A little twist to the duels category. For this match, it takes place on the original Island of Jurassic Park, with the invading aliens starting with a Queen and 100 warriors.
Which race would win?
A little twist to the duels category. For this match, it takes place on the original Island of Jurassic Park, with the invading aliens starting with a Queen and 100 warriors.
Which race would win?
May 12, 2009
#1
i dont know much about aliens…but i think that all the predators in jurassic park would be a little bit too much for them to handle
May 12, 2009
#2
and i dont mean “predator” the alien
May 12, 2009
#3
Aliens most likely. Many would be able to avoid the attack of the larger dinosaurs with their maneuverability and smarts, or even take them down in packs (although I don’t know how many their are). If the queen was kept safe long enough, she’d soon be pumping out eggs that would inevitably take care of the remained dinosaurs. Then it’s only a matter of time before we get a hideous hive of DINO-MORPHS.
May 12, 2009
#4
What can the dinos do to combat the acid?
May 12, 2009
#5
Aliens would win, they are much more lethal and they can make dino-xenomorphs with the dino’s who would probably be even more fierce.
if a T-rex or any other for that matter would bite down on a xenomorph, he’d get a mouth full of acid and die.
May 12, 2009
#6
stampede the aliens until they reach queen?
May 12, 2009
#7
The difference is also that while the xenomorphs will go out and work as a team to find more prey, the dino’s will all stick with their own species and stay at their huntinggrounds leaving them all scattered and easier to pick off.
May 12, 2009
#8
This is a great match up. I’m pretty sure the aliens would win but it wouldn’t be quick or pretty. Alot of the dinosaurs would put up a good fight, for example the t-rex would kick some ass with its huge claws and teeth (if it swallows an alien though it’s screwed cos of the acid blood) The raptors would kill a lot of aliens as they also work in a pack and are quite smart, not to mention the massive toe claw. Also a rampaging pack of those things that nearly killed the kids would take out some aliens. And the tricerotops would kill a few seeing as theyre a massive slab of muscle thats really hard to kill.
However the aliens would win eventually as they have the numbers and they can breed faster than dinos. As i said it wont be quick mainly because the aliens main attack wont work (that second tongue wont affect anything smaller than a raptor) and they’d have to resort to claws and pack hunting. Unless they make a raptor/alien hybrid, this thing would destroy everything. And a t-rex hybrid would be funny ( would be like the queen but with shorter arms)
Sorry for the big chunk of writing but im a big fan of both alien and jurrasic park.
May 12, 2009
#9
ANOTHER of mine posted!
(I’m on a roll here!
)
Well, I reckon if the dinosaurs worked together, then they could stampede the alien menace, But most likely the dinosaurs would still fight amond themselves.
I’m giving this to the Xenomorphs.
May 12, 2009
#10
the aliens would kill all the smaller dinosaurs like raptors and such
they would gang up on the t-rex
no doubt the events would get the attation of some predators alien kind]
May 12, 2009
#11
I could use a sleep on this…..
May 12, 2009
#12
I saw an ailen burst from an alligator wich quickly grew to about the size of a
T-REX in Batman vs Ailens how big would one be if it burst out of an Actual T-REX
May 12, 2009
#13
This is Jurassic Park Vs Aliens that mean’s all the Dinos are working together so they get my vote.
May 13, 2009
#14
Actually, On second though. I’m giving this to the prehistoric lizards!
In the end, I think the numbers would be too much for the Xenomorphs to handle.
May 13, 2009
#15
Wow. This match is friggin sweet Battra Boy! Something we havnt seen before!
IMO, this can go either way. I think a swarm of Aliens with a “Hive Mind” metality gives them quite a unique advantage…as well as the ability to adapt to their environment so well.
Raptors are able to hunt in packs, If there was enough of them, they would be able to fight back effectively against the swarm of Aliens, especially if T-rexes and Spinosauruses joined in to help. A T-rex could easily take a Queen down if they can get to her.
HOWEVER…..the Xenos take DNA from their host and hatching from a Dino would create a pretty wicked creature…and if they gain large numbers, they can sweep the jungle with thousands of them in less than an hour and swarm over the Dinos…they’d actually climb up them and rip their heads apart. Theyd also beat the raptors with enough numbers.
May 13, 2009
#16
YAY finally something to my skill set!!!!!!!
An alien infecting a dino? I think not. Dinosuars, unlike humans, will actually bite the alien spider things before they latch on, if they even can latch to the face of a dino. One trying to infect a large carnivore would be swallowed whole. There is no way one could latch to a rex’s head. Because we are talking JP dinos, the Dilophosaurs might prove effective. The queen would easily be killed by a rex or spino. Mybe even by an Allosaurus, or other large carnivore like Carcaradantosaurus or possibly even a group of Albertosauruses could take one down. Lets not forget the Pteranadons. They have a major advantage. An anklyosaurus would be pretty invounerable and a triceratops could easily spear the aliens. The JP velociraptors show increased strength, size, speed, and intelligence than normal raptors, so I’de say they could easily ambush aliens and rip them to shreds. The acid blood wouldn’t really affect the claws. Raptors lose claws all the time, similier to cats. With only a pop of 101 aiens(including the queen) and no effective way of “reprodecing” I’de have to say that the JP dinos got this one ***And the crowd goes wild!!!*****
May 13, 2009
#17
Sorry for the double post. What would happen when the acid blood mixes with stomach acids? I don’t think it would do much becuase I think tumy acid is fairly stronger than blood acid from aliens. However after a rex eats an alien, he would probably it up later because of the aliens immunity to acid.
