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Master Chief vs Ironman

I have to admit that when I got the suggestion of putting Ironman against Master Chief, I thought MC would wipe the floor. Since I didn’t know much about Ironman, when I did some research, I came away very impressed with what he can do.

I think this makes the battle much closer and quite possibly deliver MC’s first setback, but I’ll let you, the audience, decide their fate.

Master Chief:

  • Various weapon skills
  • Regenerating Shields
  • Multiple Vehicle selection
  • Lone Wolf Mentality
  • Super Cool Armor

Ironman:

  • Superhuman Strength
  • Virtual Invulnerability
  • Flight
  • Suit can Convert nearby Energy Sources (Like MC’s Shield?)
  • Repulsor Rays
  • Holographic Generator

So, This looks like an extremely close fight: Who wins?

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391 Comments
  • Forward Unto Dawn
    December 12, 2009
    #1

    In a skirmish first-time, MC has the advantage. He has the training, the experience. As for weaponry, why don’t we all check up how effective an Assault Rifle is! It is ineffective only because it overpenetrates. So we have bullets being pumped through Ironman’s suit.
    If it comes to strength, Ironman has the upper hand. But while Ironman could pull MC’s helmet off, he can’t prevent MC from borrowing an energy sword and slicing him into two. That much is apparent.

    Put Ironman in a Covenant assault carrier, and he may not be able to get out alive. Stuff MC in, though, and there he is, well and healthy!

  • midnite marauder
    December 12, 2009
    #2

    @Forward Unto Dawn- Your entire post is made up of bullshit and lies. First MC’s assault rifle use bullets no different from modern day rifles the ammo being 7.62 meaning completely ineffective against his armour. Second nothing in MC’s armour can even scratch the paint on Iron Mans suit. Third Iron Man would not waste his time trying to pull of his helmet when he can destroy MC with anyone of his numerous weapons. And Last Iron Man doesn’t need to board the craft since he can rip it apart with his bear hands. So unless you can provide proof for your statements get the fuck out of here you lying troll fanboy.

  • shaun182
    December 12, 2009
    #3

    i’ve got to agree with MM here,

    Your scenario is based absolute rubbish and lies, stating an assault rifle can break through armor, that took a tank round leaving it barely scratched, as well giving MC access to everyone weapon from halo, which he wouldnt have.

  • masterchiefwillwin
    January 7, 2010
    #4

    mc will win handsdown cuz iron man doznt have super human strenth he just haz a suit master chief duz however and cortana iz smarter than jarviz or whatever hiz name iz not to mention bubble shield or and other of the equipment mc could kill anyone really

  • randomguy
    January 17, 2010
    #5

    mastercheifwillwin
    your post was so fucking hard to read jeez just write normally

  • sonofhades
    February 14, 2010
    #6

    okay this match would be funny to watch because ironman would be thrown around like a ragdoll and the master chief will just laugh and keep throwing iron man around all over the place……then cortana goes and shuts down tony’s iron man suit and then the mc holds up iron man takes two plasma grenades and sticks them to starks helmet then throws him through the air and iron man goes boom :)

  • Anonymous
    February 14, 2010
    #7

    WE ARE NOT AMMUSED SONOFHADES, WE…ARE…NOT…..AMUSED

    P.S.
    Iron man wins easy

  • bman83
    February 16, 2010
    #8

    Ok, first off you have to go by the Halo books not the game. In the books MC is larger and stronger than iron man. Secondly once the Spartans recieve full upgrades to thier armor they also virtually indestructable. Furthermore unlike the game the Spartans can run roughly 80 mph and have reaction times at roughly 10 milliseconds. (Basically able to dodge bullets) Most importantly as someone already stated MC has Cortana, a futuristic AI super computer that could Easily hack into Tony’s armor and shut it down, probably even make it do whatever she wanted it to. Without Cortana though it would be a pretty fair fight.

  • Nintendopwns
    February 16, 2010
    #9

    I’m sorry but Cortana is outside help and saying she can hack because just because is not a good enough reason.
    They come from different universes time is not relative to the tech at all.

    Oh gee he can run roughly 80 mph big whoop.
    Iron man can easily go mach 1.2 and higher.

    Iron Man’s standard offensive weapons have always been the repulsor rays that are fired from the palms of his gauntlets. Other weapons built into various incarnations of the armor include: the uni-beam projector in its chest; pulse bolts

    (that pick up on kinetic energy along the way; so the farther they travel, the harder they hit); an electromagnetic pulse generator; and a defensive energy shield that can be extended up to 360 degrees.

