Thanks for posting this fight admin. I think this would be a pretty evenly matched fight, but in the end I think Master Chief would win as Commander Shepard usually fights leading a squad of powerful allies and he wouldn’t get those guys here, although I still think he would be a tough fight for Master Chief.
Jwlynas January 23, 2009 #2
Is there a canon Commander Shepard, or are we using any possible Shepard from the games?
Because Biotics make this kind of a walk over for Shepard if he has them. Lift followed by throw, followed by a short burst from an assault rifle with the right enhancements (Can’t remember names off the top of my head) and chiefs gone.
Tim January 23, 2009 #3
If it was the basic Commander Shepard(the one I would consider canon) not a custom character one then he would not have biotics and would then probably lose, but if it was a custom character Commander Shepard then he or she could have biotics and as you said would probably win without a huge amount of difficulty.
Diana January 24, 2009 #4
Too right Tim….Shephard has exp. level while MC doesn’t have
guest January 24, 2009 #5
Weapons Technology in the Mass Effect universe is far more advanced than that of the UNSC.
mahboiiii January 24, 2009 #6
shepards tech is moer advanced than mater chief
onesidedfight January 24, 2009 #7
Shepard suit>>>MC’s suit
Shepard’s suit can have certien upgrades for strength, life, acurrecy, etc and the suit can be swaped for a better suit. while mc’s suit needs a whole new design to become better.
Shepard wepones=\>mc’s wepones
Shepard wepones are all plasma wepondery, and can have up to three upgrade slots for acurracy, damge, or overheating and are quite powerful before these upgrades. MC’s rocket luncher, laser, sniper, and nades would be his only chance of victory.
Shepard vechiles<<<Mc’s vechiles
Ah, here is MC ace in the hole. in almost ever shape way and form, mc’s vechiles are more powerfull and faster in space combat, and a scorpien would kick the he11 out of the shepards tank thing (I think tanko or something like that?) hecl, the ghost, hornet, banshe, or wraith would probley beat it as well, for shepards tank thing is, in all fairness, weak. I may be wrong saying a ghost or hornet could beat it, but a scorpien would defiently. while being slightly slower, it can can 2-3 spartien lasers, and can one-hit kill anything but other tanks.
In most confied, house type battles. Shepards would win, but out in the open, Shepard is doomed
Micheal January 26, 2009 #8
For once can we give MC the scarab gun in one of the battles were he doesn’t stand a chance and also chief can run 65 mph according to the halo universe and lift three times own body weight with out the suit i mean he can flip a tank for crying out loud come on people?!
the cheerful whale January 27, 2009 #9
i think that its pretty even i think that shepards advantage isnt huge but its big enough considering the technology that they both have im gonna go with mass effect…
hellatus January 28, 2009 #10
What if MC had overshields i bet he would win, Or even without overshields if he had the right weapon he would win
marche January 28, 2009 #11
not really hellatus,he still has inferior technology.
hellatus January 29, 2009 #12
Hmm he could make cortana shut shepard suit down (if it is possible)
yogidan15 January 30, 2009 #13
i can see many ways MC would win with H3 tech but also he could take mass effect tech seeing as he has hands. Yay for MC
The chief. Dont f with the chief! January 30, 2009 #14
The chief wins. He has hands. He can rip shepards head right off if he can flip a scorpion tank and then climb aboard a scarab and destroy it WITHOUT ANY HELP. maybe marines to keep it distracted and get killed but all he needs is a distraction or at least enemies who dont know hes coming.
The masterchief Dies!!! He can be killed from a short burst from an RPG!!!
Jwlynas January 30, 2009 #16
Halo tech is at a lower stage that that of Mass effect, MC having hands makes no difference when he’s 50 feet up or being sucked into a black hole, and as someones pointed out elsewhere, Cortana needs to be connected to something to hack into it.
How, how does MC win this?
At all?
John-117 February 12, 2009 #17
MC does have one HUGE advantage.
He can jump.I’ve played completely through mass effect and saw Shepard jump once or twice.And also Shepard may have gone against a large amount(and I mean LARGE amount)of aliens,so has the dude in green.In the end I think they would get to a tie, take a bus home and later maybe go have some coffee.
hellatus February 13, 2009 #18
IDK abt commander shephard but mc has super enhanced strength speed and stamina. he has more experience with weapons and battles. the game made mc alot weaker just so it would be playable. read the books
hellatus February 13, 2009 #19
mc can run at speeds faster than 100 kmph and he can carry 3 tons (if im not mistaken) his armour is 1 ton
hellatus February 14, 2009 #20
mc has energy shields does shepard have asny I DONT THINK SO!
