Suggested by w2drs21
Interesting fight here. While the knee-jerk reaction would be to give it to the Jedi killers, I wonder if the suits would sense the presence of someone like Durge and be attracted to them, and try to overtake them instead?
How do you see this fight playing out?
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August 17, 2009
#1
Oh my God I don’t know who to support. I like both teams.
August 17, 2009
#2
Considering the Symboites can hop host to host, they could overtake the two machines easily. But the question remains is can they use robots as bodies?
A What if had Venom Punisher mimick weapons while a Mysterio fantasy had Venom overtake a Galactus Robot. But being non-canon it could be only for that story.
August 17, 2009
#3
One…Durge and Grevious are not “machines” or “robots”. Grevious is a “prototype Darth Vader” when it comes to his cybernetic life support and Durge is a literally immortal alien made up of nothing but nerve clusters in armor. In theory, the concentrated energy of Grevious’ lightsaber and Durge’s blasters could produce enough heat to sear the symbiotes to death but I doubt the aliens suits would win.
Also, if Venom or Carnage did take over one of them, Durge would be profered being literally unkillable, rageful and powerful instead of fast and cybernetic.
My vote is for the Star Wars CIS generals.
August 17, 2009
#4
durge cant die
unless the opponet completely vaporizes him
August 17, 2009
#5
First off, Venom no Carnage could overtake Durge…he is too brutal, too crazy, and has too much willpower to be overtaken…secondly, both Durge and Grievous would curbstomp because of their advanced weaponry, strength, speed, and durability….Durge and Grievous win without difficulty
August 17, 2009
#6
If the Symbiote itself could get close enough to the robot’s wiring, it would be able to shrink and infiltrate the wires, assuming that the two robots work in this way, or don’t have something to protect such things.
A Symbiote was also known to latch on to Optimus Prime, though it failed in taking him over. I can’t seem to find any Canon incidents of non-biological hosts though.
August 17, 2009
#7
@Spellca: Sorry, my Star Wars knowledge is very limited. Though being burned doesn’t stop them unless it’s Sentry like. It can hurt them, but it won’t stop them.
Another thing is, Carnage took over the Silver Surfer. Surfer eventually broke free, but it would be long enough to consider it a win for them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Surfer#Carnage_Cosmic
And in the what if, Firestar was able to use her powers to disrupt the symbiote’s control over the Surfer, not completely destory it. To do that, you need the heat of the Sun for stuff like that.
August 17, 2009
#8
I would have to give this to the CIS generals as well. I’m quite the opposite of Akuma, with my knowledge of comic book characters being limited and my Star Wars, great. I don’t think it would be possible for the symbiote to take over a robotic body, so Grievous is safe from being overtaken. And as for Durge, he is a 2000 year old bounty hunter who regenerates their bodies even from the worst injuries. Durge is capable of being “killed”, but he would only regenerate over time. In fact, the only way he truly died was being launched into a star. so yes, the generals would win hands down.
August 18, 2009
#9
Don’t lightsabers burn at about 2,000,000 degrees Fahrenheit? That’s a lot hotter than the surface of the sun.(About 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit.) I don’t think Carnage or Venom would last very long against the heat of that. For that reason alone, I’m giving a big edge to the Star Wars team.
August 18, 2009
#10
carnages current state isnt much to talk about guys, and gargan isnt the brightest bulb in the house, im saying they will loose, especially since carnage has yet to reform since that sentry ripped him appart and is presumed dead(unlikley)
August 18, 2009
#11
One word, LIGHTSABERS… ( 4 of them to be exact…)
August 18, 2009
#12
Who said Carnage has to force bonding onto Durge? Durge is insane enough that he might just bond willingly. Theyre kindred spirits and having Durges own resilience boosted by even further superhuman strength as well as Symbiotic extensions and precognition….. Ithink Carnage would ditch Kasady and leap on Durge, who would bond instantly, then proceed to butcher both Grevious and Venom.
August 18, 2009
#13
@Sarge the Heavy: Grievous I can see, but Durge could be taken over. Fake symbiote have taken over Wolverine (as I have heard) (but he did resist the real thing).