    Other capabilities include: generating ultra-freon (i.e., a freeze-beam); creating and manipulating magnetic fields; emitting sonic blasts; and projecting 3-dimensional holograms (to create decoys).

  • Asger
    February 16, 2010
    #10

    IM is far stronger then Master Chief. I’m qute confident that he could beat MC senseless without firing a single blast. 100 ton strength level.

  • Nintendopwns
    February 16, 2010
    #11

    One punch should do it.
    I nominate Ironman for Factpile award.

  • Marche
    February 16, 2010
    #12

    Ironman is a pretty cool guy.
    eh gets beaten into a coma and gets shot down by afghani militants and doesn’t afraid of anything.

  • midnite marauder
    February 16, 2010
    #13

    Why doens’t Iron Man have the FP award yet? I nominate Iron Man FTW via pulling MC inside out through his ass.

  • Marche
    February 16, 2010
    #14

    Ok see,as a marvel fan let me correct everyone.

    Does anyone keep up with Ironman?Cause last i checked,he was deleting his mind,infact his mind is so far gone he can’t properly pilot most of his suits.
    his last good suit was shot down by a militant group,where he had to then dawn his mark zero armor(the big bulky one,aka the very first ironman suit.)

    Anyways,He isn’t winning this with a punch nor is he going to pull MC inside out his ass.

    Anyone who is interested as to his current affairs,he was beaten down by osborn,and now they are working on rebooting his mind.

  • Nintendopwns
    February 16, 2010
    #15

    :/ If you are going to do that we should include the in stasis MasterChief as current.

  • midnite marauder
    February 16, 2010
    #16

    Well if he’s a vegetable then he looses but MC’s fate is technically debated and its still unknown if the legendary is a easter egg or not so until its proven its a vegetable vs a dead man. Yippy Ki Yay!

  • bman83
    February 16, 2010
    #17

    In his peak I suppose I will admit that IronMan will win but not the landslide that some say it would be. In any case a better match up I think would be MC versus Captain America. Both are genetically enhanced supersoldiers.

  • Marche
    February 16, 2010
    #18

    Whats the point?
    It would be a tie since both characters are incapacitated.

    Though i have given thought to this rule,though i don’t think if someone was last seen knocked out,that version should be used.

  • midnite marauder
    February 16, 2010
    #19

    @bman83-That match has already been posted and in his prime Iron Man would tear MC’s arms and us them to pull his heart out of his chest.

  • EnigmaJ
    February 16, 2010
    #20

    “Though i have given thought to this rule,though i don’t think if someone was last seen knocked out,that version should be used.”

    I think this basically what we’ve always done, despite the rule. If a character has already died, for example, it’s obvious we’d use the version where they were last in full health.

    “In any case a better match up I think would be MC versus Captain America. Both are genetically enhanced supersoldiers.”

    http://www.factpile.com/master-chief-vs-captain-america.htm#comments

  • Nintendopwns
    February 16, 2010
    #21

    Soo now what both in Prime or tie?
    I so hate ties.

  • midnite marauder
    February 16, 2010
    #22

    I’m with EnigmaJ on this. Being a vegetable is equatable to being dead in a match up since you can’t fight back and with MC in stasis or dead we use them both when they are in their prime so it was actually kind of pointless for you to even bring that up.

  • Nintendopwns
    February 16, 2010
    #23

    Marche was just trying to sneak a win for MC…
    So we are agreed that Iron Man wins factpile award?

  • Marche
    February 16, 2010
    #24

    I think he meant the last time they WEREN’T incapcitated,not thier prime.
    MC last time had perfectly working armor(as far as i remember,haven’t played the campaign in over a year) and ironman pre-coma had Mark zero.
    So that would be the fighters.

  • Marche
    February 16, 2010
    #25

    I think he meant the last time they WEREN’T incapcitated,not their prime.
    MC last time had perfectly working armor(as far as i remember,haven’t played the campaign in over a year) and ironman pre-coma had Mark zero.
    So that would be the fighters.

  • midnite marauder
    February 16, 2010
    #26

    +1 nomination here

  • Marche
    February 16, 2010
    #27

    My bad double post.

  • Marche
    February 16, 2010
    #28

    “Marche was just trying to sneak a win for MC…”

    Firstly,why would i care if MC had one less/more FP award?i don’t come on the mainsite all that much as it is,and a fictional character winning a battle wouldn’t have any effect on me in anyway.

