This would make for a great fight (or video game for that matter, are you listening, LucasArts?).
Anyways, while I think Mace would put up an epic fight, in the end methinks that Starkiller would find a way to overpower him…
…your thoughts?
This would make for a great fight (or video game for that matter, are you listening, LucasArts?).
Anyways, while I think Mace would put up an epic fight, in the end methinks that Starkiller would find a way to overpower him…
…your thoughts?
February 12, 2009
#1
i know there will be challenge but starkiller wins this by long not that easy but starkiller is the most powerful force user
February 12, 2009
#2
Galen is one of the most powerful force adepts who ever lived. Mace is one of the greatest swordsman and pretty badass, but no real match for Starkiller. This can be deduced by simple equation Vader > Mace, Starkiller > Vader. Easy.
February 12, 2009
#3
“Vader > Mace, Starkiller > Vader. Easy.”
I say that you, sir, must be high. In almost every post you manage to say something of this caliber.
Please do try to explain thins “Vader>Mace” concept of yours.
February 12, 2009
#4
He did slice his arm off so quickly he couldn’t even react. And even if they did get in a fight, facing eachother, sabers drawn, it is quite obvious that Vader would win. He’s killed countless Jedi and is more than a match for Mace. By the way, why have you been such a rude jerk lately.
February 12, 2009
#5
Thepocalypse your a idit…
February 12, 2009
#6
I see, well that is purely circumstational events. It is the same reason Luke gets his arm cut of by Vader, Anakin gets his hand severed by Duku, then the rest of himself by Obi-wan, and even Solo short-circuiting Boba Fett’s jet pack. These are no real measures of strength or fighting prowess. They are simply gimmicks to further a plot.
Windu was not expecting lethal action done against him by Anakin. It is quite simple. His prowess was not known for his ability to foresee events. With his prime method of defense/offense lost, he was simply too exposed to survive the emperor’s attack, and even then, that point is still open for many a story to be developed.
After all, Boba Fett survived the Sarlac…
I did not state that you were particularly wrong, just that your statements seem flawed. They CERTAINLY do not reflect the reality of the matches.
If I seem to offend, I just ask you grow a bit of thicker skin. I am nothing but an opinion voiced through this annonymous digital medium.
I will try to not be as blunt is that helps matters. Lets just chalk this up to a bad day and its necessary outlet, and leave it at that.
February 12, 2009
#7
Wow, my dream has been realized! Oh man this is tough… well, we know if it was close combat, mace would have the advantage. If its Force, Galen does, But Galen is very good at saber combat. So i have to give the slight edge to him, because is great at force, and good at saber, whereas Mave is Great at saber, and okay at force.
Still could definentally go either way.
February 12, 2009
#8
To add to what Mata said, I would like to say that because of fact that the stronger person doesn’t always beat the weaker person in star wars makes its plot somewhat unpredictable and interesting.
P.s. i haven’t read the books, so the movies were the plot to me for the first time.
February 12, 2009
#9
Well, I don’t appreciate use of terms such as “retarded” they’re crude and have no place here. And to X on, next time you call someone an idiot, try to spell it correctly.
February 12, 2009
#10
I think that Starkiller will triumph in the end, although it will be a close fight with Windu possibly even gaining the uper hand at times. Either that or it will be over in seconds as Starkiller mercilessly crushes Mace’s head with the Force.
February 12, 2009
#11
Thepocalypse the next time you be a idiot try to shut up… i may not be the best speller but im not a idiot.
February 12, 2009
#12
Mace Windu really isnt that strong a jedi. And the Samuel L Jackson cried to get a purple light sabre LOL
February 12, 2009
#13
mace windo would win.
mace uses the saber form Vappid wich uses his own anger and the anger of your foe to boost your own power. and starkiller is one pissed of dude, mace would gain a huge advantige.
and mace has the shaterpoint skill. this is a rare force skill that alows the user to “see” and oppenents weekness.
power dosnt beat skill and mace is the most skilled jedi in the order.
February 12, 2009
#14
“And to X on, next time you call someone an idiot, try to spell it correctly.”
does it really matter if he spelled it correctly or not? your not a spelling elitist are you? even i could prove your ‘simple equation’ wrong, with one of my own.
fighter A beats fighter B, fighter B beats fighter C, fighter C beats fighter A
even if anakin was more powerful then mace does not mean mace couldent beat Galen.
February 13, 2009
#15
“does it really matter if he spelled it correctly or not? your not a spelling elitist are you? even i could prove your ’simple equation’ wrong, with one of my own.”