May 14, 2009
#18
If a dinosaur tried to bite a xenomorph or even claw it, they would be dissolved by the acid blood. The aliens are very smart and they are able to coordinate their attacks by using stealth. They also have their tails that are able to pierce through flesh. Xenomorphs win hands down.
May 14, 2009
#19
I’ve been pretty ill for the past few days, so my ability to post has been clouded by frequent migraines and more vomit than you can shake a stick at. I genuinely thought I was hallucinating when I first read this thread, my puzzlement was such that I could not fathom whether or not half of the posters here were joking.
Am I only one here who has actually watched the original Alien franchise? The Xenomorph is a highly aggressive and extremely efficient eusocial parasite, capable of working in tandem through the use of a Hive Mind to bring down even organized Military forces. Less than a dozen managed to bring an entire Human colony populated by hundreds of scientists, researchers, W-Y private Mercenaries and civilians to its knees, a hundred or so managed to utterly destroy a platoon of United Systems Colonial Marines and cause one hundred and fifty civilian casualties within the space of a few weeks.
Are you seriously sending a few thousand disorganized and barely intelligent Reptiles (Most of which have brains the size of a golf ball) against a parasitic race of Planet Killers capable of competing on a tertiary level with even the most intelligent and heavily armed civilizations seen in the Galaxy?
Here are a few points that *need* to be cleared up:
1) Xenomorphs utilize the biomass and DNA of a native species to overcome and destroy it with relative ease. If they encounter a hostile force too large or cumbersome for infection, they usually sedate (There is a small barb in the tail that delivers a neurotoxin) and cocoon it in a thick digestive sheath, breaking it down to a gooey genetic soup that they harvest in an effort to propagate an efficient caste system capable of destroying the threat.
2) Facehuggers neutralize an opponent by injecting a paralyzing agent within moments of latching on to a necessary orifice, once inserted, the respiratory system of the host fails entirely and the Facehugger uses itself as an artificial means of life support, supplying oxygen to the host until impregnation is complete. If you remove the Facehugger before infection is complete, the host dies.
3) Xenomoprh blood utilizes a potent molecular acid that is capable of corroding on contact almost any substance with alarming speed. It is dull yellowish-green in color, and seems to be pressurized inside the body so that it spurts out when punctured, spraying jets of blood at a radii of over ten feet. In the past it has been seen corroding titanium and other alloys, and could even corrode through several pressurized decks of a starship or bone in seconds.
No. Stomach acid is NOT stronger than Alien blood.
4) The exoskeleton of a Xenomorph is designed to withstand high levels of damage with relative ease, and deliver an unequaled level of punishment in return, it has even been depicted deflecting 9mm rounds fired at close range. We’ve even witnessed Drones (Not Warriors, Drones) destroying a two inch thick blast door with their claws alone. How do you propose *any* Dinosaur would compete with that?
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How any one could be retarded (Yes, I used the R word) enough to think that a loose group of long extinct Reptiles could win in this scenario is simply beyond me. Stay in school kids.
You need it.
May 14, 2009
#20
Lets give the Jurassic world a fighting chance……lets say that the Xenos can only use chestbusters & facehuggers as their standard infantry….while the Jurrasic world can use the Compsognathus as their answer to this miniature threat…..
Another thing, the Xenos Alien Soldier can swim right? Well, the Jurassic world can use the primitive white sharks, mosasaurus, elasmosaurus, itchyosaurus & plesiosaurus for sea warfare….
The Jurassic world can also use deepstrike squads like the oviraptor to infliltrate any xenomorph nests
Air units? well the Jurassic world has an answer to that but not to xenos…too bad for them
May 14, 2009
#21
Yeah I’m pretty sure the Face Huggers are acidic too. Wouldn’t the dinosaurs face…melt?
May 14, 2009
#22
The facehuggers have been seen to implant chestbursters into alligators, alligators who have most probably a greater bite force than a raptor. So it wouldnt be that hard to imagin raptors being facehugged.
As for the T-rex, he could swallow a facehugger whole, but wouldnt that just place the facehugger closer to the implantsection of where he drops of the chestburster?
May 14, 2009
#23
Ever thought about the Raptor battle tactics? They’re pretty co-ordinated too.
May 14, 2009
#24
The Xenomorphs far outstrip any dinosaur in intelligence. The raptor wouldn’t last a few seconds against one. Also they don’t need the facehuggers to win this battle at all. They already have super corrosive blood, which they can spit out of their mouth. Almost every part of their body can be used as a weapon.
May 14, 2009
#25
The Xenomorph far outstrips any dinosaur in intelligence. They have super corrosive acid blood, which they can spit out their mouth. Every part of their body can be used as a weapon. There is no way that a bunch of walnut-sized brain birds will be able to win.(Yes I said birds because that is what dinosaurs evolved into, you can look it up if don’t believe me.)
May 14, 2009
#26
Basic biology.
You have a balanced Jurassic ecosystem dependent on multiple tiers of carnivores, herbivores and omnivores that is as dependent on the stability of the environment (And food chain) as with every other ecosystem that has existed before and after.
Introduce an extremely hostile, highly voracious and continually adapting Organism with a roaming range measured in Planets. Let’s not forget that within an hour it managed to alter its entire biochemistry to accommodate the use of Oxygen (Before that it had survived in a Vacuum), within three hours a single foot long larvae had grown into an eight foot killing machine. We aren’t just discussing a hostile species here, this is a bio-weapon designed solely for the basis of continuously killing and propagating, wiping out entire planetary populations with extreme prejudice.