    Seconly, Anyone who knows me best would know i am a bigger Marvel fan than anything,so i wouldn’t want one against a marvel character.Alas rules is rules.

  • midnite marauder
    February 16, 2010
    #29

    Even so Marche his first suit still wins because

    1. It’s capable of flight giving it a speed and positional advantage.

    2. Its armed with superior firearms to MC’s MA5B-C

    3. It’s impervious to to all weapons utilized by MC except rocket launchers and the splazr which he doesn’t get.

    So combine all these together and MC is still a dead duck.

  • Marche
    February 16, 2010
    #30

    1. No its not,all he can do is jump really high via air pressure.

    2.Miniature hacksaws? ok thats nice.Monobeam?has crappy range. the only thing he has that can help is the magnetic turbo insulators.

    3.A true point,one that MC may not be able to do anything about.

    This is neglecting Ironmans mental state,and if he will be able to fight competently(admitly i haven’t seen him fight anybody with Mark zero recently.)

  • Nintendopwns
    February 16, 2010
    #31

    We should ask admin what versions we should use.
    This is a crummy fight now.
    Iron Man is more likely to kill himself than MC right now :/
    Maybe he can jump on MC?

  • midnite marauder
    February 16, 2010
    #32

    1. Which equates to greater mobilty still

    2. Don’t care if it equates to at least 7.62 round then its good enough since MC’s newest suit can take to many of those due to reduction in armour for increased speed.

    However in the movie his suits power doesn’t last to long. How does it last in the comic books since I haven’t read those cause that can be a deciding factor.

  • midnite marauder
    February 16, 2010
    #33

    lol a Space Marine can do it maybe Iron Man can too. But I disagree since this puts the match on much more even ground due to Starks not being able to completely steam roll MC in a shower of energy beams.

    However it would be so awesome to see Iron Man use that Proton Cannon from Marvel vs Capcom.

  • Nintendopwns
    February 16, 2010
    #34

    I wanted to have the match to end with MC as a pile of ashes.
    Sounds like this will end up MC running out of ammo and a fist fight starting so…
    What is the mark 0′s strength instead of the good old 100 tons?

  • Marche
    February 16, 2010
    #35

    1.Again,with his deterioating mental state it might not even help him much.

    2.If he gets close he could use the monobeam or hacksaws,don’t i don’t see him trying to do that.

    His suits powers last plenty long….Usually.
    The mark zero armor was powered by some electric generator,infact it lasts just long enough to beat the troops,escape into the jungle,and beat up more communists.After that the suit needed more power.

  • Marche
    February 16, 2010
    #36

    his strength increases ten-fold with the armor on.

  • Nintendopwns
    February 16, 2010
    #37

    Think the armor lasts long enough for him to be punched to death?
    Then Again MC might just doge all the blows..
    Hey does the mark zero have a on board-computer like the other ones?

  • Marche
    February 16, 2010
    #38

    Not that i recall,i have heard it mentioned by other than that is pretty primitive.
    Everything is controlled manually.

  • midnite marauder
    February 16, 2010
    #39

    Well since most marvel humans for some odd reason are defined as peak human and since Tony is a trained fighter he should be able to benchpress 300-400. 400 times 10 is 4,000 pounds. Couple that with his finger mounted hacksaws and in just about every scenario he’ll come out on top.

  • Nintendopwns
    February 16, 2010
    #40

    If that is the case MC wins…damn!
    Stark will go insane before the fight becomes a draw.
    MC can go a long time without food, Stark cannot. Not to mention the power would run out before he has a chance to kill him.
    Damn comic book writers…hmmm.
    Can we use a current Incarnation from a alt time line?If we can Iron Man will win.

  • Marche
    February 16, 2010
    #41

    “Tony is a trained fighter he should be able to benchpress 300-400.”
    But he can’t because he doesn’t exercise that much,and i don’t think he was doing much while his mind was sinking further and further,so i think he would be no stronger than 300.

    Even so,his mind is far gone,while MC is still capable of fighting.Being a spartan i think he has the advantage.

  • EnigmaJ
    February 16, 2010
    #42

    “Can we use a current Incarnation from a alt time line?If we can Iron Man will win.”

    And this is exactly the reason we have the current incarnations rule in the first place.

  • midnite marauder
    February 16, 2010
    #43

    Before we continue I want to know if your exaggerating his mental state just a wee bit cause if his mind is as raped as you say he shouldn’t even be able to turn on his suit let alone use it since its not AI guided.

  • Nintendopwns
    February 16, 2010
    #44

    meh a zombie in a Iron suit vs MC…
    :/ so MC for Factpile award?