I’m clearly pointing out the irony of misspelling the simple word “idiot” when referring to someone as such.
February 13, 2009
#16
“I’m clearly pointing out the irony of misspelling the simple word “idiot” when referring to someone as such.”
yes mis-spelling something is so bad? i know X on hes my bro. i know he is terrible at spelling he asks me how to spell things onoccasions…or mabey? mabey he accidently didnt put the O in…ive messed up words like that before.
February 14, 2009
#17
@helatus starkiller isn`t the most powerful force user ever sion, nihilus, kreia, darth revan and jedi exile any of them could wipe the floor with him and i don`t know who would win out of mace vs starkiller i think it depend how it play out just like the end of the force unleashed where you could either end up beating the emperor or getting killed really easy by him i think it would play out like that
February 14, 2009
#18
So what George Lucas states is no longer to be considered canon?
February 14, 2009
#19
exactly they`ll say anything that get them money
February 15, 2009
#20
It’s still canon though!
February 16, 2009
#21
Im not so sure BF….Anyway, Galen marek should win.
February 16, 2009
#22
He will, the only thing that’s up for debate is the length of time he needs to do so. Seconds if he goes for the imploding head option and Windu can’t block it. It’s also hard to judge who wins with Lightsaber’s, Mace is the obvious answer but when you think about it Starkiller’s lightsaber form is also completely original, given that he wields his backhanded.
February 17, 2009
#23
fine i guess it is but lucasart just got greedy but i`ll go with starkiller cause he got a game made about him :p and i got another idea for duel the guy from fable 1 vs the guy from fable 2
March 6, 2009
#24
Wow, Darth you are an idiot. If something is considered canon by the owner or maker of something, it is obviously canon. You can go ahead and pretend any of the people you listed are the strongest force users, but that isn’t going to make it true. Face it Starkiller is the strongest force user to ever exist, you were almost there though all of those people you listed are powerful force users as well.
March 8, 2009
#25
let me just say this no one could defeat mace easily but im going to have to go with the apprentice (is what i call him none of this galen and starkiller BS) they both beat the emperor but of course that little bitch anakin had to come in and cut his damn arm off and with the apprentice gay ass kota had to say its not the jedi way so he didnt kill the emperor but good fight
March 8, 2009
#26
galen what with the personal attack i didnt call you an idiot or anyone else and you dont even know about most of the characters i listed and your just a galen fan boy
March 10, 2009
#27
Frist off I am glad that you used starkillers real name props to you admin!!!
This time I am glad to say Sith wins.
Mace (though he is a master jedi) whould stand no chance when faced with the fury of the Starkiller. Come on guys lets face it the starkiller was trained by the “One” so that alone is a winning factor but take in to account that he has such great force power that he could crush mace before mace could even turn on the lightsaber ( come on he could control a stardestroyer with the force)
P.s FUN FACT THE LIGHT SABER IS REALLY SOUND THE LIGHT COMES FROM THE CRISTAL INSIDE!!!
March 12, 2009
#28
well people sayin it canon did lucas actually say galen marek would beat mace windu and i got some suggestions proxy (the force unleashed) vs hk-47 and jimmy hopkins vs dennis the menace
April 14, 2009
#29
Starkiller because if he was distracted like in Episode 3, Starkiller could kill him.
April 14, 2009
#30
Am I the only one who thinks Mace would win? Like darkforce said, Mace Windu’s technique is Vappad, a style that he himself developed to channel his own rage, and the rage of the opponent into feedback loops. This is how he was able to defeat the Emperor so easily when even Yoda could not. And Galen wasn’t even the first to use the reverse grip, Adi Gallia was a Jedi Master from the same era as Mace, and Ahsoka Tano used the same style as well. If he used Force Lightning on Mace, Mace would do the exact same thing that he did to the Emperor. Not only that, but The Emperor’s Force Lightning was considerbly more Powerful then Galen’s. Furthermore, while Galen has such feats as pulling a Star Destroyer out of Flight, Mace destroyed an entire fricken Driod Army with his bare hands.
Oh and if you want to use that equation Theapocalyps….
Mace Windu > The Emperor. The Emperor > Galen. Therefore, Mace Windu > Galen.
It’s impossible to arbitrarily say Galen Marek is the most powerful Force User ever, since there are sooooooo many of them, and each has their own flavor. Some say the Emperor was the most powerful, which I agree with. No other Sith Lord could use the Force to create Hyperspace storms. Naga Sadow could implode stars with the Force and more then one sith had the ability to transfer his conciousness into another body. ‘Most Powerful’ is a mere matter of opinion and not a quantifiable value.