cyborg pirate ninja jesus February 15, 2009 #21
ok first mc cant run faster then 100 km he maxes at about 60
shepard does have shields that regenerate too its the little white bars next to your health in the game
and sheperd would have all of his abilities coz if u get 150 kills with a technique it gets unlock on all classes
and jumping isnt really that much of an advantage all shepard needs to do then is shoot in the air
and all that needs to happen is sheperd uses singularity which makes mc unable to moves and draws him to a point of shepards choosing and shepard blows the crap out of him with a shotgun
mc loses… i hate it when fanboys take mcs abilities out of proportion sure hes cool but give it a rest
hellatus February 17, 2009 #22
abtually he can run speeds exceeding 100 kmph in the book he runs at 60 kmph then later on he can run100kmph without his armour but with his armour abt 60 kmph cuz his armour is a ton
cyborg pirate ninja jesus February 18, 2009 #23
y wudnt he have his armor that just stupid hes got basically no chance as it is y would he take off the only thing that could save him
hellatus February 20, 2009 #24
he wouldnt but still he is fast and alot stronger than with the armour. He can beat shepard considering his incredible speed strength luck skill and exp
Onesidedfight February 21, 2009 #25
by theway, shepared does have energy shields, in fact, shepared’s shields are like having a 4x overshield that recharges decentaly fast, and has 10x more health then master chief.
cyborg pirate ninja jesus February 22, 2009 #26
ok speed and luck would come into it but im not sure why everyone seems to think lucks on mcs side. but i dont think strength would come into it at all they would be shooting at eachother… but even with high speed shepard has multiple biotic powers to combat against that so i just dont see how mc can win
Onesidedfight February 22, 2009 #27
Luck is on master chiefs side for two reasons: 1. The books show him being luckey ( he calls which way a coin will land) 2. They say so in the game (“you had something they didn’t, luck”) but it still wouldn’t matter in the end, luck can only get you so far.
cyborg pirate ninja jesus February 24, 2009 #28
that doesnt mean its always on his side tho.and ive called how a coin lands tonnes of times
Thepocalypse February 25, 2009 #29
“that doesnt mean its always on his side tho.and ive called how a coin lands tonnes of times”
Read Fall of Reach. It IS canon, it says “prequel to the xbox game” on it for god’s sake. It clearly states that he is inexplicably lucky to the point that Cortana can feel it from looking at him. When Doctor Halsey repeatedly flips a coin, a young John can predict how it will fall with no errors. He has a level of luck that goes beyond coincidence.
cyborg pirate ninja jesus March 1, 2009 #30
ok fair enough.. but luck can only get you so far when your ar fighting someone that outmatches you in every way except for running speed
Onesidedfight March 1, 2009 #31
That’s my point, mc is luckly and skillful, but to an extent.
Thepocalypse March 1, 2009 #32
But immense combat skill mixed with luck that defies reality. That’s a deadly combination.
John-117 March 1, 2009 #33
I’ve read up.All of the sources I’ve found say that the canon Shepard did NOT have biotics.There’s one less advantage but(although I hate to say it)Shepard is still a little bit more likely to win but not certain to win.
Naki March 6, 2009 #34
The shields in mass effect, can be bypassed by something moving slow enough.
Physical: MC
Mental: MC
Technological: Shepard
Versatility: Shepard
At long range i give it to Shepard, Close MC, Medium Shepard. But hey, I dont know much about Mass effect technology, nor do i do well in science so…
Shepard is my guess.
cyborg pirate ninja jesus March 9, 2009 #35
that is tru they can be bypassed by things that move slowly. but when they are fighting i doubt either of them would move slow…. but good point
Rob (Expertimp) March 10, 2009 #36
I would think do to shepards exerience he can beat MC in this situation.
Winner: Commander Shepard
hellatus March 20, 2009 #37
mc also has alot of experience u know
blargh May 18, 2009 #38
at long range shepard wins due to far superior guns close range master chief becuase he is phisically inhanced if nethier of them had armor or weapons then the chief would easily punch shepards head off or if the chief had a sparten laser shepard would get shot in half if they both had the same armor and weapons chief would win due to luck and skill chief is my favorite to but if it was up to tech(long range or mid range) he’s dead
cyborg pirate ninja jesus May 19, 2009 #39
ok chances are that neither will use close combat techniques because they…well have guns. and a shot blast from close will do far more damage than a punch or kick shepards guns are far more advanced which gives him an advantage. his suit has regenerating shields as well so that puts the suits at about equal.. the only things that i can put in cheifs favor are movement speed and strength. oh and i dont think shepard can run out of ammo his/her guns just overheat after prolonged usage
so i think that after a decent gun battle superior equipment will prevail
shepard ftw
cyborg pirate ninja jesus June 13, 2009 #40
well considering there hasnt been any posts here in a while i think shepard has won
cyborg pirate ninja jesus June 16, 2009 #41
hey cool i just noticed i have little star things wat are they from
Each star equals 50 comments on the site. Congrats! – Admin
david July 2, 2009 #42
Sheaperds guns don’t fire plasma. they fire moleculer slivers of metal by using magnectic accelleration. think of them as tiny mac guns. But MC has the better armour.
cyborg pirate ninja jesus July 4, 2009 #43
@david
the armour on the 2 are basically the same but a big advantage with shepards is the shielding, it can have 4 shields operating while chiefs can only have one
its like mc versing himself with better technology and some magic(depending on the shepard)
Shepard would, despite Master Chiefs extreamly unrealistic abilities.. Shepard would still come out on top.. If he had biotic powers, one simple lift and MC would be floating round in mid air before he knew what hit em. and we all know the strangth of decent shotgun in mass effect.. Poor green bastered wouldnt stand a chance..
In terms of who is a better character ?? not who would win in a fight.. I’d have to go with Shepard again. As much as i love chief’s character, he shows NO emotion.. like none? they try to hard to pull off the hole ‘ dirty harry ‘ image.
