Here we have two franchises making their first appearances on the FactPile site. For this battle, it will take place in Las Vegas. Since the city is contained within a huge valley, only 50% of each side’s forces are in the city. The remaining half of troops for both sides are outside city limits.
Which side will win?





December 3, 2009
#1
Well, this is somewhat of a confusing fight, as Borderlands have space abilities, but I’ll assume that they are not in this fight for fairness.
Now grant it, I don’t know much about Fallout, but since its release, I am a Borderlands fanatic.
Before stating my thoughts, I will wait for someone else to post more on Fallout.
December 3, 2009
#2
That borderlands pic was all I needed to see.
Borderlands wins.
December 3, 2009
#3
Fan of both, but I’ll go with Borderlands. Better guns, better rescources, better travel, etc. The greatest threat to Borderlands are the Super Mutant behemoths, but, get a few runners circling the big guys and they’re as good as dead.
December 3, 2009
#4
is this entire genre of fallout against borderland, if so i have to go with fallout with its armies of super muntants, power armored soldiers, robots, veti birds,energy weapons, mini nuke launchers and not forgetting giant battle mech Liberty Prime and aliens.
December 3, 2009
#5
Are we including the expansion for Borderlands?
I think Frankenbilly would have something to say to those puny super mutants… Plus Skagzilla, Mothrakk, the Vault creature…even Dr Zeds totally-not-made-up-brother Ned is a sizable threat…
The weaponry is another matter. How do the more powerful rockets (the 1400 damage, five rocket firing corrosives for example) compare to power armour?
How would a power armour (the main defensive helper of fallout) compare to corrosive, incendary or even shock damage causing weapons of Borderlands?
…what would anyone in the entire fallout campaign do against a Siren, a person capable of becoming intangible and causing explosions of epic proportions merely by coming out of that intangibility. Bearing in mind said sirens are far from rare, and while intangible are immune to everything from zombies to giant crabs…
I think, just by virtue of adaptability, Borderlands has a cakewalk here. Thats not to say I wouldn’t LOVE to see these two franchises brought together somehow…
December 3, 2009
#6
Correction, Fallout has been here before in the Gears of War vs Fallout, which is a universe fight like this one.
*Secretly hopes the FP Banhanmmer doesn’t crash down on my head.
December 3, 2009
#7
that big digging vehicle in the borderlands picture looks like that german superheavy mining construct…
December 3, 2009
#8
Liberty Prime FTW !!!
I’m not sure who would win.
December 3, 2009
#9
“Correction, Fallout has been here before in the Gears of War vs Fallout, which is a universe fight like this one.”
Yeah, I noticed that too. Wasn’t that just Fallout 3, though?
December 3, 2009
#10
No, wait, against Gears of War it was the whole Fallout world. My mistake.
December 3, 2009
#11
well I’m pretty sure the MIRV, gatling laser, alien weaponry, and a giant Teddy armed Rock-it launcher are more than on par with anything from Borderlands or at least any weapons I have on it…
December 4, 2009
#12
“well I’m pretty sure the MIRV, gatling laser, alien weaponry, and a giant Teddy armed Rock-it launcher are more than on par with anything from Borderlands or at least any weapons I have on it…”
At the very least Eridian weapons stand up against alien tech
The MIRV and the Giant teddy armed Rock-It luncher… both pale in comparison to a rocket launcher that can fire ten rockets in a large spread.
The Gatling laser and the FatBoy are the only things that Borderlands has no answer to, and even then Crimson Lance types look about as heavily defended as the Steel Brotherhood who don’t exactly fall in seconds.
December 4, 2009
#13
Borderlands all the way. The only possible thing I could see Fallout usin for their advantage is the Fatman. There are only sixtytwo shots for it (somewhere close to that number).
As it would be very very interesting to see, Fallout couldn’t win…
December 4, 2009
#14
Orbital superiority > Everything else
With only ground based enclaves, the denizens of Fallout era Earth are going to find life very difficult against an enemy with access to interstellar travel.
December 4, 2009
#15
“Orbital superiority > Everything else”
fallout has aliens with spaceships
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Mothership_Zeta_(vehicle)
December 5, 2009
#16
Gameplay wise I side with fallout, I can replay the story over and over.
However going off of weapons and the like, I’m going to throw my vote in with the crew from Borderlands.
Brick can take out an entire military company with his beserker mode, and for certain absorb more rockets and explosives than the Lone Wanderer can who, (if played properly) is arguably the most powerful character in Fallout 3. Someone mentioned Liberty Prime, but the borderland boys fight those Rakk Hives which are several times larger and meaner.
So while the Lone Wanderer can clean up stuff like ghouls, raiders and slavers on his own well enough — the crew from Borderlands — Mordecai, Brick, Roland and Lillith can perform similar stunts, so to the strongest character in Fallout 3, can be countered with the four main ones from Borderlands.
The fat man would be a helpful tool perhaps, but in a valley where both sides are fighting it’d be a bad idea to use. On top of this Mordecai is a certified badass with that rifle, on Fallout 3’s end there isn’t really anyone in particular that can be designated a sniper save for the player character. All the helpers in Fallout 3 are just sort of “use whatever is given” so I’m going to assume that no one can out-snipe mordecai save for an appropriately built Lone Wanderer.
