Odd that Zero was able to blow the arm off of that Ride Armor with a single buster shot. How does Zero survive a self-destruct, anyway? The wiki says he overloaded his Z-Buster, in which case Bassium is moot.

“Scripted event number 2. The missile in Overdrive Ostrich’s stage. Turns out the missile there is a neutron missile and X wasn’t phased a single bit despite a direct-hit detonation.”

Turns out that nuetron bombs are among the weakest types, and modern tanks can stand up to them. Nuetron bombs kill through radiation exposure, and destroys living tissue. It’s no surprise X can take it.

“Samus using Phazon would be more of a risk since apparently she’s in 75% corrupted mode. This would only result in hypermode being shorter in duration before she risks corruption. X’s solution? Charged Chameleon sting, Mach Dash, etc. ”

She has 10 seconds of invincibility before getting corrupted, regardless of her phazon level. After that, there’s 20 more seconds before the auto vent kicks in, and Samus can vent by firing her weapons anyway. More damage to her means more ammo, and hyper missiles drain it pretty quickly.

“Omega Cannon? Sure it spews out radiation that Samus’ scanners can’t decipher but X tanked a direct hit from a neutron missile/ERW, the radiation from which can ionize its targets. Then again the Omega Cannon is slow moving so meh.”

They can decipher it, it’s gamma radiation. It’s just so powerful that the scans can’t measure it. They can measure phazon radiation. It killed Gorea, the guy who drained planets of life and absorbed every weapon fired at him. It took the sacrifice of an extremely powerful psychic species to seal him. Really, they’re extinct because the strain of holding him killed the race.

It’s really not that slow, and has a huge blast radius.

“Honestly the only instance that the Power Beam has been able to hit the intangible were the Chozo Ghosts. Hunter Ing also have that but the only reason they are even hit by the power beam is because they revert back to their tangible state when the power beam isn’t charged. Charge the power beam and they’ll go back to their intangible forms and the shot phases right through them. Same goes with Phantoon. The power beam can’t hit him while he’s in intangible mode. I don’t see why Chameleon Sting should get be affected by the Power Beam when only one of the 3 intangible foes Samus fought could be hit by it.”

This is what the visors are for. Chozo Ghosts, Hunter Ing, Dark Commandos, etc. can all be struck at any time, including phased out, when the right visor is equipped. Phantoon didn’t have a visor used against him.

“When has she ever hit/reacted to anyone at that speed? Without her speed boosted shots I mean.”

Oh, the irony. The creature you’re looking for is called Serris. It’s a super fast sea serpent (infected by X) that uses the shinespark against Samus. When Samus defeats it, she gets the Speed Booster.

“The space pirates grew into the elite and omega pirates, in samus’ case, it made her throw up.”

Then consider the Phazon Suit, and the effects it might have stacked onto the P.E.D.

” Samus hyper beam is inferior to Mother’s, one hit from her will not decrease X’s WE to zero.”

Assumption. Through both damage and drain, it’s entirely possible.

“To find the energy drain you shouldtake ther max drain(samus with all of her tanks) and se how much it does in one second, my guess would put it a 5 points per sec, as it seemed around the same speed of dark ather’s poison.”

1 second of exposure took out 50 power bombs and 2 energy tanks.

“Phazon=no”

What? Phazon rips things apart on the atomic level. It absolutely rapes bosses, too, so I don’t see why it doesn’t count. A Hyper Missile could cause some major damage.

“Omegacannon= dosent stack, it just replaces, so wouldnt it replace the MPH and MP1-2 beams?”

Doesn’t replace the power beam or missiles, just the sub weapons. I don’t see why it’d replace the stack.

“I. MB was drained by a metriod prior, it took a weapon, it could have take the others to heal samus.”

Doubtful. The Hyper Beam was only transferred to Samus upon the Metroid’s death.

“III. Samus could have zero missles/bombs and 1 point of energy in her shields,but she would still fire fine.”

