Suggested by Akibahara
Very simple.
The fight is set in Rapture, both fighters get their weapons and fight to the death.
Who wins?
Suggested by Akibahara
Very simple.
The fight is set in Rapture, both fighters get their weapons and fight to the death.
Who wins?
March 18, 2010
#1
So…how can any of you assume a needle will be able to get through Mc’s suit, and why would Mc allw the big sister to come up in close quarters combat.
And why wouldn’t Mc just try to brake the damn needle ?
March 18, 2010
#2
Actually thats true. MC would easily break the needle. All he has to do is grab and snap and there goes the main offensive weapon of the BS.
March 18, 2010
#3
“So…how can any of you assume a needle will be able to get through Mc’s suit, and why would Mc allw the big sister to come up in close quarters combat.
And why wouldn’t Mc just try to brake the damn needle ?”
FACEPLATE, its a strong screen but no where as tough as the rest of his armor, with the added advantage that is the only thing protecting his face and brain.
WATER, it’s rapture after all it surrounded by the stuff and we have seen the BS use it fight delta before, Master Chief weighs 1000lbs, so i dont see him swimming very much, he will also be slow moving, with the water moving against him, because it doesnt matter if he is super strong the more force he puts into his movements, the slower he will become.
March 18, 2010
#4
Umm. MC can grab the needle. I very much doubt the BS has the reaction time to get the needle out of the way in time to prevent it from being broken. Also it would be easy as i have said before for MC to dodge the needle.
March 18, 2010
#5
so how does this little needle snapping trick work, when the chief is underwater.
something no one has addressed yet, no matter how many times I point out the the BS could is easily flood an area, or suck mc out into the ocean, she’s done it before so not like its something new to her character.
March 18, 2010
#6
Umm due to the fact that the Mjolnir is operable underwater? That its more advanced than the antique diving suit the Big Sister uses? The fact that she may not be able to flood the area MC is in?
March 18, 2010
#7
the mjlonir may function underwater, but that doesnt mean it will be combat effective, especially if we take physics into account (you know him weighing a 1000lbs).
and it would not be too difficult for the BS, to draw MC to an area she can flood or breach, which is most of rapture, which show knows the layout of and has a gift for staying out of sight.
March 18, 2010
#8
“so how does this little needle snapping trick work, when the chief is underwater”
Why would the chief need to be under water ?
It’s not area specific, Mc and the big sister may fight in the central areas, you act as though every single corner of rapture is surrouned by water or near it.
March 18, 2010
#9
Motion sensor. Infrared vision. These are both available to MC.
March 18, 2010
#10
so if we go with happens with most matches, that in both fighters get some intel on each other, so the BS we learn that he an advanced super soldier from the future, not someone you will want to go hand to hand with.
so they may start of in a central area, but she could attempt draw him to an area better suited for her, (basic combat strategy) then she get him into the water where her speed and agility will come into play.
and there has also been nothing shown that the BS reaction speeds are any slower than of MC, she after all is genetically modified human as well, with access to greater number genetic treatments than MC.
March 18, 2010
#11
Wow you really want MC to lose. He has a 0.5 millisecond reaction time. 0.5! Significantly faster in combat situations. Also if by your words they get intell on each other than MC will notice she has a much better chance in water and prevent being lured to an area where she can flood.
March 18, 2010
#12
I believe that the Chief could be disoriented if Big Sister did her charge technique on the man. Even if it didn’t pierce, the blunt force would probably cause him to go back a few feet. Even IF the Chief wounds her serverely, they could teleport away in a purplish hue.
March 18, 2010
#13
“Wow you really want MC to lose. He has a 0.5 millisecond reaction time. 0.5! Significantly faster in combat situations. Also if by your words they get intell on each other than MC will notice she has a much better chance in water and prevent being lured to an area where she can flood.”
Unfortunately, she has teleport and local knowledge. If she wants the fight to happen in a risky area, Chief can’t do squat about it.
March 18, 2010
#14
What do you mean ?
Mc has doesn’t have to be lured if he doesn’t want to.
Mc can stay in one area, away from the water, if the big sister wants to go some where else, then mc may as well set up traps during that type period.
I’m pretty sure one shot from the massive 8 guage shotgun will kill the big sister.
March 23, 2010
#15
MC would crush the big sis 1 he has an ENERGY SHIELD!!!!!! 2 HE is the best strategist ever he is faster and IMMENSELY STRONGER 3 he can take two hunters at a time and people think that a big sis would beat him 4 given that he has a br and a shotgun well if he was just a stander man he would still pwn purely becuase br’s were designed to go threw SHIELD ELITE ARMOR AND FLESH hmmm lets sea big sister metal helmit and alot of flesh yeah mc would own her
March 23, 2010
#16
…MC fanboy…
lol
March 25, 2010
#17
good fight here but i would give it to the chief… if he went into ” Spartan Mode” then the fight would be Mcs but that would prolly be the only way
April 3, 2010
#18
Fanboys will be the end of us all.
