“he regains weapon energy as a part of his upgrades. the body armor grants him WE equal to the damage he takes/is supposed to take (i used cheats to test it and even if you don’t take damage you regain WE).”

Can he have them both equipped at once? If he can, may I see a source?

“and his giga attack is cannon”

I wasn’t arguing the Giga Attack.

“uhm, this is extremely backwards. since a nuke couldn’t harm zero and the other weapons could that means they are in fact STRONGER than a nuke (can we say OP?) and that would mean that his weapons would deal decent damage to samus.”

Your statement/point in this isn’t very consistent. First, you try to state some kind of defense feat, but then you going to arguing firepower. I simply don’t follow.

Again, Super Misssiles, Power Boms, and uncharged fully upgraded Stacked beam shots don’t scratch Samus, so I don’t see why anything in X’s arsenal that’s equivalent or below those weapons in firepower would hurt Samus either. If you’re going to argue a No-Limits Fallacy, then, to avoid that, I would simply say the majority of X’s weapons would only deal less thanl 1 Energy to Samus. Then, with the damage she does takes, reduce it by 475%. Overall, she’d be taking less than 0.0000000000000000000001 units of Energy from the majority of X’s weapons.

“So basically what you’re saying is that he’ll “track” her? Elaborate on this.”

X and Zero have been able to show the ability to sense when a strong opponent is nearby. In MMX4 X was able to track down Cyber Peacock’s location in cyberspace and was able to “know” that Cyber Peacock was watching him throughout the whole thing(manifested with the set of cross hairs soon as X gets to a part of the stage; this was also shown in X2 in Magna Centipede’s stage). Cyberspace in the MMX universe hasn’t really be expanded upon but we know that in MMZ3, cyber space is a place where dead reploids are able to come back to life, where somehow, the elements of your attacks still work despite theoretically having no air or moisture whatsoever (Zero does a charged fire slash in cyber space, it burns things, Zero does the same fire slash in the real world, it still burns a section of a forest).
I’m just trying to put two and two here. X can sense things based on their unique energy signatures(such as in X5 where he was able to sense where Sigma was despite his ever-evolving energy signature) and was able to track down an opponent while navigating through cyberspace.

@theobserver
thanks for the backup.

“She is corrupted in this match. This is an “everything goes” fight, and there’s no chronological preference to this either. There was also no statement in the opening post say she couldn’t. Really now, I see that as an attempt to “downplay” Samus by taking away her Phazon abilities.”
There is always a “chronological preference” according to the rules:
“Incarnations
Current incarnations of characters are used unless otherwise specified.”

“He means, can the item that transfers damage to WE and the item that recovers WE be used at the same time? What I’m currently wondering is how the Hyper Beam’s ammo draining ability will affect that.”
The parts for the converters are from two diferent games, X5 and X8, the links are on the previous page.

“I meant this more as a defense against melee while airborne. While Samus is flying, she pretty much immune to anything non-melee. If she uses a charge combo in the air, X would have to deal with before he can attack. Of, course, given Samus’ air manueverability, it’s doubtfull he could hit her with a melee attack.”

He dosent have to worry either, once samus shoots, X will shoot to, any damage take will be converted, or healed from after the D.barier goes down, which stops samus’ rapid fire. Then hit samus with a spreader variant of his normal charge shot, and homming missles, at the same time.

“Seeing how close he gets when he teleports to bosses, I’d say Samus has enough time to heal. Really, I’ve never seen X teleport reliably or at will.”
Its in X8, switching from character to char. and teleporting wherever you like, basicaly the MMZ series portable trans server. Video on the previous page.

“Because this may be a non-factor depending on how fast he regain it due to Samus’ Stacked/Hyper Beam seeking, having continent busting strength, being spammed on a rapid fire rate, and traveling faster than 921.0278mph (Mach1.21).”

So wouldnt mach 5+ reaction speeds put the beams in the easy doging range.

“There’s also no gaurantee that it was a nuclear explosion, save that there was reactor involved. I’ve brought up Weavil’s 2 nuclear reactors before. There are Alimbic turrets and Psycho Bit robots that use the same reactor for their weapons, and whose explosions upon defeat do nothing. Alimbic Guardians contain 3 fusion generators just for their weapon systems. All I’m getting from this is that X is powered by a generator that is commonly used for relatively weak weapon systems in Metroid.”
Yet none of them toss meteors, freeze/slow time, run around freezing fire/lava at absolute zero…I could go on.X STILL has multi megaton defenses, some beastly physical strength, I’m repeating myself, check the last page, I’m tired.