  • Marche
    February 16, 2010
    #45

    I am not saying he is a full blown mental patient who needs diapers.
    He just isn’t competent enough to fully use his to its best.
    In actuality,it would be harder to use a suit with complex computer systems then the Mark zero.

  • Nintendopwns
    February 16, 2010
    #46

    So give this to MC and have a rematch later when he is not a vegetable?
    MC will be to resourceful in this fight to lose.
    Brute force only wins when used properly.

  • Marche
    February 16, 2010
    #47

    I beleive Ironman’s mind in “Ironman Saga #1″ was said to be reduced to “less than that of a child”

  • Nintendopwns
    February 16, 2010
    #48

    So they are killing Iron Man off and restarting?
    Unless someone like Mr.Fantastic saves him…

  • Marche
    February 16, 2010
    #49

    No,ironman just did it some Osborn couldn’t get to the secrets he knew.He has a backup.

  • Asger
    February 17, 2010
    #50

    Well, actually IM will be back to normal soon it seems. What with Siege and all.

  • TheGrimHeaper
    March 26, 2010
    #51

    Is he back to normal now so we can give him the award?

  • LKMS
    April 3, 2010
    #52

    It depends on how read you are in the stories.

    If you count in Cortana hacking IM’s suit, yeah its no contest. And I would, as half of the time she is in MC’s armor with him.

    But if you call her as outside help, it comes down to weapons. Reading the books, MC seems to prefer his MA5B, firing 14.5mm rounds along w/ a rocket launcher when he gets close to armored targets (hunters, Shades, wraiths). When encountering lightly armored, he replaces the launcher with a shotgun. So if he knows he’s encountering an armored opponent, he’ll go with the launcher. Not to mention a few grenades, etc. Going with that…

    His reaction time is far faster than IM, nearly 10milliseconds. And IM’s Mach 1+ speed only comes when he’s flying, other than that he’s just extraordinarily fast. But not at the level of MC. His armor is harder, but has no shields. On the topic of weapons, IM’s main is his palm-energy blasts. However, its been shown that MJOLNIR armor can take several plasma shots straight to the chest before even allowing a Spartan to be injured at all. Couple the fact that his armor can take around 5 plasma hits, not counting shields, and that he is almost fast enough to dodge bullets, it all comes down to whether or not MC can penetrate IM’s armor. I’d say no, unless he happened to have some covenant weapons or plasma grenades. So it is so even, no one can guess who’d win. Just depends if MC happened to have more high-powered weapons on hand. With just his normal weapons, he can’t kill IM, but IM still can’t kill him…

    Too Even.

  • oliver mendonca
    April 7, 2010
    #53

    mc had army traing since he was 6. and went to war when he was 12 and later on at the same age the army maid him take a drug whitch maid him faster/stronger/smater. at the age of 14 he got given the armor whitch maid him a little more stronger and faster. so he can take iron man out because iron man did not even have army traing. and mc armor is more advanced as well because it is set 500 years in the futer. if mc did not have the armor it would be a fair fight for iron man

  • oliver mendonca
    April 7, 2010
    #54

    and mc has the better armor but it does not have guns like iron man does but mc armor is still stronger and better

  • Misakian
    April 12, 2010
    #55

    It is a close fight. MC can run pretty fast, but iron man can fly. And iron man’s repulsor rays are based on impact, so it doesn’t matter how strong MCs armor is. I’d say iron man wins

  • Blackend
    April 20, 2010
    #56

    Iron man definatley has Master Chief outgunned. He wouldn’t have to get close to Master Chief at all to engage. If he did though, Master Chief could rip him apart. being that he is a superhuman with that has been trained for war since he was 6 years old. Range trumps strength any day though.

  • JoshMcFace
    April 20, 2010
    #57

    @Blackend

    Iron Man is capable of lifting about 100 tons, in comparison to Chief’s 2-3. The fact that MC can apparently ‘flip tanks’ is a common argument, but that is a mere game mechanic, unless you want to argue that ODSTs can also do so. It’s a moot point anyway, as Scorpions only way in at 66 tons.

    Iron Man on the other hand…

    http://yfrog.com/6w33a6gt2j

  • Darkbladex96
    April 20, 2010
    #58

    “mc had army traing since he was 6. and went to war when he was 12 and later on at the same age the army maid him take a drug whitch maid him faster/stronger/smater. at the age of 14 he got given the armor whitch maid him a little more stronger and faster. so he can take iron man out because iron man did not even have army traing. and mc armor is more advanced as well because it is set 500 years in the futer. if mc did not have the armor it would be a fair fight for iron man”

    what are to talking about? Iron mans armor is superior in every way. manueverability, portability, weapons, loadout, armor, shielding

  • halo fan
    April 24, 2010
    #59

    mc will win cause mc hass some over sheilds and iron man only has like one or two weapons.

