A much requested fight finally makes it to the site. For this fight, the battle ground is within a structure similar to the Ark. Given all that Strife can do, how can Master Chief win this fight?
A much requested fight finally makes it to the site. For this fight, the battle ground is within a structure similar to the Ark. Given all that Strife can do, how can Master Chief win this fight?
September 25, 2008
#1
well, cloud didn’t beat sephiroth by himself, so I’m gonna say that master chief can beat him, 50-50 chance,
September 28, 2008
#2
anyone who hangs up with mickey moude is no match for the chief. there
September 30, 2008
#3
One word:materia!chief is dead.cloud is too good
October 21, 2008
#4
knights of the round, limit break: omni-slash. Cheif dies. Clous can dodge and deflect bullets/rockets. no contest.
October 29, 2008
#5
If Darth Vader could kill him, so could MC
November 9, 2008
#6
Yes cloud did have help fighting septhiroth. They did a couple hundred damage and used my potions. Cloud can beat sepiritoh on his own. Plus, how many metors can mc take to the head? Cloud can take ALOT. Plus, cloud can use cold, fire, poison, and many other spells with a wave of a hand. He can take countless shots from a gun and just heal himself. He can even dodge bullets. Unless mc isn’t killed by a metor to the face or fire to the face, I don’t think he is going to live long.
November 10, 2008
#7
Cloud would not just beat the Chief, HE WOULD PWN THE CHIEF. The Chief may have guns, but Cloud is a better fighter than the Chief. Cloud can use magic on the Chief, cuz the Chief don’t have magic, therefore he couldn’t counter or protect from the magic.
November 20, 2008
#8
f#ck you why would mc lose mc is smarter than cloud strife
November 20, 2008
#9
Maybe in military tactics, but not in magic. That’s the one thing to give Cloud the advantage. MC would beat most non-magic users, but Cloud is a very strong magic user
November 29, 2008
#10
Ok I just have to say this I am a Die hard Halo Fan but Cloud would Kill the MC cause you got to look at it he F#CKING DEFLECTS BULLETS CAN TAKE ROUNDS LIKE A BULLET PROOF VEST AGAINST AIR SOFT PELLETS. also he’s cloud strife, killed sephiroth TWICE! and also the MC had Marines helping him 70% of the time. Cloud didn’t he usually does it alone. You can’t beat Cloud sorry but its true
December 3, 2008
#11
Cloud is basicly a sowerd and magic version of mc. Even though mc was trained scine six, and cloud was trained from his teens, they are both elite soliders, both have been injected with a steriod substice, and both are very strong and fast. But one has a gun and one has magic and a big @$$ sowerd.
December 4, 2008
#12
if kingdome hearts cloud=mc
if ff7 cloude=strife
December 18, 2008
#13
i think that if they got in close cloud wud just blast him with a bit of magic then stab him quick but at range id have to go mc coz magic doesnt have the distance a sniper does
January 12, 2009
#14
In Advent Children Cloud can deflect bullets with ease. And I daresay he could jump away from a big slow rocket. MC= dead
January 22, 2009
#15
Cloud wins. The cheif might get a lucky shot with a sniper, but Cloud would just heal himself and then cut the cheif in half with one swing. Cloud is stronger, faster, and more powerful than the cheif. And Cloud doesn’t have a steroid substance in him he was never in SOLDIER so he couldn’t of had Mako injected in him. He is a clone of Sephiroth and thus is naturaly powerfull, and any tactics that the cheif has is because he has an AI in his head.
February 4, 2009
#16
Well, cloud makes for an interesting challenge, one hit will probably smash chief. But a couple shots from chief and clouds down.
February 9, 2009
#17
Cloud can block bullets and heal. MC doesn’t stand a chance.
February 9, 2009
#18
cant cloud have a ton of full heal potions? I mean, if MC gets guns, cloud gets potions and its already over.
February 9, 2009
#19
Ya this needs more specifics, if cloud had potions it wouldnt be much of a fight. If he had magic, it would be interesting. But he would still probably win. If he didnt than Mc would win, given then right equipment. It would still be a challenge. Overall Cloud would win..
March 10, 2009
#20
MC would beat him easily… i think cloud is a cool character and all but MC would snip him in the face!
Winner: MC
March 12, 2009
#21
Cloud just uses shield magic……..duh
March 13, 2009
#22
Oh jeez, two of the most overrated video game characters of all time…the winner is whoever gets the most money from it…
August 29, 2009
#23
Advent Children…..Cloud took bullets and spit them back out (with help from his oversized Buster sword of course). I am giving this match to Cloud, mainly because his magic. MC is great, but Cloud magic would tip the match to his favor.
- pondering fool
September 4, 2009
#24
For every fight, I have one trump spell: stop
Cloud for factpile award!
October 3, 2009
#25
MC would have no chance against magic.
wall, slow, haste, bio and that is just the start.
