I would say the demi-god version of Kratos to keep it fair.

his armor that nulls, projectiles stops it.

@Darkbladex96
Kratos may have the golden fleece, but he still has to think about using it before it activates.

@Marche
I know that, even in God of War 3 Kratos isn’t a God any longer so mortal weapons do work on him.

MC just needs to keep his distance (like 50 meters) from Kratos if he wants a shot at winning.

Golden Fleece also requires Kratos to catch and throw back each and every projectile he wants to not get hit with. Bullets are just too fast for him to catch and too great in their rate of fire for him to catch them all.

@inanimateobjectseverywhere!
You can’t use,”Even if Kratos loses he can still come back” argument because once he dies, MC wins the fight. This isn’t a three round match, it’s just one.

“Who ever said that he’s gonna be that stupid????? I nominate Kratos for the not easy but it will happen FactPile Award.”

It’s called ignorance, Kratos doesn’t know what a gun is and has no idea of it’s capabilities. The same thing happened in the MC vs. The Avatar debate, Aang has no knowledge of MC weapon, so he is most likely going to be killed by it.

@ OA
kratos doesnt have to catch them to activate the fleece, just be aware and gaurd, the other part is the damaging counter attack that would require kratos to catch the projectile.

@thesorrow
aang had a reason to be oblivious to firearms kratos was god of war at point which entitled him to all knowlegde of every conflict and moment of warfare past present and future. so he should be well aware of what a firearm does.
if i cannot find the source of this info i will withdraw this claim.

cool little tidbit of info i picked up, kratos is the most powerful demi-god, he kills hercules in GOW3 who is suppose to be stronger. also if i have info on things in GOW3 can i use that as well i know some the the weapons and magic in the game.

@Darkbladex96
That is indeed true, but that does not mean he knows how to deal with firearms effectively.

Why would it have to be a bronze weapon to kill Kratos? That makes no sense. Kratos is not immortal because he can still be killed, that also goes for the Olympians considering how many he has killed already.

I nominate Kratos for the FactPile Award.

@ inanimateobjectseverywhere!
Whoa whoa! Hold your horses bub! We still aren’t sure whether or not a bullets could harm Kratos.

Oh yeah OriginalA brings up a good point, regular traps hurt Kratos quite well so a bullet could easily.

“The golden fleece doesn’t cover Kratos’s entire body. In game mechanics sure it allows him to block everything, but in the real world it would leave large areas of his body open.”

which wouldnt matter much, seeing as magic spits at real world rules, hed pretty much only have to guard against the barrage of bullets and the magic of the fleece takes over.

“Sure you can. HIs previous powers were the powers of the god of war, who was killed, which in turn means that those powers to not include true immortality (the inability to die by any means), so even a godly Kratos would be able to die. If he were not able to than it would be probable that neither too would the gods that he is trying to kill, which would make the story moot. Regardless he doesn’t have access to those powers as they are traped in the sword.”

i used the wrong word choice what would you call a being that can only be killed by others with mystical properties like them? thats what im getting at. im thinking there immortals similar to the highlander variety.

also imma looking up info about the blade and what ive learned is that when kratos weaken zeus with the blade zeus, he shrank down to mortal size, but he got his drained powers back after regaining the sword which may very well mean that kratos powers are returned when he reobtained get the blade of olympus. since the game ends there, not an illogical conclusion.

“Moving on, Kratos can be killed by more than just bronze weapons. A medusa’s tail, a minators’ axe, a skelaton’s random sword all do the trick. Giant bolders, iron spikes, fire work too. Tooth and claws hurt him. I’m more than willing to bet that a bullet could do some damage too.”

im not surprised that those things hurt him they are mythical creatures, and he was mortal, when spikes and the boulders and traps all happen.

i see what you guys are saying but theres proof that the blade of olympus returns powers and as gods they either are immortal or posses vast endurance, zeus was stabbed three times in the gut by the blade of olympus, a weapon he forged to kill immortals.

i was pretty sure that that was gonna get debunked. but how do you suppose MC defend against the army or hades or break kratos’ army of sparta.

“(bang!) gameplay is not cannon. since he has done no real feats outside of gameplay this fact is thrown out.”

*lays shield out in front*
not going on gameplay. im going on the fact that it is a magic item which trumpts real physics. in actuality it just a bracelet, but the magic of the bracelet allows any projectile the wearer gaurds against to be harmlessly deflected. your gonna have have to prove that kratos has to manually deflect each bullet with the actual bracelet.

