Amazingly, this is the first time Red Skull has appeared on this site. I have a feeling it won’t be the last. While I think I know who most will side with, I am gonna go with the Chief on this one.
What say you?
Amazingly, this is the first time Red Skull has appeared on this site. I have a feeling it won’t be the last. While I think I know who most will side with, I am gonna go with the Chief on this one.
What say you?
October 23, 2009
#1
If captain America can beat him the Im sure as h3ll master chief can.
October 23, 2009
#2
red skull has never been much of an actual fighter, hes a mastermind, so without prep time, skulls body would be toast, also remember red skull changes bodies so i dont thing chief could ultimately kill him
October 23, 2009
#3
Master Chief should win as he’s more powerful then Red Skull who is physically peak human as opposed to Master Chief’s superhuman physical abilities.
October 23, 2009
#4
@orpheus
oh? Master Shpliff doesn’t have an indestructible boomerang shield and master chief didn’t go toe to toe with the hulk(who was going beserker…haha, get it) and lived…
I may not know a lot about red skull,but comparing the “chief” to Cap’n A, to me at least, is highly insulting.
No offense…i hate “da chief”(thanks to his fanatics around here)
October 23, 2009
#5
I think Master Chief is a much better super soldier then Captain America.
October 23, 2009
#6
@ Sam the heretic
Well thats an invalid comparison because even if we wanted to imagine chief fighting the hulk there are a number of possibilities such as the chief could survive or lose.
And maybe you should reword the sentence where it says “master chief didn’t go toe to toe with the hulk(who was going beserker…haha, get it) and lived” That is very wrong because chief never went up to hulk and if it was a deathmach do you think Captain America would win, the answer is no and Captain America only won(if im right) because of his shield which can survive all kinetic impact and because of his enhanced reflexes.
And I have a comparison for you has captain America survived a 2 kilometer drop while being scorched alive onto the surface of the planet with only a shield to help dampen the fall.
Anyone may answer the question
And though im not a fanatic ,John-117 is my favorite character.
October 23, 2009
#7
If this is just straight combat, I would have to give this….*shudders*…..to the Master Chief. Red Skull was one of the more “maniacal planners/genius” type villians. I know at one point he was able to inhabit a clone of Captain America’s body with all the “perfect human physical abilities” that went along with that. But since it is current incarnation I believe he is now “Currently, in one of the android body engineered by Arnim Zola, with enhanced endurance and resilience.” (wkipedia).
In terms of intellect and strategy, he [Red Skull] out strips Master Chief by a long shot. But since I don’t know any of his android body’s abilities, I am leaning towards the Master Chief….
- the pondering fool
October 23, 2009
#8
I would call captain America surviving an encounter with an enraged hulk PIS,especially since he has had trouble with less.
October 23, 2009
#9
@orpheus
your initial statement was…if Captain America can do it, so can da chief. I was merely pointing out that,no, each character has his own ability and no, Captain America didn’t have the shield when he faced hulk
according to wiki,one of the Red Skull has access to the super solider serum…the same as Captain America…the same guy who,without his shield,faced the hulk in a fist fight…
October 23, 2009
#10
“the same guy who,without his shield,faced the hulk in a fist fight…”
Did Captain America straight up fight the hulk fist for fist?If they did ever did Captain America would end up as a blood stain on the floor.Plus i don’t see Capts fist phasing the hulk.
October 23, 2009
#11
exactly wat i was thinking Marche
October 23, 2009
#12
I give it to Chief. Nice Halo Ledgends pic admin.
October 23, 2009
#13
Im not trying to flame but arn’t the spartans from halo
A bit superior to captain america. I mean they have been known to lift at least 2 tons and were able to run 34 miles per an hour. Unless Captain America was able to exceed those expectations.
Also may you please give more detail on the fight involving Captain America and the Hulk, that fight must have been epic.
October 23, 2009
#14
They are.The super soldier serum only makes people peak human.Captain america’s body was able to reproduce it,hence his enhanced stamina.