This is incorrect. It’s impossible to low % run Super Metroid because Mother Brain will kill you if you don’t have enough energy tanks.

“IV. MB’s hyper beam’s continuous ray of fire exausted samus physicaly, byt executing a rapid drain it put her in a state of shock, unable to fire, or even stand.”

This only lends credit to the energy drain. When Samus uses it, it is entirely possible to kill Mother Brain before she can counterattack, due to the stun and knockback.

“X has the ability to fire fully charged shots at the same rate of his smaller ones. He has both wide range and homming weapons, ofensive and defensive, I dont see the dificulty, unless you’re leaving something out.”

The Screw Attack destroys physical ranged weapons and phases through energy based ones.

On intangibility, I already covered it with visors.

This is wrong. The weapons that Mother Brain no longer uses after the Metroid attack are her most powerful ones. It is her weaker weapons that she uses against Samus while Samus has the Hyper Beam.

1)The D.barier has blocked other weapons that hava a go through walls effect.
2)Saying all beams stack isnt true, the wave beam you used dosent stack with anything.

“Phazon corruption can be considered an “upgrade”. The Space Pirates considered it one.”

The space pirates grew into the elite and omega pirates, in samus’ case, it made her throw up.

“So, basically, instead of X losing health, he loses Weapon Energy instead? And the SFM restores Weapon Energy? Well, the Hyper Beam was seen to drain Samus’ shields (which is referenced as Energy), Missiles, Super Missiles, and Power Bombs. I don’t think reasonable to conclude that the Hyper Beam would have no chance at draining X’s “ammo” or ‘Weapon Energy’, because that would be a No-Limits Fallacy. So basically, X’s WE will be drained at a considerable rate due to the sheer strength of the Hyper Beam and it’s “energy draining” ability. And with a consecutive amount of hits, X will begin to lose health.”

A) Samus hyper beam is inferior to Mother’s, one hit from her will not decrease X’s WE to zero.
B)X has multiple WE bars, one for each weapon and his natural one that regens every few seconds, ALL of these are refilled by the SFM, one for every special weapon. 8 bosses, 8 weapons, 8 gauges, per game. With his natural gauge he gets a total of 65 bars with one getting refilled by 15%, and all being filled to 100% every 20-30 seconds or so. She HAS to kill him before the regen, which is imposible.
C)To find the energy drain you shouldtake ther max drain(samus with all of her tanks) and se how much it does in one second, my guess would put it a 5 points per sec, as it seemed around the same speed of dark ather’s poison.

“All of which virtually will cause no damage.”

The charged spreader is ALWAYS a critical hit, while the missles are a charge shot.

“What ranged “super weapons” does X has? Samus has Phazon, the Hyper Beam, Power Bombs, and the Omega Cannon.”

Phazon=no
Hyper beam=k
Powerbombs=KK
Omegacannon= dosent stack, it just replaces, so wouldnt it replace the MPH and MP1-2 beams?

“Yeah, he’s got higher potential, but doesn’t seem to have reached Rock’s level quite yet. Maybe in another hundred years.”

Megaman, at best, was around for 100 years, X was around for 200+ years.

“Samus stores weapons as energy. She has a reserve of, let’s say, weapon energy, stored in her suit before it is converted to a physical object like a missile or bomb. When struck by the Hyper Beam, Samus loses this weapon energy very quickly. When used on Mother Brain, she seems to stop using certain weapons, like the blast she fires from her hands or her eye beam (different one.)”

I. MB was drained by a metriod prior, it took a weapon, it could have take the others to heal samus.
II. MB could have just stopped using weaker weapons as Samus was now a credbile threat.
III. Samus could have zero missles/bombs and 1 point of energy in her shields,but she would still fire fine.
IV. MB’s hyper beam’s continuous ray of fire exausted samus physicaly, byt executing a rapid drain it put her in a state of shock, unable to fire, or even stand.