Basic biology tells you that the harmonious little niche that the Dinosaurs occupy is going to irreversibly rocked by a coordinated ground assault never seen before on such a scale.
May 15, 2009
#27
I just noticed a mistake, instead of this:
“You have a balanced Jurassic ecosystem”
It should have been:
“You have a Prehistoric ecosystem”
Since most of the Dinosaurs seen in Jurassic Park were actually from both the Cretaceous and the Jurassic period (I couldn’t recall any Triassic era Dinosaurs).
May 15, 2009
#28
dont forget about what the dinos have other then there teeth and no no chestbursters it says up above its an all out fight dinos vs queen and warriors and if the aliens wnet after the bigger dinos the dinos could easily crush them in a stampede sure some dinos would be hurt from the acid but if there feeling the acid the dinos oviously crushed them and the dinos got big powerful tails to oh and lets not forget about the many different types of dinos t-rex raptor triceratops ect ect oh cant forget the teradacdule power of flight anyway just giving the dinos a some help cause nobody seems to be doing them justice go dinos OH and dont forget about forgot the name but those HUGE long neck dinosaurs can you imagine how many Aliens they could kill in stampede there feet could take out groups of aliens ok thats all i gotta say for now
May 15, 2009
#29
Could you possibly speak in English fight? Not to sound xenophobic, but I cannot understand the language you are speaking.
May 15, 2009
#30
In the dinosaurs defence, the JP dinos do seem signifcantly smarter than a regular dinosaur. If they were all on the same side, I Think the dinosaurs would probably be organized by the raptors.
How does a facehugger latch to a rex? I don’t understand how that tiny little thing could easily latch on to a head that is that massive.
If the pteranadons could kill the queen before a massive amount of facehuggers were created than I see a significant number difference between the two.
Hmmm…… here’s something we haven’t looked into. Since this is the original island, doesn’t that mean the staff is there also. Lets not forget the electrical fences. With an army led by raptors and humans that have a defence bonus anda bonus in numbers and size, I think the aliens are against long odds.
I’ve seen facehuggers easily killed, a raptor can kill one. Also the chestbursters start small and could be killed by even a compsagnathus or a group of them.
One last question. Whats smarter, a human or alien? In JP I you see a raptor pack outsmart a human that was extremely framilier with them. In JP they are on the verge of tactical geniusness. Take a human’s intellinence and raptor’s intelligence and use the combined two to coordinate a giant army of dinosaurs, and you have a tuff match for even the aliens.
May 15, 2009
#31
Sorry for the double post again but just so you know, it doesn’t say it is only JP dinosaurs, just on the original island, Isle Nublar(site A).
May 15, 2009
#32
Put it like this, according to the novels and comic books it takes military grade heavy armour piercing rounds to eliminate a xenomorph which neither the dinosaurs or the staff of jp have. These creatures are also depicted of having the strength to rip through steel blast doors with their claws. They no fear and will never back down from any threat. They would scatter the dinosaurs of that island and hun them down 1 by 1. its no contest.
May 16, 2009
#33
How you were even allowed admission into a tertiary level education, on the subject matter of paleontology no less, astounds me.
1) Organized by Velociraptors? I wasn’t aware that this pack hunter possessed an inter-species communicative commonality that allowed it to process complex information and ideas through a universal Dinosaur body language; that allowed them to organize and dictate a delicate hierarchical caste of apex predators.
2) I see you completely ignored (Or simply could not fathom) my statement regarding the biomass conversion of larger creatures, why am I not surprised?
3) If Pteranodons could kill the Queen? You mean a twenty foot tall armored super-organism capable of surviving sustained bursts from explosive tipped ballistics, against a few fish eating overgrown Albatross supported by hollow bones?
I suggest you stop using movies as you study guides in future.
4) Obviously those electric fences are going to be an issue for the Xenomorphs, since we have yet to see them make thirty foot leaps with ease. Oh, wait we have. Although this is still not an issue, because as we all know, the staff of the Jurassic Park facility are trained and hardened to be on par with (If not greater) Colonial Marines. Oh wait, they’re not.
5) Yes, Facehuggers are killed easily, at range, where violently spurting arcs of molecular acid have a limited chance of impacting the potential host. How do you propose a Raptor do the same when his only defenses are claws and his jaws?
The fact is the Dinosaurs cannot afford to lose one unit in this struggle, the Xenomorphs on the other hand can. It takes them only a few hours to replace a member of their species, a warrior that is a far greater Organism than any amount of Velociraptors combined.
6) They used deception and camouflage to ambush one human in a dense jungle environment, even Lions are capable of doing that. In fact the most effective and common means of hunting demonstrated by predators is to ambush through deception. It hardly makes them tactical geniuses, does it?
May 16, 2009
#34
You have to admit that if they were all on the same side, they would have to have away of communicating. Also I never said te facehuggerswouldn’t kill the dinos, just not reprodce with them.
May 17, 2009
#35
They can use Crocodiles, Horses, Dogs, Oxen and even Cats as hosts, what stops them from using the majority of Dinosaurs for the same purpose?
May 17, 2009
#36
Xenos are basically the ultimate warrior species. Unless we completely throw realism out the window and let the dinos use strategy and teamwork, they’ll be down in a matter of days, with Velocaliens and T-Raliens chowing down on InGen employees.
May 17, 2009
#37
I think most species of dinosaurs can become hosts except the larger carnivores and the dinsaurs that are way too small in the first place like compsagnathus. I tthink chestbursters are round the size of a comsagnathus anyways.