“What I’m currently wondering is how the Hyper Beam’s ammo draining ability will affect that”

Wait, since when could the Hyper Beam drain ammo?

“Two armor piercing weapons, plus the Power Beam, and the Wide Beam, which basically tripled the firepower, did not work against the SA-X.”

I guess I wasn’t really paying attention when someone stated in the thread that the SA-X defenses = Varia suit defenses. Using your logic, the impact from war wasps and the smaller Metroid enemies are actually GREATER than the Super Missile hit isn’t it? Their hits sure damage Samus yet the Super Missiles just bounce off the SA-X. That is just plain ridiculous. Someone stated earlier in this thread(I think the last page) that the Fusion Gravity suit is closer to defense to the original Varia.

Now before you go about disproving me I’ll just point out that the X parasites have the ability to boost the offense and defensive capabilities of the hosts they inhabit so why can’t the same apply to the Varia suit? SA-X defenses =/= original Varia defenses. Now if you were to say that SA-X defenses = UAM 1 defenses times energy tanks then that would make much more sense than saying that the standard Varia can deflect Super Missiles to no effect.

“Then, at the beginning of the next scene, Zero is barely able to stand up, and performs his ’severely damaged/almost dead’ animation that he only does at low health. Ciel has to teleport him away.”

Omega was at the missile the entire time and he was fine. If anything Omega’s defenses are closer to X’s defenses than Zero’s fake body.

“On the other hand, everything not in contact with X was unharmed, leading me to believe that the blast radius was even smaller than it appeared. ”

Well this IS the place where X sealed the Dark Elf, the greatest threat in the whole MMX/Z series. Why wouldn’t he fortify it to withstand the standard core explosion? The place might not show it on the screen but the cutscene sure made it so that Zero was actually closer to X’s blast radius. If I were to compare X’s explosion to the standard Maverick explosion, then X’s should be more powerful. Elpizo had to jump out of the way while Zero was there the entire time. He was fine wasn’t he?

There’s also the issue of Omega’s body detonating at the end of MMZ3. Now the MMZ complete works states that all three of the guardians died in that blast and that Zero only survived because the Mother Elf saved him. The ending to MM2: the power fighters showed that Bassnium(stated the most powerful energy on Earth), the energy that powered Bass was discovered by accident. When Wily went off to design Zero however he made sure to make him powered by an energy more powerful than Bassnium. Zero’s X1 death involved his detonation to destroy Vile’s ride armor. Vile was completely fine and X was in the general vicinity.

My point is this: Zero’s energy > Bassnium > Nuclear energy(common in the classic era) This same explosion was responsible for the deaths of X’s 3 guardians yet each time Zero dies in the X series X is perfectly fine.

“Seeing how close he gets when he teleports to bosses, I’d say Samus has enough time to heal. Really, I’ve never seen X teleport reliably or at will.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3JdA4dTu6g

Here X and Zero state that the “feel” Sigma’s presence and here X teleports really close if not exactly in Sigma’s location. If X can sense the energy readings of his foes, then it makes sense that he can shoot through cover and still hit his enemies despite technically not being able to see them. The manual for X1 also states that X can hear in the ultrasonic range, so he’ll definitely know if Samus shinesparks away. Since Samus would be the only energy signature here, X would have no difficulty tracking her.

@Envoy

The original MM’s uncharged plasma shots were able to pierce through Heat Man’s 12000C withstanding armor so would that make his shots more powerful than Heat Man’s flames? Fast forward that to the X series, where X has the mark 17 version of the same buster technology and Samus is in for alot of hurt.

=_= I’m also starting to get tired of stating again and again how X’s power grows from game to game. We’re using the current incarnations right? The last incarnation of X where he actually has his body is during the Elf Wars, which takes place about close to a hundred years after X8. Now we see in X7 that X is already starting to overshadow Zero’s power WITHOUT his armor and in X8 it really doesn’t need to be said that X IS more powerful than Zero. X7 and X8 take place months away from each other and see how X’s power has grown. Close to a hundred years should give him enough firepower to pierce through Samus’ stacked defenses.

Before someone else yells “irrelevant conjecture” I’ll just point to X’s energy accumulation device, which can “generate the necessary energy to fit in X’s power”.

http://megaman.wikia.com/wiki/Mega_Man_X_%28character%29
Most of the info from this page comes from the manuals btw.

