For this match the setting is a massive underground bunker. Lots of ways to get around, close quarters combat, carnage everywhere. First side to get 3 captures will win.
Which side do you think will get the victory?
For this match the setting is a massive underground bunker. Lots of ways to get around, close quarters combat, carnage everywhere. First side to get 3 captures will win.
Which side do you think will get the victory?
November 24, 2009
#1
Machines.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Nimrod would be able to take on all of the ETs singlehandedly… This bad mother has taken on several of the X-Men and Hellsfire club at once and proved quite a match. In fact, he disentegrated Black Rook. This dude even took on Juggernaut… AND beat him. His capabilities include creating forcefields, regenerating after being blown apart, project energy beams, highly resistant to damage by even super-human standards, etc.
Coupled with IG-88, who has an exoskeleton that is nigh invulnerable to even direct blaster bolts and a crap load of weapons that can reduce a Wookie to goo, this should be a cakewalk for the machines… Plus there are the others as well.
November 24, 2009
#2
Nimrod spends the match owning the crap out of the ET’s, while the rest of his team go capture the flags.
November 24, 2009
#3
Why does this match look so familiar?
November 24, 2009
#4
“I wouldn’t be surprised if Nimrod would be able to take on all of the ETs singlehandedly”
Powerful as the sentinel may be, you seem to be ignoring the fact that both the Predator and Zeratul have incredile cloaking capabilities.
With 50% of the team able to sneak to the target fairly undetected, that would be a massive advantage in a CTF scenario.
November 24, 2009
#5
Doesn’t Nimrod, as a Sentinel, posess scanners which would allow him to detect a cloaked/disguised opponent?
November 24, 2009
#6
As could IG-88, but I am not privy to the details.
November 24, 2009
#7
ig-88s acid proof wiring would be of great use while fighting the alien queen
November 24, 2009
#8
1. What hpens when a facehugger gets Robocop?
2. Can the alienside produce alien “fusions” of there own combatents(Chewbaccalien)?
3.How would Robocop and T-X fare against the aliens acid blood?
4.What does Zeratul do?
November 24, 2009
#9
“1. What hpens when a facehugger gets Robocop?”
i dont think robocop has much of a stomach for the alien to incubate in, and even in did it would have to dig through kevlar coated armor plates.
November 24, 2009
#10
The majority of robocop is machine, I highly doubt that a facehugger will be able to impregnate him.
Chewbacca, Predator, and the alien queen will get owned.
November 24, 2009
#11
Why does my gravatar have a unibrow ?
November 25, 2009
#12
I think on the ET side Zeratul and the Predator would be the stronger players. While on the Machines side Robocop and T-X would be the stronger players on their side. Granted I don’t know much about Nimrod. I know alittle about IG-88 but not enough.
November 25, 2009
#13
@Megoraptor: Nimrod is a future version of the Sentinel robots. He has owned the X-men in the past, and can reform his body if he is destroyed.
November 25, 2009
#14
a little info about NImrod
[quote]
Powers and abilities
Nimrod is the most highly advanced form of Sentinel robot. Nimrod can convert his outward appearance to resemble that of an ordinary human being. Nimrod can also reconstruct himself so as to make improvements in his robotic form and internal systems that will make him a more formidable opponent. Even when smashed to pieces, Nimrod can reintegrate the portions of his body to become whole again. Apparently Nimrod’s electronic consciousness can somehow exist independently of his physical body, at least temporarily.
Nimrod contains highly advanced computer systems as well as scanning devices that make it possible for him to determine whether a human being is a superhuman or not; if they are, he can determine the nature of their superhuman abilities. Like present day Sentinels, Nimrod can draw upon devices and systems within his robotic body in order to cope with or neutralize an opponent’s superhuman power once he has determined the nature of that power.
Nimrod is capable of projecting energy blasts, magnetic energy to levitate material, create force fields, and can teleport. Apparently, Nimrod has a weakness for elemental attacks such as lightning or extreme cold.
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November 25, 2009
#15
Oh wait, did I suggest this?
I think it was a good while ago. Nahce!
