Mord-Sith Cara (Sword of Truth) Vs Zero-Suit Samus

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February 2nd, 2009 at 6:49 am -

Not knowing what powers come along with the Zero-Suit, I don’t think Samus has much of a chance against the Mord-Sith unless it was completely a ranged attack – otherwise Cara takes down Samus very easily…

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Matapiojo
February 2, 2009
#1

@admin

heh, I suppose that I have to go and do some reading so that your people (SoT) get enough support. I forsee this getting a lot of argument in favor of Samus, but only due to her popularity.

I’ll be back when I know more of the subject.
Cpt Olimar
February 2, 2009
#2

cant samus still run super fast and jump super high and be agile and all that stuff? I don’t think this will be a short fight unless……?
Baron Somebody
February 2, 2009
#3

I’d rather do Samus
admin
February 2, 2009
#4

@Matapiojo – ’tis ok, I knew this would be a tough fight for the mord-sith, but part of the reason I do certain matches is so that people learn about new characters…
Matapiojo
February 2, 2009
#5

@admin

And its greatly appreciated. Thanks to that initial Richard Rahl vs Drizzt Do’Urden match, I have a new series to go read.
Cpt Olimar
February 2, 2009
#6

unfortunately SoT is another series which starts out well, and slowly but continuously degrades over time. However, that would have nothing to do with this battle.
JoshMcFace
February 2, 2009
#7

Samus’ main skill in her zero suit is her laser whip, which can do some serious damage. And her gun as a surprising amount of power. That combined with her chozo agility and strength makes her no push over.
marche
February 2, 2009
#8

can i get some stats on this mord-sith?
Baron Somebody
February 2, 2009
#9

In all seriousness though I’d say Samus wins
eagr2
February 2, 2009
#10

I just saw the Legend of the Seeker episode where they had the mord-sith. She would be nasty close up but as far as I could tell from the episode, she has absolutely no distance weapon at all. I don’t know anything about Samus but
since
Cpt Olimar says “cant samus still run super fast and jump super high and be agile and all that stuff?” and
Josh McFace says “Samus’ main skill in her zero suit is her laser whip, which can do some serious damage. And her gun as a surprising amount of power. That combined with her chozo agility and strength makes her no push over.”

If that’s the case, it doesn’t seem that the Mord-Sith would ever be able to close with Samus… if it works out that way, then Samus FTW!
Saurooon
February 3, 2009
#11

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admin
February 3, 2009
#12

@Saurooon – all of the character images (save a few) are property of other authors, so I’m sure you could find them with a little searching…
Scenario
February 6, 2009
#13

I’ve read the first book so I know that Mord-Sith specialize in torture and turning someone’s magic against them (for use in torture). Samus doesn’t use magic, and I’m pretty sure Cara’s weapon (forgot what it’s called) needs to directly touch the skin to work. That said, the thing hurts like a thousand hells and it’s totally non-lethal.
Conclusion: Samus wins due to immunity to Mord-Sith’s greatest ability and plamsa whip + paralyzer having longer range than torture device.
Scenario
February 10, 2009
#14

I nominate Samus for a Factpile award based on my above post.
Cpt Olimar
February 11, 2009
#15

I haven’t played thhe zero-suit samus games So I dont know what she has. Josh said she has a gun. Knowing samus’ tech, it’s going to be a powerful gun. So, correct me if i am wrong, but samus wil just run around, keep her distance and get a shot on Cara. It’s not that Cara isn’t a wicked opponent for any melee fighter, it’s just that even in zero suit, samus still has great range.

So, unless my knowledge is wrong, I second Scenario’s nomination.
Scenario
February 11, 2009
#16

Eh, not really. It’s just a stun gun in Zero Mission. But the charge is so fast that you can keep up a stun indefinitely, and that’s against fully armored Space Pirates. I’m just going off of Brawl for the whip, though, as that’s the only time she has it. The whip is not actually canon, but it seems to be fair game.
Skrunks
March 5, 2009
#17

Well, the popularity of the Whip is gonna solidify it in Metroid mythos. It’s just too badass to let slide. Besides, Samus was never a pushover, even in Zero Suit form. Imagine getting chomped by crab claws the size of you. Ever been pinched by normal sized crab claws? She’s a tough cookie, that is for sure.
AHEM
September 24, 2009
#18

“Samus doesn’t use magic, and I’m pretty sure Cara’s weapon (forgot what it’s called) needs to directly touch the skin to work”

It’s called an Agiel.

http://sot.wikia.com/wiki/Agiel

With that aside, I have to give this one to Samus.

Mord-Sith are designed to be magic-killers, not techno-killers. Though Cara is nigh-immune to direct uses of magic, she has no such defense against technology. She has no distance attack, needing to get extremely close(within reaching distance; an Agiel is only about a foot long) to attack. She is very lightly armored, basically having only her skin-tight red-leather suit. She’s at a serious disadvantage fighting a technology-based opponent, especially one that has mid and long range attacks. Also, being only an ordinary human(albeit a fit one) I don’t think she can keep up with Samus’ Chozo-enhanced agility and strength.

“unfortunately SoT is another series which starts out well, and slowly but continuously degrades over time.”

I have to agree. The same thing happens to the Mord-Sith themselves. They start as a genuinely terrifying group, a hellish, villainous representing of what torture is like in the real world and in fantastic ones. However, as the series goes on, they(including Cara) gradually deterioate into water-downed clones of Jordan’s Maidens of the Spear.
John Anen
November 18, 2009
#19

I’d like to say that the SoT side would prevail, but I can’t see how Cara would win here. Samus is just too far above her in every way, and her weapons have a much longer reach.