  • Asger
    April 24, 2010
    #60

    MC doesn’t carry over shields around. And while IM only has the Repulsors and the Uni-Beam (And a 100 ton strength level) they still output way more damage and range then any Halo weapon.

  • ASD
    May 5, 2010
    #61

    No one though cortana can hack through ironman’s shield :/? Cortana is from 2552, iron man is from 2010?

  • Megaraptor18
    May 5, 2010
    #62

    “No one though cortana can hack through ironman’s shield :/? Cortana is from 2552, iron man is from 2010?”

    She is known as outside help therefore she is not in this match

  • TheSorrow
    May 5, 2010
    #63

    Wow it’s amazing how Halo fans like to spout (very crude) information about Halo without any actual knowledge into it. It really makes me sick.

  • Cargo
    May 5, 2010
    #64

    “No one though cortana can hack through ironman’s shield :/? Cortana is from 2552, iron man is from 2010?”

    And since when could Cortana hack from a distance, every time it’s been done with physical contact.

    “Wow it’s amazing how Halo fans like to spout (very crude) information about Halo without any actual knowledge into it. It really makes me sick.”

    Tell me about it, I once had guy claim that the bubble shield could stand up to the Death Star’s Superlaser…

  • Reaper 3fitty
    May 5, 2010
    #65

    MC does not shoot 14.5mm rounds. Those are anti aircarft material. His loadout is the assault rifle (7.62 rounds, same as the AK 47) and the BR. Cortana is outside help since she is a sentient being that has free will.

    And Iron Man is stronger, faster and has better weapons.

    And it doesnt mean shit when MC had training whn he was 6. Still doesnt dampen a uni beam to the face.

  • TheSorrow
    May 5, 2010
    #66

    I am no longer surprised by some of the stupidity Halotics tend let dribble out of their mouths. “The bubble shield can stop any weaponry in Halo, so obviously it could stop a planet destroyer.” Infallible logic.

  • TheSorrow
    May 5, 2010
    #67

    Man just looking over a few Halo supporters’ comments makes me want to puke blood. I officially retract my earlier post about not being surprised anymore. Their lack of reasoning and blind faith continue to astound me.

    One day I am going to have use a Halotic (halo fan, masterchiefwillwin, Foward Unto Dawn, etc.) as a test subject and dissect him to see why they are like this.

  • cjrodarte
    May 6, 2010
    #68

    my router was broken so i had to replace it so i couldn’t post for 2 weeks anyway hmmmmmm……. I saw a similar battle wait never mind that was captain America.I like halo but I’m not one to make up crap to justify MC like a fanboy.

  • cjrodarte
    May 6, 2010
    #69

    it’s good to be back.well so much for the description “lone wolf Mentality” more like insane mentality,he will try to stab MC with his IV or something.

  • Laharl
    May 6, 2010
    #70

    “No one though cortana can hack through ironman’s shield :/? Cortana is from 2552, iron man is from 2010?”Who will win the Zombie from 2552 or the guy with a shotgun in the year 2010?
    The future can be much weaker than the past, so by saying
    “its from the future it’s better” you are being an ignorant d*ck.

  • Laharl
    May 6, 2010
    #71

    Not to mention they live in different universe so the year doesn’t matter.

  • ZomBninjasamurai
    May 6, 2010
    #72

    “Tell me about it, I once had guy claim that the bubble shield could stand up to the Death Star’s Superlaser…”

    no way, you are kidding right?

    … why does Cortana hacking Iron man’s shield matter? he’ll be dead… and why would iron man even need his shield?

  • Cargo
    May 6, 2010
    #73

    “no way, you are kidding right?”

    I am dead serious, a guy said that the bubble shield could stand up to the Superlaser with a completely straight face. Same guy also said that MC could defeat the entire US Military by himself.