November 25, 2009
#16
I think the Robots have this match. IG-88 alone can handle Chewi, Queen, and probably the Predator. He has fast enough reflexes that he can observe a blaster firing, calculate its trejectory, and then move his reflective plated wrists to intercept the bolt and send it where ever he wants to bolt to go. He is like a Jedi with Wonder Woman’s wrist bands in that respect. His primary rifle is a Plasma Pulse Cannon that isn’t widely used because of its destructive nature (take that all those people who say plasma weapons are outdated by the original trilogy time; plasma isn’t used because it is too powerful).
He also has some nerve gas canisters filled with some nasty stuff, but I forget the details.
Considering what has been said about Nimrod, he should be able to do quite well.
Zeratul is the only unknown factor for me.
November 26, 2009
#17
“Zeratul is the only unknown factor for me.”
I vote for the Aliens simply because of Zeratul. The guy is a monster.
He is permanently cloaked, capable of attacking, moving and defending while staying completely invisible. He wields a Warp Blade, a manifestation of his void power that warps space time in the vicinity of the blade, allowing it to cut… well, anything. This thing trumps a Lightsaber in ever respect, and I seriously consider that anything outside of spacial warping would be capable of deflecting it, as the relative density of the object he strikes at is completely irrelevant. Next, he is several millenia old, and is no slouch in intelligence or experience. Finally, in game, is personal shield can deflect a direct strike from a Battlecruisers Yamato Cannon. Easily attributed to game mechanics, but there is no other character in the game that has a shield that strong, not even the in game model for Gantrithor, the Portoss Super Carrier. Take that for what you will. Oh yeah, and his Warp blade deals 100 damage. Consider that a siege tanks mini-nuke deals 130 in game, and you get an idea of just how powerful Zeratul is. I’d be almost willing to be that he’d take this all on his own, but the Robots got some serious powerhouses in Nimrod and IG-88. The T-X and Robocop however, are nothing to him. But still, a single slash from his Warp Blade and even IG-88 is toast.
Oh yeah, did I mention that he’s precognitive?
November 27, 2009
#18
Can Nimrod survive psionic attacks?
November 27, 2009
#19
“Can Nimrod survive psionic attacks?”
since he is a machine wouldn’t he already have a natural defense against psionic attacks, as well as he has combated serval powerful psychics in his time and has the ability to advance himself so he becomes immune to different forms of attack.
November 27, 2009
#20
i personally think that nimrod could take zeratul, zeratul maybe able to damage nimrod in their first encounter, but im going with zeratul doesnt know nimrod self repairs, so he would damage nimrod and leave, allowing nimrod to reform and adapt to zeratul attacks, added to nimrod has the ability to scan his opponents and learn the strengths and powers and come up with ways to counter them.
November 27, 2009
#21
[quote]since he is a machine wouldn’t he already have a natural defense against psionic attacks, as well as he has combated serval powerful psychics in his time and has the ability to advance himself so he becomes immune to different forms of attack.[quote]
No, you can still mind kill a robot, and it probably would be easier. Did those psionics try to mind kill him?
[quote]i personally think that nimrod could take zeratul, zeratul maybe able to damage nimrod in their first encounter, but im going with zeratul doesnt know nimrod self repairs, so he would damage nimrod and leave, allowing nimrod to reform and adapt to zeratul attacks, added to nimrod has the ability to scan his opponents and learn the strengths and powers and come up with ways to counter them.[quote]
Zeratul could just mind kill nimrod’s computer core or whatever makes him work, thus making him non-functioning, unless he can survive having his AI destroyed.
November 27, 2009
#22
@Mata
“Oh wait, did I suggest this?
I think it was a good while ago. Nahce!”
“How about…
CTF, Round 2: Machines vs Extraterrestials
T-X / IG-88 / Robocop / Nimrod Sentinel (X-Men) vs Predator / Alien Queen / Zeratul / Chewbaca
Setting is a massive underground bunker”
Mata, March 13th, 2009
The good ‘ol days…
“Powerful as the sentinel may be, you seem to be ignoring the fact that both the Predator and Zeratul have incredile cloaking capabilities.
With 50% of the team able to sneak to the target fairly undetected, that would be a massive advantage in a CTF scenario.”
“Doesn’t Nimrod, as a Sentinel, posess scanners which would allow him to detect a cloaked/disguised opponent?”
