mc tries to kill starkiller,when out of nowhere, a frigate crashes into the chief and bam!!! he is dead…

i bet. how about the halo vs star wars post funny stuff.

I see it all through this website, we need to tape all fanboys to a chair and make them play ff7, gears of war, cod4, max payne, and half life. maybe then their grammar will improve after their horizons broaden.

Sniping wont work, Starkiller would sence it and just move.
Thank you for agreeing The One Sin.
Master Chief literally has absolutly no chance in hell, even if he trys to glass the planet Starkiller just has to call his ship down and board Mc’s ship. Btw Glassing a planet takes hours upon hours.
Btw this would just be a oh I see you and the fight begins battle, thats how all of these are. There are no ships no extra bullsh*t from anywhere else, its a character battle 1 on 1.

wtf! i have to see that,starkiller looks like he would have easily pwned palpatine.

ok all MC fanboys out there…basicly this is the same as vader vs MC…yeah i dont give a care in hell how much you want MC to win he loses!!! its a freaking force user! like i said for mc vs vader…
the only wany MC might have a chance is if he gains immunity from the force…which is almost as impossible as him suddenly gaining the force!!!!

face it MC loses….

Dude you are stupid read the f*cking book. Darth Sidious got rocked and only attacked Kota because he knew he didn’t stand a chance. Galen let all of the force out of his body completely destroying the emperors throne room all to create a distraction so his companions could escape.

One more thing for you, Starkiller is the strongest force user to ever exist. That is what George Lucas said and it is from all real canon. Go look at all of the things that George Lucas said about Starkiller you might just realize that he is extremely powerful.

I know Galen is powerful and maybe your right but he doesnt stand a chance against Darth Nihilus or Darth Revan cause they are the most powerful sith ever and only a jedi with godlike powers could kill them, and by the way admin, how about in tag teams darth vader and darth sidious vs darth nihilus and darth revan. And galen your fanboy ravings are more annoying then the epic fail guy who wouldnt shut the f**k up so your constant fanboy ravings are annoying cause there are 3 sith who could kill starkiller with ease and those are:Darth Revan(favorite star wars character), Darth Nihilus and Darth Scion. So don’t go on saying “starkiller is the most powerful force user and best fighter in Star Wars” or “starkiller can kill anyone” or “starkiller is the best fighter in the universe” and last but not least “your stupid and you do not know hes more powerful then any other star wars character” so just shove any more fanboy ravings up your f#cking ass you asstard raving fanboy.

regardless chuck norris kicks anyones ass

Master Chief dont stand a f*ncking chance here.

and yes Starkiller nearly killed the Emperor,who attacked a defenseless Kota because he couldnt win,then Starkiller sacrificed himself for the others escape.
fact: after the fight with Vader,Galen could have killed him and the same goes to the Emperor,just read the Star Wars force unleashed comic book where Galen CLEARLY slams the Emperor and when was about to kill him attacked Kota

Lol, read the interview that he went through. He specifically states that out of all canon evidence Starkiller was the most powerful force user to ever exist.

well starkiller is said to be the most powerful force user in all canon but i do not know if he would take jedi master luke that would be a great fight, also when star killer faced palps he beat him bad but i will say that palps did not try his hardest (the only time we have ever seen palps fight in a movie was number 3 and we all know how shitty that movie was cuz of one actor) and also if palps was to have fought with all his might, starkiller would not be able to win that easy since palps was able to over power master yoda so i do think starkiller would beat alot of jedi but not as easy as some might think, but him killing MC would be a just grabing him with the force and crushing him.

Midi-chlorians count for nothing unless that person is force sensitive. It just so happens that beings with high midi-chlorian counts sometimes appear to be force users, although neither proeprty is exclusive to one another.

As for Luke, he is neither or was the most powerful force user or Jedi Knight (The latter fell to Mace Windu), the claim to fame of the most powerful users goes to Starkiller and Darth Nihilius. Luke merely instigated the revival of the Galactic Republic and the Jedi Order, although he would later fall to the dark side thanks to the second coming of Palpatine.

