Suggested by CorvosKK
Here we have perhaps one of the most evenly matched battles to ever appear on FactPile. Both fighters are proficient with bows, both are excellent using the blade, and they can each wield magic. This is a tough match for yours truly since Link is one of the best video game characters of all time, and frequent readers here know that I am a total freak about the Sword of Truth/Legend of the Seeker franchise.
So dear reader, who wins this fight?
UPDATE: Check out this great summary from Teesee, who runs a great Legend of the Seeker fan site.
UPDATE 2: Forget about any kid version of Link. Use the Twilight Princess Version for this match.
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January 26, 2010
#1
I saw my first episode the other day. not knowing any previous backstory, the show feels like an updated Hercules/Xena type of show.
January 26, 2010
#2
@Matapiojo – On the surface, I could see why it looks that way. If you have the time, Hulu.com has the entire first season and all season 2 episodes so far. I have to admit that even as a fan of the books, it took me about 5 episodes to really get into it.
January 26, 2010
#3
Don’t get me wrong. I liked the Herc/Xena shows just fine. Was not meant as a barb or anything as I am sure it would take me a full 3 episodes less than you to get into it (yes, I am a TV whore). It just was not what I expected. I thought they would create a format more akin to the Eragon or Narnia movies that got so much popularity at the time.
January 27, 2010
#4
“I thought they would create a format more akin to the Eragon or Narnia movies that got so much popularity at the time.”
Considering the general opinion on the Eragon movie, I don’t think very many are going to want to be following in its footsteps. Narnia, probably, but not Eragon.
Getting back to the debate between Link and Richard, who would in a battle of craftiness? Link’s puzzle solving skills and boss-weakness finding mastery against Rahl’s charisma and cunning?
January 27, 2010
#5
i sincerely doubt Link can out-crafty Richard. Not only is Richard the Seeker of Truth, but he out-craftied Darken Rahl, one of the most cunning villians of all time, convinced an angry dragon to help him by figuring out her deepest desire, and manipulated half the Palace of the Prophets to the point where they abandoned their oaths to Jagang or independence as Sisters and swore fealty to him!
February 9, 2010
#6
I’ve only read the final book in the series (Confessor, picked it up thinking it was a stand alone, then read it all anyway.), but nothing in that book seems to put Richard on the scale Link is on. Especially physicly. I hear he’s very powerful magicly, but Link’s sword can deflect magic, as has been shown many times, Physicly.. Well.. Link managed to peg an inch thick wooden pole in TP with a bow at about a half mile distance. Richard Rahl managed to –…
SPOILER ALERT
managed to miss Jagang’s heart from the centre of a Ja la pitch to the edge where Jagang’s tent was.
NO MOAR SPOILERS:
I think Link could easily kill Richard before he got close enough to use magic, and if he did, deflect it, and kill Richard with his superior strength.
February 9, 2010
#7
“Link managed to peg an inch thick wooden pole in TP with a bow at about a half mile distance. Richard Rahl managed to –…
SPOILER ALERT
managed to miss Jagang’s heart from the centre of a Ja la pitch to the edge where Jagang’s tent was.”
He only missed because Jagang moved at the wrong moment. The shot itself was perfect. If you read the earlier books, you’d find out that Richard’s archery skills are a lot more extreme than the evidence in Confessor suggests.
For example, in the second book, Richard:
1) Continuously got “shaft-shots”, splitting an arrow already in a target with another arrow. He racked up over a hundred of these.
2) Was able to hit a man at one hundred yards, and expressed with confidence he could have done the same at three times that distance.
3) Shot another person’s arrow out of midair with one of his own arrows.
4) Caught an arrow that was shot at him out of the air.
5) Split six arrows on top of each other in six shots.
6) Shaved the fletchings off of an arrow already in the target with perfect shots.
Richard actually can use his magic to increase the accuracy of his shots. His archery skills are extreme.
“I think Link could easily kill Richard before he got close enough to use magic, and if he did, deflect it, and kill Richard with his superior strength.”
Richard doesn’t need to be close to a target to use magic. He can fire magical projectiles such as wizard’s fire, lightning, Subtractive blasts, etc. from a distance.
Also, the Sword of Truth has shown the ability to block/deflect magic just as the Master Sword has, in similar fashion.
February 11, 2010
#8
I thknk that Link would win from the suprise factor from carrying faries would give him. Richard manages to kill Link, farie revive Link plus heals injuries to an extent and while Richard has those few moment of surprise Link deals a killing blow. After all from what I have read so far ressurrection does not occur on a regular basis in SoT.
Also which sword would trump the other, both are powerfull magical artifacts capable of reflecting magic, except one was created by wizards and the other is a devine creation. Personally I think devinely made sword would have a degree of superiority over that of a man made sword. Also how would the Triforce of Courage effect this fight being a devine power that is constantly with Link?
