I would say the demi-god version of Kratos to keep it fair.

his armor that nulls, projectiles stops it.

@Darkbladex96
Kratos may have the golden fleece, but he still has to think about using it before it activates.

@Marche
I know that, even in God of War 3 Kratos isn’t a God any longer so mortal weapons do work on him.

MC just needs to keep his distance (like 50 meters) from Kratos if he wants a shot at winning.

Golden Fleece also requires Kratos to catch and throw back each and every projectile he wants to not get hit with. Bullets are just too fast for him to catch and too great in their rate of fire for him to catch them all.

@inanimateobjectseverywhere!
You can’t use,”Even if Kratos loses he can still come back” argument because once he dies, MC wins the fight. This isn’t a three round match, it’s just one.

“Who ever said that he’s gonna be that stupid????? I nominate Kratos for the not easy but it will happen FactPile Award.”

It’s called ignorance, Kratos doesn’t know what a gun is and has no idea of it’s capabilities. The same thing happened in the MC vs. The Avatar debate, Aang has no knowledge of MC weapon, so he is most likely going to be killed by it.

@ OA
kratos doesnt have to catch them to activate the fleece, just be aware and gaurd, the other part is the damaging counter attack that would require kratos to catch the projectile.

@thesorrow
aang had a reason to be oblivious to firearms kratos was god of war at point which entitled him to all knowlegde of every conflict and moment of warfare past present and future. so he should be well aware of what a firearm does.
if i cannot find the source of this info i will withdraw this claim.

cool little tidbit of info i picked up, kratos is the most powerful demi-god, he kills hercules in GOW3 who is suppose to be stronger. also if i have info on things in GOW3 can i use that as well i know some the the weapons and magic in the game.

@Darkbladex96
That is indeed true, but that does not mean he knows how to deal with firearms effectively.

Why would it have to be a bronze weapon to kill Kratos? That makes no sense. Kratos is not immortal because he can still be killed, that also goes for the Olympians considering how many he has killed already.

I nominate Kratos for the FactPile Award.

@ inanimateobjectseverywhere!
Whoa whoa! Hold your horses bub! We still aren’t sure whether or not a bullets could harm Kratos.

Oh yeah OriginalA brings up a good point, regular traps hurt Kratos quite well so a bullet could easily.

“The golden fleece doesn’t cover Kratos’s entire body. In game mechanics sure it allows him to block everything, but in the real world it would leave large areas of his body open.”

which wouldnt matter much, seeing as magic spits at real world rules, hed pretty much only have to guard against the barrage of bullets and the magic of the fleece takes over.

“Sure you can. HIs previous powers were the powers of the god of war, who was killed, which in turn means that those powers to not include true immortality (the inability to die by any means), so even a godly Kratos would be able to die. If he were not able to than it would be probable that neither too would the gods that he is trying to kill, which would make the story moot. Regardless he doesn’t have access to those powers as they are traped in the sword.”

i used the wrong word choice what would you call a being that can only be killed by others with mystical properties like them? thats what im getting at. im thinking there immortals similar to the highlander variety.

also imma looking up info about the blade and what ive learned is that when kratos weaken zeus with the blade zeus, he shrank down to mortal size, but he got his drained powers back after regaining the sword which may very well mean that kratos powers are returned when he reobtained get the blade of olympus. since the game ends there, not an illogical conclusion.

“Moving on, Kratos can be killed by more than just bronze weapons. A medusa’s tail, a minators’ axe, a skelaton’s random sword all do the trick. Giant bolders, iron spikes, fire work too. Tooth and claws hurt him. I’m more than willing to bet that a bullet could do some damage too.”

im not surprised that those things hurt him they are mythical creatures, and he was mortal, when spikes and the boulders and traps all happen.

i see what you guys are saying but theres proof that the blade of olympus returns powers and as gods they either are immortal or posses vast endurance, zeus was stabbed three times in the gut by the blade of olympus, a weapon he forged to kill immortals.

i was pretty sure that that was gonna get debunked. but how do you suppose MC defend against the army or hades or break kratos’ army of sparta.

“(bang!) gameplay is not cannon. since he has done no real feats outside of gameplay this fact is thrown out.”

*lays shield out in front*
not going on gameplay. im going on the fact that it is a magic item which trumpts real physics. in actuality it just a bracelet, but the magic of the bracelet allows any projectile the wearer gaurds against to be harmlessly deflected. your gonna have have to prove that kratos has to manually deflect each bullet with the actual bracelet.

*allows bullet to hit*
“which may very well mean that kratos powers are returned when he reobtained get the blade of olympus. ”
“(bang!) the keyword in that word is MAY, it was not proven so it isn’t cannon.”

we’ll find out on the 16th.

*Shifts shield to new area*
“im not surprised that those things hurt him they are mythical creatures, and he was mortal, when spikes and the boulders and traps all happen.”
“(bang!bang!bang!) it doesn’t matter if they’re mythical creatures they don’t posses blessed bronze weapons so your theory is debunked.”

its not my theory but the foundation of all media interpretations of mythology, mythical creatures, magical beings, immortals, and blessed weapons have always been able to harm each other, where mortal weapons utterly fail unless weilded by mythical creatures. but he has no immortality unless proven otherwise from the beginning of GOW3.

*takes another shot*
“theres proof that the blade of olympus returns powers”
(holds fire) please present this “proof” otherwise i’m considering this your interpretation and throwing it out as well.”

that came from what i knew of the game and a piece of faulty info, i was about to withdraw that but you beat me to it.

The traps and bolders were in GoW 1 in the temple of pandora (or whatever they called it; the death complex that housed the Box). That right there proves that Kratos can be killed by non-magical, non-mystical, non-divine means… a bullet would work.

The fleece is not shown to produce a magical shield barrier thing that covers his body. What we do see when he uses it is him either physically blocking attacks with the fleece itself, or hiim catching a projectlie and throwing it back. In both cases it would leave Kratos’s body open to attacks that he cannot react due to their speed. Additionally even by your claim of its ability, which isn’t fully backed by the canon, it still relies on Kratos being able to block before the projectile gets to him. Since guns are basically “bang and you’re dead” he wouldn’t have time to block after the bullet is fired, so the only way to protect himself would be to always be blocking, but during that time he cannot attack. So basically it becomes a stand off between Kratos blocking and John waiting for him to not be blocking. John could easily move to provoke Kratos, which isn’t hard, and then shoot him when he responds.