Easily Galactus and Silver Surfer… Silver surfer would take sauron out in a matter of seconds. galactus has more power than morgorth

A being capable of becoming a god at full power and a deity-like figure that represents a facet of reality and thus cannot be truly killed versus two guys with some magic tricks. Uh-huh. This would be over in seconds.

Can Galactus actually be permanently destroyed?
If so, Morgoth and Sauron would eventually be the last two, and would return at the end of time even if they were sent to the void. So Morgoth and Sauron could eventually dominate in a long drawn out match for absolute power.

“We can’t know about energy draining seeing as they live in such different realities.”

Galactus feeds on energy in all of its myraid forms,he says so himself

Actually you’ve gotten it wrong, the death of Galactus wouldn’t cause the end of time itself, merely allow for the imprisoned Abraxas to escape and gradually consume the multiverse.

It’s an issue of causality here.

ancient or not,galactus can absorb magic too,he wasonce feed from energy from thors hammer.
i would also like to note that VERY few things are more ancient than galactus,and that marvel is a mixing pot of magic,psionic,technology,and cosmic power,in one multi verse

It doesn’t matter how you spin it, Galactus is in a slightly higher class than Morgoth (His real competition in this match-up). He’s too important to the universe .
“Actually you’ve gotten it wrong, the death of Galactus wouldn’t cause the end of time itself”
In actuality, it would, but very very slowly. The way nature/science works in the Marvel Universe is different from the way it works in our own. Without Galactus devouring planets, the population of the universe would skyrocket until there was more life than resources.
BTW Has anyone read my fanfic?

In terms of the gae of the universe, Morgoth/Sauron and Galcatus are as ancient as each other, as they are all beings from/before the dawn of the universe (although Tolkein’s world had only one universe in comparison to the multiverse).

Energy devouring depends on if you look at the spirits of Tolkein’s world as energy or some impossible heavenly presence.

“IT seems like a great match up but Galactus eats worlds well as morgoth is still trying to conquer his first world.”
You have to remember the universe from which Morgoth comes, there was really only one world, Arda, with several planes and areas, which were home to all the existing beings, creatures, spirits and gods, yet Morgoth still managed to bring the world to darkness, and his essence is said to live on through the evil in the world, despite being imprisoned in the void.

Had Morgoth been conceived in to a reality similar to the marvel multiverse, he would also be on a planet destroying scale, although his role would most likely be to ‘corrupt’ planets into darkness.

“Wrong again.”
RTFC Galactus is put on trial, Reed Richards states everything i said.

Galactus could take this by himself. They all have to be on the same planet, so Galactus would eat them along with the planet.

“Galactus could take this by himself. They all have to be on the same planet, so Galactus would eat them along with the planet.”

What if Morgoth is outside the planet and has the form like Galactus and Sauron with the form like Silver Surfer?

Ok ok……So if you prefer for the 2 to be eaten by Galactus, then Morgoth & Sauron could tear the inside fabric of Galactus

Not knowing too much about Galactus, do the different energies he devours have different effects on him, or do they all simply serve to satisfy his hunger?
And ‘eating’ Morgoth and Sauron’s bodies would not be enough to finish them off, considering their spirits are immortal and can only be banished.

Currently Galactus requires planets with a Sentient population to satisfy his hunger.

You mean the Silver Surfer who would *die* upon contact upon with a wall? That game did nothing to correctly depict abilities of the Power Cosmic, such as the ability to pass through solid matter!

What were they thinking?! The Silver surfer can take a punch to the face from the Incredible Hulk and return to normal seconds later, yet striking a wall at a speeds equatable to an Elderly shuffle is enough to fatally wound him?

Morgoth and Sauron.

These are not people with a few magic tricks. Morgoth is a god, second in power only to the creator of the world of Arda. Creation of the raw construction blocks of life takes more power than simple destruction or absorption. Even the power cosmic, from what i’ve seen, has to alter already existing atoms into something else rather than just forming it out of nothingness. Morgoth created the evil creatures of the world, dragons, trolls, balrogs, without any previous creatures to malform.

Morgoth does have the potential to destroy the world of Arda… but why would he. If it was destroyed he wouldn’t be able to rule it.

Sauron versus Surfer is closer, but still the power of the ring, allied to Saurons already massive strength and power (In a set of official game rules where strength is measured from 1 – 100, sauron had 140. The Creator of Arda, whose name escapes me, had 185.) does make a huge difference.

Give the magic users some credit, they are a god and a warrior of dr strange-like magic prowess and huge might to boot.

Eru, that was the name I was looking for!

And I was mistaken, i thought he and the balcsmith god created their own creatures. Morgoth with his monsters, and the Blacksmith God (Curse my fallible name-memory) with his creation of the dwarves/dwarfs…

Ah well, we live and learn.

Even so, I’m still rooting for Morgoth and Sauron on this.

Glaurung(Father of all Dragons), Ungoliant(Ancestor of Shelob) were Maiars too……

“Glaurung(Father of all Dragons), Ungoliant(Ancestor of Shelob) were Maiars too……”
There’s no proof that Glaurung was maia. Morgoth could have bred him in Angband from whatever unknown creatures.
And I know about Ungoliant

He had 485?! So he’s almost 3 times as strong as Eru??

“He had 485?! So he’s almost 3 times as strong as Eru??”

Not as strong as Illuvatar

Again and again its Illuvatar not Eru!

Only Tulkas can outmatch Morgoth in terms of strength

I don’t know why Sauron and The Silver Surfer were included here, their power pales in comparison to the other two. With this scenario you run into the same problem as several other matches: One Godlike indestructible entity vs another Godlike indestructible entity.