Not that it will effect anything much, but InGen does have cloneing facilities. And possibly, with a dead facehugger, they could clone their own army of Xenos already mixed with dinos. It would also take much less time to clone them because they already grow extremly fast plus the extreme gow hormone that InGen already uses. In fact, InGen could create an even more powerfull biological weapon. Think of it, a massive army of Xenodinos that have the strengths of dinos and Xenos.
May 17, 2009
#38
“I think most species of dinosaurs can become hosts except the larger carnivores”
I can’t source this, but I’m quite sure somewhere in the Aliens novels or comics a facehugger manages to use a blue whale as a host. So I think they can handle the largest of dinos.
May 17, 2009
#39
In the Jurassic Park novel it took decades for them to create a stable gene sequence capable of cloning a surrogate Dinosaur, even when they managed to repair the sequence itself (A torturous process), so here are a few major issues with that proposal:
1) Xenomorphs naturally grow quickly, but how are they going to reverse engineer their laboratories (A process that takes years) to accommodate the cloning of an extra-terrestrial species that they have no known scientific basis to work on? Cloning doesn’t involve sticking an animal in a vat and waiting a few days for a copy to grow for the agar (I continue to doubt you have any knowledge of practical science), it requires years of complex analysis of the gene sequence, a process that has taken entire lifetimes.
How are Ingen supposed to mass manufacture an Alien Organism over the period of years, when the alien Hive could overrun them within a matter of hours?
2) All Alien Hybrids of any sort return to the hive, since the Xenomorph gene seems to promote absolute instinctual loyalty even at distances of light years. Why would the geneticists at Ingen attempt to create an organism that will naturally turn against them anyway?
3) What are they going to use as a surrogate? How are they going to recreate the complex biochemical soup of the Queen or her eggs without samples?
That has to be one of the most flawed plans that I have ever heard.
May 17, 2009
#40
Hey I’m just pitching ideas out now. If the plan could somehow work they could re-engineer the hive mind of the xeno, but that would be a long shot.
A blue whale xeno? That would be like near invincible too anything except at least a tank. Still the large carnivores would just die eating the little facehuggers.
May 17, 2009
#41
The large sauropods would make massive Xenos 1 or 2 may be enough to do the job never mind the large carnivores like T-Rex that are half the size
May 19, 2009
#42
Good piont there. Especially when the sauropods have a conciderably smaller head that the face hugger can latch onto with at the most little difficulty.
May 19, 2009
#43
One thing that has always bothered is how did they get the DNA samples of all these different types of dinosaurs? I know that one of the ways was getting the blood from an ancient mosquito in solidified amber, but that’s only one blood sample. So if you guys have any information regarding the process of how they acquired the samples it would be appreciated.
May 22, 2009
#44
TheSorrow- in the novel they used fossilised bones from tarpits and digsites and ground them up to release the marrow or whatever it was) It had a 1 billion chance but they found some.
Anyway, i think people are talking about two different types of fights here.
If both sides were placed in a line facing each other and then charged each other i have no doubt that the dinos would win.
However i’m pretty sure the fight scenario is that aliens land on the island ( don’t know how) with 100 warriors and a queen. Dinosaurs are doing what they do best and hunting each other oblivious. In this situation the aliens would win. Plain and simple.
Someone mentioned that only high callibre rounds could kill the aliens and that the island didn’t have any. But if i were making a zoo with 40 tonne animals i sure as hell would bring some proper ammo. I’m not sure about the film but in the book the head keeper has a room which has rocketlaunchers in. These weren’t used because the keys were lost.
In JP there was a baby trex as well as a fuly grown one. I’m sure a facehugger couldnt get a big trex but it definately could get the young one. Same dna so same horrific monster made.
People are underestimating the raptors- in the book the main problem was that raptors escaped and bred. A lot. There were at least 100 and they had formed a weird family/tribe that all followed the females and all worked together. This group vs aliens its gonna be close, and thats not taking into account the trex vs alien queen.
Sorry for the big post.
May 22, 2009
#45
Scary thought…….. What if the Ailen Queen burst from a large sauropod?
How big would that be?
May 27, 2009
#46
the dinos got weight on there sides and what abou those huge dinosours the long neck ones could crush a bunch of aliens and what about the dinos with armor on there backs and the other dinos with the spikey backs the dinos have weight and strength on there sides dont forget they got teradacdules little power of flight weight strength speed and smarts on there and the power to set traps not like mechanical traps but get some of the aliens to leave the queen by having the raptors taunt them and chase after them and since the raptors are way faster then aliens the aliens would be busy trying to catch them and sicne lets just say thsi battle has all the dinos fighting together now that the queen is alone its time for t-rex male t-rex female and the spinosaurus to move it spino could knock her down easily with his powerful tail as she tries to recover th rexes mmove in on her one of them using there weight to crush half of her but shes the queen so of course shell get back up but one of the rexes will knock her down again sensing shes to dangerous to bite they knock her down and crush now that leaves the 100 warrior alien the raptors do this all over the island they lead large groups of aliens into traps were the bigger dinos are waiting as soon as the aliens run into the clearing the dinos attack and of course some of the other aliens are getting killed by dinos all around the island of course some dinos get killed but the dinos got more on there side weight speed strength so yeah seeing as how these are pretty smart dinosours they would pretty much take the aliens down also its there island people they got home field advantage its not like if the dinos are in space were the aliens got the advantage nah its the dinos island so yeah they pretty much take it
May 27, 2009
#47
Well there are a few reasons why the dinos would lose.