“I’ll let X have his ability to fire up, but Samus is still more manueverable and faster in the air. She would of course be limited in ranged attacks, but the Screw Attack covers melee quite well. With the chaotic movement the Space Jump has, it’ll be difficult for X to land a hit. Samus has air superiority.”

X has the ability to fire fully charged shots at the same rate of his smaller ones. He has both wide range and homming weapons, ofensive and defensive, I dont see the dificulty, unless you’re leaving something out.

“X’s teleporter hasn’t shown the ability for site to site teleportation. On HQ to site or site to HQ. In either case it is to or from a locked possition (Mavrick Hunter HQ), and heavily restircts its usefulness in this match.”

He telleported right to sigma in the intro level of X5.

“Phazon has been known to hit intangible targets in the past. Yes, the Chozo Ghost. Personally, the way I see it, the Charged Chameleon Sting needs to be dropped in regards with the Hyper Beam, Stacked Beam, Power Beam, and Phazon.”

1) power beam hasnt hit every intangible in metriod.
2) X’s intangibility is different from the chozo ghosts’ X goes through ALL beams and enemies with his, why shoul the power beam hit when it dosent hit every intangible?
3)Hyper and stacked beams dont hit intangibles, power beam hits some, and samus dosent have phazon though.

“This move sucks for the most parts. It doesn’t even propel X faster than Mach1. Why would Samus have a difficult time hitting someone that slow?”

Because X sees her and the beams moving pitifully slow, alowing for a well-timed dodge.

@theobserver
Since it came up, do you have any source on the speed of X’s dash, or is it just called the “mach dash”?

Her wave beam from Metroid Prime is included in this hyper beam right? That one is the one that can actually seek though it can’t pass through walls. It’s seeking ability is also limited to Samus’ lock-on capability which Meta-Ridley is capable of getting out of due to his speed(or maybe it’s because he flew out of range *shrugs*). I’m just using reference from the Metroid Prime Trilogy version of MP. ANY barrier? Sounds like a no-limits fallacy. The wave beam may be able to pierce through walls but she needs the plasma beam to be able to pierce through foes. With the stacked beam this should be no problem but X’s defensive barriers(referenced in-game and manifested as the longer invincibility period) should be able to work here just fine. Let’s not forget, X’s regular charged shot has the same ability to pierce through barriers and multiple foes at a time yet I’m not claiming that it can “pierce any barrier” that Samus can put up. Bosses themselves have this barrier so why should X’s barriers not work?

“Phazon has been known to hit intangible targets in the past. Yes, the Chozo Ghost. ”
That’s them when they were having visions of Phazon. Last time I checked, X wasn’t psychic. Honestly the only instance that the Power Beam has been able to hit the intangible were the Chozo Ghosts. Hunter Ing also have that but the only reason they are even hit by the power beam is because they revert back to their tangible state when the power beam isn’t charged. Charge the power beam and they’ll go back to their intangible forms and the shot phases right through them. Same goes with Phantoon. The power beam can’t hit him while he’s in intangible mode. I don’t see why Chameleon Sting should get be affected by the Power Beam when only one of the 3 intangible foes Samus fought could be hit by it.

“This move sucks for the most parts. It doesn’t even propel X faster than Mach1. Why would Samus have a difficult time hitting someone that slow?”

When has she ever hit/reacted to anyone at that speed? Without her speed boosted shots I mean.

“What ranged “doomdsday weapons” does X have?”

That’s still up for debate amongst MM fans. Personally I’d go for something along the lines of the black hole generated by the charged Magnet Mine, the Shining laser whose range can’t even be seen past the screen, the Tri-thunder which sends high electromagnetic energy(can’t find the output for now though it is capable of running across the ground as sparks before dissipating) hurdling towards you or the W-shredder which sends a tornado moving across the ground, ignores terrain, and has about the same if not greater damage capability as the Storm Tornado.

This move sucks for the most parts. It doesn’t even propel X faster than Mach1. Why would Samus have a difficult time hitting someone that slow?