Shepard wins hands down, you can make him an absolute bad ass if you want or a noble hero, both work sooo wellllllll..
Sailboat September 21, 2009 #45
Shepard, absolutely no contest.
alfieboi13 December 16, 2009 #46
the tecnology is MUCH MUCH more advanced in mass effect. the armour is better, the guns are better and the fighters are better. Shepard easily win plus he also has biotics!
j hud February 8, 2010 #47
mc+commander shepard = death to covanent+geth
j hud February 8, 2010 #48
mc sniper has 10x zoom shepard has 8x
cyborg pirate ninja jesus February 8, 2010 #49
@jhud
“mc sniper has 10x zoom shepard has 8x”\
whats the use if it can get through the shields
cyborg pirate ninja jesus February 8, 2010 #50
if it cant*
typo
midnite marauder February 8, 2010 #51
2 words M-920 Cain. The instant pwner.
Pffft right.. February 9, 2010 #52
Mass Effect technology is FAR beyond halo tech. Despite what people may think, chief would be less than a mercenary in mass effect due to weak tech.
Speed and luck don’t matter. One chief would be dead before he could accelerate to a fast enough speed to dodge shepards bullets. Two if luck mattered then chief could beat anyone theoretically.
Pffft right.. February 9, 2010 #53
Oh and uh.. Shepard is James T Kirk with a mini nuke launcher and black hole projector launcher… EAT THAT MC FANS!!
CEverett753 February 13, 2010 #54
Shepard’s weapons have auto-aim at close range so even if the chief can run fast enough, when he gets up close all Shepard has to do his squeeze the trigger and the bullets will lock on to chief and eventually kill him.
sonofhades February 14, 2010 #55
okay since i know nothing about general sheperd ill lust post a fight…..
Master Chief VS Rosarch
Nintendopwns February 14, 2010 #56
Oh and uh.. Shepard is James T Kirk with a mini nuke launcher and black hole projector launcher… EAT THAT MC FANS!!
Quoted for be very true.
renesaG February 23, 2010 #57
chiefs shields can take plasma pretty well why not bullets that move at the speed of light. also chiefs shields are more advanced since that can deflect projectiles and enery weapons.
RenesaG February 25, 2010 #58
Is chief restricted to unsc weapons because if he’s aloud covenant weapons that would be a big advantage
MEGADOOMER February 25, 2010 #59
He’s only allowed standard weapons.(UNSC) But if you want an advantage, how bout the splazer?
MEGADOOMER February 25, 2010 #60
Hey Admin, I just realized you said “yes” instead of “yet”
Just wanted you to know.
Jwlynas February 25, 2010 #61
Splazer versus Collector laser (which is a laser type weapon, and is stopped by kinetic shields.. for some reason. Probably Element Zero)
Plus Shepard has a good share of heavy weapons now. The firestorm “a sticky spray that burns at approximately 1,600 degrees Celsius”, the Avalanche that’d likely freeze MC to pieces and the Cain, which is essentially a portable nuke launcher.
Jwlynas, the Collector Particle Beam Rifle is focused and directed radiation. It is not a laser. That is why Kinetic Barries can affect them. Lasers, real ones not sci-fi fictional ones that are completely differant in functionality, bypass Kinetic Barriers entirely.
RenesaG March 4, 2010 #64
Wouldn’t the Spartan laser take shepard out quick. And someone wants to argue that it would be hard aiming master chiefs a super soldier. Also it take about as long as the nuke launcher to fire.
Jwlynas March 4, 2010 #65
“Wouldn’t the Spartan laser take shepard out quick. And someone wants to argue that it would be hard aiming master chiefs a super soldier. Also it take about as long as the nuke launcher to fire.”
But then Shepard doesn’t need to worry about a long aiming time with his other guns, Plus, as of Mass Effect 2, Biotics/tech abilities are his to command, seriously screwing over the chief
“Jwlynas, the Collector Particle Beam Rifle is focused and directed radiation. It is not a laser.”
Ah, fair enough. Surely that’d still mess up M’s day something fierce though?
cyborg pirate ninja jesus March 4, 2010 #66
omg im so sure i closed this ages ago.
shielding=shephard,(he can have up to 4 times shielding of mass effect quality)
weapons=shephard(infinite ammo *not literally* customisable rounds and far better range)
skill=shephards(thanks to all the genetic engineering stuff mass effect is so fond of)
computer systems=shephard (auto targeting whoops cortanas arse when it comes to a gun fight)
magic= shephard
everything in this fight says shephard….you could give mc a covenant ship and shephard would still be able to take it down…..(stasis) and i havent even played me2 yet. god knows what kind of upgrades he has recieved
Darkbladex96 March 12, 2010 #67
well since ME2 commander shepard has become a cybernetic super soldier.
he has cybernetic ocular implants, bone, skin, and muscle weave, all of his implants secrete med-gel allowing for rapid regeneration of flesh and bone. his skin weaves make his flesh resistant to gunfire, his muscle weave make him physically stronger about the strength of a krogan(commander shepard was able to quickly recover and lift multiple metal bulkheads with little physical strain), and his bone weave makes him highly resistant to blunt trauma.