“As could IG-88, but I am not privy to the details”
True, but you guys just said that 50% of the machines can sniff them out…
I’d say that IG-88’s advanced scanners are on par with Boba Fett’s, if not more so… Though I don’t think IG-88 can disrupt cloak fields like Fett…
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OriginalA
“He has fast enough reflexes that he can observe a blaster firing, calculate its trejectory, and then move his reflective plated wrists to intercept the bolt and send it where ever he wants to bolt to go. He is like a Jedi with Wonder Woman’s wrist bands in that respect.”
lol, Very true… And considering the fact he calculated how he was going to kill all the techs in the beginning of ‘Tales’ in the most logical pattern possible within millaseconds, and the fact that blaster bolts travel around light speed, well… lets just say at least three of the ETs are pretty screwed by IG-88 alone.
“His primary rifle is a Plasma Pulse Cannon that isn’t widely used because of its destructive nature”
Yes, the pulse cannon is quite beefy, more so than most standard particle beam rifles. With a high rate of fire, this weapon shoots highly concentrated plasma rounds that make VERY short work of even armored individuals. Swiss cheese anyone? Though it pales in comparison with IG-88’s repeater, which is nearly on par with a mounted E-WEB blaster… The results are quite… explosive. MWA HA HA!
“(take that all those people who say plasma weapons are outdated by the original trilogy time; plasma isn’t used because it is too powerful).”
Whoa whoa whoa, hold on there for a moment or two. Let’s consider the fact that the pulse cannon is an advanced form of plasma weapon first of all; a heavy hitter of sorts I suppose.
Standard plasma blasters, such as the clone sidearms we see during the… Clone Wars, were only able to vaporize a 0.5m hole in a wall made out of a substance with the tensile strength of iron after the weapon was “overcharged.”
The standard E-11 particle beam weapon, however, is able to pocket “grapefruit” sized holes into walls made out of a metal that has at least one-hundred times the tensile strength of modern-day titanium in Cloud City at standard setting. More powerful shots from the weapon were shown gutting roughly 2m holes into the Death Star’s prison walls… which were made out of durasteel.
Make of this what you will…
“He also has some nerve gas canisters filled with some nasty stuff, but I forget the details.”
Well, he has several types of gas he likes to use… His most favorite being trion gas, which if I remember correctly, turns one’s insides to goo, trifaraleen gas completely disentigrates people, plus there’s his nerve gasses and other poisons that you already mentioned…
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@SirSkrunks
Zeratul sounds like the main threat from the ETs… but does he need to breath?
Hmm… He does sound like he’s made of pure uber though… I don’t know…
November 27, 2009
#23
[quote]Zeratul sounds like the main threat from the ETs… but does he need to breath?[quote]
He does need to breath, but he has shields that let him easily survive in a vacuum.
November 27, 2009
#24
“No, you can still mind kill a robot, and it probably would be easier. Did those psionics try to mind kill him?”
how exactly is it easier to mind kill a machine over a living being, since machines work off data and network signals and generally nothing like the workings of a biological entities mind,
and im not a big comic book reader, so i am unsure if the psychics tried mind attacks, against him so if anyone has any info that would be great
“Zeratul could just mind kill nimrod’s computer core or whatever makes him work, thus making him non-functioning, unless he can survive having his AI destroyed.”
wait we have no evidence of zeratul psychic ablities affecting a machine so this sound like hyperbole to me, i admit zeratul sounds like a powerful entity however nimrod is built to counter beings just like him.
November 27, 2009
#25
“He does need to breath, but he has shields that let him easily survive in a vacuum.”
But can they keep toxins with enough kick to disentigrate an entire 3m tall gorilla man within seconds from killing him?
Just wondering…
November 27, 2009
#26
]quote]how exactly is it easier to mind kill a machine over a living being, since machines work off data and network signals and generally nothing like the workings of a biological entities mind,
and im not a big comic book reader, so i am unsure if the psychics tried mind attacks, against him so if anyone has any info that would be great[quote]
By telekinetically severing the cord from his AI to the Power Generator?
[quote]wait we have no evidence of zeratul psychic ablities affecting a machine so this sound like hyperbole to me, i admit zeratul sounds like a powerful entity however nimrod is built to counter beings just like him.[quote]
““So be it,” he announced, his words ringing across the rocks and making several zerg crumple to the ground, writhing. “We shall battle.””"