1. The xenos have much more hightened senses then the dinos could even dream of having. Thats why in the books, comics, and games you never ever ambushed 1. They ambush you. They will always know where you are no matter what.
2. The armor on the dinos backs are not strong enough to stop the efforts of creatures who can rip through 3 inch solid steel blast doors.
3. Dinos dont have the ability to work together. The cant communicate with each other and are not smart enough to realize the danger they are in untill its too late.
4 xenos are way faster then any dinosaure shown in jurrasic park. The xenos in the comics and books were observed to be able to keep up with hover crafts so i dont think they will have to much trouble taking down a few raptors.
5. There are no dinos except for the ones larger the a triceratops that can stand toe to toe in single combat with the xenos. As i said before it requires heavy armor piercing military ordinance to take 1 down and are strong enough to rip through steel blast doors. No claws or teeth on the smaller dinos like raptors are gonna effect them.
6. The presence of the zoo keepers in jurrasic park won’t make much of a difference judging from the fact that a platoon of well trained, battle hardened colonial marines was completely wiped out by them. And they had advance futuristic weaponry with built in motion trackers, assault rifles with clips that hold 99 bullets each, underslung grenade launchers, and air support. And this is not their most impressive feat.
7. They breed unbelivably fast and each drone is a potential queen. If a queen is not present a drone will go through a harmone storm and become a queen. Actually in the books and comics religious fanatics broke into a lab containing 12 alien eggs and got themselves infected. They then spread themselves all over the world and in a year and a half the xenos controlled the earth and forced all the humans to retreat to space colonies.
May 29, 2009
#48
the Raptors shown on JP are not actual size a velociraptor is only 4 ft tall the utah raptor is about the size of the ones shown in the movie mabey even a little larger but not as smart.
June 8, 2009
#49
Do the ones from the novel count? If so there was over 200 dinosaurs on the island. A warrior is about equal to 2 raptors. T.rex is equal to a Queen and a half (fighting power that is.). Are the dinosaurs acid proof?
June 8, 2009
#50
T.rex does not come even close to the power of the Queen.
“Are the dinosaurs acid proof?”
Why would the dinosaurs be acid proof? Do you actually think about your questions before you ask them?
June 9, 2009
#51
Why not? Ingen enginerred a frill and poison on a dilophosaurus. So whaat if they made them acid proof? I don’t see a queen getting away from a hungry mother T.rex. I see a brutally slaughtered queen and a dieng T.rex
June 9, 2009
#52
I see a dissolved T. Rex and a completely unharmed Queen. What reason would they have made any of the dinosaurs acid proof? I mean think it through, what possible advantage would the dinosaurs have if they were acid proof besides fighting the Xenomorphs?
June 10, 2009
#53
Well acid rain was (likely) a factor in their extinction. Mabye Ingen saw a that another asteroid strike could happen and tried to prepare the dinosaurs for a it. (you know acid rain and all.). How would the T.rex be dissolved if it never harmed the Queen? Ingen could make acid proof dinosaurs when the xenomorphs attacked, when they discovered acid blood that is.
June 10, 2009
#54
Well acid rain was (likely) a factor in their extinction. Mabye Ingen saw a that another asteroid strike could happen and tried to prepare the dinosaurs for a it. (you know acid rain and all.). How would the T.rex be dissolved if it never harmed the Queen? Ingen could make acid proof dinosaurs when the xenomorphs attacked, when they discovered acid blood that is. Which T.rex? The JP one was 69 feet long and 21 feet tall. JP2’s T.rex’s were 52 feet long and 17 feet tall. JP3 as 43 feet long and 14 feet tall. The JP Tyrannosaurus (if acid proof) would be enough for a Queen.
June 10, 2009
#55
“Mabye Ingen saw a that another asteroid strike could happen and tried to prepare the dinosaurs for a it. (you know acid rain and all.).”
/Slamming head against wall
I am pretty sure that if an asteroid were to strike acid rain would be the least of the dinosaurs problems. You are starting to get desperate by using that as your argument.
“How would the T.rex be dissolved if it never harmed the Queen? Ingen could make acid proof dinosaurs when the xenomorphs attacked, when they discovered acid blood that is.”
Xenomorphs are capable of spitting their blood out their mouths.
“The JP one was 69 feet long and 21 feet tall. JP2’s T.rex’s were 52 feet long and 17 feet tall. JP3 as 43 feet long and 14 feet tall. The JP Tyrannosaurus (if acid proof) would be enough for a Queen.”
It doesn’t matter, they would all die just the same.
June 10, 2009
#56
A hundred aliens plus queen versus a single tyranno, half a dozen raptors and similar numbers for the other species (the original island as shown in the film)? That sounds a bit unfair. It would be cooler to pitch a small number of aliens versus a large number of dino’s, providing they could stay undiscovered long enough to breed some dinaliens. Now, since these are movie creatures, and we want an interesting fight, we are assuming that raptors are extremely intelligent, to the point of having a tribal-like language and social life as shown in JP3. The other dinosaurs aren’t especially dumb either and at a certain point realise that all those black creepy things are the enemy. That would give a pretty cool fight. I have no doubt that a triceratops could penetrate an alien if he would get the time to aim and get up to speed, the problem for the triceratops is how it would prevent the acids from spilling all over them. The acidic blood limits the dinosaurs options severely, trampling seems like the best option, but not very spectecular. Perhaps the T-rex could pick them up in it’s mouth and throw them away, against a wall or something, but that wouldn’t do too much damage. In the end, the aliens would win, but it would make for a pretty cool (B-)movie.