Canon shepard is a soldier class, so he wont have any biotic powers in this match.
but thats fine because soldier is more then enough to drop MC.
1. MC’s shields wont last long against mass effect weaponry. plus soldiers can use all ammo types, which means disrutor ammo is gonna eat chief alive. (basecally emp bullets).
2. Shepards arsenal is much larger, he’s gonna bring five weapons to the fight. vindicator assualt rifle, eviserator shotgun, widow maker anti-material sniper rifle, carnifex handcannon, one of many heavy weapons, maybe the M-622 avalanche.
a. vindicator assualt rifle- 5 round burst weapon effective vs shields, armor, and barriers. trigger can be pulsed. very deadly at an range.
b. eviserator shotgun-cereburus made assualt shotgun, rapid fire, power rivaling that of the claymore shotgun(one shot one kill weapon). effective vs barriers. low ammo.
c. widow maker anti-material sniper rifle-incapable of being wielded by a human(would shatter their arms). made to plow through shielding and armor to destroy light tanks and other vehicles.
d. carnifex handcannon-ME’s magnum, lighly accurate, weak against shields, strong against armor.
e. M-622 alavanche- a cyroblast, mainly a support defense weapon, can snap freeze enemies for 15-20 seconds. makes a cloud of Bose-Einstein condensate(a mass of super-cooled subatomic particles).
this is a ROFLstomp in the favor of shepard.
Shepard for the FP award.
Belisaurius March 12, 2010 #68
Yeah, Shepard with distruptor ammo and adrenaline rush. Pretty much takes mjolnir out in the first few seconds.
Darkbladex96 March 12, 2010 #69
need more people to comment on this…need someone to defend MC or shepard cant get an FP award.
Required: Name March 12, 2010 #70
Shepard has one shield in mass effect 2. biotic powers don’t penetrate shields. Also how powerful is a bolt of plasma from a plasma rifle.
Belisaurius March 12, 2010 #71
“biotic powers don’t penetrate shields”
Kinetic shields which utilize the same forces working against them. Halo shields utilize energy-state repulsive barriers.
“Also how powerful is a bolt of plasma from a plasma rifle.”
Pretty powerful, but it still has mass that can be repelled.
Jimmie_Rox March 12, 2010 #72
Hmm, as a Soildier class Shepard is canon then as of ME2 he can equip any weapon with a form of ammo like cryo, incendiary, disruptor or warp. He can also use limited biotic and tech powers, have insane reflexes that literally make him be able to react almost twice as fast as the enemies, which include mechs, while being able to regen health and shields in an insanely fast time.
And last but not least there’s the Cain. This works by accelerating a 25g mass to a velocity of 5km/s. This slug is made of a compound explosive in a matrix that de-coheres explosively on impact multiplying the destructive power of the weapon. This weapon does 10000 points worth of damage with a large area of effect, ie if Shepard manages to fire this at MC then MC is pretty much dead. And just in case he misses Shepard can carry enough ammo to take another shot.
Darkbladex96 March 14, 2010 #73
@Required: Name
which can take the same amount of fire as the mass effect 1 multiple bar shield, with faster recharge rates, not to mention the entire universe of ME went into a weapons overhaul everyone switched to thermal clips to increase weapon effectiveness.
@Jimmie_Rox
the cain has tracking ability the further he is from chief when he fires it the more accurate itll be. but i wouldn use something like that against MC, the particle beam would work well, or the avalanche, maybe the rocket launcher.
Jimmie_Rox March 15, 2010 #74
@ Dark, why limit yourself, if you have a weapon of immense power why not use it? I carried it around ingame after I researched it simply because it’s nice knowing you have that power to fall back on if it gets a bit tough. For everything else you have the handcannon, a shotgun, the Avenger (yes I know the burst one does more damage but I hate burst weapons in games) or the Widow.
Matapiojo March 15, 2010 #75
Hey, Jimmy.
Nice to see you up and at ‘em again.
Darkbladex96 March 15, 2010 #76
@jimmie_Rox
the cain was to impractical, 5 sec charge 2 shots just wasnt my style. main i believe that MC can avoid the cain, it makes a huge red light while charging and the slug is so massive that it tracks poorly, MC speed and reflexes should allow him to dodge it easily at the range nessecary for it to be effective. something with more ammo and better fire rate would be better.
Jimmie_Rox March 15, 2010 #77
@ Mata
Cheers matey, you too.
@ Dark
Dodge something moving at 5 km/s? Don’t be freaking ridiculous, there’s no way MC could dodge that, and it’s AoE is huge, they had to make it non friendly fire in the game mechanics simply because otherwise there wouldn’t be a single point in the game where you could fire it and survive the blast radius is so large.
cyborg pirate ninja jesus March 16, 2010 #78
holy shit…….i have missed out on so much in me2….stupid exclusives
renesaG March 17, 2010 #79
Do you think MC should get some of the powers like a jet pack from halo reach. They are part of the halo universe, but if he can’t get them its no big deal.
renesaG March 17, 2010 #80
I really need to know something. How does anyone know what effect mass effect weapons will have on chiefs shields. Some people say it’ll make chief explode. Also shepards shield isn’t as strong as the one in mass effect 1.