    My head still hurts…

  • ZomBninjasamurai
    May 6, 2010
    #74

    “I am dead serious, a guy said that the bubble shield could stand up to the Superlaser with a completely straight face. Same guy also said that MC could defeat the entire US Military by himself.”

    oh, so he was mentally challenged, I get it now… my bad, I thought for a second, someone with a rational mind thought a hand held temporary shield could stand up to a superlaser that can destroy entire planets

  • Laharl
    May 6, 2010
    #75

    “I am dead serious, a guy said that the bubble shield could stand up to the Superlaser with a completely straight face. Same guy also said that MC could defeat the entire US Military by himself.”Laharl could.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u5f2x-x7nY&feature=related
    He even let the humans escape when he could have destroyed the ships faster.

  • Asger
    May 6, 2010
    #76

    Iron Man is currently back in his Mk.2 armour. I don’t think any more debating is needed.

  • angelo
    May 7, 2010
    #77

    master chief would win with the arbider

  • angelo
    May 7, 2010
    #78

    master chief would win with the arbiter

  • shaun182
    May 7, 2010
    #79

    “master chief would win with the arbiter”

    1. how?
    2. you cant bring others into this fight, otherwise ironman would just get the hulk and destroy all of halo.

  • eh
    May 10, 2010
    #80

    ok with iron man in his normal suit this isn’t even fair >.>
    the guy one shots tanks that look like scorpions.

  • Mhm
    May 16, 2010
    #81

    I have to give this one to iron man.

    MC is pretty hardcore, he has shields and is super fast and very strong but iron man is stronger and can fly.

    Then again tony could be drunk and do something stupid enough to let MC kill him.

  • Conman
    May 18, 2010
    #82

    Interesting. I happen to be a fan of both Iron Man and Master Chief. Who wins the fight really, would be very situational, at least given the insane qualities attributed to Iron Man’s suit. Because i’m familiar with it, I will be referring to the version of Iron Man presented in the recent movies. Honestly, Tony Stark survives assaults that should turn him into butter given the description of his armour. I don’t care if his armour is two inches thick of titanium alloy; 30mm cannons from a jet fighter flying towards him, meaning hypersonic 30mm rounds, hitting his armour, should punch holes right through him. The shear force of an impact with the aircraft’s wings at such velocities, even assuming the suit is of a composition stronger than the wing, should instantly kill, or at the least grievously wound the user of the suit. I also like how no one ever thinks of firing straight into his repulsors, or even at his arc reactor. or maybe at those vulnerable looking joint areas with thinner plating. What may be perceived as john’s seemingly lacking performance, is merely a more realistic approach to the depiction of the integrity of the armour he wears. He is a supersoldier, but a man nonetheless. There is no incentive to depict him as an infallible and invulnerable superhero. For shear ability, John has a distinctive upper hand in combat. Perhaps he would not fare so well in a lab tasked to design new weapons and create new technologies, but he is a master of combat tactics, and experienced. His intelligence in strategy on the battlefield, rivals the intelligence of tony stark in engineering. He possesses what any ordinary man, such as tony stark, would observe to be instantaneous reflexes, clocking reaction times of 10 milliseconds. His armour provides him with advanced shielding, targeting, weapon status tracking, and situation awareness, and houses a shipboard AI – Cortana. Before you go off about cortana being an unfair advantage, note that Stark has JARVIS, who manages many of the grueling tasks of managing the complex systems of tony’s armour, including but not limited to the calculation and stabilization of flight path and flight, respectively. Removing JARVIS from the equation, would severely cripple Stark’s ablities, whereas John could easily manage without Cortana and maintain a large degree of his previous combat effectiveness. Even with my limited intelligence and knowledge of battlefield tactics, it is only logical that upon observing stark’s abilities, john would avoid open areas vulnerable to air attack at all costs. Changing vectors rapidly mid-flight while travelling at near sonic or supersonic speeds is not an easy task, especially given areas with ample cover, obstacles, or other such hindrances. The assumption must also be made that John would be able to use his available weapons to maxiumum effect, targeting vulnerable areas, and timing throws of plasma grenades, which would presumably cause severe damage, if not instantaneous death. I trust that firearms have a greater effective range than stark’s repulsors, so making an argument from that point is ridiculous. How about close combat? Stark’s external armour layer doesn’t necessarily need to be destroyed in order for his limbs to sustain damage due to excessive torque. John has been extensively trained in hand to hand combat, and has reaction times of an average 10 milliseconds. For reference, taking into account the time it may take for him to move his body, he would be able to dodge bullets travelling at the speed of sound from a distance of roughly 10-15 metres, fired individually, assuming he is stationary. Stark would not be able to touch him. His claimed superior strength would be effectively nullified. There are three factors of utmost importance in combat between individuals: speed, reaction time, and superior tactics. As long as there is not a truly monumental disparity between the parties’ strength and technology, the side with superior training and response speed is almost definitely favoured. It could be close, but in my opinion, the Chief is slightly favoured, even if only because he doesn’t blindly run into open fire. Over-reliance on the armour is an automatic negative point for Stark.

