Wraith.

i dont know of any blessing, but a wraith like all necrons in a metal shell a necrontyr, placed his soul in in order to gain immortality, but was tricked and became a slave, so in a sense a necron is already possesed, by the soul of a necrontyr.

i personally think they where tricked, but like you say at the moment its all speculation, however tricked are not a necron is still possesed, by the soul of a necrontyr and probably be unsuitable for infection or possesion.

@ Sinzero

The reason no “warp critters” have been able to possess/corrupt Necrons is that even before their transition to their necrodermis, they were entirely cut off from warp-based powers or even warp- “signatures” as it were. Then, after the transition, they were completely souless and encased in tech., which seems almost anti-warp in nature.

That being said, Ing possess their targets through a process I’m sure is completely different from typical warp possessions. And I hardly doubt that the C’tans’ control is little more than a machine telling a slaved machine what to do. Even then, Ing have possessed several machines that could have been entirely dependent on another controlling system. Not saying your wrong, just that unfounded speculation cuts both ways.

all machines possessed by the ing where beings with advanced lumintoth tech A.I. so basicly sinzero’s point stands.

when it comes down to possessing organic targets it is made clear in scans that the ing uses the nervous system.it is also speculated that if the host has a failing critical organ (the heart) th ing will die aswell.this is confirmed by scanning the luminoth corpse just before the battle against boost guardian i believe…however this is contradictive since ing are able to reanimate and use death corpses as a host(dark troopers).

its possible that the “soul” might be taken over aswell as the host becomes completely under control of the ing.but the term and definition “soul” is always tricky to discuss when it comes down to metroids spirtual plane and then start comparing it with the likes of 40k.

warrior ing can posses. actully 1 tried to do it to me 2 hours ago while i whas playing.lucky for me samus her suit is too advanced for them to go trough.

ing can posses both organic and machines however which ing gets what depends on the ing’s social status. lets just take space pirates as a example.the ing are intrested in space pirates as soon as they arrive.though i cant specificly say that warrior ing are possessing the standard space pirate troops it is proven that space pirate commandos and other elite troops are only contested by hunter ing to posses.

but i guess that last little fact has no influence on this battle.

Well I for one remember getting tackled by a Warrior Ing and getting the message: “Possession Attempt Failed” plastered all over the visor. It only happens early in the game, though. Once they realize that they can’t, they seem to just stop. And even if they try, the message stops appearing.

For the Darkling argument, the logbook stores all the Dark Creatures under “Darklings” with non-possesed versions under “light creatures.” For my own take, I think darkling refers to both the possessed and the one doing the possessing. But it doesn’t really matter since we know that Warriors can possess things.

Anyway, every machine the Ing have possessed had some sort of Artificial Intelligence. Which is odd because Ing are said to perform spiritual possession. Then again, it was also stated that they had to learn how to possess machines. Though there is one thing they could be said to have possessed that was “unconventional” and that’s Samus’ upgrades. You could say that they stole them or you could say they possessed the upgrades, but what resulted was those non-weapon upgrades being used in an offense manner. The Jump and Boost Guardians are the only confirmed Warrior Ing, but it’s possible all of them are Warriors because only Warriors stole them.

Anyway, Samus’ upgrades are confirmed to be data or energy. Matter turned to energy turned to data. The Ing were able to change it back and add some of their own flavor. The Jump Gaurdian took an upgrade for a double jump and turned it into a forcefielded, shockwave generating super jump, for example. It’s an interesting ability. I can only imagine what would happen if an Ing a piece of Necron tech.

I don’t know whether the Ing could possess the Wraith, but it does have a ranged weapon while the Wraith doesn’t. They use “transdimentional energy” in this attack (they even open a portal to fire it), so it would probably hit a phased out opponent. The Wraith can fly while the Ing can’t, so that’s a plus for it. Ing are really durable, though. It can take a ton of Missiles, which I want to say are like Bolter rounds. And it the afforementioned ramming attack, stated to be “sheathed in dark energy” which can possess a target or completely cover it (It looks like it wraps its body around the target).