Darkbladex96 March 17, 2010 #81
“I really need to know something. How does anyone know what effect mass effect weapons will have on chiefs shields. Some people say it’ll make chief explode. Also shepards shield isn’t as strong as the one in mass effect 1.”
because unsc weapons work fine on chiefs shields and thier workhorse gun is crap. Mass effect small arms are extremely advanced and powerful. so theres no doubt that they be hell on chief.
make chief explode, probable not they dont make people explode on mass effect.
the shields are stronger on mass effect 2 but the weapons are a lot more powerful as well to counteract the increase in shield power, and armor.
January 23, 2009
#1
Thanks for posting this fight admin. I think this would be a pretty evenly matched fight, but in the end I think Master Chief would win as Commander Shepard usually fights leading a squad of powerful allies and he wouldn’t get those guys here, although I still think he would be a tough fight for Master Chief.
January 23, 2009
#2
Is there a canon Commander Shepard, or are we using any possible Shepard from the games?
Because Biotics make this kind of a walk over for Shepard if he has them. Lift followed by throw, followed by a short burst from an assault rifle with the right enhancements (Can’t remember names off the top of my head) and chiefs gone.
January 23, 2009
#3
If it was the basic Commander Shepard(the one I would consider canon) not a custom character one then he would not have biotics and would then probably lose, but if it was a custom character Commander Shepard then he or she could have biotics and as you said would probably win without a huge amount of difficulty.
January 24, 2009
#4
Too right Tim….Shephard has exp. level while MC doesn’t have
January 24, 2009
#5
Weapons Technology in the Mass Effect universe is far more advanced than that of the UNSC.
January 24, 2009
#6
shepards tech is moer advanced than mater chief
January 24, 2009
#7
Shepard suit>>>MC’s suit
Shepard’s suit can have certien upgrades for strength, life, acurrecy, etc and the suit can be swaped for a better suit. while mc’s suit needs a whole new design to become better.
Shepard wepones=\>mc’s wepones
Shepard wepones are all plasma wepondery, and can have up to three upgrade slots for acurracy, damge, or overheating and are quite powerful before these upgrades. MC’s rocket luncher, laser, sniper, and nades would be his only chance of victory.
Shepard vechiles<<<Mc’s vechiles
Ah, here is MC ace in the hole. in almost ever shape way and form, mc’s vechiles are more powerfull and faster in space combat, and a scorpien would kick the he11 out of the shepards tank thing (I think tanko or something like that?) hecl, the ghost, hornet, banshe, or wraith would probley beat it as well, for shepards tank thing is, in all fairness, weak. I may be wrong saying a ghost or hornet could beat it, but a scorpien would defiently. while being slightly slower, it can can 2-3 spartien lasers, and can one-hit kill anything but other tanks.
In most confied, house type battles. Shepards would win, but out in the open, Shepard is doomed
January 26, 2009
#8
For once can we give MC the scarab gun in one of the battles were he doesn’t stand a chance and also chief can run 65 mph according to the halo universe and lift three times own body weight with out the suit i mean he can flip a tank for crying out loud come on people?!
January 27, 2009
#9
i think that its pretty even i think that shepards advantage isnt huge but its big enough considering the technology that they both have im gonna go with mass effect…
January 28, 2009
#10
What if MC had overshields i bet he would win, Or even without overshields if he had the right weapon he would win
January 28, 2009
#11
not really hellatus,he still has inferior technology.
January 29, 2009
#12
Hmm he could make cortana shut shepard suit down (if it is possible)
January 30, 2009
#13
i can see many ways MC would win with H3 tech but also he could take mass effect tech seeing as he has hands. Yay for MC
January 30, 2009
#14
The chief wins. He has hands. He can rip shepards head right off if he can flip a scorpion tank and then climb aboard a scarab and destroy it WITHOUT ANY HELP. maybe marines to keep it distracted and get killed but all he needs is a distraction or at least enemies who dont know hes coming.
January 30, 2009
#15
The masterchief Dies!!! He can be killed from a short burst from an RPG!!!
January 30, 2009
#16
Halo tech is at a lower stage that that of Mass effect, MC having hands makes no difference when he’s 50 feet up or being sucked into a black hole, and as someones pointed out elsewhere, Cortana needs to be connected to something to hack into it.
How, how does MC win this?
At all?
February 12, 2009
#17
MC does have one HUGE advantage.
He can jump.I’ve played completely through mass effect and saw Shepard jump once or twice.And also Shepard may have gone against a large amount(and I mean LARGE amount)of aliens,so has the dude in green.In the end I think they would get to a tie, take a bus home and later maybe go have some coffee.
February 13, 2009
#18
IDK abt commander shephard but mc has super enhanced strength speed and stamina. he has more experience with weapons and battles. the game made mc alot weaker just so it would be playable. read the books
February 13, 2009
#19
mc can run at speeds faster than 100 kmph and he can carry 3 tons (if im not mistaken) his armour is 1 ton
February 14, 2009
#20
mc has energy shields does shepard have asny I DONT THINK SO!