Nimrod is built to handle “mutants,” not Protoss that have been in debates that kick Jedi arse.
November 27, 2009
#27
[quote]But can they keep toxins with enough kick to disentigrate an entire 3m tall gorilla man within seconds from killing him?
Just wondering…[quote]
If he can survive in the Void of space with his shield, Gas is going to be the least of his worries.
November 27, 2009
#28
[quote]
Nimrod took time to blast Colossus and Nightcrawler next, extrapolating the latter’s teleportation destinations beforehand. He knocked both of them out, leaving the X-Men leaderless (Kurt was the leader of the group at the time).Rogue threw Wolverine at Nimrod with a “fastball special” but the latter’s adamantium claws could not penetrate the forcefield of the Sentinel. Wolverine was effectively thrown into a wall and was knocked out. Nimrod then focused on Cain again. A physical blow to Cain’s head manage to remove the latter’s helmet. Finding the head of his opponent valnurable again and inapacitated him with a “tight beam of ultra high frequency sonics”. Next, Shadowcat tried to phase within Nimrod’s body. She realized Nimrod was a robot just before his energy field stunned her and send her flying. Phoenix telekinetically collapsed the entire construction field over Nimrod but he started digging his way out of the rubble. Rogue had found enough time to absorb the powers of Colossus, Nightcrawler and Shadowcat. Colossus’ strength proved useless on the Sentinel but Rogue managed to teleport away … along with Nimrod’s arm. Severely damaged and in shock, Nimrod had trouble defending itself from further physical attacks by Rogue. Nimrod had to retreat to allow its self-repair systems to restore his missing arm[quote]
in this we see nimrod fighting juggernaut (who has strength in the 100+ tonne region), wolverine (unbreakable skeleton and centuries of combat exprience), kitty pride(phasing ability),colossus(metal skin and super strength), nightcrawler(teleporting), the phoenix(massive psychic power)
and he walked away missing an arm which he later regrow from self repair.
so im thinking he can handle him pretty well against one target
November 27, 2009
#29
[quote]in this we see nimrod fighting juggernaut (who has strength in the 100+ tonne region), wolverine (unbreakable skeleton and centuries of combat exprience), kitty pride(phasing ability),colossus(metal skin and super strength), nightcrawler(teleporting), the phoenix(massive psychic power)
and he walked away missing an arm which he later regrow from self repair.
so im thinking he can handle him pretty well against one target[quote]
No one tried using psionics on him. They just collapsed a construction sight on him. One thought and hes dead.
November 27, 2009
#30
how about nimrod uses his magnetic ability to crush zeratul because he appears to wearing metal armor.
it think i have shown nimrod holding his own against a group, whose power surpasses that zeratul, added to the fact that nimrod can separate his mind from his body until it repairs itself meaning what ever psionic damage zeratul could do would be repaired and his body would adapt and make this form of attack worthless in the future.
however there is still no proof, that zeratul could use his psionic power to bypass nimrods sheilds.
November 27, 2009
#31
“But can they keep toxins with enough kick to disentigrate an entire 3m tall gorilla man within seconds from killing him?
Just wondering…”
Zeratul’s personal shield can withstand multiple applications of a Terran Science Vessels ‘irradiate’ ability, which turns these guys: http://www.robheller.com/images/blog/terran_marine_final.png into goo in a matter of seconds. Did I mention that his warp blade overkills one of the aforementioned marines 2.5 times over?
“however there is still no proof, that zeratul could use his psionic power to bypass nimrods sheilds.”
Zeratul’s primary method of attack is his warp blade. One strike from this would rend Nimrod in half, and if he needs time recuperate from simply missing an arm, that would be more then enough time to simply grab the flag.
Remember guys, this isn’t Zeratul vs. Nimrod and IG-88. Predator would be quite adept at handling the T-X and between the Alien Queen and Chewie, Robocop is mince meat. Even a few seconds of distraction is all Zeratul needs to waltz up and bisect both IG-88 and Nimrod. Hell, have the Alien Queen run the flag, she’s probably the fastest out of all of them. If all else fails, just have Zeratul sit and wait and eviscerate anyone who’s silly enough to come after the flag.
November 27, 2009
#32
[quote]how about nimrod uses his magnetic ability to crush zeratul because he appears to wearing metal armor.[quote]
Zeratul wears some unknown Protoss armor that has not proven to be magnetic.