I’m going to just pretend that its the dumbed down, lousy, Legend of the Seeker Cara rather than the one from the books. I don’t mind her getting totally owned at all.
AHEM
December 2, 2009
#20

“I’m going to just pretend that its the dumbed down, lousy, Legend of the Seeker Cara rather than the one from the books. I don’t mind her getting totally owned at all.”

Hahahahaha! Total agreement! I’ll use the same mindset, if you don’t mind.
Mazrim
December 13, 2009
#21

I have never heard of Zero-Suit Samus before reading this, but based on the posts, her main weapons seem to be a gun and a whip. I do, however, know a lot about Mord’Sith and Cara, and I would say this would not be as easy a win for Samus as everybody is saying. First of all, Mord’Sith are amazingly agile, and Cara is one of the best Mord’Sith. I’d say she could dodge the whip without much difficulty. I doubt she could dodge a bullet, as she has never faced technology or anything moving that fast. However, Mord’Sith are nigh immune to pain. Just touching the Agiel gives unimaginable pain, and they were “trained” with it for years. I’d say a Mord’Sith as tough as Cara could take several bullets (if they did not hit her brain or heart or anything vital like that) and keep charging Samus. If she gets close enough, she could finish it with her Agiel. I agree with John Anen that the TV version of Cara is dumb-downed and lousy, but even the much weaker Cara took two crossbows shafts to the chest (and possibly to the lung) and kept on going in the finale of season 1. Since I don’t know anything about Samus, however, I cannot say how accurate she is, or how long it takes her gun to reload. If she can pump 5-10 bullets into Cara befoe she reaches her, even the great Mord-Sith would be toast.
Belisaurius
March 31, 2010
#22

@mazrim

A bullet wound isn’t particularly painful (i mean, yes, it hurts like hell, but not as much as being set on fire) but the shock and trauma of having a high velocity piece of metal enter your body then shatter to scatter more jagged pieces of metal.

As a general rule, an unarmored human can only take two bullets to the torso before incapacitation, and that’s only if they missed a vital organ like the lungs, heart, or kidney.

That being said, Samus is more of an outfighter, she knows to keep her distance while picking away with ranged weapons and she’s fast enough to stay away from Cara.
Mazrim
May 15, 2010
#23

@Belisaurius
If an unarmored human can take two bullets, I’d say Cara could take double that. Her red leather has been repeatedly stated to act like armor, and Mord-Sith are super resistant.

Without knowing where the combatants start, however, this fight will be impossible to ascertain. If Cara is close to Samus, she could probably reach her and end the fight with her Agiel. But if Samus is far enough away, I would willingly concede her gun would kill Cara relatively quickly.
orber
May 15, 2010
#24

mazrim a question for you.

*. First of all, Mord’Sith are amazingly agile*

agility in what area exactly?high jumping high strength?fast running?

a huge disadvantage for Cara here is that you said she can’t dodge bullets.now im not going to say samus can dodge entire hails of bullets but she must atleast have reflexes that can keep up with mach 2.5 in order for her to properly respond while she is shinesparking in her powersuit.

also when talking about raw strength Cara seems to be at a huge disadvantage.Samus trained her entire childhood on a planet 850 times earth gravity and even in that gravity she has shown to pull of moves our best earthly athlete cannot even begin to dream off including jumping several meters high in the air running at speeds no human can compete with and because of the 850 times gravity she must have some pretty absurd toughness and strength.

basicly a punch from samus would splatter any organic being rather easily.
Mazrim
May 15, 2010
#25

@orber
By amazingly agile I meant much more physically fit in every area than a normal soldier or even an elite soldier. I did not mean superhuman, except perhaps in resistance to pain.

However, that description of Samus’s abilities may cause me to withdraw my objections. My only hope was that Cara’s Agiel might overcome Samus if she could get close enough, but from what I’m hearing, Samus is no wimp in close combat.
greenlink94
May 15, 2010
#26

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJTdOHF626M

around 9:09
just to give everyone an idea of how strong samus punches are
orber
May 15, 2010
#27

*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJTdOHF626M

around 9:09
just to give everyone an idea of how strong samus punches are*

in theory yes.

i am more or less lurking in the blue why samus whas running from space pirates in zero mission while she SHOULD be able to achive such absurd forces.

unless space pirates have extremely extreme feats i am not aware off.
greenlink94
May 15, 2010
#28

the fact that they had weapons and she only had a gun that can stun one pirate every three seconds and she was out numbered might have had something to do with it
orber
May 15, 2010
#29

with that kind if punching strength the outnumbered problem could be solved rather easily

the space pirate weaponry is a good answer.but it didn’t insta kill her so sneak up and SAMUS PUNCH!!
greenlink94
May 15, 2010
#30

well we also have the fact if she stayed and and fought more pirates would arrive as backup.and the fact that pirates arent much weaker than samus physicaly
The Guy Who is Actually Intelligent
May 15, 2010
#31

“with that kind if punching strength the outnumbered problem could be solved rather easily

the space pirate weaponry is a good answer.but it didn’t insta kill her so sneak up and SAMUS PUNCH!!”

You gotta remember, those Pirates were standing on Zebes too. and they can do almost everything an unarmored Samus can do. This means that each one would have similar athletic atributes, not counting the fact that they are in fact, armored, and have weapons that can quickly kill her.
Sneaking around was the best option.