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Legend of Zelda Vs Halo
Legend of Zelda Vs Halo

Here’s another universe match which puts magic against technology. For this battle, all games of the Zelda franchise are to be considered as cannon.

That being said, I am not sure that there is a clear cut winner in this fight – the Halo universe might have the numbers advantage, but in a lot of cases, magic seems to prevail.

What say you?

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  • OriginalA
    February 25, 2010
    #1

    “The fact remains they (the goddesses) haven’t been seen or heard of for a very long time and their exact capabilities can’t be nailed down. ”

    1) They were stated to have ordered the Light Spirites to Hyrule to stop the war against the interlopers in Twilight Princess’s backstory and flashback.
    2) They may be reincarnating themselves as various peoples of the same name in the world. In Minish Cap there was Din, Nayru, and Farore; three sisters looking for a place to live. Din was from Sabrosia and was of Garudo descent, Nayru was from Lybria and of Hylian descent, and Farore appeared to be a Kokiri outside of the forest (which I belive is sappose to kill them). Later, in TP we have three fan-girls with the same hair colors as the goddesses all of Hylian descent. Then in Oracles we have the Oracles of the same race as they were in Minish Cap, of unknown origin or connection to each other [other than they all shared the title of Oracle, but so did Zelda so yeah..] and Din being placed in Sabrosia, Nayru in Lybria, and Farore inside a great tree spirit that is within each country (much like the Great Deku Tree of Hyrule). The goddesses are very much active in the world of Hyrule; they just pose as mortals.
    3) They created an omnipotent object with a fraction of their power as well as: matter from nothing
    gravity before the laws of physics were established
    alternerate dimensions
    instant and spontanious life
    and existance beyond the concept of time.

    Also there is the Spirit of Law who is constantly enforcing physics in Zelda U. He could just “turn off” physics and have every split apart because the magnetic field that binds all things together doesn’t work anymore.

    Then there is the goddess of time, and that is a whole ‘nother muck ball all together.

    These dieties are “unseen” because what they do is so constantly preformed that if they were ever to cease to do their work all of reality would fall apart as we know it and only the abstract beings (like these dieties) would survive it.

  • L-W
    February 25, 2010
    #2

    A NOVA warhead would not necessarily shatter a planet, but even low end estimations of a surface detonation would make all but the most resilient of microscopic life nearly impossible.

    We’re talking about continental slagging, a fireball over four thousand kilometers in diameter, a shockwave that travels so fast that it eventually becomes a plasma bow wave as it hits the atmosphere, vaporizing everything within tens of thousands of kilometers. Earthquakes that would shift the tectonic plates. Columns of vaporized water up to ten kilometers in height. Tsunamis that would engulf entire landmasses.

    The atmosphere would be reduced to a super-heated toxic cloud, vast columns of vaporized water would fall as acid rain, billions of tons of debris would fall across the planet in jets of plasma and every forest, building or grassy field across the planet would ignite, the surface would be covered in mile wide sections of debris and soot; all of which would result in atmospheric loading that would block out the sun for decades.

    A total global extinction event. All complex forms of life are destroyed.

  • Sparks
    February 25, 2010
    #3

    I saw in another debate with Link awhile back, and someone mentioned a time-freezing staff that was present in one of the games, or some sort of time freezing item. Anyone who has played through all of the installments know anything of that sort? I’ve only played the N64 versions pretty much.

  • Nintendopwns
    February 25, 2010
    #4

    @Cpt Olimar Thank you. It is not a fight if it starts out with a nuke.
    It still reduces alot of dmg…
    over 100 heart pieces,A huge percentile dmg reduction,4 swords,Several dozen fairies in bottles(x4),Fierce Deity Link,Ocarina of Time,Power Bracelet ,Golden Gauntlets.
    Seems like a god to me…
    Ocarina of Time, he can reverse time,he can change the weather,he can summon animals.(Zelda wins by Default btw)
    But lets take out the big nukes and gods to make this interesting.

  • Nintendopwns
    February 25, 2010
    #5

    Wait, no we have to take link out to.He would kill all the ground troops by himself.

  • Nintendopwns
    February 25, 2010
    #6

    @LW I didn’t think it destroyed planets.
    In theory couldn’t the gods just reform the planet from the nuke in several seconds?