[quote]it think i have shown nimrod holding his own against a group, whose power surpasses that zeratul, added to the fact that nimrod can separate his mind from his body until it repairs itself meaning what ever psionic damage zeratul could do would be repaired and his body would adapt and make this form of attack worthless in the future.[quote]
And he is going to separate his mind before he even knows what Zeratul is capable of?
[quote]however there is still no proof, that zeratul could use his psionic power to bypass nimrods sheilds.[quote]
Do you have proof that his shields stop psionic powers?
November 27, 2009
#33
“Zeratul’s personal shield can withstand multiple applications of a Terran Science Vessels ‘irradiate’ ability, which turns these guys: http://www.robheller.com/images/blog/terran_marine_final.png into goo in a matter of seconds. Did I mention that his warp blade overkills one of the aforementioned marines 2.5 times over?”
OK, that’s the answer I was looking for…
November 27, 2009
#34
“Zeratul wears some unknown Protoss armor that has not proven to be magnetic.”
does anyone have any info on what his armor is made of.
“And he is going to separate his mind before he even knows what Zeratul is capable of?”
He has sensors that can determine a opponents powers and ablities, so he would come up with counter-measures to zeratul.
“Do you have proof that his shields stop psionic powers?”
Nimrod has combated numerous psychic enemies, so its no hard to imagine has shields and ablities have some kind of counter-measures against psychics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aff5Lx-fkbU
7 mins in we see the x men battling nimrod including jean grey attempting a psionic attack against him.
November 27, 2009
#35
added nimrod can teleport so he can just transport to the flag, if anyone but zeratul is guarding it here will blast them away, grab the flag and just teleport again.
November 27, 2009
#36
“He has sensors that can determine a opponents powers and ablities, so he would come up with counter-measures to zeratul.”
Before he faces Zeratul and knows of his existence?
“Nimrod has combated numerous psychic enemies, so its no hard to imagine has shields and ablities have some kind of counter-measures against psychics.”
Its not hard to imagine, but does he have said capabilities? I will not assume he does.
“7 mins in we see the x men battling nimrod including jean grey attempting a psionic attack against him.”
I can’t watch youtube right now since Im home for Thanksgiving, a home that has Dial-up. Is it energy based or what?
“added nimrod can teleport so he can just transport to the flag, if anyone but zeratul is guarding it here will blast them away, grab the flag and just teleport again.”
Zeratul has shown to teleport too in the books.
November 27, 2009
#37
“Its not hard to imagine, but does he have said capabilities? I will not assume he does.”
its unfortunate that you can access the video i posted, perhaps someone else can confirm nimrod being hit be a psionic attack with no ill effect to him, the video also states it only takes him a few seconds to reform.
this has nothing to do with the psionic discussion however i thought people would enjoy nimrod pimp slapping juggernaut.
http://media.photobucket.com/image/nimrod%20vs%20juggernaut/hulknas/juggernaut13.jpg
November 27, 2009
#38
[quote]ts unfortunate that you can access the video i posted, perhaps someone else can confirm nimrod being hit be a psionic attack with no ill effect to him, the video also states it only takes him a few seconds to reform.[quote]
You do know there are psionic attacks that are meant to damage the body and not the mind.
November 28, 2009
#39
“7 mins in we see the x men battling nimrod including jean grey attempting a psionic attack against him.”
That video was hardly impressive. Let’s take a quick peak at the foes Zeratul can slap around: http://www.sc2blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/archonconcept.jpg
A protoss Archon. A being of pure psionic energy. Zeratul’s psionic shield is stronger then one of these guys, and can actually wreck an Archon in 4 swipes from his warp blade (in game).
An Ultralisk: http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starcraft/images/e/e1/Ultralisk_SC-FL_Art1.jpg
Zeratul can wreck these things like you would wreck a piece of fried chicken.
A terran Siege Tank:
http://homepage.mac.com/cheethorne/Starcraft/images/siegetank.jpg
It would take Zeratul about 3 seconds at the most to destroy this thing. 2 of those seconds are to slash the supporting marines to bits. The last is for the tank itself. In Starcraft, Zeratul could destroy a Siege Tank in two hits.