Starkiller owns this match without question.

Which totally explains how general Nihilius or Darth Scion each had a zero midi-chlorian count even in life, yet they were respectively two of the most powerful force users alive (Besides Starkiller, whose midi-chlorian count was lower than Vaders). As did Palpatine, who could historically unleash force powers greater than the midi-chlorian superior Yoda, whose midi cell count outnumbered his tenfold.

Prior to his Cyberization, General Grievous had an exceptionally high Midi-Chlorian count (Yoda level); yet he was proven incapable of becoming sufficiently force sensitive enough to even wield a lightsaber until he underwent his technological metamorphosis to improve his coordination to a sufficient degree. Even that was not enough.

People tend to forget that the Force is not a biological component present in blood; it cannot be tricked, fooled, mimicked or forced into any allegiance with any person at any time. It is purely an ethereal and proto-sentient mind that exists of its own accord as a result of the thoughts and feelings of the universe; and for as long as the force maintains its own destiny, then pawns such as Vader, Luke, Palpatine and Starkiller should forever do its bidding.

If not, then explain to me how a batch of Vader clones, with the exact same midi-chlorian count as Anakin could not be trained to even safely wield a lightsaber? The force only goes to those that the force wills.

Wrong. Again.

When the Jedi Exile uncovered his records, they discovered Scion to be an odd circumstance due to his zero midi count. Equally Nihilius communicated with the force in a way that was unknown by the standards of both the Sith and Jedi, which confused them as to how he could infuse his mortal body with a rift present in the force and exist beyond death.

Visas Marr discovered this and Darth Kryat confirmed it whilst during his research on Korriban in 137ABY.

(Courtesy of “The Sith Lords”)

Both the dark side and light side are designed to quell one another in immediate conflict (Similar in the manner of combining an acidic chemical compound to that of a base solution.), Yoda was merely overpowered due to the fact that he was not Palpatines equal as proven when he could not successfully duel Dooku in a display of their force powers. Light and dark play off on one another, it only conflicts when there is a lesser power in player against a superior foe.

Although I explained to everyone before that Yoda was not a great combatant in any respect, he was merely admired and beloved for his wisdom; not his veracity in duelling (Unlike Windu). Although at this point in the narrative Yoda was far older and far more decrepit that his Knighted self.

Actually Grievous had unsuccessfully wielded a Lightsaber long before his encounter with Dooku, guess where he lost his first appendage. He was even worse with magna staffs and only proved himself capable with a Blaster until his cyberization, which greatly decreased his midi-count due to the replacement of the majority of his organic body.

“Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous”

Midi count AFTER cyberization (Episode III): 11,900
Midi count BEFORE cyberization: Unknown (But claimed to be far higher)

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Actually in the Phantom Menace DVD commentary (It was a gift, not a purchase of my own), Lucas actually states that the presence of midi-chlorians and the force are NOT mutually exclusive to one another and must be treated as separate entities. And that it must remain distinct from the spiritual and metaphysical side of the Force which is the only aspect that is considered canonical. It just so happens that the rest of the Star Wars series writers and creators (Leigh Brackett and Lawrence Kasdan) agrees that the Force is a metaphysical, binding, and ubiquitous power devoid of biological impunity.

“Jedi vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force”
“Power of the Jedi Sourcebook”

Other instances of force sensitivity occurring minus the aid or presence of midi-chlorians.

- Rakatan hyperdrive and AI constructs capable of using force sensitivity despite it possessing a zero number of biological components.

- Ysalamiri forest slugs (With an incredibly low midi-chlorian count in comparison to normal humans) are capable of generating force fields up to several Kilometres to protect their natural habitats from be destroyed from the naturally degrading conditions of the planet Myrkr.

- Gurlanins and Taozin were considerably force sensitive enough to disguise their presence to the Jedi who lived within spitting distances of them, despite having a remarkably lower midi-chlorian count.