You know a force is dangerous when this is one of their basic troops.

How many wounds does the Wraith have? Ing can still take a LOT of punishment without a light based weapon. Probably more if you’re attempting to go into melee with a puddle. That liquid form might just cause some problems, as well as the gaseous possession form.

“If that blast strikes the Necron while phased out, I think it would be a solid hit doing serious damage to the Necron.”

Regardless of their phasing status, wraith’s are just as tenacious as necron warriors. FYI, necrons are even harder to kill than space marines due to their self repair system.

“That liquid form might just cause some problems, as well as the gaseous possession form.”

BUT, the ing warrior would have to return to it’s solid state in order to attack, in which case the wraith would tear it to pieces.

Do they realy do alot of damage with that?
I dont exactly remember.

So, the ing have atacks that can hit the wraith and it can escape via puddle, where does that leave us?

“Well, is the Ing stong enough to actually deal damage if it gets past the pase out ability?”
The ing have a beam that fires transdimenseonal energy,it should be able to hit the wraith.

“Wraiths are made of Necrodermis, they’re far tougher than Marines. Couple it with regen and they are very hard to put down.”
How do metriod(terrawatt) weapons stack up against the handheld 40k weapons, I assume metriod is more powerful, as I’ve yet to see someone with a more powerful handgun.

“Energy doesn’t enlighten me at all. I’d rather have a feat to see just what they can do. ”

Well, again, their basic attack is to rip open dimensions and shoot things with them. They warp space just to attack. Other than that, they’ve show no feats other than dealing more damage than Dark Samus. Though that in itself is fairly impresssive. Dark Samus uses phazon, which can cause “Total Atomic Disruption” according to scans. Warrior Ing cause more damage than that.

“Plus, do the Wraiths really Phase to another dimension?”

The wiki says that they phase in and out of existence. But what Ing use is transdimensional energy, meaning “between (/beyond) dimensions.” The attack bends space while firing a beam that moves beyond dimensions, so I’m still pretty sure it would hit. It would simply rend the space where the Wraith is.

tabletop rules are diffecult to apply here simply because metroid does not have any tabletop game.

if we use the rules for the DOW games for windows we get a more clearer view.it is true that the melee power of the wraith is sick and yes he can phase out of the current dimension but when the wraith does so he cannot attack his opponent anymore.the few questions the need to be answered to clear this up are these:

-if the wraith phase out will the ing dimensional attack still hit him?
-how is Necrodermis compared with samus her shielding (sow we can calculate the damage the wraith gets from an attack)?
-how much damage will the wraith (who does not posses the light of aether) do against the ing?
-is it possible for the ing to possess the wraith?

if the above is solved we are 1 step closer to determine a victor.

“-how much damage will the wraith (who does not posses the light of aether) do against the ing?”

How do they fare against getting sliced up? The Wraith’s blades (on both hands and at the tip of the tail) are capable of slicing through a Space Marine’s power armour without breaking a sweat, as shown in the Necron codex. And that thing’s tough.

Alright good points. However, wraiths (as with any Necron unit), never truly die. If they are wounded to the point of being unoperational and not able to put themselves back together, they phase out (teleport) to the nearest tomb world or tomb spyder. They then get fixed back to perfection. Then they deep strike themselves through the nearest monolith and are back in the fight.

I realize that there are no monoliths discussed here, but it is assumed that they could also be warped back into the fight just by phasing in from their tombs.

“How do they fare against getting sliced up? The Wraith’s blades (on both hands and at the tip of the tail) are capable of slicing through a Space Marine’s power armour without breaking a sweat, as shown in the Necron codex. And that thing’s tough.”