February 15, 2009
#21
ok first mc cant run faster then 100 km he maxes at about 60
shepard does have shields that regenerate too its the little white bars next to your health in the game
and sheperd would have all of his abilities coz if u get 150 kills with a technique it gets unlock on all classes
and jumping isnt really that much of an advantage all shepard needs to do then is shoot in the air
and all that needs to happen is sheperd uses singularity which makes mc unable to moves and draws him to a point of shepards choosing and shepard blows the crap out of him with a shotgun
mc loses… i hate it when fanboys take mcs abilities out of proportion sure hes cool but give it a rest
February 17, 2009
#22
abtually he can run speeds exceeding 100 kmph in the book he runs at 60 kmph then later on he can run100kmph without his armour but with his armour abt 60 kmph cuz his armour is a ton
February 18, 2009
#23
y wudnt he have his armor that just stupid hes got basically no chance as it is y would he take off the only thing that could save him
February 20, 2009
#24
he wouldnt but still he is fast and alot stronger than with the armour. He can beat shepard considering his incredible speed strength luck skill and exp
February 21, 2009
#25
by theway, shepared does have energy shields, in fact, shepared’s shields are like having a 4x overshield that recharges decentaly fast, and has 10x more health then master chief.
February 22, 2009
#26
ok speed and luck would come into it but im not sure why everyone seems to think lucks on mcs side. but i dont think strength would come into it at all they would be shooting at eachother… but even with high speed shepard has multiple biotic powers to combat against that so i just dont see how mc can win
February 22, 2009
#27
Luck is on master chiefs side for two reasons: 1. The books show him being luckey ( he calls which way a coin will land) 2. They say so in the game (“you had something they didn’t, luck”) but it still wouldn’t matter in the end, luck can only get you so far.
February 24, 2009
#28
that doesnt mean its always on his side tho.and ive called how a coin lands tonnes of times
February 25, 2009
#29
“that doesnt mean its always on his side tho.and ive called how a coin lands tonnes of times”
Read Fall of Reach. It IS canon, it says “prequel to the xbox game” on it for god’s sake. It clearly states that he is inexplicably lucky to the point that Cortana can feel it from looking at him. When Doctor Halsey repeatedly flips a coin, a young John can predict how it will fall with no errors. He has a level of luck that goes beyond coincidence.
March 1, 2009
#30
ok fair enough.. but luck can only get you so far when your ar fighting someone that outmatches you in every way except for running speed
March 1, 2009
#31
That’s my point, mc is luckly and skillful, but to an extent.
March 1, 2009
#32
But immense combat skill mixed with luck that defies reality. That’s a deadly combination.
March 1, 2009
#33
I’ve read up.All of the sources I’ve found say that the canon Shepard did NOT have biotics.There’s one less advantage but(although I hate to say it)Shepard is still a little bit more likely to win but not certain to win.
March 6, 2009
#34
The shields in mass effect, can be bypassed by something moving slow enough.
Physical: MC
Mental: MC
Technological: Shepard
Versatility: Shepard
At long range i give it to Shepard, Close MC, Medium Shepard. But hey, I dont know much about Mass effect technology, nor do i do well in science so…
Shepard is my guess.
March 9, 2009
#35
that is tru they can be bypassed by things that move slowly. but when they are fighting i doubt either of them would move slow…. but good point
March 10, 2009
#36
I would think do to shepards exerience he can beat MC in this situation.
Winner: Commander Shepard
March 20, 2009
#37
mc also has alot of experience u know
May 18, 2009
#38
at long range shepard wins due to far superior guns close range master chief becuase he is phisically inhanced if nethier of them had armor or weapons then the chief would easily punch shepards head off or if the chief had a sparten laser shepard would get shot in half if they both had the same armor and weapons chief would win due to luck and skill chief is my favorite to but if it was up to tech(long range or mid range) he’s dead
May 19, 2009
#39
ok chances are that neither will use close combat techniques because they…well have guns. and a shot blast from close will do far more damage than a punch or kick shepards guns are far more advanced which gives him an advantage. his suit has regenerating shields as well so that puts the suits at about equal.. the only things that i can put in cheifs favor are movement speed and strength. oh and i dont think shepard can run out of ammo his/her guns just overheat after prolonged usage
so i think that after a decent gun battle superior equipment will prevail
shepard ftw
June 13, 2009
#40
well considering there hasnt been any posts here in a while i think shepard has won
June 16, 2009
#41
hey cool i just noticed i have little star things wat are they from
Each star equals 50 comments on the site. Congrats! – Admin
July 2, 2009
#42
Sheaperds guns don’t fire plasma. they fire moleculer slivers of metal by using magnectic accelleration. think of them as tiny mac guns. But MC has the better armour.
July 4, 2009
#43
@david
the armour on the 2 are basically the same but a big advantage with shepards is the shielding, it can have 4 shields operating while chiefs can only have one
its like mc versing himself with better technology and some magic(depending on the shepard)
July 20, 2009
#44
Shepard would, despite Master Chiefs extreamly unrealistic abilities.. Shepard would still come out on top.. If he had biotic powers, one simple lift and MC would be floating round in mid air before he knew what hit em. and we all know the strangth of decent shotgun in mass effect.. Poor green bastered wouldnt stand a chance..
In terms of who is a better character ?? not who would win in a fight.. I’d have to go with Shepard again. As much as i love chief’s character, he shows NO emotion.. like none? they try to hard to pull off the hole ‘ dirty harry ‘ image.