Galactus may or may not be able to devour Galactus, and Morgoth may or may not be able to corrupt Galactus.
Now That would be an interesting outcome. Galactus isn’t truly evil, he is just carrying out his duty to protect the universe, so what if Morgoth pulled him into darkness, a task that would, essentially, have Galactus bent to Morgoth’s will.

i will go for galactus and the surfer galactus is so powerfull even without the surfer he can destroy a planet

you lot BLOODY MAD BUT I LIKE IT MORGOTH AND GALACTUS COME FROM BEFORE THE BEGINING OF THE UNIVERSE BUT I FAIL TO SEE WHAT THE FUCK AM I DOING

“Morgoth and Sauron are god-like beings. Morgoth is a Valar, and Sauron is a Maia. However, Sauron has achieved a level of strength equal to or surpassing a Valar. He can even create life, something I believe even Morgoth has trouble with.”

Neither Sauron or Morgoth or any other LotR diety can create life other then Eru. The Urukai, Orcs and Trolls aren’t truly alive, they are mere mockeries of life.

Galactus on the other hand, is fully capable of creating life.

What powers does Sauron show in combat? In the Silmarillion (hoped i spelled that right) Sauron has shown the ability to shape shift into a Vampire/Werewolf/ Humaniod form. But besides this (and his incredible strength/intellegence), what else does the Dark Lord have up his sleves?

For Morgoth, combat is not the greatest of his talents (compared to his abilities to corrupt, command, and create mockeries of life). A good example of this (and if some people disagree I understand) is his duel with Fingolfin (an elf King)

“When Fingolfin, the High-king of the Noldor, learned of the defeats and heavy casualties of the Noldor, in despair and anger, he rode alone upon his war-horse, Rochallor, across Anfauglith to challenge Morgoth to single combat. The Orcs fled at the rumour of his approach. When Fingolfin arrived at gate of the fortress of Angband, his challenge to Morgoth was accepted. They fought a great duel in which Fingolfin wounded Morgoth seven times with his sword Ringil. Yet, he was felled by Morgoth’s mace, Grond, and crushed beneath Morgoth’s foot. Fingolfin’s body was borne away by Thorondor, King of Eagles. Morgoth was permanently scarred by these wounds and from then on walked with a limp. Many accounts hold he never left his fortress again during the wars.”
- wikipedia: Silmarillion

Not to say at all Morgoth is not powerful, but he was permantely scared by an elf warrior who had no superpowers. Of course, SS and Galactus have a long list of powers, such as matter malipulation, FTL speed, and etc…. I just don’t see how Team Evil here could pull of a win. If someone knows how, please tell.

- pondering fool

Wow, grammar fail.

@marche
Hey, if doom could steal the board, and hes only human, hy can’ the lord of all evil? And who said anything about fighting? the surfers weak without the board.

No,in a non-canon movie the F4 knocked him off his board,which(contrary to popular belief) does not take away his power,because the power cosmic DOES NOT come from his board.

Morgoth’s power shaped existence. Sure Galactus eat’s planets, but he didnt cause the big bang to occur, far from it. Morgoth shaped the laws and rules to reality with Eâ (God).

Morgoth and Sauron would win on infinity clause. If Galactus were to try anything against Morgoth or even Sauron his mind (while near infinite) would be destroyed instantaneously. He would become a puppet of either of them.

Morgoth did get harmed by Fingolfin, but that only goes to show how insanely strong Fingolfin is. Their fight lasted for fourteen years straight.

I don’t even consider the Silver Surfer a contestant.

“Galactus also requires his armor to help regulate internal energies. As Galactus must continuously feed to sustain himself, his power levels are inconsistent throughout any given period. For this reason, Earth’s heroes have been able to achieve various degrees of success in repelling, or defeating, a starving, weakened Galactus. A starving, weakened Galactus has shown susceptibility to the Images of Ikonn spell, which forces him to recall all of the beings he has destroyed as a result of his feeding” From the mouth of Jack Kirby, the creator of Galactus.

I’ll grant that he is ancient as time itself, and can survive through Big Bang’s and possible Big Crunch’s, he exists as a subset of the universe(s). He exists inside of them, Morgoth is a superset to the universe, he exists outside of them. He cannot be killed or even harmed in his non-corporeal form (the one that has power).

Both characters are anthropomorphic personifications, one is of the cosmos, and the other of destruction.

regardless of who would win (morgoth!) It would be a nasty fight to behold

“Morgoth’s power shaped existence. Sure Galactus eat’s planets, but he didnt cause the big bang to occur, far from it. Morgoth shaped the laws and rules to reality with Eâ (God).”

Mate, I believe you are mistaken. Ilúvatar (“Father of All”) created the Ainur (the Valar and maiar) and he then showed them a theme, from which he bade them make a great music. Melkor—whom Ilúvatar had given the “greatest power and knowledge” of all the Ainur decided to go off and create his own theme of music (reminds me of Paradise Lost). Some Ainur joined him, while others continued to follow Ilúvatar, causing discord in the music. This happened thrice, with Eru Ilúvatar successfully overpowering his subordinate with a new theme each time. Ilúvatar then stopped the music and showed them a vision of Arda (the world) and its peoples. The vision disappeared after a while, and Ilúvatar offered the Ainur a chance to enter into Arda and to GOVERN over the new world.

Morgoth does not ever “create” anything. He did not create Arda, but helped (or some would say, harmed) Arda, by constantly destroying what the Valar (the good Ainur that serve Eru) tried to shape. I agree, that he is outside the physical reality of the world, but this does not mean he was able to create anything new. He could only create mockeries of life (orcs, trolls, dragons, and etc.).

- the pondering fool