April 16, 2009
#31
I have to agree with Skrunks as far as it being a matter of opinion, but lets look at it all again shall we?
First off, although Galen Marek is the new badass hero in a new Starwars game that doesn’t mean he is the greatest, and unfortunately most people are basing their opinions on how much they kicked ass with him in the game.
Now i have both read the novel and played the game. i read the novel first because there is much more plot then in the game. The novel gets into the characters much more than the game does. not to mention the game rushes a lot of things. personally i feel that the game should have never have been made.
in the book Galen is a very powerful force user, and his abilities with a blade are very good as well, but he has only ever seen the dark side of the force until the end when he turns to the light. He hasn’t had a chance to experience all of the benefits of the lightside. There are many techniques on the lightside of the force that would allow marek to easily get the upper hand on anyone he fought when combined with his darkside knowledge.
Mace is a lightsider that had to look get very close to the darkside in order to use vappad. and if you do research on the topic, it was such a dangerous and deadly lightsaber form that anyone who wanted to learn it had to get permission from mace himself to use it. also mace has a love for fighting. something everyone will discover with some research into his character. the reason why he is such a good fighter is because he fights like a sith. cold and cruel and the only outcome he sees from a fight is the death of his enemy. which is why he created vappad because it takes all those dark thoughts that he has and uses them to his advantage while fighting by channeling that power into his form.
now that we have went over what both of their basic stats are lets look at the fight.
Marek uses a defensive stance while fighting which may help him in the fight against Mace’s offensive style of fighting.
Mace however uses so much force in his fighting that it may cause Marek to become tired after repeated attack. This can also be very bad for Mace because he may get tired as well.
Marek is very strong in the force but as i have mentioned before he hasn’t harnessed all the powers from both sides of the force to make him stronger, while Mace Has with his form of fighting.
Not to mention that the only way mace and Marek would fight would be if Marek didn’t turn to the lightside thus never gaining the knowledge of lightside powers therefor mace would defeat Marek due to Marek’s lack of knowledge in the force.
And as i have said before the only reason why some of the people on here are saying marek would win is because they kicked ass with him in a video game.
I apologize if i have offended anyone but i felt the need to get my mind across.
May 17, 2009
#32
star killer one of the most power full force user and maybe the best but mace windo is very good at the ligthsaber and starkiller is to so star killer wins
May 30, 2009
#33
Id say Galen, massive command of the force and an unpredictable fighter.
February 14, 2010
#34
I just have to say Galen, he’s just too force powerful, otherwise Mace could have a chance
June 17, 2010
#35
I’ve had it with these muthafukin siths, on this muthafukin plane!
June 17, 2010
#36
“Wow, Darth you are an idiot. If something is considered canon by the owner or maker of something, it is obviously canon. You can go ahead and pretend any of the people you listed are the strongest force users, but that isn’t going to make it true. Face it Starkiller is the strongest force user to ever exist, you were almost there though all of those people you listed are powerful force users as well.”
You are wrong.
1. We have already shown on this site that Darth Nihilus, Darth Revan, Darth Malak, Yoda, Lord Hoth, and several other Jedi are more powerful than Galen.
2. Mace Windu defeated Sidious, someone who Galen could not. Galen’s Force powers are impressive, but Mace will control the battle.
Mace Windu will find Galen’s shatterpoint and end the battle quickly.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Revan
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nihilus
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mace_windu
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Shatterpoints
June 17, 2010
#37
I’ve always taken Lucas’s statement as Marek having the highest natural ability in the series, whereas others simply have access more powerful techniques, such as the Force Storm Wormhole and Nihilus’s life drain, or have had more experience.
June 22, 2010
#38
“I’ve always taken Lucas’s statement as Marek having the highest natural ability in the series, whereas others simply have access more powerful techniques, such as the Force Storm Wormhole and Nihilus’s life drain, or have had more experience.”
Exactly, Galen is raw power. But it is uncontrolled, undisciplined, and unrefined. Mace will be able to overpower him with his experience. Sidious couldnt kill Mace with his Force Lightning. Sidious’ Force Lightning is more powerful than Galen’s. Galen wont be able to hurt Mace. Like I posted up there, Mace will find Galen’s shatterpoint (which wont be so hard because of how emotionally unstable Galen is). Then Mace will kill him.