June 10, 2009
#57
Now, predator VS jurassic park, that would be a tight match. After all, have you ever tried pulling a dead brachiosaurus into a tree so you can skin it? No? Pull out its spinal collumn perhaps?
June 10, 2009
#58
I thought only drones could spit acid? Acid rain would be one of the problems they could combat. SO why not combat it?
June 10, 2009
#59
The aliens would win this easily they are organised, more intelligent, physically superior to most of the dinosaurs and the dinosaurs only ways of attacking(biting,slashing with claws,etc) would mean that they would get killed by the aliens acid blood.
June 10, 2009
#60
Because the dinosaurs weren’t engineered to stay alive whatever happened. In fact they were supposed to die if humans would stop feeding them their vitamins.
June 10, 2009
#61
“I thought only drones could spit acid?”
Why wouldn’t the Queen, the one gives birth to the drones, be able to spit acid blood?
“Acid rain would be one of the problems they could combat.”
Like I said earlier if a asteroid six miles long came coming towards Earth I don’t think Ingen would think about the dinosaurs safety. They never said that JP dinosaurs were acid proof, so they’re not.
June 10, 2009
#62
They never said the dilo had a frill either.
June 10, 2009
#63
Well apparently it seems pointless to argue anymore since you are obviously too stubborn to change your opinion. So I am going to go ahead and declare that the Xenomorphs are the winners.
June 11, 2009
#64
The Xenomorphs will win if the dinosaurs aren’t acid proof.
Dinosaurs have the upper hand if they are.
Just depends on what dinosaurs their talking about. (Their were three T.rex’s in the novel.)
June 13, 2009
#65
dont forget the dinos are smart the aliens are a little stupid sometimes letting themselfs get blasted by some gun drones till they ran out alien 2 the dinos they adapt thats why in jp3 the guy from the first one was a little shocked when the one raptor was calling for help and when they set that trap also somebody gave the dinos a big helper the dinos could sense that the aliens are to dangerous to bit but if it is a fight to see whos left standing it goes to the dinos cause the dinos could pick up the alot of aliens and smash them again a wall or throw them over a cliff also since its one world vs another the raptors could lead alot of the aliens into a big clearing then unleash the longneck dinos one big stampede also the aliens are fast but there fast cause there more jumpers then runners the raptors just zoooom and there gone the aliens arent really ya know suoer speed creatures fast sure but not able to keep up with the raptors also if the aliens were chasing after the raptors couldnt the raptors just easliy lead them all into traps and hey teradacdules could grab an alien and fly them high as they could and drop them so splat goes the alien and i think since these are smart enginered dinos they would eventually figure out a way to kill the aliens also the dinos could throw there weight around and alot of dinos would be hurt and killed in the process but they would be the ones left standing
June 29, 2009
#66
I just thought of a possibility I overlooked. What if the aliens are picky? I mean, sure, a hundred warrior drones go a long way, but can they actually infect dinosaurs? Better yet, would they even try killing them at all? We know they can infect humans, dogs, cows and predators, but we also know the one from the first film refused to even just kill the cat when he had the chance. Maybe the aliens like their prey to have a certain size. Compy’s may be too small, but some other dinosaurs may be too large. Perhaps they don’t like dinodaurs at all, not warm-blooded enough or something. And with the aliens focussing on finding and killing the humans, it becomes a whole new ballgame…
June 29, 2009
#67
Aliens for the win.
July 13, 2009
#68
its has to go to the dinos i know all of you are saying ohh acid blood ect ect but remember its the dinos island home field advantage and they are more in numbers bigger in size and even tho alot of the dinos would be hurt and killed in the process they would be the ones left standing and aliens are more of a surprise kind of creature i know they can fight but when there matched with something thats no push over example a big daddy t-rex SMASH SMASH or t-rex just uses his tail and sends them flying and when they come down splat right into the ground dont forget the dinos have alot more advantages they can fly throw there veru huge weight around and there more in numbers i think the raptors would do alot of damage cause all they gotta do is lead the aliens into traps do that all over the island pretty soon even tho alot of dinos are dead ALL of the aliens are dead and the queen shes no match for some pretty pissed of rexes or a spino and the queen just has to be smashed or impaled enough to die easy triceratops SMASH bam queens dead so yah dinos take it
July 31, 2009
#69
How many times must this be said. First off it takes heavy military-grade Armour piercing rounds to get through their carapace. Second the dinosaurs lack the ability to communicate with each other and will be fighting amongst themselves. This is not the case for the aliens because they’re coordinated by the queen who are demonstrated in the novels to have IQ of 275 and over. Thats smarter then most humans. Third a basic alien drone has the strength to rip through a 3 inch solid steel blast door. No dinosaur hide can possibly stand up to that.
It really amazes me that people actually think that Dinosaurs of, which only a few species demonstrate any type of coordination, can compete against a life forms that could compete on a planetary scale with most intelligent beings. These things managed to take over earth and hold it for 3 years in a future that has a military that outclasses our own on every level.