Shepard wins hands down, you can make him an absolute bad ass if you want or a noble hero, both work sooo wellllllll..
September 21, 2009
#45
Shepard, absolutely no contest.
December 16, 2009
#46
the tecnology is MUCH MUCH more advanced in mass effect. the armour is better, the guns are better and the fighters are better. Shepard easily win plus he also has biotics!
February 8, 2010
#47
mc+commander shepard = death to covanent+geth
February 8, 2010
#48
mc sniper has 10x zoom shepard has 8x
February 8, 2010
#49
@jhud
“mc sniper has 10x zoom shepard has 8x”\
whats the use if it can get through the shields
February 8, 2010
#50
if it cant*
typo
February 8, 2010
#51
2 words M-920 Cain. The instant pwner.
February 9, 2010
#52
Mass Effect technology is FAR beyond halo tech. Despite what people may think, chief would be less than a mercenary in mass effect due to weak tech.
Speed and luck don’t matter. One chief would be dead before he could accelerate to a fast enough speed to dodge shepards bullets. Two if luck mattered then chief could beat anyone theoretically.
February 9, 2010
#53
Oh and uh.. Shepard is James T Kirk with a mini nuke launcher and black hole projector launcher… EAT THAT MC FANS!!
February 13, 2010
#54
Shepard’s weapons have auto-aim at close range so even if the chief can run fast enough, when he gets up close all Shepard has to do his squeeze the trigger and the bullets will lock on to chief and eventually kill him.
February 14, 2010
#55
okay since i know nothing about general sheperd ill lust post a fight…..
Master Chief VS Rosarch
February 14, 2010
#56
Oh and uh.. Shepard is James T Kirk with a mini nuke launcher and black hole projector launcher… EAT THAT MC FANS!!
Quoted for be very true.
February 23, 2010
#57
chiefs shields can take plasma pretty well why not bullets that move at the speed of light. also chiefs shields are more advanced since that can deflect projectiles and enery weapons.
February 25, 2010
#58
Is chief restricted to unsc weapons because if he’s aloud covenant weapons that would be a big advantage
February 25, 2010
#59
He’s only allowed standard weapons.(UNSC) But if you want an advantage, how bout the splazer?
February 25, 2010
#60
Hey Admin, I just realized you said “yes” instead of “yet”
Just wanted you to know.
February 25, 2010
#61
Splazer versus Collector laser (which is a laser type weapon, and is stopped by kinetic shields.. for some reason. Probably Element Zero)
Plus Shepard has a good share of heavy weapons now. The firestorm “a sticky spray that burns at approximately 1,600 degrees Celsius”, the Avalanche that’d likely freeze MC to pieces and the Cain, which is essentially a portable nuke launcher.
February 25, 2010
#62
@MEGADOOMER – Thanks, edit made.
February 25, 2010
#63
Jwlynas, the Collector Particle Beam Rifle is focused and directed radiation. It is not a laser. That is why Kinetic Barries can affect them. Lasers, real ones not sci-fi fictional ones that are completely differant in functionality, bypass Kinetic Barriers entirely.
March 4, 2010
#64
Wouldn’t the Spartan laser take shepard out quick. And someone wants to argue that it would be hard aiming master chiefs a super soldier. Also it take about as long as the nuke launcher to fire.
March 4, 2010
#65
“Wouldn’t the Spartan laser take shepard out quick. And someone wants to argue that it would be hard aiming master chiefs a super soldier. Also it take about as long as the nuke launcher to fire.”
But then Shepard doesn’t need to worry about a long aiming time with his other guns, Plus, as of Mass Effect 2, Biotics/tech abilities are his to command, seriously screwing over the chief
“Jwlynas, the Collector Particle Beam Rifle is focused and directed radiation. It is not a laser.”
Ah, fair enough. Surely that’d still mess up M’s day something fierce though?
March 4, 2010
#66
omg im so sure i closed this ages ago.
shielding=shephard,(he can have up to 4 times shielding of mass effect quality)
weapons=shephard(infinite ammo *not literally* customisable rounds and far better range)
skill=shephards(thanks to all the genetic engineering stuff mass effect is so fond of)
computer systems=shephard (auto targeting whoops cortanas arse when it comes to a gun fight)
magic= shephard
everything in this fight says shephard….you could give mc a covenant ship and shephard would still be able to take it down…..(stasis) and i havent even played me2 yet. god knows what kind of upgrades he has recieved
March 12, 2010
#67
well since ME2 commander shepard has become a cybernetic super soldier.
he has cybernetic ocular implants, bone, skin, and muscle weave, all of his implants secrete med-gel allowing for rapid regeneration of flesh and bone. his skin weaves make his flesh resistant to gunfire, his muscle weave make him physically stronger about the strength of a krogan(commander shepard was able to quickly recover and lift multiple metal bulkheads with little physical strain), and his bone weave makes him highly resistant to blunt trauma.
Canon shepard is a soldier class, so he wont have any biotic powers in this match.
but thats fine because soldier is more then enough to drop MC.
1. MC’s shields wont last long against mass effect weaponry. plus soldiers can use all ammo types, which means disrutor ammo is gonna eat chief alive. (basecally emp bullets).