  • joekerr
    May 23, 2010
    #83

    Oh Gawd this whole discussion is so retarded its hilarious, like watching a cripple fight.

    Ok let me tell you all who might even have thought seriously about this for a split second, something, you CANNOT compare the two suits of armor.

    First of all I must say that I always found Halo’s setting to be extremely underwhelming where techonology is concerned, it’s 500 years into the future and they’re still using ballistic weaponry, the UNSC has no efective energy weapons (except for the spartan laser), no artificial gravity, no energy shielding, (the mjolnir armor shielding was reverse engineered from downed covenant elites), with the exception of slipspace travel, the technology in Halo looks like it could actually be possible in barely 70 years, maybe a 100 tops. Let’s take a closer look at the Mjolnir armor, with the exception of the energy shields which are powered by sci-fi mumbo-jumbo (aka important plot point) it’s a surprisingly realistic piece of hardware, I can easily think of a reason for that, there’s a lot of physicists working at bungie, helping with the design of the game engine, calculating how a bullet should behave, how far a proyectile should reach, etc, these guys are obviously, geeks who love sci-fi, read comics and watch star-trek and buffy, they are also, obviously, very creative, and in their free time, they probably come up with all sorts of stuff about the background of the halo universe, which of course includes the armor, and eventually that stuff becomes canon. So MC’s armor, is actually pretty realistic, very scientific, so much that it could almost be possible.

    Now let’s have a look at Iron Man’s armor, his armor comes from the mind of a1960′s comic book writer who knew next to nothing about physics, in his first incarnation Iron Man’s armor was powered by a miraculous new technology called “transistors” Stan Lee had no idea what transistors were, but he knew that they allowed the incredible feat of reducing the cabinet sized radios of his youth to portable pocket radios, obviously it was some magical thing that could do anything, so he used it as the source tech of Iron Man’s armor. In other words, Iron Man’s armor is not powered by science, but by SCIENCE, in particular COMIC-BOOK SCIENCE, which is a way of saying that its actually magic, but there’s some techonological mumbo-jumbo added in so that it won’t look like its magic. Iron Man’s armor can do pretty much ANYTHING so long as you give it a somewhat techonological explanation, it doesn’t have to make sense it just has to sound vaguely scientific, that is why a suit of armor created in the 1960′s is not only centuries more advanced than a suit of armor developed in 2550, but even more advanced that ANYTHING the Covenant has (and probably even the forerunners). A clear example of this is in his repulsor rays, I mean, What the hell is a repulsor ray? No one knows, it’s a generic-one-size-fits-all term for the magical rays he shoots from his hands, Over the years I’ve seen the nature and behaviour of the rays change according to the needs of the plot and often even in the same comic. Sometimes they are like lasers, sometimes they are more like a concussive force.

    So yeah, Iron Man’s beats the living daylights out of MC with only one hand, literally (I’ve seen repulsor rays do enough damage to stop the equivalent of a wraith).

    TL;DR: MC’s outclassed here, because Iron Man’s armor is powered by SCIENCE BABY!!!

  • joekerr
    May 23, 2010
    #84

    How about Master Chief VS Archer?

    MC has excellent military training an energy shielded suit of armor, is a master tactician, but Archer has UNLIMITED BLADE WORKS!!!

  • BENANA
    June 8, 2010
    #85

    well there are lots of things to take into account, and assumptions have to be made. firstly, lets say MC has an assault rifle + pistol and mark v armour yeah? Iron man has various different inbuilt weapons and defenses in his armour, but MC’s armour is for defensive purposes only. so if IM disarms MC ( which is very likely cos IM has various guns and missiles etc. i think if master chief wanted to win he would have to get up close, because his bio genetically augmented body couple with his MJOLNIR armour and shield would be more than a match for stark’s modern metal suit. that being said, it would be tough for MC to get anywhere near IM because the latter can fly. so really, until someone from bungie and marvel decide, its just guesswork.

  • John-117
    June 11, 2010
    #86

    Before:”Mastercheif wins game over”
    After:”Now let’s have a look at Iron Man’s armor, his armor comes from the mind of a1960’s comic book writer who knew next to nothing about physics[and so on and so forth] ”

    FactPile has come a long way.

  • InvaderErl
    June 18, 2010
    #87

    Not even close, Iron Man will destroy Masterchief.