- Hssiss, Toydarians, Terentateks, Hutts, Yinchorri, Dashades and Voxyn are further examples of naturally occurring instances of force sensitivity without an abundant presence of midi-chlorians.

so midi-clorians dont count for anything eh?

You’re right, essentially there are the practical and mystical aspects of the force, both of which ally individually with the prequel and original trilogy.

The practical not only deals with the midi-chlorians, but also the inherent genetic conditions related to the force which suggest that the force can be linked to the male Y genes during conception.

In this case you have Darth Vader producing Leia and Luke Skywalker, both force sensitive offspring. Yet in the case of Han Solo and Leia Skywalker, their offspring were not the result of a force sensitive Y gene and thus their children were not culpable force users. It is even suggested in one of the novels that Anakins immaculate (And Christ-like) conception was a result of midi-chlorians…

Ugh. But the less said about that the better. Either way this is what I call the “Prequel Trilogy School of Thought”.

The “Original Trilogy School of Thought” deals with the idea that the force is instead a sort of collective universal conscious that is both omnipotent and omniscient. It weaves itself through the fabric and fibre of the universe, consciously binding everything within it.

This metaphysical ‘entity’ directly influences the universe through subjects whom are sensitive enough to detect its presence (Force sensitivity), bending them to their will and aligning them to do its actions by imbuing them with a sense of prophetic importance or destiny (See: The balancing of the force).

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I tend to ally with the latter, not just because the prequel trilogy was a terrible and easily forgotten (With any luck) abortion, but the evidence tends to dictate towards the presence of a spiritual and metaphysical nature in the force.

How can Jedi and Sith remain as Force Ghosts to direct the living when their own midi-chlorians vanished with their organic bodies?

You could argue that living entities channel these Ghosts, but how could Luke (For example) even channel Obi-Wan when he had no idea that he became a Ghost?

How could Nihilius become one of the greatest force users in existence and exist beyond his own death when he had no midi-chlorians to speak of?

And how does the force physically affect inanimate objects when there are no midi-chlorians present?

SWTFU you are wrong palpatine did not defeat yoda yoda was absorbing the force lightning the power grew 2 much and exploded then yoda fell cause he couldn’t hold on and if you’ve seen the movie palpatine tries 2 run away from master yoda instead of fighting him the only rreason he didn’t fall was because he was heavier than yoda so he wasn’t blasted as far

L-W on your list who is the grey jedi or some other people and groups on that list and what is the order of the silver jedi i’m a huge star wars fan and i have never heard of either. also when and where did the exile discover scion’s records. and jedi master qui gon jinn did because anakin’s count was 20;000 higher than yoda’s he predicted anakin would become a great jedi one day and he believed that because of his midi-chlorian count

Yeah TL I have to agree with you Lucas did leave way to many loop holes in Star Wars

Lol im a little late to post and id say the winners basically decided but what the hell… STARKILLER WINS ! also galen marek i am starkiller fan also

Well look at you Sean, the epic storyteller. I have to agree that would be cool to watch. (I have to try that sometime…)

BTW, palpatine killed starkiller because starkiller wasn’t trying to “kill back”

have you ever heard of taking a bullet?

Great Force-user (not the greatest, but powerful none the less), plus light saber. Not a good day for MC.

- the pondering fool

Having recently completed Force Unleashed, I can say without a doubt that Starkiller would stomp MC with no effort. Hell, one bolt of Force Lightning should be enough to do the job.

trust ne they are both very good swordsmen but without force or guns this will be a very very good fight

Starkiller actually has a lot of experience, being Vader’s apprentice and going through brutal training even on himself. Starkiller is actually as equally powerful as The Emperor, as stated by The Emperor himself. He posesses The Force, and Master Chief can shoot pieces of metal, solid matter small objects and laser shooting weapons that can easily be deflected. Even without The Force, Starkiller has powerful usage of the lightsaber and is incredibly agile. Needless to say, Master Chief might as well quit his ambition of stopping the rings and just leave them for The Sith to take over (resulting in the sequel of this matchup: “The Sith vs. The Flood”).