@AHEM: The heat of those things are in a specific amount. It could definitly hurt them, but it’s not like they can use their weapons to cover every inch of the symbiote to kill it.
@ss: They are just the host. The symbiote themselves are a bigger threat.
I wouldn’t count the symbiotes out of this fight. Though from what I’m hearing, those two have the potential to win.
August 18, 2009
#14
Durge is the deciding factor for myself in this fight. Immortal, mandolarian/jedi killing machine, this guy is impossible to keep down unless thrown into the sun. He has an amazing regenerative ability, surviving an implosion from Obi-won in the Clone Wars, and mulitple limbs being cut off. With his armor, and high-tech weaponary, the two symbiotes will have a very hard time taking over Durge.
I wonder how blasters/lightsabers would affect the two symboites? Would it just kill the host, or actually take out both?
- pondering fool
August 18, 2009
#15
Unless Durge has some really strong willpower,he couldn’t resist the symbiote.Also,it depends if he is posessed by Carnage or Venom.Carnage is MUCH more ruthless then Venom.
August 18, 2009
#16
@ AkumaTh
thanx for actually reponding 2 it, it was the sybiote its now stuck in orbit in pieces, though cassidy may not have been inside at the time (as stated by iron man) when the sentry tore him to shreds
August 18, 2009
#17
@ss: Carnage has used fakes to trick people to think he died. It could be possible that the one Sentry destroyed was a fake. Then again, he usually uses a dead body for that.
Also, Skrunks’s idea sounds the most plausable.
August 18, 2009
#18
@AkumaTh
we cant assume that, we can however, assume that if he is, he has yet 2 retreive the symbiote, making both useless in a fight
August 18, 2009
#19
At ss: But for this fight, we have to use Carnage’s last incarnation, which was alive and one with Kassidy.
August 18, 2009
#20
thanks admin! I think grievous and durge would win but not easily. here is the wiki for grievous – http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Grievous
and for durge – http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Durge
both teams are strong(muscle)
-w2drs21
August 18, 2009
#21
@Baron Sombody
“Venom no Carnage could overtake Durge… he is too brutal, to crazy, and has too much willpower to be overtaken.”
Do you mean Durge or Carnage? cuz they both crazy, brutal, and willpowerful
August 18, 2009
#22
Grievous fought 7 Jedi on Hypori and defeated them. He killed 3 and severely wounding the rest. He also fought 4 jedi protecting chancellor Palpatine. And killed them with ease. He also has reflexes as fast or even faster than a Jedi.
If the Symbiote tries to take over his organic parts he could chop it up. The only entrance the Symbiote has is grievous eyes.
Durge can get blown up with no recognizable parts left and still survive. There were still parts of his armor left after he got shot with a rocket from star wars(which is far stronger than modern day rockets) and he got shot at least 200 times by blaster rifles(which again are far stronger than today’s ammunition) and he resisted electricity with little trouble.
All characters are at full health so Grievous has his guts cover with armor.
I think General Grievous and Durge would win but not with ease.
-w2drs21
August 18, 2009
#23
“The heat of those things are in a specific amount. It could definitly hurt them, but it’s not like they can use their weapons to cover every inch of the symbiote to kill it.”
Not at once, but Grievous has FOUR remember. Those symbiotes will be taking a whole lot of damage pretty quickly.
I see Grievous pinning one of the symbiotes down with his metal foot and then getting to work with four lightsabers at once, while Durge deals with the other one.
August 19, 2009
#24
I still think Carnage and Durge would team up and butcher the rest of em.
August 19, 2009
#25
Why would they team up? Durge is part of the Confederacy of Independent Systems so is Grievous.
August 19, 2009
#26
Doing a tiny bit of research on Durge’s equipment, I see that he has some form of flamethrower. If it’s powerful enough, he could mow the symbiotes down. I think it’s all a matter of who moves first, though I am fond of Skrunks’s idea of Carnage and Durge teaming up.
August 19, 2009
#27
One way that the star wars team could win is use a giant built in gong and f*** the symbiots up that way
August 19, 2009
#28
@Ninja_wid_Nunchux
Actually grievous could use 5 with his foot… and Durge might be able to use one or two.