Let’s put this into perspective shall we? Zeratul’s in-game shield had 400 points. A Terran Marine’s magnetic accelerator gun did 5 damage. A Protoss Dragoon’s sheathed anti-matter blasts dealt 20 damage. A freaking Terran Battlecruiser dealt 25 damage with it’s laser batteries. A fully powered Yamato Cannon blast (which L-W estimated was on the same power scale as a Super MAC from Halo, you know the ones that wreck a Covenant capital ship) dealt 250 damage, which is the single most heavy hitting attack in the game outside of direct Nuclear Strikes, which dealt 500 damage at ground zero. The damage Nimrod or IG-88 can dish out wouldn’t even be able to harm Zeratul with any significant amount. The only chance any of them would have would be a high powered EMP blast, which would totally disable Zeratul’s shield generator. But when I say high powered, I mean high powered, as in the EMP from a nuclear weapon doesn’t even register in game on Star Craft, and the EMP ability that the Terran Science Vessel has hits so hard that it actually disables the energy from a psychic or spare energy from a ship with special weapons. If Nimrod or IG-88 can generate a magnetic pulse THAT powerful, then Zeratul’s comparatively frail body wouldn’t be that hard to wound (relatvily speaking. Unshielded, his body is still considerably more durable then the Marine I showed you up there). Keep in mind that his cloaking field is generated by his own psychic power, and that can’t be disabled.
Anyway, back to the point. The fact that in that clip, Storm was able to freeze Nimrod doesn’t lend him much credence. Zeratul would turn him inside out. Zeratul is an order of magnitude more powerful a psychic then Jean Grey (discounting the Phoenix Force). Protoss starships actually draw the energy for their weapons from the psychic nature of the Protoss pilots. These guys are tough, and Zeratul is the toughest of them all.
November 28, 2009
#40
You do know we are not suppose to debate with game mechanics?
November 28, 2009
#41
I know, I honestly don’t mean to suggest that Zeratul could tank a Yamato Cannon blast to the face and live to tell the tale. I was just trying to make a point, the point being that Zeratul is one of the most powerful Star Craft characters. The in game examples were just meant to show just how ripped he is. It’s much like when Matapiojo used Kharn’s in game statistics to show how buff he is. It’s not technically cannon, but it’s meant to give you an idea of how buff he is. I think it would take much less then two slashes to kill a terran Siege Tank. But yeah, when a character is given a higher shield value then a protoss Archon, you know he’s buff.
November 28, 2009
#42
Yes yes Skrunks, we know Zeratul’s statistics are beefy…
But IG-88’s power level…….. IT’S OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!! BLLAAAAAAARGHHHH!!!!!!!!
November 28, 2009
#43
now i can see zeratul is a heavy hitter, but nimrod bitch slapped the juggernaut then took on some of the most powerful and well trained x men in marvel, and gave more than he got.
November 28, 2009
#44
[quote]Yes yes Skrunks, we know Zeratul’s statistics are beefy…
But IG-88’s power level…….. IT’S OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!! BLLAAAAAAARGHHHH!!!!!!!![quote]
One of his clones was defeated by Boba, than Boba was defeated by a non-mobile Sarlacc pit. IG-88 is the best bounty hunter every. But it was nice when he took over the Death Star II.
November 28, 2009
#45
“One of his clones was defeated by Boba, than Boba was defeated by a non-mobile Sarlacc pit.”
Whoa, don’t try to downplay the Fett-man son… I’ll get fanboy all over this site!
Actually, three of four IG-88s were defeated by Fett. B (bombarded by a few ion cannons then destroyed with his own thermal detonators from the inside) and C (out-manuvered by Slave I… nuff said) were actually killed by him, and D (whom was with C during their assault against Fett) managed to escape to Ord Mantel, where Dash Rendar finished the heavily damaged monstrosity off…
Oh, and the only reason why Han ‘defeated’ Fett? Gimmicks to further the plot of course… That or JUI… jet-packing under the influence.
“IG-88 is the best bounty hunter every. But it was nice when he took over the Death Star II.”
That’s the best thing about IG-88, he’s not truly a bounty hunter; its a mere cover for his true motives of galactic conquest… which he was actually pretty close to acheiving…
November 28, 2009
#46
The Alien queen could make lots of Alien spawn, such as runner aliens, specifically designed to get places fast. This is a CTF, so im guessing with enough aliens you could swamp the robots (ZERG RUSH!11!!) And get the flag.