    Weapons:

    Master Chief traditionally is carrying small arms fire, occasionally a heavy weapon and some Covenant gear which seems more of less on equal footing with his own stuff.

    Traditionally Iron Man relies primarily on his repulsors which can destroy tanks/helicopters/other armored foes with just a single shot, they can hit immediately and do not require a charge up time.

    Iron Man’s repulsors are just too strong and too easy for him to use, he easily outguns Master Chief.

    IM – 1/ Master Chief – 0

    Strength:

    I believe MC’s official strength is something like the ability to lift 2-3 tons. If we take the Scorpion Tank has cannon he’s 66 – but the issue with using gameplay is that in ODST this is an ability as well which throws that figure out the window.

    HOWEVER, to give Master Chief a shot I’ll allow the 66 ton number. Iron Man’s traditional strength is anywhere from 75-100 tons in his current armor. With external sources or in extreme combat suits it can go 100+.

    Iron Man is just stronger than him.

    IM – 2/ Master Chief – 0

    Armor:

    Master Chief’s armor is shown to be tanking damage from small arms fire.

    Iron Man’s armor has taken tank shells and he’s shrugged it off.

    Iron Man – 3 / Master Chief – 0

    Hacking Skills

    Cortana is Master Chief’s greatest advantage here. As an AI I think its safe to assume that she’s a formidable hacker.

    Tony does have fire walls on his armor that he himself has designed and has been shown to be able to hack systems that Reed Richards (Mr. Fantastic) designed so his own self created defense systems are nothing to sneeze at.

    Its difficult to tell if Cortana could hack through them but I’m inclined to say yes given enough time. The issue is that Master Chief doesn’t have that kind of time if Iron Man is blasting him apart piece by piece.

    Also, if this is Extremis era Iron Man when he gained techno powers, he could likely hack Cortana with ease.

    I’ll call this a tie .

    Maneuverability:

    Master Chief is an on-foot soldier with a above average ability to jump.

    Iron Man can go to super sonic speeds and can fly. If he wanted to he could just slam into Master Chief at max speeds and kill him.

    Iron Man – 4 / Master Chief – 0

    Iron Man will destroy Master Chief.

  • WeedWacker
    June 25, 2010
    #88

    MC would win easily, it would not be a close fight
    remember MC is 500 years more advanced than iron man- he can survive several plasma bolts(plasma is so hot that if your anywhere near it you would be dead)

    A plasma rifle is many times more advanced and damaging than anything iron man has and the assault rifle would have bullets that can penetrate right through iron man’s armor.

    MC’s armor would be better than iron mans armor and have a shield.

    MC is just as strong as iron man(he can flip a tank and kill an elite with one hit to the back) an elite could throw a person and MC kills them

    Mc can jump 7ft and his armor+himself weigh over 1000 pounds

    MC was already the strongest, and best at fighting of all people then they augmented him, trained him and put him in the armor, Iron man without armor would not be good at fighting

    the only advantage for iron man is flight but MC could snipe him down

  • Midna
    July 2, 2010
    #89

    anyone think of a gravity hammer? im not really sure (so dont burn me for this) but i think a grav hammer could give IM a small scratch……

    all the bitcy IM fans are tottally gonna burn me for this….. T_T

  • ironman
    July 7, 2010
    #90

    well guys this is like superman you need certain wepons to kill him these are wepons that can kill him
    spartanlaser.
    gravhammer.
    with spartan laser he can quickly doge the repulsrs and then crash his system then a nother blow will kill him same with grav hammer and he can throw a EMP(electcal magnitcal pulse) at him and his out

  • CIDE
    August 1, 2010
    #91

    MC does not stand a chance against Iron Man. Even with shields there is no way. Doesn’t matter what weapons he uses either. That is assuming we are talking about modern Iron Man rather than the original few suits he made. Not only doesn modern Iron Man have much more experience his advancements have been astounding.

    The new Iron Man suit is class 100+. For those of you who don’t know that termiology the number indicates the number of TONS that a character can lift. 100+ is as high as it goes. Superman, Galactus, Hulk, and Magneto are all in Class 100+. That said Iron Man can move (while flying) at super sonic speeds. And the undisclosed alloys in his suit (I believe he’s even used the indestructable adamantium for one such suit) would stand up to anything MC can throw at him.

    Even the grav hammer < against Iron Man's physical strength. He could literally catch it as he swings it with one hand.

    Guys gotta know your stuff before you start throwing out opinions without looking at the facts.

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