*allows bullet to hit*
“which may very well mean that kratos powers are returned when he reobtained get the blade of olympus. ”
“(bang!) the keyword in that word is MAY, it was not proven so it isn’t cannon.”

we’ll find out on the 16th.

*Shifts shield to new area*
“im not surprised that those things hurt him they are mythical creatures, and he was mortal, when spikes and the boulders and traps all happen.”
“(bang!bang!bang!) it doesn’t matter if they’re mythical creatures they don’t posses blessed bronze weapons so your theory is debunked.”

its not my theory but the foundation of all media interpretations of mythology, mythical creatures, magical beings, immortals, and blessed weapons have always been able to harm each other, where mortal weapons utterly fail unless weilded by mythical creatures. but he has no immortality unless proven otherwise from the beginning of GOW3.

*takes another shot*
“theres proof that the blade of olympus returns powers”
(holds fire) please present this “proof” otherwise i’m considering this your interpretation and throwing it out as well.”

that came from what i knew of the game and a piece of faulty info, i was about to withdraw that but you beat me to it.

The traps and bolders were in GoW 1 in the temple of pandora (or whatever they called it; the death complex that housed the Box). That right there proves that Kratos can be killed by non-magical, non-mystical, non-divine means… a bullet would work.

The fleece is not shown to produce a magical shield barrier thing that covers his body. What we do see when he uses it is him either physically blocking attacks with the fleece itself, or hiim catching a projectlie and throwing it back. In both cases it would leave Kratos’s body open to attacks that he cannot react due to their speed. Additionally even by your claim of its ability, which isn’t fully backed by the canon, it still relies on Kratos being able to block before the projectile gets to him. Since guns are basically “bang and you’re dead” he wouldn’t have time to block after the bullet is fired, so the only way to protect himself would be to always be blocking, but during that time he cannot attack. So basically it becomes a stand off between Kratos blocking and John waiting for him to not be blocking. John could easily move to provoke Kratos, which isn’t hard, and then shoot him when he responds.

Kratos killed a titan, that is all. Fight over.

and about post 29

his entire body actually glows gold when the fleece is used, he is able to block and return mist like attacks with the fleece. which would be impossible if he had to use the fleece or his swords.

ive played the entire halo and god of war series and i say kratos would need to keep laying out army of sparta as it damages all on map and renders kratos invincible assuming he already had posidions conch shell he could keep this up indefenetly … or he could use the bow of apollo with daelalus schematic and charg the bow while behind cover and catch him on fire and then shoot the hell out of that bow i could go on about more ways of killing the cheif but i think we get the general idea

ok one thing, Kratos is the new god of war…it’s like a robot fighting a guy who could control metal.

So let’s get this straight: this is fair.

The contestants START 300 meters/within sniper range, Master Chief STARTS in a sniper’s optimum position, AND he already knows where Kratos is and/or Kratos does not know where he is. Second, he has ONLY three weapons to switch between, so let’s say BR, Sniper Rifle, and hell…Energy Sword.

Now, come on, let’s be logical. Kratos will have the close-range advantage, Chief will have the long-range advantage. Now, the GoW fanboy is prompting me to just diss everyone – you are talking about a man who has taken ARROWS, BOULDERS, MINOTAUR AXES (creatures that are probably three or four times stronger than Halo Brutes, and even then smaller than MOST of the creatures Kratos fights). You say Kratos is too slow for a bullet? He can DODGE LIGHTNING BOLTS from the King Of Gods HIMSELF, and can use the Golden Fleece at a rate FAST ENOUGH to reflect those same bolts – not to say MC will be an idiot and INTENTIONALLY shoot the Fleece when shots are ineffective, but it is very likely Kratos can close the distance, and you all act like BoC give him poor range, last I checked, those chains he carries were long enough for him to SWING from precipices, hooks, wall ornaments, cliffs, and other minor things that jut from surfaces.

Last I checked, LIGHTNING/ELECTRICITY/THUNDER, all three are much faster than a bullet. Forgive me if I’m wrong. But at least Google it before you say I’m wrong.

Now, Chief with the BR can be countered, you are talking about a man with enough strength, willpower, and endurance to survive being CRUSHED BETWEEN A TITAN’S HANDS/ARMS, and don’t quote me on this MC Fanboys, but not even MASTER CHIEF’S SHIELDS COULD STAND UP TO GOING THROUGH WHAT ATLAS PUT KRATOS THROUGH IN GOD OF WAR.