First mc cannot use plasmids, I don’t need to explain why and if I do I have lost all faith in mankind.
Second BS can just go get a lightning plasmid and drain his sheilds.
Third, rapture is underwater so water will be readily available.
Fourth MC cannot fight underwater, it’s physics.
BS owns this enciorment so she has a huge enviornment.
And the telekinesis isn’t effected by the users strength, she can easily lift MC.
April 3, 2010
#19
@ reaper
Yeah that’s why the big sister in bioshock 2 always tried to lure subject delta underwater. Sarcasm.
And so you just assume the lightning plasmid is capable of draining mc’s shields when it’s not even capable of killing a big daddy in one burst.
And what we’re all going to assume Mc won’t use his agility and speed to keep the big sister from hitting him ?
CIS, in bioshock 2,the big sister never even bothered to even lift any biotic creature with its telekinesis, if they never bothered to do that with subject delta, why would they just all of a sudden start with MC ?
A simple 8 guage shotgun will do the trick. If not then the br to the head will.
The ammunition from the br is designed to penertrate body armor and is efficient against energy shields.
One headshot is all it takes.
April 4, 2010
#20
So your logic is that just because try never tried it they won’t do it, really?
What is the power drain in halos effect, it kills sheilds, what is it, electricity.
You probably haven’t heard but a thing called logic just popped out of nowhere. It is extremely useful, try it.
Now the big sister is not some hulking beast, it’s very agile, as seen in gameplay and cutscene.
Show me proof that one shot from the shotgun will kill BS. The shotgun in B2 won’t kill it, and the shotguns from ww2 haven’t changed much, the halo one is the same as the one we have now.
And what’s stopping her from shattering the glass and submerging mc. Nothing. Surehe cam survive, but he can’t move or swim. He will sink to the bottom like an overrated rock.
April 25, 2010
#21
Ah, but in the books, it’s stated that the MJOLNIR armor can float. It doesn’t in the games because that’s a gameplay feature. Chief is faster, stronger, has better equipment, and can find her via his Motion Tracker. The Power Drain item was Covenant-made, therefore most likely uses something other than electricity, seeing as how they’d most likely found a better substitute, so electricity won’t do much to his shields. Even if it did, she still can’t peirce his armor. The black suit under the armor? Bulletproof. And the armor itself is FAR more durable. the Big Sister can teleport, but really, once she’s finally hit, a single round from pretty much any weapon will leave her a stain on the floor.
May 7, 2010
#22
mc will win i know i should give big sister her props but mc would win
May 14, 2010
#23
The energy drainer from halo uses an advance electromagnetic pulse, it is not the same thing as simply electrocuting someone. Electrocuting MC may damage his shielding, but I doubt it packs enough of a punch to shatter it.
As for the argument against BS using her telekinetic abilities, that’s just silly. After getting her ass handed to her by a futuristic super soldier, she’s going to use everything at her disposal. However, I believe she’ll be dead before she even realizes she’s fucked.
Also, I haven’t heard a single weapon that BS has that would be useful against MC. With the exception of telekinesis, which I believe would be a last resort if she isn’t prone to using it in the game.
Also I may feel a little ignorant upon hearing the answer, but why can’t MC acquire and utilize plasmids?
Lastly, I have a rebuttal for the somewhat flimsy argument pertaining to flooding the room. MC can manipulate the buoyancy of his suit, and considering he is stronger and faster on the ground he can likely swim just as efficiently. Not that I believe the battle would get that far. Secondly many modern weapons of today can not only fire after being submersed but can fire while submerged so, I really don’t see this helping BS as much as you seem to think it will.
May 14, 2010
#24
“Show me proof that one shot from the shotgun will kill BS. The shotgun in B2 won’t kill it, and the shotguns from ww2 haven’t changed much, the halo one is the same as the one we have now. ”
The shotguns in halo use the 8 gauge, much more powerful than the 12 gauge.
“So your logic is that just because try never tried it they won’t do it, really?
What is the power drain in halos effect, it kills sheilds, what is it, electricity.
You probably haven’t heard but a thing called logic just popped out of nowhere. It is extremely useful, try it. ”
And there’s something called character induced stupidity, If the big sister never bothered to light subject delta with Telekinesis, then why would she all of a sudden want to do it with MC ?