I guess this would be a bit useless given that both our combatants have some edge in melee but I stated much earlier in this thread X’s strength but wasn’t able to give a damage quantifier. MMX3 however gives us some insight on X’s physical strength. The charged Triad Thunder involves X doing a ground pound, the impact of which is enough to destroy enemies within the reach of the screen whether they are on another floor or on the same ground. If that isn’t enough to kill them, the sparks that come afterward will.

“There is always a “chronological preference” according to the rules:
‘Incarnations
Current incarnations of characters are used unless otherwise specified.’”

It was otherwise specified. The OP explicitly states ALL upgrades. This includes the P.E.D.

“The parts for the converters are from two diferent games, X5 and X8, the links are on the previous page.”

That doesn’t tell me anything. Like, at all. The Weapon Converter seems to be a temporary item, seeng as it is next to other temporary items. I need you to tell me how it works, and how the other items work. Can he use multiple Chip Upgrades at once? This sounds like a no-limits fallacy, and game mechanics.

The D. Converter is the same. But how will they deal with the fact that the Hyper Beam has shown the ability to drain ammunition?

“He dosent have to worry either, once samus shoots, X will shoot to, any damage take will be converted, or healed from after the D.barier goes down, which stops samus’ rapid fire. Then hit samus with a spreader variant of his normal charge shot, and homming missles, at the same time.”

Once Samus shoots, she immediately goes back into Screw Attack and rams X before he can switch to a melee weapon. She’s more manueverable in the air, as well as faster, so X has no chance in an airborne duel. She might not even have to shoot, or shoot only while above him, due to his difficuty shooting up.

“Its in X8, switching from character to char. and teleporting wherever you like, basicaly the MMZ series portable trans server. Video on the previous page.”

That sounds like game mechanics. The video implies that both X and Axl were there the whole time, but just switching. It isn’t a reliable combat ability.

“So wouldnt mach 5+ reaction speeds put the beams in the easy doging range.”

Rock fights hypersonic foes, X has trouble with low supersonic.

“Yet none of them toss meteors, freeze/slow time, run around freezing fire/lava at absolute zero…I could go on.X STILL has multi megaton defenses, some beastly physical strength, I’m repeating myself, check the last page, I’m tired.”

You pretty much just proved my point. A nuclear fisson reactor just isn’t powerful enough to power Metroid weapons, whereas just one is enough to power X. The Battlehammer and X share the same power source. The Judicator (absolute zero) has a cold fusion reactor, too. Just one of Samus’ weapons could power X indefinitely.
Or she could kill him with her superheated magma launcher, which contains its very own hydrogen reactor.

“It was otherwise specified. The OP explicitly states ALL upgrades. This includes the P.E.D.”
But phazon is not.

“That doesn’t tell me anything. Like, at all. The Weapon Converter seems to be a temporary item, seeng as it is next to other temporary items. I need you to tell me how it works, and how the other items work. Can he use multiple Chip Upgrades at once? This sounds like a no-limits fallacy, and game mechanics.”
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/920754/34134
Hit ctrl and “F” the copy [BOF2] into the pop up search bar.
Its a part, and yes you can equip more than one.

“Rock fights hypersonic foes, X has trouble with low supersonic.”
Says you, since aparently its not enough for the game to say X>Megaman.

“The D. Converter is the same. But how will they deal with the fact that the Hyper Beam has shown the ability to drain ammunition? ”
They are not ammo, and SFM can restore X’s WE, if that counts as ammo.

“And Zero’s fake body repeated proves to be at least equal to the original, if not better. Why is it so difficult to believe that a copy can be just as strong as the original? That’s the entire point of making a copy in the first place: to be the same as the original. At no point is it stated that Zero’s copied body is weaker than the original.”
It wasnt the same as the original, faulty memory, no Z saber, no virus absorbtion, no air dash. Zero retained his cobat prowes and that alone, his fake body is as musch of a copy of the original as the gaurdians are of X.

“Once Samus shoots, she immediately goes back into Screw Attack and rams X before he can switch to a melee weapon. She’s more manueverable in the air, as well as faster, so X has no chance in an airborne duel. She might not even have to shoot, or shoot only while above him, due to his difficuty shooting up.”
What switch, both the giga attack and the Z saber has near no switch time. The Z saber only needs swing time. Saying X is incapable of lifting his arm and shooting is like saying link and Crono and pokemon trainer(exept when in battle) cant speak, or that Omega can only grunt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcugNeUvC6M&feature=channel
At the end of the video X poins the buster down and fires, he dosent do that in game, but he CAN do it, if he can point either of his arms in a direction he can fire it as well.
“That sounds like game mechanics. The video implies that both X and Axl were there the whole time, but just switching. It isn’t a reliable combat ability.”
So you didnt read nor see the parts where X and Axl left for HQ, then returned to Zero.

