“68% chance that they would end up in a high pitched area”

like DSM is stupid enough to swing it places that would cause the symbiote to immediatly jump off him and also where is MC getting his plasma grenades and needlers from thats not his usual equipment but something he steals from covenant dead which there wouldnt be any in 21st century new york

apart from a one time alliance in halo 3 there has been no real sharing of technology and at the end the elites left for the homeworld to heal their wounds and rebuild their society not join the humans in any form co operation

DSM is reckless but that doesnt mean hes stupid if anything he would have more cunning as well as his spider sense if being with a symbiote caused u to lose all sense and just fight anything both venom and carnage would have been killed a long time ago

even if DSM did go in swinging he would end up taking off head first by choosing the battlefield not somewhere its sonic weakness would come it to play then using it webbing to rob MC of his weapons so it would come down to a fist fight that DSM has no real chance of losing and DSM wouldnt be as reckless as when venom attacked spiderman since their isnt a personal element to the battle between DSM vs MC

so if you going by the ending of halo 3 that would mean that MC is in cryo tube outside the rim of the galaxy and in no postion to get left over covenant weapons

i would like to debate more but i gotta get off . Know ones going defend him anyway but that doesnt mean i give up just got to get off.

In any circumstance DSM would win.

Unless MC knows a small amount on his enemy first and is given a Gravity-Hammer, MC is screwed.

If he did have the hammer, the altered gravity around him could stop any incoming webs. If spidey got in close, then he could be bashed around with the gravitational effect combined with swings from the hammer.

@Zeppher-Would you please shut up and stop parroting the same thing over and over again. Yes the symbiots weakness is sound but that sound has to be of a certain frequency. Its not simply a loud bang or anything but a distinct sound or vibration that is damging to the symbiot kind of like how dogs are annoyed by certain sounds we can’t even hear. Now that you got your answer please don’t ask the same question again.

so in light of the overwhelming superiority of DSM i nominate him for the FP award

Well I’d just vote Dark Spiderman, he looks way cooler, plus MC would just be lousy against him

i second the nomination of DSM for fp award

Spidey is fast enough to dodge bullets at close range (Much faster then MC) and has a class 40 strength level with the symbiote (Much stronger then MC) and has the sense that can warn him when MC is going to try and snipe him. MC will fucj up on the first shot, alerting Spiderman, which will lead him to waste all his ammo in his futile attempts to land a shot on Spidey. Then the webbed-wonder will end this fight with one swift punch, cracking open MC’s visor and caving his skull in.

DS for FP award.

im with DSM here.

but can we sent some some ground statistics for MC, that we can all try to agree on.

Since i have seen multiple times MC being said, to be able to lift 70 tons, which i find hard to believe since he is physically weaker to both brutes and hunters, which would put there strength near hulk base levels, if his 70 ton strength were true, and his speed seems to be an area of great discussion as well.

Mcs wepons are his only advantage.The symbiote would make spidy stronger for sure but, mc can use his uber asome lasers.All around spidy over powers.