No Ing has ever been hit with a melee weapon. Well, actually, maybe the Space Pirates tried to “slice them up” with their Photonic Power Scythes, but that never ended well for them. Entire squads of Commandos (the ones dedicated to killing Samus; they are some of the most experienced, well trained, and well armed and amored Pirates out there) were totally slaughtered by the Ing. Either that or possessed, but the slaughtering was seemingly more common. But I digress. Warrior Ing can switch between solid, liquid, and gaseous forms at will, so melee would be pretty much useless. They can’t attack in liquid form, but the gas one is “sheathed in dark energy” which can either deal damage or possess a target. The Wraith would basically be trying to fight a cloud of acid.

There is a reason the Ing defeated an enlightened race very similar to the Eldar before the Fall.

“The one problem is that wraiths cannot use anything but melee weapons. I believe now that no matter how many times it gets repaired, the ing will just knock it over again. I believe that this may be a losing battle, therefore I resign until I find better info in my favor. *sigh*”

Outside help is not allowed, monoliths and tomb spyders are not allowed to, repair a necron, just like how the warrior cant call up a bunch of non-violent ing classes to help it, the wraith gets smashed, and the battle ends, the Ing win.

Scenario said:
“[the Ing Warrior] can’t attack in liquid form”

Possibly not quite true since they can hurt Samus even then. On the other hand I don’t think they can hurt her on touch while in their solid form unless they are diliberately attacking. The Liquid state should not be considered harmless nor defenseless.

how fast can the necron wraith move? Ing warriors are really predictable in how they attack.

Also, the ings were always more than eager to posses Pirates due to pirates weaponry being superior to the Ing’s own, so keep that in mind. The Ing felt that the pirates were more powerful than they were, otherwise why take a downgrade in power? So I have serious doubts as to the actual effectiveness of Ing attacks. Necron armor could survive any melee attacks with almost no permanent damage due to their regen and durability, and the Ing’s beam attacks are apparently worse than basic Pirate troopers. In addition, I believe the Ing actually have to spend a second to charge the beam (or focus it) leaving them open to attack.

Do these necrons have any ranged weapons available to them? And if so how effective would they be against the versatile ing warrior?

The Ing sought out the Space Pirates because the Space Pirates were:
A) fairly powerful
B) easily available (the SPs were both numerous and invading the Dark World
but most importantly
C) able to survive in the Light World
That last point was the last major hicup for the Ing. Aether’s atmosphere is toxic to them just like Dark Aether’s atmospher is toxic to Light creaturs. A downgrade is firepower is more than worth it if it allows you to survive in a hazardous environment that would normally kill you with extended exposure.

Plus, a Dark Trooper’s firepower is doubled during possession, going from 4 per shot to 8 per shot. The Ing have massive damage, but are kinda slow firing. They do have to take a moment to tear a hole in space before that beam fires. A Warrior’s attack can deal up to 30 damage. There’s no question about Ing Warriors being stronger than Pirates. But the Pirates make up in rate of fire. They can fire maybe 5 shots/second. Since a Trooper deals four damage, assuming all shots hit, they can deal 20 damage in one second. The Ing is still better. But then, a Dark Trooper could deal 40 damage in the same second. Net effect of possession is damage higher than either the Trooper or the Warrior separately. However, the Dark Trooper would be less durable than the Warrior but more durable than the Trooper.

At least I think that’s how that works. Pirates are just the best possession targets because of the rapid fire. And, y’know, the not dying horribly in Aether’s atmosphere. Ing need a host to survive. The increased damage is just a plus.

*At least I think that’s how that works*

yup youre right thats how it works.but not only is firepower increased but toughness aswell.and depending on what ing takes you over the host gets some of the ings abilities aswell.elite pirate commandes where taken over by hunter ing.hunter ing can shift out of the local dimension/time the same way a wraith does.when a hunter ing possessed a pirate commando the pirate could shift between dimensions/time aswell.

in all honesty if the ing succeeded in destroying the light of aether took over the entire planet and then proceeded to look up in the sky towards the stars and seek other wars to wage….then even phazon and the X would have been childsplay compared with that.

the repair function of the necrons is a skill that makes the necron fearsome indeed.but for the sake of this battle lets just say that if the necron lies completely wrecked on the ground its end of the match.else we can go on 4ever.