“What does that even mean? It stores solar power to keep X’s energy. It doesn’t say it increases X’s power at all.”
And it feeds that energy into the X buster, with some from his fission reactor.

@theobserver
Also some versions of the megabuster could fire through walls, like Samus’ plasma beam, some of X’s weapons do this too, it was kinda obvious that a great deal of these attacks would hurt samus easy. And yes, we use the last battle ready incarnation as the current.

X could actualy scan and steal items from Samus with the analyzer force metal, and item missle from MMX:CM.

“Its a part, and yes you can equip more than one.”

Already read that last page. It’s a Metal, so how many can he equip and how do they work in general? The wiki is useless. Still pretty game mechanics, there, though.

“Says you, since aparently its not enough for the game to say X>Megaman.”

Yeah, he’s got higher potential, but doesn’t seem to have reached Rock’s level quite yet. Maybe in another hundred years.

“They are not ammo, and SFM can restore X’s WE, if that counts as ammo.”

Samus stores weapons as energy. She has a reserve of, let’s say, weapon energy, stored in her suit before it is converted to a physical object like a missile or bomb. When struck by the Hyper Beam, Samus loses this weapon energy very quickly. When used on Mother Brain, she seems to stop using certain weapons, like the blast she fires from her hands or her eye beam (different one.)

I’ll let X have his ability to fire up, but Samus is still more manueverable and faster in the air. She would of course be limited in ranged attacks, but the Screw Attack covers melee quite well. With the chaotic movement the Space Jump has, it’ll be difficult for X to land a hit. Samus has air superiority.

“So you didnt read nor see the parts where X and Axl left for HQ, then returned to Zero.”

Didn’t seem like it was usable as a combat ability. He can teleport closer to allies, but always lands too far away from enemies.

“And it feeds that energy into the X buster, with some from his fission reactor.”

Yes, but does not increase his power at all.

*“It was otherwise specified. The OP explicitly states ALL upgrades. This includes the P.E.D.”
But phazon is not.*

are you saying here that samus got a PED upgrade but no phazon?thats not how it works.she got the PED and with that comes her 75% corrupted status.

Mother Brain’s Hyper Beam drained health and weapons simultaniously per second. Samus’s Hyper Beam does all the damage in a single instant, so it probably drains weapon energy in that same instant.

Zebes is roughly 800 times more massive than Earth. It would take considerably more energy to shake a screen size on Zebes than to do the same thing on Earth.

And yes, lower diameter and higher mass does mean higher gravity.If Zebes has compaable mass to Earth, than its gravity would be Earthlike (probably less than 2g but greater than 1g). Zebes however is well over 100 times as massive as Earth and it is smaller. That means that things on Zebes are pulling 100s of Gs just by being able to exist on that planet.

All her suits are canon. They just like to squeeze her back into the Varia suit because it is her trademark suit since Metroid II: Return of Samus. It IS her look. Just like how Megaman X reverts back to his base form in nearly every game despite all of the armor upgrades he got in the previous game; that is his look. As a side note, in Super Metroid it is possible to disable any upgrade previously obtained including suit upgrades. She could have had the Gravity Suit turned off, and considering that it takes glitching the game in order to get out of Maridia (which may or may not still involve the Gravity Suit) she definiately grabbed it during that mission.

“Mach Dash”

This move sucks for the most parts. It doesn’t even propel X faster than Mach1. Why would Samus have a difficult time hitting someone that slow?

“I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. The Wave Beam. It has a “goes through walls” effect. It’s been seen to go through walls, defenses, energy, etc., etc. Also, the Wave Beam also has the ability to seek, so that means the Hyper Beam will seek since it stacks on top of it.”

1)The D.barier has blocked other weapons that hava a go through walls effect.
2)Saying all beams stack isnt true, the wave beam you used dosent stack with anything.

“Phazon corruption can be considered an “upgrade”. The Space Pirates considered it one.”

The space pirates grew into the elite and omega pirates, in samus’ case, it made her throw up.