November 28, 2009
#47
“The Alien queen could make lots of Alien spawn, such as runner aliens, specifically designed to get places fast”
Alien queens can only make facehuggers, and those go on to infect other organic life so she could only produce aliens by sacrificing her team mates which would only help the machines.
November 28, 2009
#48
“Alien queens can only make facehuggers, and those go on to infect other organic life so she could only produce aliens by sacrificing her team mates which would only help the machines.”
Chewbacca Alien? Zeratul would be out of the question, since he doesn’t have a mouth, or a stomach. Protoss FTW!
Although, the match does say ‘Massive Underground Bunker’. It doesn’t say there are other people present, but it doesn’t say there AREN’T people present. The bunker would have to have been built by someone after all.
ADMIN! Are there other biological entities capable of being facehugged inside the complex? If so, are they human, or another species? How many?
November 28, 2009
#49
“Although, the match does say ‘Massive Underground Bunker’. It doesn’t say there are other people present, but it doesn’t say there AREN’T people present. The bunker would have to have been built by someone after all. ADMIN! Are there other biological entities capable of being facehugged inside the complex? If so, are they human, or another species? How many?”
Wouldn’t all this be considered outside help though? Including the alien spawns?
The rule-book of FactPile is not amused!!! More importantly, I’m not amused!!!
November 28, 2009
#50
“Wouldn’t all this be considered outside help though? Including the alien spawns?”
Arguable. Being part of her biological make-up, spawning facehuggers MIGHT not be considered outside help.
Its not like she is phoning in 100 of her closest friends to the match, though. Creating minions (even if hosts are available) will take some time. The match might as well be over before she even drops a single egg. Team ET can hardly afford one person gone missing.
As for Nimrod teleporting…
I may or may not have included that on the suggestion, but I wouldn’t allow it if it was up to me. I think teleporting should be automatically banned from CTF or KotH scenarios.
Just my opinion.
November 29, 2009
#51
Either way, the Alien Queen shouldn’t be underestimated. Having molecular acid for blood would make short work of both Nimrod and Robocop, and maybe even the T-X.
November 29, 2009
#52
I’m leaning more towards the side of the ETs just because none of them really have any defence against Zaratul’s Warp Blades. The only real danger I see on team Machine is IG88 and Nimord. All that is needed is for Zaratul to eliminate IG88 and disable Nimrod(cutting him into a 100 pieces should keep him down for awhile). Then just go for the flag since the his other team members can easily handle the XT and Robocop.
November 30, 2009
#53
Teleporting is a legit tactic in CTF matches generally. The flag however is generally immune to teleportation (Unreal Tournament rules, and what rules could count for more given the circumstances?)
As I see it… ET’s win. On the surface the teams are even. Robocop and Chewy are both pure cannon fodder. T – X and Predator two sides of an equally kickass coin, Alien Queen and IG88 seem even amd Nimrod/Zerathul are the powerhouses… I think the dvantage goes to the team with two teleporters and a wall climbing, 25 miles an hour running wrecking ball who rips through ship hulls like they were tissue. Then bleeds on stuff. (Alien Queen)
December 2, 2009
#54
ETs would WTF pwn the machines… zeratul is a straight up tank of tanks…
and there is no way to detect him… he pretty much shifts to outside reality… the spotting the Dark Templar in Starcraft are purely game mechanics… and since we arent going by game mechanics…
The machines will get obliterated…
it would be
1-3 for ETs…
the machines could teleport and get the first one…
once the flag returns Zeratul sets up shop for handing out the ass wuppins on the spawn point and has predator hidden in some pipes meanwhile the queen runs the flag back and forth… meanwhile nimrod splats chewie…
Predator:
Click click click, Hiss click roar!
Zeratul:
You Bastards!
translation-
OMG you killed Chewie!
December 2, 2009
#55
Jesus. Game mechanics, an argument does not make. Take all those in-game statistics and through them out the window. Remember, even in his own Universe, Zeratul was not always invisible. Terran missile turrets had sensors capable of picking them up and Zerg Overlords seem to have an uncanny ability to pin point where exactly cloaked enemies are. Nimrod’s may well be able to detect Zeratul. That said, Nimrod (worst name ever for a badass robot) comes to this fight with no prior knowledge of what abilities his foes have. Plus his sensors are geared to work on mutant humans. There’s no guarantee at all it’d work on extraterristrials.