October 23, 2009
#15
Cpt. A is only a slightly above peak human with a kick-ass shield. MC without armour is already much more powerful than a peak human. Adding a Mark 6 suit that allows him to lift 4-tons (It doubles the strength from the Mark 5) run 30-40 mph, and jump 30-40 ft. straight up. MC could easily at least survive the hulk. Beating him is another story, but definatly survive for a limited time. If all red skull can dois be a peak human a limited amount of time, I’m sure an extremely talented super-soldier from the 26th century that accidentally killed 3 ODSTs in a sparring match at the age of 14, is more than a match.
October 24, 2009
#16
HEY!!! I JUST SAW BABY RICHARD FROM LOOKING FOR GROUP!!!
THERE ARE OTHERE PEOPLE THAT KNOW ABOUT IT!!!
sorry for using caps lock but thats really exciting…
October 24, 2009
#17
@orpheus 12
my apologies dude, i underestimated spartans,though i was making a conjecture based on just one event…
I think the euent was in the first Avengers movies, in which Hulk just went beserk and took on Ironman, Thor and Captain America
to my knowledge, i don’t know if that movie would count as canon,if not, i withdraw my earlier misguided comments…
(i got a date with palm…tree, and my face)
October 24, 2009
#18
I have to say the chief. Red Skull seems to be crazy genius, and thta does not help much in a fist fight.
October 24, 2009
#19
@ Sam the heretic
Its all right,its all right….
October 24, 2009
#20
@halo boffs
wiki says Red Skull is an expert marksman. What is Master Chief’s visor made of? Could repeated direct hits to hit by a mad genius weapon of some kind(m24 sniperweapossystem perhaps?) break through
a long shot i know…but dammit, if reed richards, mr. “elastic” can somehow defeat galactus, Red skull ought to be able to as well…..
He has genius level intellect for pete’s sake
October 24, 2009
#21
@ sam the heretic
it wouldn’t matter what the visor is made of because chief has an energy shield. the visor would only matter AFTER he broke through the shield.
October 24, 2009
#22
Master chiefs visor is polarized
And must be made out of a ballistic resistant material
October 24, 2009
#23
Dammit, MC MC MC MC!!! So you’re telling me a freakin’ genius in peak human condition and expert marksmanship can’t take him down.
How did the Mc vs. Batman thread go then? Surely red skull must at least get prep time.
October 24, 2009
#24
Like ive said before,people like batman can’t do much without prep against armored opponents without some type of plot device or help.
Especially since batman had only his movie weapons in MC vs batman.
October 24, 2009
#25
So surely the same exception can be made for Red Skull? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander(batsys the gander)
if not, i don’t see any reason to debate further and “da chief” gets another easy win…against a genius…at peak human levels etc etc
October 25, 2009
#26
@dracospinx
Are you reffering to my avatar. you said you hate me.
(I dont actually care but I care enough to comment)
October 26, 2009
#27
Well unless redskull has any standard issue (stuff he would be assigned to carry on a regualar mission or what he has in a armory) weapons or equipment he can’t really have prep time as Masterchief could have any combination in the unsc arsenal. As an example to whatever “team” redskull is on.Redskull could get the standard weaponry.
October 27, 2009
#28
“As an example to whatever “team” redskull is on.Redskull could get the standard weaponry.”
i don’t quite follow….
October 27, 2009
#29
You know like the weapons are inventory he usually carries and forget about the team thing. That doesn’t really apply to redskull . What I ment by “team” I meant like an organization or millitary faction, like how mc is part of the unsc and he gets their standard weaponry.
October 29, 2009
#30
oh, i see. true, i don’t know any of red Skulls standard weapons…i just thought him being a genius and such…he could find MC’s weakness and make something to exploit it…
October 29, 2009
#31
isnt red skull able to make cosmic cube’s devices that can alter reality itself
October 30, 2009
#32
“isnt red skull able to make cosmic cube’s devices that can alter reality itself”
if so…MC is fucked in the ass….again, YAAAAAAAAAY
October 30, 2009
#33
it doesnt matter how much i like mc even i know he’ll lose this one
October 31, 2009
#34
So a peak physical human genious is now suddenly a match for a peak-physical super-soldier in a shielded ability enhancing suit that has more armour than a modern day tank? Not to metion he is also incredibaly smart for a human and, if like other SPARTANs, can hit a 3 meter target with a rocket from 1-2 kilometers away through the 2x scope on the launcher. Plus the weapon possibilities. I don’t think RS is much of a match here.