“So, basically, instead of X losing health, he loses Weapon Energy instead? And the SFM restores Weapon Energy? Well, the Hyper Beam was seen to drain Samus’ shields (which is referenced as Energy), Missiles, Super Missiles, and Power Bombs. I don’t think reasonable to conclude that the Hyper Beam would have no chance at draining X’s “ammo” or ‘Weapon Energy’, because that would be a No-Limits Fallacy. So basically, X’s WE will be drained at a considerable rate due to the sheer strength of the Hyper Beam and it’s “energy draining” ability. And with a consecutive amount of hits, X will begin to lose health.”

A) Samus hyper beam is inferior to Mother’s, one hit from her will not decrease X’s WE to zero.
B)X has multiple WE bars, one for each weapon and his natural one that regens every few seconds, ALL of these are refilled by the SFM, one for every special weapon. 8 bosses, 8 weapons, 8 gauges, per game. With his natural gauge he gets a total of 65 bars with one getting refilled by 15%, and all being filled to 100% every 20-30 seconds or so. She HAS to kill him before the regen, which is imposible.
C)To find the energy drain you shouldtake ther max drain(samus with all of her tanks) and se how much it does in one second, my guess would put it a 5 points per sec, as it seemed around the same speed of dark ather’s poison.

“All of which virtually will cause no damage.”

The charged spreader is ALWAYS a critical hit, while the missles are a charge shot.

“What ranged “super weapons” does X has? Samus has Phazon, the Hyper Beam, Power Bombs, and the Omega Cannon.”

Phazon=no
Hyper beam=k
Powerbombs=KK
Omegacannon= dosent stack, it just replaces, so wouldnt it replace the MPH and MP1-2 beams?

“Yeah, he’s got higher potential, but doesn’t seem to have reached Rock’s level quite yet. Maybe in another hundred years.”

Megaman, at best, was around for 100 years, X was around for 200+ years.

“Samus stores weapons as energy. She has a reserve of, let’s say, weapon energy, stored in her suit before it is converted to a physical object like a missile or bomb. When struck by the Hyper Beam, Samus loses this weapon energy very quickly. When used on Mother Brain, she seems to stop using certain weapons, like the blast she fires from her hands or her eye beam (different one.)”

I. MB was drained by a metriod prior, it took a weapon, it could have take the others to heal samus.
II. MB could have just stopped using weaker weapons as Samus was now a credbile threat.
III. Samus could have zero missles/bombs and 1 point of energy in her shields,but she would still fire fine.
IV. MB’s hyper beam’s continuous ray of fire exausted samus physicaly, byt executing a rapid drain it put her in a state of shock, unable to fire, or even stand.

“I’ll let X have his ability to fire up, but Samus is still more manueverable and faster in the air. She would of course be limited in ranged attacks, but the Screw Attack covers melee quite well. With the chaotic movement the Space Jump has, it’ll be difficult for X to land a hit. Samus has air superiority.”

X has the ability to fire fully charged shots at the same rate of his smaller ones. He has both wide range and homming weapons, ofensive and defensive, I dont see the dificulty, unless you’re leaving something out.

“X’s teleporter hasn’t shown the ability for site to site teleportation. On HQ to site or site to HQ. In either case it is to or from a locked possition (Mavrick Hunter HQ), and heavily restircts its usefulness in this match.”

He telleported right to sigma in the intro level of X5.

“Phazon has been known to hit intangible targets in the past. Yes, the Chozo Ghost. Personally, the way I see it, the Charged Chameleon Sting needs to be dropped in regards with the Hyper Beam, Stacked Beam, Power Beam, and Phazon.”

1) power beam hasnt hit every intangible in metriod.
2) X’s intangibility is different from the chozo ghosts’ X goes through ALL beams and enemies with his, why shoul the power beam hit when it dosent hit every intangible?
3)Hyper and stacked beams dont hit intangibles, power beam hits some, and samus dosent have phazon though.

“This move sucks for the most parts. It doesn’t even propel X faster than Mach1. Why would Samus have a difficult time hitting someone that slow?”

Because X sees her and the beams moving pitifully slow, alowing for a well-timed dodge.

@theobserver
Since it came up, do you have any source on the speed of X’s dash, or is it just called the “mach dash”?

“Well that’s just swell because there’s the scripted X vs Vile fight where X, no matter what his upgrades or weapons (not even the almighty Hadouken), could do a thing to scratch Vile’s Ride Armor other than push it a few meters away. It took Zero’s detonation to actually vaporize this armor(Zero’s energy explanation in posts 10 and 11 of this page) and at the time, Zero was the only hunter capable of taking down Sigma. ”

Odd that Zero was able to blow the arm off of that Ride Armor with a single buster shot. How does Zero survive a self-destruct, anyway? The wiki says he overloaded his Z-Buster, in which case Bassium is moot.