If anything both Subject delta and MC may weight 1000 pounds.
May 18, 2010
#25
In BS2 (Bioshock 2) a solid round from the shotgun hardly evan tickles the BS(Big Sister). What makes you think a 8 guage is gonna do any thing. Does much of anything from the books affect gameplay, not really. Ingnore the fluff and go for the crunch. the stuff that actualy maters while your playing the game. The BS did use telekinisius on Delta, by pulling him through a secruris door. Its a reinforced metal door, its not gonna break if MC or a Big Daddy/Sister punches it. And she uses telekinises to regularly throw heavy oversized objects at you. And the Big Sister also pulls in human sized enemies with telekinises. MC being no execption. Also her needle can punch metal and other materials without breaking. A BS also has a host of ohter plasmids besides Telekineses and Teleportation, eg. the incenerate plasmid.
May 18, 2010
#26
Mc has the same physical advantages that the BS has. He can break through metal with his fists, he can throw heavy oversized objects with ease(Scorpion tank weighs like 1-2 tons maybe and he can flip it with one hand). I think MC can just sprint towards the BS with no weapons and beat the pulp out of it.
May 18, 2010
#27
Flipping scorpion tanks is a game mechanic. doesnt count other then that youve got his strength right.
if MC tried to bom rush a BS the plasmid shit storm hed get would be hell.
but MC has this because the BS has no heavy armor.
May 19, 2010
#28
mc can brake the dame needle in 1 second remeber this mc runs 10000 mils per hour
May 19, 2010
#29
“mc can brake the dame needle in 1 second remeber this mc runs 10000 mils per hour”
no, just simply no he cant
May 19, 2010
#30
Plasmids can’t even fully burn a Splicer, so my assumption is that they wouldn’t do jack shit to MC’s shielding or armor…
May 19, 2010
#31
“mc can brake the dame needle in 1 second remeber this mc runs 10000 mils per hour”
WTF
I though his max was under 100?
May 19, 2010
#32
“Plasmids can’t even fully burn a Splicer, so my assumption is that they wouldn’t do jack shit to MC’s shielding or armor…”
Then again splicers take 50 cal. headshots and continue, I think they’re pretty tough.
May 19, 2010
#33
Well that’s obviously a game mechanic but seriously can we prove Incinerate could even burn MC through all of that plating? I mean the most damage I’ve seen it do is a bit of surface damage generally meant to deter any Splicers present
May 19, 2010
#34
Chiefs max speed is under 30 mph. I hate fanboys.
But it appears that Chief won this one.
May 19, 2010
#35
“Well that’s obviously a game mechanic”
But they are heavily spliced, how do we know that dosent increase their durability?
May 19, 2010
#36
True true, I guess it is…but then again MC is an enhanced supersoldier with “unbreakable” bones
May 19, 2010
#37
“Chiefs max speed is under 30 mph.”
This is funny, it really is.
Their NORMAL speed is roughly 34 MPH, Master Chief was capable of a short burst of 65 MPH while in the Mark 5(Albeit it tore his Achilles tendon).
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Spartan_Augmentations
“but then again MC is an enhanced supersoldier with “unbreakable” bones”
‘nearly’. Spartans have broken bones before.
June 13, 2010
#38
has anyone thought that water conducts electricity mc in water bs uses electric plasmid mc is toast
June 15, 2010
#39
oh and MC does not have to be lured any were BS can bring the water to him after all she can brake glass and just let the water rape him
June 15, 2010
#40
“‘nearly’. Spartans have broken bones before.”
After falling from great heights and sustaining injuries that would normally kill a man due to immense pain.
Mc has remained in combat many times despite suffering from such injuries.
June 26, 2010
#41
These are both formidable foes, and this fight would be interesting. However, I think that the Big Sister would take this one, but not by much. I will start with MC: He cannot float unless mortally injured. In HALO 1, 2, and 3, he can function only slightly sluggishly under water. however, he cannot swim, nor see out of the surface. He is easily killed by fire or explosions, his energy shield are burned through quickly by it. If BS was to use the `Incinerate’ plasmid on him, it could deal some significant damage. Her needle could be broken, however, if a well place stab (between the breast plate and the waist plate could do some damage, especially since it is rather rusted. Also, if she were to inject the EVE/ADAM mixture used to prepare patients for their first plasmid into MC, he could easily go into the traumatic state seen in the beginning of Bioshock, when Jack gets this injection. Atlas distinctly says this happens to ALL HUMANS on there first injection. There is other evidence to support BC’s victory, but i think this is enough for now. Like I said, she would not win by much, but she would win.