We could put SO many circumstances as to why the BR could HIT Kratos, so many situations, but come on, the man has taken FAR WORSE GRIEVANCES. People survive bullets from rifles (Dick Cheney > Harry Whittington), handguns, and hell, even shotguns. People DON’T SURVIVE (even if for a brief moment) COLOSSUS-SIZED STATUES falling on them and utterly flattening them. People DON’T SURVIVE getting TASERED (tasered yes, but with TWENTY SECONDS OF RAW ELECTRICITY?) with surges of electricity like the one Hephaestus zapped Kratos with in GoW3?

I am PRETTY SURE Kratos can take a bullet, if not several, it would hurt, don’t get me wrong, but seriously, you people act like a paper cut would bleed him dry.

And then the other thing, NO DUH TRAPS KILL HIM. I think, Kratos, who solves puzzles and, if he does fail, WOULD BE KILLED by SPIKES lodging themselves in his gullet. MASTER CHIEF probably would too, don’t give me “his agility wouldn’t put him in that situation”, we’re saying that Chief has been DELIBERATELY caught in a trap that GoW has. His shields can be busted down by lots of things, not just plasma, spikes and enough constant pressures would end the shield bit and from there its simply how long his armor holds out, bulletproof or not.

Master Chief cannot SURVIVE a fall from 40-50m (you know all those times we’ve jumped off a cliff even if there was ground underneath, or fall-suicided?), Kratos in GoWII jumped from multiple cliffs, survived essentially being tossed who knows HOW many stories by Zeus in the final boss fight and landed on ONE KNEE with a sword in harm. This is another sign of his physical endurance.

Let’s not forget all of the crazy falls and distances in GoWIII, such as jumping into Tartarus, leaping from Titans to platforms, etc.

Now, don’t get me wrong, Kratos may not be a bullet-timer (sans the Boots of Hermes which if used effectively outside of gameplay limitations would make him as fast as Hermes), but once again, feats of endurance and strength lead me to believe a bullet would not do much to him.

Now the Energy Sword. Let’s see…plasma versus mythological metal that has carved through a Titan’s stomach, a giant metal framework’s magically glowing eyes and copperwork, the hide of an extremely pissed off sea monster, and the hides of numerous monstrous creatures (and enough to make even the King of Gods chafe in GoWII). I’m going with the mythological metal, however, mythology versus science-fiction is hard to contrast to begin with.

Basic/starting equipment?

Master Chief = Pistol, MJOLNIR MARK VI/VII, Motion Tracker, (He does not START OUT with Cortana – think of the novels, he also goes without her for the latter half of Halo 2 and most of Halo 3 until the last two or three levels)

Kratos = Blades of Chaos.

Standard Equipment:

Master Chief

AR, Sniper Rifle, Grenades (up to four frags), and MJOLNIR armor, as well as Cortana.

http://h.imagehost.org/0721/god_of_war.jpg self-explanotory

Considering that Kratos gets godly weapons, chief should be able to use FR and Covie weapons. If so, Kratos’s chain blade swords can try and fail against energy swords weilded akimbo style.

@Overlord
Ok now its Official You Sir Are an Ignoramus of most Epic Proportions

“Considering that Kratos gets godly weapons, chief should be able to use FR and Covie weapons. If so, Kratos’s chain blade swords can try and fail against energy swords weilded akimbo style.”

Pretty sure that Kratos’s Godly weps are Standard Equip while FR and Covie weps Are NOT so No MC doesn’t get Fr and Covie weps

“Sure Kratos can take a bullet but what about PLASMA and SPLASERS?”
Irrellevent MC doesn’t get Plasma or Lasers they are not standard equip

“I don’t know if this will influence anyone’s decison but watch who won on THE SAME matchup from a completely different site. (It’s the right episode, watch the first minute).”
Different site Different people Ultimately Irrelevent

I will say it again………….You Idiot

http://browse.deviantart.com/?q=kratos vs&order=9&offset=48#/d17se64 self explanatory again!

“Different site Different people Ultimately Irrelevent

I will say it again………….You Idiot”

My point was he’s won before, he can do it again. I will repeat myself for siggyspecialcase “You Retard” comprende? >:)

master chief snipes him down
-ci