October 31, 2009
#26
Mc would win magic is also a form of energy so his overshield can block it and you also forget Mc doesn’t have to use military weapon he can use covennent weapons alien weapons that would defently pawn Cloud and Spartans have fast reflexes and acrobatic skills They DO CRAZY SHIT so i give to Mc and nomnate him For Factpile Award.
October 31, 2009
#27
Are you seriously trying to suggest that all magic would be ignored because the Master Chief utilizes a primitive energy shield?
Regardless, Cloud has some defensive magicks to protect him against Chief’s weapons and considering the force with which he can slice with his sword, I am almost positive that it would take MC down in one blow.
October 31, 2009
#28
NO now your forgetting the Density of his armor and how many pounds of it he would have to get through plus as i said before MC reflexes are very refined in combat hes not weak and im not saying cloud is either but catching a spartan off guard isn’t easy if MC gets a blow in with his energy sword he could kill him and if i remeber correctly Energy can cut through that weapon he has .
October 31, 2009
#29
MC for FActpile Award.
October 31, 2009
#30
First of all, Cloud has near-bullet time (I don’t know how fast the bullets in AC were; MC’s are probably faster though) reactions, faster than MC’s, as MC lunges with the energy sword, Cloud could just jump over him and slice his head off among other things.
Remember, Cloud’s sword can cut through buildings. It even has a reach that is greater than the physical length of the sword. Even the physical impact of this would hurt MC a good deal, even disregarded the sword’s potential to slice him up.
Cloud’s spell “shield” provides considerable protection. While I might not be so generous with it as others, it certainly is an extremely powerful defensive spell
I.e I would much, MUCH rather be armorless with “shield” cast on me than have the Mjonlir armor (type of armor matters not).
Combine that with magicks that don’t do damage, but instill effects: like slow and poison for instance, and Cloud has this in the bag. Heck, I would agrue that Cloud could even beat General Grievous due to his magical capabilities.
October 31, 2009
#31
yes iv’e seen the movie with cloud and yes i saw him slice through a little but of parts of the building and if i remeber correctly i said alien weaponry he cant knock that away plus im sure MC would be able to keep up hes superhuman to an extent but hes more than qualified to keep up plus energy can slice through that blade his can’t , plus MC is physically stronger than cloud if he were to get a hit in he would most definently kill him . MC FOR FACTPILE AWARD
October 31, 2009
#32
“i said alien weaponry he cant knock that away”
what is this assumption that since its alien weaponry that cloud cant defend against it this is a man that defeats magic which use already started is a form of energy
October 31, 2009
#33
with clouds magic he could defend against it it’s also energy that doesn’t mean his magic last all the time . Theres alot mc could hit him with plus there fighting on the Ark or a very similar place and im sure that gives majority advantage to Mc . MC doesn’t even have to go at him he could snipe him with alien sniper rifle from a distance . MC FOR FACTPILE AWARD
October 31, 2009
#34
“MC doesn’t even have to go at him he could snipe him with alien sniper rifle from a distance .”
cloud doesnt need to go near Mc just summon up a monster to destroy him we all can come up with one hit situation this debate is to argue he has a overwhelming superiority in battle and to say if the majority agrees with this assumption and in this case it would be cloud
October 31, 2009
#35
Again strategy MC would take this what if that monster doesnt kill mc he just wasted a vastly amount of magic and mc would end him again he as more of the advantage so yes if MC were to snipe him this battle is over ! MC FOR FACTPILE AWARD
October 31, 2009
#36
of course FF characters are strong and they probable beat half the people on this site but MCs arsenal is to powerful for cloud to handle he has magic which puts them both at very equal superiority but im almost sure cloud cant take a bullet or plasma or a grenade . MC has better tactics in battle and make sure that each decision he makes is the right one , Cloud is more reckless in battle and can easily make a mistake because of his vulnerabiltiy .
October 31, 2009
#37
what if the monster did kill him or if it didnt MC would be greatly weakened from fighting it because he maybe superhuman but he’s not indestructible so apart from wasting some magic is on top fighting form against i tired and probaly damged MC
and if cloud cut his head off he would win by pointing out the same flawed plan again and again doesnt make you right
October 31, 2009
#38
He’s not cutting off his head only because every part of MCs armor is there to protect specific parts of the body the helmet is there to make sure to guard against decaptations and is reinforce by very very dense alloy so he would have to take at least alot swings at it in fact it might even break his sword and if that happened there both tired and probably not in there best condition but im sure mc would defently start shooting his way or needle him and its over.
October 31, 2009
#39
Zeppher you have still not provided a reason why any of MC’s arsenal would penetrate Cloud’s magical defensive spell called “Shield”
A sniper round would do absolutely nothing to him with this baby on. Cloud could then approach MC quickly, and then cast “slow” on him; making MC’s speed that of a normal human.
From there MC is dead-meat.