October 31, 2009
#35
“So a peak physical human genious is now suddenly a match for a peak-physical super-soldier in a shielded ability enhancing suit that has more armour than a modern day tank? Not to metion he is also incredibaly smart for a human and, if like other SPARTANs, can hit a 3 meter target with a rocket from 1-2 kilometers away through the 2x scope on the launcher. Plus the weapon possibilities. I don’t think RS is much of a match here.”
In straight up combat., MC would definetly win, due to superior physical abilities and armor. But, if this was more along the lines of a comic book (you know, evil genius that has a plan, evil henchmen and so on….), Red Skull would have the advantage due to much better intellect (and being half crazed and all). Really depends on the type of duel we are having….
- the pondering fool
October 31, 2009
#36
Plus the writer of the comic and who he is biased towards. I would be interested in knowing the plot behind it.
Do they already know eachother?
Is MC after RS?
Is RS after MC?
What type of henchmen?
Where does it take place?
Where is the UNSC in all of this?
What are each other’s tactics?
ect…?
October 31, 2009
#37
WAIT! Wouldn’t a comic book setting be an unfair feild advantage because you can’t have the main character (in this case RS) die?
November 4, 2009
#38
“Red Skull would have the advantage due to much better intellect ”
are you saying he lacks that now?
December 12, 2009
#39
MC has Red Skull for breakfast, then.
And once MC kills Red Skull, he wouldn’t care about RS’s reincarnation. That’s him for you. Sure, he kills guilty spark once, and guilty spark never appears on his life again
December 12, 2009
#40
“MC has Red Skull for breakfast, then.
And once MC kills Red Skull, he wouldn’t care about RS’s reincarnation. That’s him for you. Sure, he kills guilty spark once, and guilty spark never appears on his life again”
Just another fanboy screaming MC wins, without giving any form reason why, but i suppose where lucky in a way, since if he did give a scenario it would probably be stupid like MC calls in a carrier to glass red skull.
December 13, 2009
#41
I wouldn’t count the Skull out so easily. True he would lose to his pysically superior opponent (Through to Skulls credit he has shown to be highly skilled in hand-to-hand combat), he does have a genius to rival Dr.Doom.
He’s made bio-weapons that manage to kill people mere seconds after exposure. He made a weapon which killed everyone at Mt.Rushmore.
So while he may not have the physique, he just might have the resources.
December 13, 2009
#42
““Red Skull would have the advantage due to much better intellect ”
are you saying he lacks that now?”
No mate, I am saying Red Skull has the superior intellect compared to MC. That is all.
“I wouldn’t count the Skull out so easily. True he would lose to his pysically superior opponent (Through to Skulls credit he has shown to be highly skilled in hand-to-hand combat), he does have a genius to rival Dr.Doom.
He’s made bio-weapons that manage to kill people mere seconds after exposure. He made a weapon which killed everyone at Mt.Rushmore.”
Well, for most duels it is standard equipment. What would Red Skull standard “weapons of doom” be on his person? I do hope for some seemingly underestimated looking button, that when press, drops a nuke on MC and killing everyone in the process (except for RS, he survives by just being very ugly…)
- the pondering fool
December 13, 2009
#43
He normally carries around a fake cigarrete which contains ‘dust of death’. It kills people, leaving them with a shrivelled red skull.
December 13, 2009
#44
“isnt red skull able to make cosmic cube’s devices that can alter reality itself”
With some massive prep and help.
May 15, 2010
#45
I’m assuming there is some kind of filtration system in the suit which would render the “dust of death” rather useless.