August 19, 2009
#29
@AkumaTh
as far as i no THAT IS the most recent incarnation or i wouldnt have brought it up, found it on wiki
August 19, 2009
#30
I think Carnage and Venom would be a good team. But Grevious and Durge are also very cool. Idk for now.
August 19, 2009
#31
“Why would they team up? Durge is part of the Confederacy of Independent Systems so is Grievous.”
By team up, I mean the Carnage Symbiote ditching Kletus and bonding with Durge, who might just be psychotic enough to willingly bond. Like come on, Carnage has enough strength to possibly surpass Durge, and then add that on with the already immortal badass ontop of Carnages other symbiote powers and we got one badass motherf***er. Then that monstrosity would butcher both Grievous and Venom
August 19, 2009
#32
I don’t know if he could get pass Durge’s armor. Also I don’t know if Carnage is powerful enough to overtake him.
-w2drs21
August 20, 2009
#33
” don’t know if he could get pass Durge’s armor. Also I don’t know if Carnage is powerful enough to overtake him.”
That’s my point. I don’t think he would have to. Durge would probably bond willingly. The symbiotes need a host to survive, and once bonded the host needs the Symbiote. But if the host is willing to bond, then the symbiote doesn’t need to overtake anything and the personality becomes a fusion of the two.
For example. Toxin http://marvel.com/universe/Toxin
To be honest, Toxin is one of my favorite marvel characters. He’s Carnages kid, fused with a police officer, Patrick Mulligan. He idolizes Spider-Man but found it increasingly difficult to control the Toxin symbiote. Mulligan throws himself infront of a bus, but Toxin saves him, seeing it as a cry for help. Afterwards, they make an agreement, Toxin gets two hours a night to have fun, as long as it doesn’t involve Arson, Grand theft or Homocide, and Mulligan get’s 2 hours to see his family. Outside of that, they’re a crime fighter. Oh yeah, did I mention he’s strong enough to beat both Carnage and Venom at the same time? Oh yeah, he’s badass.
August 20, 2009
#34
@ skunks
ya i read his origin story, pretty awesome i think, but he had spiderman with him in that fight and black cat, but by far my favorite symbiote. few people seem to know about him, and its a shame he hasnt been on here before
August 20, 2009
#35
I don’t know if Durge would want to merge with something that is fighting him.
btw toxin sounds pretty cool. Why don’t you request him to fight against someone.
-w2drs21
August 23, 2009
#36
Durg will win Grievous ok and they all have thick shilds especially Durg has shilds plasma and machine guns and blasters.grievous his lichtsabers and poor are faster than their eyes and their tentacles in a blow snijden.en Durg ahaha 1 light beam and the 2 in a death blow.
August 25, 2009
#37
your right that may be possible but the fight is between grievous and durge vs vemon and carnage not Carnage and Durge vs Grievous and Vemon.
August 27, 2009
#38
but grievous end durge wins i ‘ve seen in the star wars movie revenge of the sith 2005 that grievous end hies magna gards are super!!!!
August 27, 2009
#39
Omega it says ‘Grievous and Durge’ not ‘Grievous,Durge and the Magna Guards’.
August 27, 2009
#40
Yea its only Grievous and Durge. They don’t get support for the CIS
August 27, 2009
#41
Dont the symbiotes eventually die after a period of time from not having a suitable host? If you read Marvel zombies Eddie explains that the symbiote is dying due to him not being a suitable host.
These guys regularly shrug off bullets and the like but what if they were actually sliced in half? Could the symbiote keep the host alive or would it be forced to try to take over one of the CIS generals?
August 27, 2009
#42
Good point there. I am not sure. They would have a hard time getting grievous because the only openings are his eyes. I dont know about durge though.
August 29, 2009
#43
i don’t know if the symbonite could merge with durge. he has no vital organs heart guts ext.
August 31, 2009
#44
Imagine a Venom/Grievous hybrid and a Durge/Carnage hybrid…that would be pure win
August 31, 2009
#45
oh sry spelling
August 31, 2009
#46
that would be cool baron somebody. they could beat a lot of people.