October 31, 2009
#40
Okay go with that plan but ur forgetting how dense his alloy is even if he did slow him down to a normal human speed MC would be able to grab that sword and break it in half and ur forgetting the most important factor he has the environment advantage which puts the battle in his favor wats stopping mc from putting traps anywhere or throwing down a bubble shield to protect him from his magic he can do all of that plus i’m positve that cloud would not catch him off guard for that to happen he would throw a plasma at the ground as soon as he is coming in close throw a bubble shield plasma destroys cloud mcs safe .
October 31, 2009
#41
That or Cloud could cast that “death” spell I’ve heard so much about from OriginalA, which causes instant… Death.
October 31, 2009
#42
since cloud can cut down buildings with his sword even MC armour would not be able to withstand a hit from it but that wasnt a battle plan only my attempt to show that you cant just say something and call it the end
you have yet come up with a strategy to insure MC win apart from shoot him to his dead
October 31, 2009
#43
theres nothing stopping cloud from using the same traps to kill MC
October 31, 2009
#44
ur right about that but he didn’t cut through a building he cut through a part of a building and just because he can do that doesnt mean he can cut through very VERY VERY dense alloy and yes i came up with several strategys to kill cloud .
1st. MC is in his similar environment cloud doesn’t know the environment but he will still looking around mc activate a plasma grenade and throws it at him now cloud doesn’t KNOW what a plasma greanade is so im pretty sure he wont react in the way you think he will it will probably stick him or he’ll dodge it but the blast is something he might get caught in so hes wounded know hes tired and plasma burns the body and keeps burning so its going to hurt him a great degree . mc would take out a plasma rifle and finish it but then cloud shield himself with magic but the power wont stay up for long cause he’s wounded mc breaks through the shield with plasma fire and kills him.
October 31, 2009
#45
theres seems to be a problem with the strategy instating cloud has a sheild how did he take damage from the plasma grenade to begin with to weaken cloud for MC to snipe him its more likely cloud would dodge the grenade entirely with sustaining damage anyway
December 3, 2009
#46
Are you people voting Chief ACTUALLY BATSHIT RETARDED????
Cloud takes entire clips of machine guns to the face and treats it like a hiccup, how could Master Cheif beat someone who:
Can take gunfire head and brush it off
ON TOP OF THIS he can block, dodge and deflect gunfire
Shoots fireballs/Ice stallegtites/Lightning bolts in fact most of these originate from inside you, summons meteorites and asteroids at you/Casts ailments Poisening/Shrinking/Blinding you etc
Turns you into a frog
Doubles his speed/Halves yours
STOPS TIME
Can inflict INSTA DEATH on you
Turn you to stone
Has pure energy slashes etc Blade beam/Omnislash/Finishing touch
Has a huge sword that feels like a toothpick to him
Is super fast and strong anyway
Infused with Alien god DNA and Sephiroth “Clone”
BEAT AND DESCENDED FROM SEPHIROTH THE ONE WINGED ANGEL
Need I go on???
I nominate Cloud to win, he PWNS MC.
December 3, 2009
#47
Cloud wins this for several reasons, but when has he in cutscene taken machine gun bullets to the face? Saying that some enemies he fights uses guns doesn’t count, since cutscenes in RPGs are the best and most reliable source of determining character strength since any bimbo JRPG character who fights enemies with guns gets shot by them…
I’m under the impression that unless he has magic equipped on himself, a few bullets to his skull would crush and destroy his brain from the force alone. He’s only augmented so much.
December 3, 2009
#48
If he was so weak to die from a bullet in the skull, his wrists would have shattered at blocking bullets with his sword. Didn’t happen. This also happened when he was without any defensive magic. Even with a an energy shield (and lets say it holds!) a blow from Cloud’s sword would hurl MC, and probably fracture a few bones. Now, the energy sword does break this shield. So now what will Cloud’s sword actually do? The answer is a lot.
I have to nominate Cloud for FP award.
December 3, 2009
#49
well, the chief can actually actually take some good punishment. Both of these combatants are highly advanced humans. Both equally elite in their universes among their peers, but cloud wins this.
To the bullet point, just remember how much force, and even more importantly, pressure a bullet at point blank range can provide. What genetic modifications has Cloud undergone to allow his brain to withstand these kinds of pressures? We are talking incredible amounts especially if he could survive entire clips of machine gun fire… A little hard to believe for me. He’s not THAT durable without his magic; he’s still human.
yet it’s moot, with Magic he can easily absorb chief’s best attacks while delivering his own (with his sword or with offensive magic)
I also nominate Cloud.
December 27, 2009
#50
if cloud summons knights of the round table the Chief is toast
May 26, 2010
#51
Its funny that both parties are trying to say their armor and defense makes them invincible or almost invincible, however, we know(and experienced…) that each of them have died plenty of times otherwise… their’s no such thing as game over. But there is, so we see who would win: human with the ability to control time, the elementals, various Gods. . .(summons) or the human with a laser gun and some tough armor. No matter how much sh*t you pull from *ss about Master Chiefs skill overcoming all obstacles, it just doesn’t make sense against because frankly you assume plasma bullets beat literally everything . The Na’vi prove you wrong