  • L-W
    February 25, 2010
    #7

    No nuclear warheads.

    But plasma torpedoes and MAC rounds do an equally stellar job at razing the atmosphere of a planet (if not over a significantly longer period of time), just throw in a standard fleet of a hundred and Hyrule would be reduced to a barren molten husk within minutes.

  • L-W
    February 25, 2010
    #8

    “LW I didn’t think it destroyed planets.”

    No fucking shit moron, the comment would not seem so redundant if I hadn’t posted the very same thing and explained my reasons why in a previous post. You know, provided evidence and such.

  • Nintendopwns
    February 25, 2010
    #9

    @LW I’m not good with math what would a 3/4,1/2,1/2,and 1/2 dmg reduction=?
    Hyrule itself would be, but the like of Ganon,Link,Zelda(maybe),and the Triforce would most likely survive.

  • OriginalA
    February 25, 2010
    #10

    .75 * .5 * .5 * .5 = 0.09375

    1/64

  • Nintendopwns
    February 25, 2010
    #11

    @OriginalA thank you. So you are the most informed on Nintendo on these forums correct?
    so 1/64 dmg taken?Nah that is off and if that is true he is even more overpowered than I thought.
    (@Everyone I like confirming things and would preferred not to be insulted for wanting to know more. You should be more than glad to give this information being this place is called Factpile.)

  • OriginalA
    February 25, 2010
    #12

    I wouldn’t say I’m the most informed. I just like a lot of Nintendo games. Aside from that that was just basic math, and actually Link has had more damage reduction items than the amount you listed. If they all stack then he would actually take even less damage.

    NOVA bomb would still kill every non-abstract diety on the planet though. So would an orbital bombardment. Link and Zelda would not survive. Ganon would only because he can survive in an abstract form as seen in TP when his body is destroyed and he exists as a soul.

  • Nintendopwns
    February 25, 2010
    #13

    A NOVA bomb is cheap as the gods remove all nukes and gods and confine to planet.
    I know link has several other items that reduce dmg, but I thought they where temporary.
    (I just don’t like the excuse we blowz your planetz up we win…nuh-uh wez immortal)

  • cyborg pirate ninja jesus
    February 25, 2010
    #14

    ok i did a little bit of reading about the godesses. and as far as i found the triforce pieces are required for someone to make a wish to them…however considering they had great power before these things were around(as far as i know) and are still able to act on their own.

    so while it seems that for someone to make a wish they need the pices, the godessess have enough power to do the exact same thing without them if they wanted to…

    p.s. im sorry if its hard to read im on a lot of painkillers atm

  • OriginalA
    February 25, 2010
    #15

    Orbital bombardment ends with the same result.

    In a fight without space ships or gods or the triforce or Ganon (he kinda is a god you know) then Halo U would still win. Link would be the only warrior capable of defeating any of the even most basic troops.

    Hyrule soldiers are laughably incompetent; afraid of a mere wolf. How well do you think they well against an organised and disciplined military with advanced weapons and armored vehicals? This is sticks and stones vs tanks and missiles!

    Most of the other countries have no known standing armies. The only known military forces aside from the Hyrule guard are the Sheikah, who are extremely few and mostly shadow operatives, and the Garudo, who are far too few.

    Now the Sheikah are supposably competant but they are few and against people who have tech that allows them to be invisable and have weapons that can kill you from up to 2 miles away.

    Link wouldn’t be able to survive a group assult either. You put even 50 well armed troops around him and he will die unless he uses massive amounts of magic. Now I’m aware of several of his spells that would allow him to easily dispatch 50 troops, but he would have to do this days and days, and weeks and weeks, and months and months on end. Eventually he would fall asleep and then the Halo U people could do something like put him in a gravity beam, bring him up into a Spectar, put the Spectar into orbit, then destroy it. Link can survive a lot of things (mostly because of game mechanics and rule of fun) but one thing that is consistantly shown is that he requires air to survive and being EVA in space would kill him in short order and no amount of magic spells that he has or damage reduction protection would change that.

    Outside of godly forces, Link and Ganon are the ONLY people that could put up any significant amount of fight that couldn’t be taken down within a few minutes, and even then Link is still killable. Ganon has the whole cheat death thing unless his soul is injurd so… yeah.