*But making it lying wrecked is the one prob. They are tougher than space marines and they constantly regenerate. They keep up until they are damaged beyond their regen capapability, but getting it to that point is NOT easy.*

it wont be a easy battle indeed.but not impossible.to create a little idea of the damage these 2 can do too eachother ive been researching the samus vs space marine thread.it was concluded in that thread that a single average space marine is going to have lots of trouble even denting samus (though no doubt a SM could inflict damage on her shield but not much) i basicly used the following logic and i wish others to review this first before we apply it:

1.a space marine faces a great deal of problems against samus her defensive power and 1 space marine even lacks ammo to take down a fully powered samus.
2.the same average space marine however has been shown to take down necrons (talking about the average necron soldier now no special units).
3.ing on the other hand can inflict a great deal of damage against samus in a single blow (30 units of damage is slighty less then 1/3 of a energy tank which is alot in metroid).
4.a fully powered samus with hypermode would rip average SMs apart but necron wraiths rip SMs apart too but with melee power.

the problem the wraith faces is his forced melee.touching a ing alone already will start damaging his claws and thats considering he can hit the ing.even if he hits the ing the necrons attack is not “light-based” and we don’t even know if melee attacks are effective at all.ing have shown only to be harmed by weaponized energy and or the light of aether.but for the sake of argument lets say melee does effect the ing.

the ing can open dimensions at will.they use this to travel to light aether in gasous form to possess a target or open dimensions and produce a potent dimensional energy blast.the energy blast however isn’t too impresive damage wise but im speculating on how it would mess with the wraiths power of shifting dimensions.

ing are tough.with no light based weaponry its a hell too drop them.however the toughness award still goes to the wraith in my opinion.

i just think that the forced melee position is the doom of the wraith.while trying to get close the ing fires the dimensional beams hitting or not hitting (this is still in debate) and when the wraith gets close the ing shapeshifts to another safe position to fire a volley of energy.if the ing is forced into melee aswell the wraith will damage himself touching the ing and ofcourse the dark claws of the ing who are capeble of inflicting serieus damage to even samus.

but the above is alot of if’s and some things still need to be properly debated.

Ah, but theres more to it than that too Orber.

I won’t debate on the Samus vs SM thing, but there are differences. Whereas Samus has a shield and a special suit to deal with a SM’s bolter fire, a Wraith does not. It’s simply a block of hard metal. This means that the defensive power of these two targets is most likely very different, and are effective at blocking different things. Meaning that something that kills one of them might barely touch the other.

So, a dimension beam/bomb/projectile is going to deal a very different type of damage compared to a fully automatic RPG. And while the dimesnion beam might seriously damage Samus’ shields and delicate tech, the living metal that is a Wraith and constantly phases in and out might react different.

As such, the Samus comparison is difficult to apply to this fight as the means of damaging is so vastly different. I do for example believe that the insanely hard and sharp Wraith claws is better at slicing up SMs hard, compact than the dimension projectile, which sounds like it will rather just deal heavy damage rather than outright kill. Hard to tell, but something to consider.

That, and the jetbike speed of Wraiths. They’re fast.

Chaos needs no warp presence to warp stuff. There is a reason Daemon Worlds exist, and daemonically possessed vehicles is a common sight in the armies of Chaos. They corrupt weapons, vehicles, minds, plants, planets and vast areas of space, so in theory a Necron is no problem. Yet no Necron has ever been confirmed warped. They sound possession proof to a large degree.

As for battlefield, let’s say a neutral, where both necron and ing having an internal supply of light/darkness or whatever, allowing them to live just fine. If we do it otherwise one of them will get a major home field advantage. So, no corrosion of the Wraith and no raping of the ing.

Actually Skrunks daemons can possess machines as shown by the defiler and chaos titans.

still fail to see how the ing cant poses something that is only a metal body, when the ing has posesed both real bodies, machines, and dead bodies. What stops it?

“2) created by all-powerful gods that created failsafes against things like being possessed by chaos demons, but the ing warrior is something different altogether.”