September 7, 2009
#47
I don’t know if Durge wold be willing to bond. because I don’t think he knows what it would do to him.
September 7, 2009
#48
forget about what I said at post 37.
September 8, 2009
#49
What about Grievous then?
September 10, 2009
#50
@baron somebody
? what do you mean by what about grievous?
September 10, 2009
#51
nvm baron somebody. I don’t know if grievous would be willing to merge either. because they don’t know if it will harm them and take control of them.
September 10, 2009
#52
i know this is late, but to AHEM, the sun is about 27 million degrees Farenheit.
just saying….
September 10, 2009
#53
wait, there is a fallacy in my ways. the CORE is 27 million degrees Farenheit. surface is 9900 degrees Farenheit. sorry.
December 5, 2009
#54
So, if Carnage bonds with Durge and kills Venom and Greivous, who wins?
December 5, 2009
#55
“wait, there is a fallacy in my ways. the CORE is 27 million degrees Farenheit. surface is 9900 degrees Farenheit. sorry.”
I think this might be the first instance I’ve seen of someone correcting their mistake before I had the chance to . . .
December 5, 2009
#56
“So, if Carnage bonds with Durge and kills Venom and Greivous, who wins?”
Come to think of it, this is a rather strange tag-team to begin with. Grievous and Durge are hardly friends, and the only reason Venom and Carnage would team up is to temporarily fight someone they hate even more.
Maybe this would make more sense if it was Carnage + Durge vs. Grievous + Venom?
December 5, 2009
#57
“Maybe this would make more sense if it was Carnage + Durge vs. Grievous + Venom?”
Wouldnt that make Grievous a webslinging, lightsaber-tentacle weilding cyborg?! I dont know if Durnage could handle that….
December 5, 2009
#58
“Wouldnt that make Grievous a webslinging, lightsaber-tentacle weilding cyborg?! I dont know if Durnage could handle that….”
The same could be said for Durnage, except he has obscene healing instead of lightsabers.
February 21, 2010
#59
General Grievous would be awesome in venom suit style… Anyways, unfortunatelly General Grievous might loose because of the fact that his membrane casing to his organs can easily be destroyed by Venom and Canrage, but Durge would eventually kill both of the twisted Spidey outfits.
February 21, 2010
#60
carnage and venom…..their team will be turned into a 4 man team because the symbiotes can take control of whatever they want(proven in a spider-man game for pc carnage took control of doc.oc) and venom is just a giant killing machine practically. both suits give enough strength and speed to kill grevious and durge if they end up for some out of this world reasonhave to resort to killing them.
March 24, 2010
#61
Well seeing as how whats left of Grievous’s body is hermetically sealed and air tight, the symbiotes won’t be able to bond with him, as for Durge, I’m not sure how his healing abilities would handle with the symbiotes. But if they don’t try to bond, then this fight would surely go to the SW guys depending on which venom this is. If its the Eddie Brock venom, then Team Symbiote loses, but if its the superbeast Thunderbolts Mac Gargan venom, then it would be a better fight, but SW would still win.
March 25, 2010
#62
Are we talking about before or after General Grievous gets force crushed by Mace Windu and is internally damaged?
April 18, 2010
#63
Carnage absorbs Venom and then eats Durge and Grievous before Chuck Norris comes and f&*%s him up.
FIN.
May 1, 2010
#64
@ destoyhunter. were talking about grievous at full strength.
May 1, 2010
#65
I’m gonna have to go with team Symbiote on this one because of their hardass nature.
@ MEGADOOMER, it doesn’t matter if it’s Eddie or not, Venom is still Venom and Eddie would not come undone from the Symbiote.
May 13, 2010
#66
Then if it’s General Grievous at full strength, then I have to go with team Sith, because before Grievous got messed up, he was stronger (but still had problems) then when he was damaged and his organ membrane was less open to the environment.
August 21, 2010
#67
Thanks Admin for posting this. = )
As of the outcome of this match I don’t know I’ll have to read up some more on Kharn.
-w2drs21
August 21, 2010
#68
Opps wrong thread, and thanks again for posting my request.