So gameplay I’d keep fallout, but in terms of character strength and shoot outs, I’ll go with borderlands.
Like they say, Fallout 3 is rpg with fps elements.
Borderlands is a shooter with rpg elements. So the primary shooter wins the shootout.
December 7, 2009
#17
“fallout has aliens with spaceships”
Unquantifiable outlier.
December 7, 2009
#18
fallout has aliens with spaceships
is intended to show that in the realm, orbital superiority, both forces have ships to wield for their defence and offence, showing neither side has the greater strategic advantage over the other.
meaning one side can sit back and utterly decimate the other, while they stand their helpless.
December 7, 2009
#19
Still an unquantifiable outlier since we’ve only seen a handful of aliens throughout the series except in the case of one spuriously canon add-on to the main narrative.
That is unless you wish to prove a negative.
*rolls eyes*
December 7, 2009
#20
how does it being an add-on subtract from it being useful in this debate it doesnt stop being canon just because it wasnt part of the main game since it was designed, programmed and released by the company as a official part of the game.
since the point raised was one of orbital supremacy, in which i tried to point out that both forces have equal footing in this area.
December 7, 2009
#21
Exactly what are borderlands capabilities. Im convinced they will most certainly take this with the space assets and general lack of organized resistance in the Fallout universe
Seriously, the greatest organized resistance Fallout could put up is with the Calculator and even then it was most likely destroyed after the Events of Fallout Tactics
December 7, 2009
#22
“since the point raised was one of orbital supremacy, in which i tried to point out that both forces have equal footing in this area.”
Apparently unquantifiable has a different meaning to you than the rest of the human race.
December 7, 2009
#23
I just tried to raise the point of both sides having space capablities i wasn’t trying to say one side has an advantage over the other.
Hell i dont even know enough about borderland or its space capablities, to make that arguement.
So lets not make this something its not, if your unhappy with want i say that your problem, so if you want to throw a scenario or set of numbers, out there by my quest im sure i and lot of people will be happy to debate them with you.
But dont just sit there letting other people have i go at having a debate, only to come in and show off because to me thats not debating that is just being a smart ass with a big ego.
December 7, 2009
#24
out there by my quest
soz should be
out there be my guest
December 9, 2009
#25
Borderlands have Sirens which has supernatural abilities. Borderlands owns every anarchistic ruffians that roams the wastes.
One more thing, no one in Fallout has a hula shirt like TK Baha.
December 9, 2009
#26
“Borderlands have Sirens which has supernatural abilities. Borderlands owns every anarchistic ruffians that roams the wastes.’
Eh the Siren’s powers aren’t really impressivebesides the game says that like only thirteen people have magical powers, and if their all comparable to Lillith’s then it won’t make too much of a difference.
“One more thing, no one in Fallout has a hula shirt like TK Baha.”
yeah Fallout is screwed there
December 10, 2009
#27
The main military forces in Fallout are the Enclave and Brotherhood of Steel.
They’re both more or less remnants of earth’s militaries, the Brotherhood of Steel’s equipment is much more outdated though.
Borderlands though has interplanetary military companies and planet hopping mercenaries. Plus various forms of elemental tech that (from my knowledge) isn’t present in Fallout.
The Fallout people are stuck in a shitstorm of starvation and struggling to survive in a wasteland, while a whole lot of the Borderlands folks came to a wasteland planet to loot, pillage and plunder.
Plus Brick and Roland can stomp on everything. Brick has bolts for knuckledusters, why even try Fallout?
December 28, 2009
#28
They have different backgrounds. Sure, they are both fictional, but Fallout has actual human history and Borderlands is in a galaxy far far away (hey, that sounds familiar!). Just because they both have “Vault” doesn’t make them similar game system. IMO, Fallout crosses many barriers of basic RPG system by incorporating turn-based combat system (Fallout 1, 2 and Tactics) and then added FPS/TPS (Fallout 3). While Borderlands clearly stressed itself in FPS with character-building element, but less on some RPG elements like talking, etc. Anyway, story-wise I vote for Fallout 3 but for game-play fun it’s Borderlands.
January 4, 2010
#29
i say some shit should get narrowed down to help ease the debate this is how it should be.
Borderlands gets: the four main characters, the catch a ride vehicles and the atlus corporation,and any weapom from the game they wont.
Fallout should get: four lone wanderers built differently, the enclave, and all their tech which includes(vertibirds, power armor mark 2, tesla armor, hellfire armor, all the plasma weapons, heavy incenerators,the giant sandcrawler things they have tesla cannons, trained deathclaws, and orbital strikes. they get the strikes because they have far less numbers than atlus corp.)
and now we have a fair argue free fight.
January 23, 2010
#30
im sorry everyone but i dont know where else to put this…..
can someone plz help me i bought the goty edition for ps3 i have downloaded no content and it has frozen 8 times within 1 hour has anyone got a solution?
January 23, 2010
#31
oh its goty edition for fallout 3
February 26, 2010
#32
Fallout does have the aliens, however, Borderlands, especially now with all the DLC, has major advantage. We don’t know the stats of any of their space ships, but the Crimson Lance, Eridians, The Destroyer, Drifters, and all of the other beasts would pretty much massacre Fallout.