by the way Wrong mc would win it to master g

How does MC win against someone who has these abilities

Spider-Sense: Spider-Man possesses an extrasensory “danger” or “spider” sense which warns him of potential immediate danger by the manifestation of a tingling sensation in the back of his skull, and links with his superhuman kinesthetics, enabling him to evade most any injuries, unless he cognitively overrides his automatic reflexes. The precise nature of this sense is unknown. It appears to be a simultaneous clairvoyant response to a wide variety of phenomena (everything from falling safes to speeding bullets to thrown punches), which has given several hundredths of a second warning, which is sufficient time for his reflexes to allow him to avoid injury. The sense also can create a general response on the order of several minutes: he cannot discern the nature of the threat by the sensation. He can, however, discern the severity of the danger by the strength of his response to it. Spider-Man’s spider-sense is directional and can guide him to or away from hidden weapons and enemies. Sudden and extreme threats can cause his spider-sense to react with painful intensity. Spider-Man can also sense and dodge attacks directed randomly or by a computer. Using his spider-sense to time his enhanced reflexes, Spider-Man can casually dodge attacks up to and including automatic-weapons fire, provided there is sufficient distance. His spider-sense is sufficiently well-linked to his reflexes to the point that a threat can trigger them even when Spider-Man is asleep or stunned. His spider-sense has helped him preserve his secret identity since it alerts him to observers or cameras when changing into or out of his costume. The spider-sense does react to those who Peter does not consider to be a threat, such as Aunt May. Spider-Man can choose to ignore his spider-sense, and distraction or fatigue diminish its effectiveness. Spider-Man’s fighting style incorporates the advantage that his “spider-sense” provides him. His body begins to produce more adrenaline after the sense is triggered, an extension of the ‘fight or flight syndrome.’
Superhuman Strength: Spider-Man possesses superhuman strength enabling him to lift approximately 10 tons. Spider-Man’s physical strength is sufficient to lift and throw objects as heavy as most standard automobiles with ease. He must also pull his punches and kicks unless fighting someone of similar or greater physical durability. Otherwise, his blows would prove fatal to a normal human being. Spider-Man’s physical strength also extends into his legs, enabling him to be able to jump to a height of several stories in a single bound.
Superhuman Speed: Spider-Man can run and move at speeds that are beyond the physical limits of the finest human athlete. He is ultimately capable of running at speeds of at least 100 miles per hour .
Superhuman Stamina: Spider-Man’s advanced musculature produces less fatigue toxins during physical activity than an ordinary human. This allows him to exert himself physically for much longer periods of time before fatigue begins to impair him. At his peak, Spider-Man can physically exert himself for several hours before the build up of fatigue toxins in his blood begins to impair him.
Superhuman Durability: Spider-Man’s body is physically tougher and more resistant to some types of injury than the body of a normal human. His body is more resistant to impact forces than anything else. He can withstand great impacts, such as falling from a height of several stories or being struck by a superhumanly strong opponent, that would severely injure or kill a normal human with little to no discomfort. He has more than once survived severe elctrocution.
Superhuman Agility: Spider-Man’s agility, balance, and bodily coordination are all enhanced to levels that are beyond the natural physical limits of the finest human athlete. Spider-Man is extraordinarily limber and his tendons and connective tissues are twice as elastic as the average human being’s, despite their enhanced strength. He has the combined agility and acrobatic prowess of the most accomplished circus aerialists and acrobats. He can also perform any complicated sequence of gymnastic stunts such as flips, rolls, and springs. He can easily match or top any Olympic record at gymnastics apparatus such as flying rings, climbing ropes, horizontal bars, trampolines.

Spiderman has the ability to achieve giant leaps.
Superhuman Equilibrium: Spider-Man possesses the ability to achieve a state of perfect equilibrium in any position imaginable. He seems able to adjust his position by instinct, which enables him to balance himself on virtually any object, no matter how small or narrow. He has developed a unique fighting style that made full use of his agility, strength, and equilibrium.
Superhuman Reflexes: Spider-Man’s reflexes are similarly enhanced and are currently about 15 times greater than those of an ordinary human. In combination with his spider-sense, the speed of his reflexes allows him to dodge almost any attack, or even gunfire, if he is far enough away.
Wall-Crawling: Spider-Man’s exposure to the mutated spider venom induced a mutagenic, cerebellum-wide alteration of his engrams resulting in the ability to mentally control the flux of inter-atomic attraction (electrostatic force) between molecular boundary layers. This overcomes the outer electron shell’s normal behavior of mutual repulsion with other outer electron shells and permits the tremendous potential for electron attraction to prevail. The mentally controlled sub-atomic particle responsible for this has yet to be identified. This ability to affect the attraction between surfaces is so far limited to Spider-Man’s body (especially concentrated in his hands and feet) and another object, with an upper limit of several tons per finger. Limits to this ability seem to be psychosomatic, and the full nature of this ability has yet to be established

Don’t forget that the symbiote makes Spiderman faster, Stronger, and more ruthless than normal

i highly doubt MC is escaping from spidey’s webs. those webs held ironman in place and there’s no question ironman is stronger than MC.

spidey has strength exceeding the 10-35+ tons and reaction speeds fast enough to dodge bullets in flight. master chief would be dragged around like a rag doll and bashed from wall to wall, master chief is to slow to keep up with spidey’s precognitive abilities.

spidey without the suit is enough to harm MC with his armor but the black suit expands his power dramatically.

MC really cant land a hit on him, long range weapons would. be his best bet. but that would fail. Close quarters MC fails.

saying @rater you are right

“MC SPARTAN LAZER = death to spidey”

Well first off whut up j hud

Second the Spartan Laser isn’t standard issue for MC and non standard issue weapons are not alone unless Admin says it’s ok

Please check rule book if you don’t believe me
http://www.factpile.com/factpile-debating-rules.htm

Now lets say it is aloud MC wouldn’t be able to hit Spidey due to the fact that it takes 5 second minimum between shots which due to Spidey’s speed and Spider-Sense MC would be unable to hit him. Now if we go by standard issue rule he gets the MA5C Assault Rifle, Now this helps MC better than the Spartan Laser could ever do. But still Spidey has dodged bullets in point blank range.

@ both j hud and munkey99

Now becareful with the MC fanaticism or being seen as a MC fanatic it could get you two in trouble in this site with certain members. Let us say they don’t like Halo fanboys. So becareful around here this isn’t Halo turf anymore. You two come off as nice. So I’m giving you this warning.

Now that being said Welcome to our little corner of the net known as Factpile and I hope to see more of you around here