August 11, 2009
#70
nah this goes to the dinosaurs ok humans arent raw animal dinos are ok they just fight and again if this is the dinos island then they got home field advantage also remember the dinos have numbers and weight on there side ok id like to see the aliens take down a super huge pissed off t-rex ok t-rex could just throw them off again i said this before alot of dinos would be killed an injured in the process but in the end its there island they got number weight and smarts on there side aswell remember these arent just regular dinos either there special enginered dinos ok who have gotten smarter and smarter see remeber the raptors would do alot of the work cause look even if the dinos dont work together the raptors are smart enough to know the island and know were all the dinos are as the alines chase them the raptors lead them right into a rex nest and as the aliens are still chasing the raptors the raptors are gone the aliens get smashed the raptors could do it again and again raptors give chase aliens follow and a stampede ensues the long neck dinos crush the raptors and ect ect its happens all over the island till the aliens dwindle into nothing all thats left is the queen she could be taken care of easily either taken care of by two big bad rexes or riped apart by a spino of course the spino would get hurt or killed but so would the queen in the process either way the dinos are left standing they win the aliens lose ok these are two raw species not careful humans just two creatures that go for it and fight so yeah the aliens lose and the dinos lose
August 11, 2009
#71
sorry all little typo on the end of that other post dinos win i ment duh lol anyway Aliens lose dinos Win
August 11, 2009
#72
“nah this goes to the dinosaurs ok humans arent raw animal dinos are ok they just fight and again if this is the dinos island then they got home field advantage also remember the dinos have numbers and weight on there side ok id like to see the aliens take down a super huge pissed off t-rex ok t-rex could just throw them off again i said this before alot of dinos would be killed an injured in the process but in the end its there island they got number weight and smarts on there side aswell remember these arent just regular dinos either there special enginered dinos ok who have gotten smarter and smarter see remeber the raptors would do alot of the work cause look even if the dinos dont work together the raptors are smart enough to know the island and know were all the dinos are as the alines chase them the raptors lead them right into a rex nest and as the aliens are still chasing the raptors the raptors are gone the aliens get smashed the raptors could do it again and again raptors give chase aliens follow and a stampede ensues the long neck dinos crush the raptors and ect ect its happens all over the island till the aliens dwindle into nothing all thats left is the queen she could be taken care of easily either taken care of by two big bad rexes or riped apart by a spino of course the spino would get hurt or killed but so would the queen in the process either way the dinos are left standing they win the aliens lose ok these are two raw species not careful humans just two creatures that go for it and fight so yeah the aliens lose and the dinos lose ”
You didn’t use any punctuation in that post. How could the dinos kill the aliens? Aliens are much faster and stronger than all the dinos, the only way a dino could kill them would be if they bit into an alien. This would obviously be impossible as an alien isn’t just going to crawl into the dino’s mouth. If the alien does get bitten by the dino, the acid blood will kill the dino. Also, aliens have there powerful tails, which can easily pierce a dino’s skin. Alien’s win.
August 12, 2009
#73
@copycat- I didn’t understand a word you said. All I caught was you said that the dinosaurs would win even though its already been established that most of the dinosaurs couldn’t even get past the xeno’s exoskeleton let alone outrun them. Face it if earth’s future combined military effort of every country on the planet failed against them what makes you think a few dinosaurs with brains no bigger then your fist possibly stand a chance?
August 12, 2009
#74
Pretty much small brains + Acid Blood = Aliens win.
And too boot, if they get some of those Gut Busters on the aliens, we may see Dinosaur like Aliens. That would be awesome to see!
August 31, 2009
#75
@Diana
Since when did the dinos turn into damn Navy SEALS
Aliens for the win. there is no way dinos can win even if they kill 95 aliens thats 95 dead dinos from the acid and 200 more aliens from the breeding. and unlessthe dino supporters can find a way to win ALIENS FOR FACTPILE AWARD.
Oh and that kid who thinks acid proofing dinos is a common practise SHUT THE HELL UP. and btw dilophosaur already ar frilled and spit venom InGen didnt make them that way
September 2, 2009
#76
@paleotyrantus- lol, i can’t believe you tried to argue that acid proofing dinosaurs point.
And btw there were only 2 t-rexs in the book, a fully grown female and a half grown baby.
but there were about 150 raptors. I am a bit of a JP fanboy so i’d like to think a raptor could kill an alien 1v1, but die in the process. Also raptors work in groups, but then again so do the aliens.
Now this next point is entirely hypothetical.
a lot of the dinos in JP were poisonous, so an attack from these dinos could probably kill at least 1 alien. Assuming that they’re affected by it.
September 3, 2009
#77
air units? its not a spec ops squad there lizards god dammit. yeah THE RAPTORS showed SIGNS of SIMPLE squad tactics. Pteradons would not be able to hurt anything due to the dense tree canopy. there were very little to no water animals. any armor the herbivores had would melt like butter against xenocid(my word for alien acid)
@Ridwan
i to am a jp fanboy i loved it since i was a kid. but the dinos were poisonous to hunt not as a defense against being eaten. or am i just misunderstanding you?
Also the dinos HATE each other they would noyt work together outside there own species and very rarely at that. they would all kill each other while fighting tha als.
the queen alone is stronger than the rex
September 13, 2009
#78
@REAPER Most small carnivores had poison in their saliva, i’m saying that a bite from a dino might eventually bring an alien down. (highly doubtful) But possible, seeing as the aliens would never of encountered that posion before.
September 13, 2009
#79
oh okay i get you. that is possible. i think the alins will use their tails as their main weapon
October 19, 2009
#80
@Ridwan-Its higly unlikey that they would be effected by the poison for these reasons.
1. The acid in there blood would have burned it out before it posed a threat.
2. They have shown to be able to adapt to any enviroment from poisonous death worlds to outer space.
3. The Xenomorph’s gentic make up is silicone based. According to the books scientistshave been un able to develop a poison to destroy them. They have managed a way to put them in suspended hibernation however.
This is a completely one sided battle. The Xenos would crush the dinos with little to no losses and here’s why.