December 3, 2009
#56
[quote]Jesus. Game mechanics, an argument does not make. Take all those in-game statistics and through them out the window. Remember, even in his own Universe, Zeratul was not always invisible. Terran missile turrets had sensors capable of picking them up and Zerg Overlords seem to have an uncanny ability to pin point where exactly cloaked enemies are. Nimrod’s may well be able to detect Zeratul. That said, Nimrod (worst name ever for a badass robot) comes to this fight with no prior knowledge of what abilities his foes have. Plus his sensors are geared to work on mutant humans. There’s no guarantee at all it’d work on extraterristrials.[quote]
Mainly, Missile Turrets and Overlords do that in game. We have only seen a Missile turret shoot down an Observer in one of the books, and I can not recall an Overlord ever detecting cloaked Dark Templar in the books as well. We do know that Kerrigan can detect Zeratul in their fight in one of the books though.
December 3, 2009
#57
yeah, because of the minds of Z and Kerrigan sense each other on the pscionic area… and the Observer is cloaked differently….
either way… make him as strong and as durable as an average human, with cloaking that isnt detectable by normal visual means, and blades that pretty much phase through all matter…
the only way he is going to get his is by a spray n pray… or area bombardment…
So…
ETs FTW
December 4, 2009
#58
Average human? What? Protoss are far strongert and more durable physically then a human, as well as being an average of 3 meters tall. Zeratul’s would tear a normal human in two with raw strength alone.
December 4, 2009
#59
Jwlynas got it right.
When I thought of this match, I tried to match them as equally as possible and he picked up the equivalents quite nicely. If you look closely, the teams are configured in a bit of a Warhammer 40k force organization.
Chewie and Robocop are essentially their teams’ Troop selection. Both are considerably strong grunts, but otherwise have only a few advantages over a normal human. Both have great strength, as well as comparable marksman skills. That said, Chewie might have a slight advantage as he is an experienced mechanic if the fight became a 1 on 1 between the two. That said, this advantage might be marginal in a combat situation.
Then we have the teams’ Elite selections in T-X and Predator. These two have surprising infiltating capabilities with their Cloaking and Shapeshifting respectively. In addition, they both have some potent firepower to bring into the situation as may be required.
The Alien Queen and IG-88 are meant to fulfill the roles of the Heavy Support selections. Both can increase their teams’ numbers with Facehuggers or Robot copies, but the real threat comes in their sheer power. The Alien Queen’s monstrous strength could rip any of these machines appart, and her blood could make short work of them should she come to harm. Similarly, the bounty hunter has arguably some of the more powerful weaponry in the match coupled with inhuman strength comparable to the queen’s own.
Lastly, Zeratul and Nimrod are their teams’ powerhouse HQ selections. Both individuals are night unstopable in their own right, and are quite capable of handling the oponent team by themselves. However, their leadership will be needed first and foremost to ensure the success of the scenario.
As it stands I give the advantage to the ETs as they have the better sneaking capabilities, one of them being the menacing Zeratul. That said, team Robot brings some incredible versatility as well in the form of T-X’s shapeshifting capabilities. She could easily pose for most of the team (sans the Queen) if a situation arises. Arguably, she could double her threat capability if she is able to hack into the Predator’s gear.
All in all, its a tough match to say the least. I’ll try to keep my neutrality on the situation for the time being. I think maybe the location needs to be more detailed, though. You want to take a crack at it, admin?
December 18, 2009
#60
Team 1:
NIMROD’s capabilty(s)
-able to reasemble itself
-take on incredible odds
-impervious to acid
-super strengh
IG-88
-a bucket laod of weapons
-superior senses
-very high speed
-imune to acid
-anti claok
T-X(TERMINATRIX)
-power full armor
-ability to shapeshift
-a bucket laod of weapons
-almost imune to explosives
-anti cloak
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ROBOCOP(JAMES MURPHY)
-much more creativity
-hidden 50clb pistol
-aility of flight(if he is allowed)
-combination of a smart missile launcher and 60clb caliber macine gun
Team 2
PREDETOR