  • cyborg pirate ninja jesus
    February 25, 2010
    #16

    @original a

    how does orbital bombardment end with the same result as the triforce making halo u non existent…

    anyway since there arent any specifications about whether or not their are gods. other than this being the entire universe then i think we have to include gods…which makes it a win for zelda

  • OriginalA
    February 25, 2010
    #17

    orbital bombardment ends with the same result as a nova bomb, and I was discussing the option under the assumption that the higher abstract dieties and the triforce were sitting this fight out.

    Three omnipotent goddesses and/or omnipotent object > some random planet buster or galactic life ender.

  • cyborg pirate ninja jesus
    February 25, 2010
    #18

    ok sorry……i blame the drugs.hehehe but yeah without higher deities halo wins easy

  • Nintendopwns
    February 25, 2010
    #19

    I think link would stop around month 6 in killing before losing all energy, he has all that power with every single canon.
    Yea,ZeldaU wins by default.. I just don’t like how page one just kept chanting nuke they could’ve at least trying to be creative like OriginalA was which seems far more likely then a strait out nuke.But if they get a nuke we keep gods.(even with gods Ganon as stated several times)

  • L-W
    February 25, 2010
    #20

    “@LW I’m not good with math what would a 3/4,1/2,1/2,and 1/2 dmg reduction=?”

    Are you suggesting that an abstract concept such as magic nullification would have a significant personal effect on the Earth ending energies that either the UNSC or Covenant are capable of mustering?

    Half a teraton of energy is still half a teraton of energy (as in kill hundreds of millions of innocents upon release), a toxic cloud of super-heated debris followed by kilometer wide plumes of plasma is still enough render all life barring a few of the simpler organisms obliterated.

  • L-W
    February 25, 2010
    #21

    “Yea,ZeldaU wins by default.. I just don’t like how page one just kept chanting nuke they could’ve at least trying to be creative like OriginalA was which seems far more likely then a strait out nuke.But if they get a nuke we keep gods.(even with gods Ganon as stated several times)”

    You do realize you sound like a complete pussy right now, right?

  • OriginalA
    February 25, 2010
    #22

    Re-read page one again. I say Zelda gods > all in each post I sent. That is no differant that the others saying “nuke nuke nuke”.

    Link has never fought for 6 months non-stop in canon. The most he ever did was a couple of days in Majora’s Mask. Aside from that his magic would run out around the 12th day at which point he would be killed within an hour due to overwhelming firepower. His invulnerability spells are the things that are keeping him alive and once those run out he will die. Sure he might be able to draw it out to an hour for his last stand with his time magic, but he would still fall in the end.

    And he is against litterally billions of enemies that all have more advanced weapons than him.

    Again, without the abstracts and while limiting Halo U to just ground forces Zelda U falls …. hard.

    But that doesn’t matter as the rules for this particular match is current incarnation and without handicap so Zelda gets their dieties.

    ….

    It might be possible that Zelda U could survive by default because they have a split timeline and thus exist in a parallel reality to themselves that isn’t directly affected by the other reality; unless both timelines are under attack by Halo U, in which case they are screwed without abstracs.

    @Cyborg pirate ninja crystal dragon raptor jesus
    No worries. I know you just overlooked an easily missed comment.

  • cyborg pirate ninja jesus
    February 25, 2010
    #23

    “@Cyborg pirate ninja crystal dragon raptor jesus”

    man…i got upgrades…and am actually considering changing ma name to that

  • Nintendopwns
    February 25, 2010
    #24

    12 days huh.That is still impressive for a mere mortal none the less.
    ZeldaU for factpile award.
    “You do realize you sound like a complete pussy right now, right?”
    Hollow words for someone that can say something far more intelligent.

  • cyborg pirate ninja jesus
    February 25, 2010
    #25

    sorry couldnt find a pic to use as ma gravatar im stuck with regular me for now

  • OriginalA
    February 25, 2010
    #26

    Click here for more ideas
    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NinjaPirateZombieRobot

    Your name would actually be a good example of that trope.