2. Shepards arsenal is much larger, he’s gonna bring five weapons to the fight. vindicator assualt rifle, eviserator shotgun, widow maker anti-material sniper rifle, carnifex handcannon, one of many heavy weapons, maybe the M-622 avalanche.
a. vindicator assualt rifle- 5 round burst weapon effective vs shields, armor, and barriers. trigger can be pulsed. very deadly at an range.
b. eviserator shotgun-cereburus made assualt shotgun, rapid fire, power rivaling that of the claymore shotgun(one shot one kill weapon). effective vs barriers. low ammo.
c. widow maker anti-material sniper rifle-incapable of being wielded by a human(would shatter their arms). made to plow through shielding and armor to destroy light tanks and other vehicles.
d. carnifex handcannon-ME’s magnum, lighly accurate, weak against shields, strong against armor.
e. M-622 alavanche- a cyroblast, mainly a support defense weapon, can snap freeze enemies for 15-20 seconds. makes a cloud of Bose-Einstein condensate(a mass of super-cooled subatomic particles).
this is a ROFLstomp in the favor of shepard.
Shepard for the FP award.
March 12, 2010
#68
Yeah, Shepard with distruptor ammo and adrenaline rush. Pretty much takes mjolnir out in the first few seconds.
March 12, 2010
#69
need more people to comment on this…need someone to defend MC or shepard cant get an FP award.
March 12, 2010
#70
Shepard has one shield in mass effect 2. biotic powers don’t penetrate shields. Also how powerful is a bolt of plasma from a plasma rifle.
March 12, 2010
#71
“biotic powers don’t penetrate shields”
Kinetic shields which utilize the same forces working against them. Halo shields utilize energy-state repulsive barriers.
“Also how powerful is a bolt of plasma from a plasma rifle.”
Pretty powerful, but it still has mass that can be repelled.
March 12, 2010
#72
Hmm, as a Soildier class Shepard is canon then as of ME2 he can equip any weapon with a form of ammo like cryo, incendiary, disruptor or warp. He can also use limited biotic and tech powers, have insane reflexes that literally make him be able to react almost twice as fast as the enemies, which include mechs, while being able to regen health and shields in an insanely fast time.
And last but not least there’s the Cain. This works by accelerating a 25g mass to a velocity of 5km/s. This slug is made of a compound explosive in a matrix that de-coheres explosively on impact multiplying the destructive power of the weapon. This weapon does 10000 points worth of damage with a large area of effect, ie if Shepard manages to fire this at MC then MC is pretty much dead. And just in case he misses Shepard can carry enough ammo to take another shot.
March 14, 2010
#73
@Required: Name
which can take the same amount of fire as the mass effect 1 multiple bar shield, with faster recharge rates, not to mention the entire universe of ME went into a weapons overhaul everyone switched to thermal clips to increase weapon effectiveness.
@Jimmie_Rox
the cain has tracking ability the further he is from chief when he fires it the more accurate itll be. but i wouldn use something like that against MC, the particle beam would work well, or the avalanche, maybe the rocket launcher.
March 15, 2010
#74
@ Dark, why limit yourself, if you have a weapon of immense power why not use it? I carried it around ingame after I researched it simply because it’s nice knowing you have that power to fall back on if it gets a bit tough. For everything else you have the handcannon, a shotgun, the Avenger (yes I know the burst one does more damage but I hate burst weapons in games) or the Widow.
March 15, 2010
#75
Hey, Jimmy.
Nice to see you up and at ‘em again.
March 15, 2010
#76
@jimmie_Rox
the cain was to impractical, 5 sec charge 2 shots just wasnt my style. main i believe that MC can avoid the cain, it makes a huge red light while charging and the slug is so massive that it tracks poorly, MC speed and reflexes should allow him to dodge it easily at the range nessecary for it to be effective. something with more ammo and better fire rate would be better.
March 15, 2010
#77
@ Mata
Cheers matey, you too.
@ Dark
Dodge something moving at 5 km/s? Don’t be freaking ridiculous, there’s no way MC could dodge that, and it’s AoE is huge, they had to make it non friendly fire in the game mechanics simply because otherwise there wouldn’t be a single point in the game where you could fire it and survive the blast radius is so large.
March 16, 2010
#78
holy shit…….i have missed out on so much in me2….stupid exclusives
March 17, 2010
#79
Do you think MC should get some of the powers like a jet pack from halo reach. They are part of the halo universe, but if he can’t get them its no big deal.
March 17, 2010
#80
I really need to know something. How does anyone know what effect mass effect weapons will have on chiefs shields. Some people say it’ll make chief explode. Also shepards shield isn’t as strong as the one in mass effect 1.
March 17, 2010
#81
“I really need to know something. How does anyone know what effect mass effect weapons will have on chiefs shields. Some people say it’ll make chief explode. Also shepards shield isn’t as strong as the one in mass effect 1.”
because unsc weapons work fine on chiefs shields and thier workhorse gun is crap. Mass effect small arms are extremely advanced and powerful. so theres no doubt that they be hell on chief.
make chief explode, probable not they dont make people explode on mass effect.
the shields are stronger on mass effect 2 but the weapons are a lot more powerful as well to counteract the increase in shield power, and armor.
and MC only gets what he usually carries.