Even though TP Link has no inherent magical abilities of his own he is use to fighting opponent that do, Ganon, Zant etc. So even though Richard’s magic gives him an edge I don’t think it will be as much of a deciding factor as the more veteren SoT fans would believe.
February 11, 2010
#9
““Link managed to peg an inch thick wooden pole in TP with a bow at about a half mile distance. Richard Rahl managed to –…
SPOILER ALERT
managed to miss Jagang’s heart from the centre of a Ja la pitch to the edge where Jagang’s tent was.”
He only missed because Jagang moved at the wrong moment. The shot itself was perfect. If you read the earlier books, you’d find out that Richard’s archery skills are a lot more extreme than the evidence in Confessor suggests.
For example, in the second book, Richard:
1) Continuously got “shaft-shots”, splitting an arrow already in a target with another arrow. He racked up over a hundred of these.
2) Was able to hit a man at one hundred yards, and expressed with confidence he could have done the same at three times that distance.
3) Shot another person’s arrow out of midair with one of his own arrows.
4) Caught an arrow that was shot at him out of the air.
5) Split six arrows on top of each other in six shots.
6) Shaved the fletchings off of an arrow already in the target with perfect shots.
Richard actually can use his magic to increase the accuracy of his shots. His archery skills are extreme.
“I think Link could easily kill Richard before he got close enough to use magic, and if he did, deflect it, and kill Richard with his superior strength.”
Richard doesn’t need to be close to a target to use magic. He can fire magical projectiles such as wizard’s fire, lightning, Subtractive blasts, etc. from a distance.
Also, the Sword of Truth has shown the ability to block/deflect magic just as the Master Sword has, in similar fashion.”
Then they may be equals with a bow. In a ranged fire fight, my money is still on Link, however.
His arrows would be much faster due to his super-human strength. (and can be seen benefitting from this in WW, where they go through hurricane force winds, and in OoT when Link fires an arrow to the sun.), on top of this, the magical properties Link can bestow on these arrows are pretty spiffy. An ice arrow can freeze a volcano, and a fire arrow can end an eternal blizzard. Richard wouldn’t be able to catch or survive one of those. Link in TP slashes arrows out of the air, and in MM, he’s forced to deal with a flurry of super-sonic attacks. (Majora’s ridiculous super whips.)
Evne if Richard shot Link, I don’t think it would do much, as he has some pretty awesome durability showings.
-WW survives a point blank blast that laucnhes him miles away to the tower of the gods.
-OoT is unharmed by a strike from Ganon whihc disarms him. (sounds less impressive than it is. Consider how strong Link is with the golden gauntlet,s and how much force it would take to disarm him. It would liquify a regular human.)
-In TP, is fired at the ground from a cannon in the sky.
-MM, survives the destruction of the moon.
-WW, we get a cutscene showing Ganon beatign the crap out of Link, who is fine. (inhuman durability+1!)
As for Richards magic; Link can walk around in lava without much trouble, as well as having pretty good magical defenses.
Overall, my money remains on Link.
February 11, 2010
#10
“As for Richards magic; Link can walk around in lava without much trouble, as well as having pretty good magical defenses.
Overall, my money remains on Link.”
You make good points, but according to the rules, this is TP Link only, so the feats of the others wouldn’t come into play.
February 21, 2010
#11
I can’t tell who would win. I’m more on the side of Richard because he has powerful magic and Link without his items is not going to do well against him. The sword of Truth bestows the power from all the past Seekers to Richard. All Link really has is the Master Sword but I think the Sword of truth is better. It can deflect magic and Richard, with his sword glowing white, is nearly unstoppable since I read that he killed more or about a dozen warriors coming at him at the same time. I am going with the one true Seeker, Richard.
February 21, 2010
#12
The thing with Link is that he is more cartoonish. In real life like Richard, with human weaknesses not being able to survive in lava, he wouldn’t stand a chance. He has that advantage but is not better than Richard. Absolutely not.
February 21, 2010
#13
“You make good points, but according to the rules, this is TP Link only, so the feats of the others wouldn’t come into play.”
One of the levels in TP is inside a dormant volcano, link is less than a foot away from lava at some times.
February 22, 2010
#14
“All Link really has is the Master Sword but I think the Sword of truth is better. It can deflect magic and Richard, with his sword glowing white, is nearly unstoppable since I read that he killed more or about a dozen warriors coming at him at the same time. I am going with the one true Seeker, Richard.”
Richard cannot and will not use the White Magic as his main weapon. He can only use it on either A) Someone that he loves, or B) Someone who he forgives entirely for everything. Even when he can use it, he is still very reluctant to and only does so when he has no other option, because killing with the White Magic causes far worse anguish than killing with the rage aspect, and he cannot protect himself from it with anger that way.
Also, Richard didn’t defeat a dozen people coming at him at once. He defeated a group of thirty that came at him two or three at a time, one by one.