“Scripted event number 2. The missile in Overdrive Ostrich’s stage. Turns out the missile there is a neutron missile and X wasn’t phased a single bit despite a direct-hit detonation.”

Turns out that nuetron bombs are among the weakest types, and modern tanks can stand up to them. Nuetron bombs kill through radiation exposure, and destroys living tissue. It’s no surprise X can take it.

“Samus using Phazon would be more of a risk since apparently she’s in 75% corrupted mode. This would only result in hypermode being shorter in duration before she risks corruption. X’s solution? Charged Chameleon sting, Mach Dash, etc. ”

She has 10 seconds of invincibility before getting corrupted, regardless of her phazon level. After that, there’s 20 more seconds before the auto vent kicks in, and Samus can vent by firing her weapons anyway. More damage to her means more ammo, and hyper missiles drain it pretty quickly.

“Omega Cannon? Sure it spews out radiation that Samus’ scanners can’t decipher but X tanked a direct hit from a neutron missile/ERW, the radiation from which can ionize its targets. Then again the Omega Cannon is slow moving so meh.”

They can decipher it, it’s gamma radiation. It’s just so powerful that the scans can’t measure it. They can measure phazon radiation. It killed Gorea, the guy who drained planets of life and absorbed every weapon fired at him. It took the sacrifice of an extremely powerful psychic species to seal him. Really, they’re extinct because the strain of holding him killed the race.

It’s really not that slow, and has a huge blast radius.

“Honestly the only instance that the Power Beam has been able to hit the intangible were the Chozo Ghosts. Hunter Ing also have that but the only reason they are even hit by the power beam is because they revert back to their tangible state when the power beam isn’t charged. Charge the power beam and they’ll go back to their intangible forms and the shot phases right through them. Same goes with Phantoon. The power beam can’t hit him while he’s in intangible mode. I don’t see why Chameleon Sting should get be affected by the Power Beam when only one of the 3 intangible foes Samus fought could be hit by it.”

This is what the visors are for. Chozo Ghosts, Hunter Ing, Dark Commandos, etc. can all be struck at any time, including phased out, when the right visor is equipped. Phantoon didn’t have a visor used against him.

“When has she ever hit/reacted to anyone at that speed? Without her speed boosted shots I mean.”

Oh, the irony. The creature you’re looking for is called Serris. It’s a super fast sea serpent (infected by X) that uses the shinespark against Samus. When Samus defeats it, she gets the Speed Booster.

“The space pirates grew into the elite and omega pirates, in samus’ case, it made her throw up.”

Then consider the Phazon Suit, and the effects it might have stacked onto the P.E.D.

” Samus hyper beam is inferior to Mother’s, one hit from her will not decrease X’s WE to zero.”

Assumption. Through both damage and drain, it’s entirely possible.

“To find the energy drain you shouldtake ther max drain(samus with all of her tanks) and se how much it does in one second, my guess would put it a 5 points per sec, as it seemed around the same speed of dark ather’s poison.”

1 second of exposure took out 50 power bombs and 2 energy tanks.

“Phazon=no”

What? Phazon rips things apart on the atomic level. It absolutely rapes bosses, too, so I don’t see why it doesn’t count. A Hyper Missile could cause some major damage.

“Omegacannon= dosent stack, it just replaces, so wouldnt it replace the MPH and MP1-2 beams?”

Doesn’t replace the power beam or missiles, just the sub weapons. I don’t see why it’d replace the stack.

“I. MB was drained by a metriod prior, it took a weapon, it could have take the others to heal samus.”

Doubtful. The Hyper Beam was only transferred to Samus upon the Metroid’s death.

“III. Samus could have zero missles/bombs and 1 point of energy in her shields,but she would still fire fine.”

This is incorrect. It’s impossible to low % run Super Metroid because Mother Brain will kill you if you don’t have enough energy tanks.

“IV. MB’s hyper beam’s continuous ray of fire exausted samus physicaly, byt executing a rapid drain it put her in a state of shock, unable to fire, or even stand.”

This only lends credit to the energy drain. When Samus uses it, it is entirely possible to kill Mother Brain before she can counterattack, due to the stun and knockback.

“X has the ability to fire fully charged shots at the same rate of his smaller ones. He has both wide range and homming weapons, ofensive and defensive, I dont see the dificulty, unless you’re leaving something out.”

The Screw Attack destroys physical ranged weapons and phases through energy based ones.

On intangibility, I already covered it with visors.