  • cyborg pirate ninja jesus
    February 25, 2010
    #27

    i also nom zelda for the fp award

  • cyborg pirate ninja jesus
    February 25, 2010
    #28

    thanks but…ill think ill keep mine …for now.

  • L-W
    February 25, 2010
    #29

    “Hollow words for someone that can say something far more intelligent.”

    Would it be more apt to say that I find your standard of division on principle to be a weak kneed attempt at subverting any true form of debate; and that the gaping maw you call a vagina is doing more to subvert the discussion than anything or anyone else due to some bizarre tit-for-tat moral standard that stands in the way of logical parsimony.

    Debates aren’t presented on what we consider to be fair, or what we consider to be even, they are instead presented on what is objective. This argument basically claims that because the Halo side has numerous built-in technological advantages over the lesser citizens of Hyrule, it’s not a fair fight. But this is a pretty strange definition of “fair fight.” If we decide that a fight is only fair when the two contestants are evenly matched, then all fair fights will end in a draw. Does this make sense? I don’t know about everyone else, but my definition of a fair fight is one in which the two contestants have to play by the same rules. The two contestants don’t have to be evenly matched.

  • Nintendopwns
    February 25, 2010
    #30

    @LW work on your insults to be less sex based, you don’t know anyone’s sex over the internet.
    So you classify a guy with a automatic gun and a normal person with no way to defend himself fair?

  • cyborg pirate ninja jesus
    February 25, 2010
    #31

    @L-W

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    @nintendopwns

    flameflameflameflameflameflameflameflameflameflameflameflameflameflameflameflameflameflameflameflameflameflameflameflameflameflame

    i believe i may have just saved a whole lot of time with this…or not

  • Nintendopwns
    February 25, 2010
    #32

    Well I’m not flaming…

  • orpheus12
    February 25, 2010
    #33

    You guys need to prove how the Zelda universe would win.
    As L-W said the haloverse could simply perform Orbital bombardment, the Prophets have been known to be able to summon and entire fleet of Covenant ships that can range from hundreds to thousands. (If I’m correct) I believe this event happened during halo 2 when MC assassinated the Prophet of Rgret.
    Are you guys able to provide anything that would allow the Zelda universe to counter this ?

  • Kenny C.
    February 25, 2010
    #34

    The wish scenario is really faulty, in that the Zelda planet wouldn’t even know that they’re being attacked until half the planet is already slag.

  • TheSorrow
    February 25, 2010
    #35

    Zelda:”Link here is the last piece of the Trifor- /head gets blown off by a sniper.
    It wouldn’t happen that way in the fight, but I would love to see it.

  • L-W
    February 25, 2010
    #36

    1) “@LW work on your insults to be less sex based, you don’t know anyone’s sex over the internet.”

    You don’t have to be either male or female to behave like a giant gaping vagina of stupid.

    2) “So you classify a guy with a automatic gun and a normal person with no way to defend himself fair?”

    Is it incredibly lopsided? Yes. But do both combatants understand the rules presented to them? I consider it a fair fight as long as both fighters understand the nature of the fight and obey the same rules. It would be an incredible mismatch, but it would still be a fair fight.

    Your pansy equivelant of fairness on the other hand is counter intuitive to logical parsimony.

  • cyborg pirate ninja jesus
    February 26, 2010
    #37

    “The wish scenario is really faulty, in that the Zelda planet wouldn’t even know that they’re being attacked until half the planet is already slag” that implies that the haloverse is getting a head start in theis match because for some reason they are the only ones that know they are going to war.

    and there is no need to wish. since its entire haloverse vs entire zeldaverse the gods are able to be a part. and since they already have the power to grant the wish there is no logical reason why they couldnt do the exact same thing by themselves…(without the wish even being thought of by the inhabitants of hyrule”

  • xGrymFangx
    July 5, 2010
    #38

    any type of arguement that involves magic and military trained bionic or supersoldiers is kinda pointless when a someone like masterchief can survive loads of bullets, let alone earths gravitational friction when he fell through the atmosphere, really what is a man in green tights, a fairy, sword and sheild can do…..boomerang vs pistol, bomb vs grenade launcher (brute Shot), arrows vs Assault rifle, really what is stoping link from losing this fight… magic has its limits, and link is not a full on magic person

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