This right here. I have reason to doubt it. According to the Lexicanum, it was not the C’tan that created the Necrodermis Living Metal, but the original Necrontyr. They created the bodies that the C’tan now inhabit. The Necrontyr had made the living metal for their ships to protect them before ever meeting the C’tan. I mean, it makes sense, doesn’t it? The Nightbringer was feeding on a star, so they couldn’t possibly have found him before they had ships which, apparenty, were made of living metal. Unless I missed something, the living metal is not divine in any way.

“I am not sure if the failsafes would be 100% effective against an Ing Warrior because I still don’t know the methods of their possessions.”

Ing are said to perform “symbiotic possession/parasitic fusion.” But then, the Ing learned that they could possess machines. Note that they learned, and were not always able to do it. Luminoth robots like the Ingsmasher were very effective up until that point.

“The Luminoth – Ing War is likely one of the most epic wars never seen in the Metroid U. Right up there with the Alimbic Extermination and most anything involiving the Krikens. Yet we the players never get to see them.”

Yes, but I quite enjoy the lore.

http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Luminoth_Lore

I especially like the Keybearers. Those were some of the most badass Luminoth to exist. All the “subject did not go quietly” scans were pretty awesome.

“Let this be the final testament of warrior C-Rch. I have no more shells for my weapons. For the enemy, I have naught but the blade and fist. Let them come. They wait in the works, hissing and slithering like beasts. Let them. When my war cry comes, there will be a dread, final reckoning. Come forth, hated enemy. Let there be an end! ”

That fact that the Ing beat these guys just adds to their awe factor.

“And yet Chaos has never, in the 60 million year history of the Necrons, been shown to have corrupted a single warrior. That gotta count for something.”

Only if Chaos works in the same manner as Ing possession. If it doesn’t then it means jack squat. And that is not a subject I’m going to approach right now. I’ve already grandly embarassed myself on the subject of the Ing and their possession abilities in this match and I’m not eager to do so again any time soon. Maybe Scenario can shed more light [pun not intended] on the subject.

I really should just stick to Space Pirates. I know them. The Ing…. no so much, aside that they fought a bad ass war of bad assness against bad asses.

“I’ve already grandly embarassed myself on the subject of the Ing and their possession abilities in this match and I’m not eager to do so again any time soon.”

Oh come now. It’s not your fault the wording of the possession is inconsistent. I’ve been looking over everything you mentioned, and there is substantial evidence for both sides of the Darkling point. I have noticed a general trend, though. Normal creatures that get possessed are said to “darkling possessed” whereas the Item Guardians are referred to as “darkling [species name].” The Grapple Guardian being a Darkling Grenchler, for example, and the Bomb Guardian being a Darkling Sandigger. But then, the Dark Pirate Trooper entry quite clearly states that “Darklings moved to take every Trooper they could.” The Dark Quad says that the dominant darkling resides in the head module while a subservient one controls the main body.

On the other side, Luminoth Lore outright states that only things that are possessed are referred to as Darklings. Samus’s logbook also stores all possessed creatures under the umbrella term of Darklings. Going back to the Item Guardians, those are pretty much confirmed to be Warriors (assuming that they didn’t pass them on, of course), but they are still called darklings.

My conclusion was this: Any Ing with the possession ability becomes a darkling when it’s possessing something. Basically, you have a Warrior Ing. That Warrior Ing possesses something. Both the Ing and victim are now darklings. Darkling Tentacles may or may not be Hunter Ing messing around with space, but they certainly threw a couple wrenches into everything. Nightbarbs, too. The wiki’s theory was that the Ing possessed them first and, being new at it, warped their shapes and caused the rest of the population to go extinct. That one works with the Ing=Phazon theory, too. (Which consists of the Phaz-Ing being identical to the Inglet and the Leviathan creating Dark Aether and, by extension, the Ing.)

While My vote lies in the Necrons why are they named Ing I mean come on they are made for killING possessING rapING.

ah thanks that makes it better.