1. They have shown the ability to rip through 5 inch thick blast doors like aluminum foil. There’s not an animal on earth alive or extinct that has an epidermus that withstand the power these creatures can bring.
2. They are a collective hive mind headed by a queen who are described as being smarter then most humans with an IQ of 175. That means humans have trouble keeping up with her.
3. They procreate with the death of dinos meaning each time one is born one more of the dinos are dead.
4. There exoskeletons have been described as impervious to everything below high calibur ammunition. Shotguns, pistols, and the like do nothing to them. That means the majority of the dinos wouldn’t be able to put a scratch on them let alone kill them.
5. They have conquered every planet they’ve been on including earth. They managed to wrest control of earth from a civilization much more advanced then ours who have acheived space travel, plasma and laser technology, and a military that put our worlds military forces combined to shame in a year and a half.
January 24, 2010
#81
ok heres what hapens…… The dilopasarusis [full grown not the baby that killed that one guy] poison all the aliand so they cant see the raptors that will go and distract the queen as spino and his snapped neck freind t-rex destroy her DDDDIIIINNNNOOOOSSS WWWIIIINNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 24, 2010
#82
Ken shut the fuck up. Please you make no sense. The Aliens don’t even possess eyes.
January 24, 2010
#83
@Ken
What the hell did you just say?! Why is this still being debated on?! WHY THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT JURASSIC PARK SO GOD DAMNED STUPID?!
*coughs* Sorry about that, but I’m mean come on! Who actually says that the dinosaurs could be acid proof?! What goes through people brains when they type these things? Acid proof… my jaw literally dropped when I saw that.
January 24, 2010
#84
@MM
Thank you for saying that. I swear it’s like a lobotomized person trying to type.
January 24, 2010
#85
I dont think I’ve ever agreed with midnite marauder before, but I am now, the aliens win this easy.
Aliens for the FP award.
January 24, 2010
#86
Seconded.
It’s not as if the Dinosaurs are going to retaliate in any effective way possible… This is is like dropping a troop of gorillas and a SpecOps team in the middle of a forest and waiting to see what happens…
January 24, 2010
#87
@EnigmaJ
Indeed, they have no ways of communicating with each other. For the most part, the dinosaurs would be going on with there lives, blissfully unaware of whats about to happen.
January 24, 2010
#88
A cool trick with a slimy coating is to roll in some dirt. this makes the dirt stick to the slime and handily masks scent while providing basic cameoflage.
January 24, 2010
#89
someone must have thought this was gonna be a cool fight but they failed to see how one sided it was. Xenomorphs kill everything! this is an undefeatable race, 1 xenomorph face hugger is enough or even 1 drone.
AVP: stated with 2 face huggers and by nightfall the next day the town had to be nuked.
Aliens 4: started with 11 drones and 1 queen; 2 hrs later they cleared a military space crusier. with hundreds of eggs all ready to be hatched. even though hive minded each xenomorph is intelligent enough to plan and put facts and observations together. they have a sense of self preservation which is sometimes overriden by the hive mind but it can be seen, they work in packs and can formulate plans without the hive mind directly giving them input.
the xenomorphs knew thier blood would eat thru the ships decks but to make a big enough hole they would have to mutalate one of them to do it. so three of them decided to kill the 4th one, who freaked out upon hearing the plan.(go watch the escape part of the movie watch the body language and sounds) heres the sweet part all the cages where directly on top of each other.
alien: started with a face hugger, the resulting drone wiped out the ship’s crew.
aliens takes place after LV-426 was infested. they are smart enough to cut power supplies to sections of highly advanced terramorphic equipment and circumvent barricades place specifically at choke points. they nested below a reactor to limit weapons fire to small arms. do you think that was an acceident?
alien 3: 1 dog based xenomorph almost cleared a prison colony. molten lead is not enough to pierce thier exoskeleton.
dino’s cant win against this kind of aggressive, spieces replacement and rapid reproduction. each xenomorph has the strength to bash a raptor with the body of another raptor. while holding back anything else with it’s free hand and tail.
i wouldnt put if pass the ability of 1-3 drones being able to take down a T-rex
February 2, 2010
#90
is some body for getting the BRACKEN’S TERROR they’re drones are as big as a queen.
February 14, 2010
#91
hey i mean comeon the alieins would just desolve them, ALEINS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 14, 2010
#92
alien acid is so strong that a few drops of it melted a mans arm off plus he was wearing a jacket, raptors scratch the aliens with their claws and end up handycap.and if the queen lays pretorian eggs , then morphs them into ravengers the dinos are dead.
February 15, 2010
#93
well i thin that the dinos would win here cause u guys are forgetting about other dinosaurs in the movies like the brachiosaurs.
February 15, 2010
#94
@gojiradude
What are you stupid? What is herbivore that moves excruciatingly slow going to do against a Xenomorph? Don’t try and insult are intelligence by saying we must have “forgot” something as ridiculous as that.
February 15, 2010
#95
And for God’s sake don’t say that they could just step on them.
February 15, 2010
#96
If this was a vote on which movie series is better I still would pick aliens.
WTH acid protection to protect from the aliens acid does any1 on this damn site even know what acid rain is?
Acid rain is a light acid that can barely hurt the skin of a human. Compared to the aliens acid which can go dissolve through several hulls of a space ship.
Anyone hear of evolution?
The aliens are faster,stronger,more organized,smarter,faster reaction time,and have a defense to anything the dinosaurs can throw at them.
February 15, 2010
#97
@_@ I can’t imagine what carnage the Xenos are going to cause in this mess(well actually, I have an idea)…Xenos for the award