Suggested by EnigmaJ
Excellent match here. Both races are in their current state in each of their respective universes. This battle takes place in the Milky Way, with each force having 70% of their forces on one side with only exploratory forces making up the remaining 30%.
Who would win?
Admin note: Skrunks, EnigmaJ beat your submission by 12 minutes. Also, I have the full-sized image of Kerrigan if you want it, I can email it to you.
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October 29, 2009
#1
Current state means Zerg win quite easily, it would be better if they were both at full strength.
October 29, 2009
#2
i agree with tim.
” Skrunks, EnigmaJ beat your submission by 12 minutes.”
ouch….that sucks
October 29, 2009
#3
i agree with tim.
” Skrunks, EnigmaJ beat your submission by 12 minutes.”
ouch….that must suck
October 29, 2009
#4
Ohh I remember this , someonne posted this as a comment and started to rant about it, I forgot what thread I saw it on.
From the information I saw on the thread they only requested it so the covenant would lose.
Zerg would win because iv read that they could almost teleport any where.
October 29, 2009
#5
Wait, how is this a Universe fight? Isn’t it more like a big Duel match?
hmm…methinks you’re right, I’ll change the category in a bit. Admin
October 29, 2009
#6
Kerrigan for the win…. not the zerg… just kerrigan
October 29, 2009
#7
The Covenant will be unable to stand against the fury of the Swarm
October 29, 2009
#8
While idk much about the Covenant, even though Ive played both Halo and Starcraft thousands of times, Im assuming that the Covenant have more advanced technology.
However, the Zerg, though technologically inferior, would win because they would overwhelm the Covenant with numbers and firepower.
October 29, 2009
#9
on the contrary, the zerg are fairly advanced, they merely have a biological nature of technolgy, rather than a mechanical one
October 29, 2009
#10
I’m pretty sure that even if the zergs rush en masse at the Covenant, they’d still win.
October 29, 2009
#11
Well, the current state of the Covenant is quite pitiful. Brutes have been mostly finished off by the Elites in Halo 3, and the Covenant is broken apart. Their industrial capacities are probably very low at the moment (they had a civil war, sorta ending their “covenant”…..). Wouldn’t take much to finish what it is left of the Covenant, if the Zerg are at full power. But what is the state of the Zerg now though?
- the pondering fool
October 29, 2009
#12
all i know is that the zerg went through a civil war of sorts and kerrigan came out as the winner.
we have to wait for starcraft 2 to find out what kind of mess the zerg are in
October 29, 2009
#13
What are you talking about… the Zerg at current state have been multiplying for 4 years…
considering they built an army in 4 weeks-4months… i think that they are doing just fine
October 29, 2009
#14
What type of naval power do the Zerg have?
October 29, 2009
#15
I am reposting the comments I made in comment 78 in the Terran Battlecrusier Vs Pillar of Autumn. Why because I’m lazy
“Here is some info on the Zerg from the wiki
“The zerg are a terrifying and ruthless amalgamation of biologically advanced, arthropodal aliens. Dedicated to the pursuit of genetic perfection, the zerg relentlessly hunt down and assimilate advanced species across the galaxy, incorporating useful genetic code into their own, and exterminate any species that might corrupt the purity of the zerg genome”
Zerg
http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Zerg
Former Leader of the Swarm known as the Overmind (The only kown why to kill it is when the Protoss mixed the energy of the High and Dark Templar)
http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Overmind
Cerebrate (Which can only be killed by Dark Templar Energy if killed by other weapon or energy it will be Reincarnate by the Overmind.)
http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Cerebrate
(The Current leader of the Swarm) Sarah Kerigan the Queen of Blades
http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Infested_Kerrigan#Infested_Kerrigan
Zerg history
http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Zerg_history
Another line from the Wiki about the Zerg having the ability to use warp space without building or stealing ships
“The zerg are able to create rifts into warp space to transport themselves at faster-than-light speeds. They used these rifts several times”
Another line about Zerg Warp travel
“Despite being a race with no use for technology, the zerg still maintain the ability to travel through warp space, as they can open large gateways into warp space. The power of these gateways was immense, able to even pull zerg off the surface of a planet, emerging at their destination. This process was highly accurate, the zerg emerging right over a planet, so accurate in fact, that it appears the zerg could enter real space within a planet’s atmosphere, as no traces of atmospheric entry (eg. a buildup of heat due to friction) ever being observed.
The zerg are still able to travel quickly and effectively through warp space after the death of the first Overmind”
Starcraft Warp Travel
http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Warp_space
The Zerg are known to infect humans. Protoss are (usually) protected from infestation by the fortitude of the Khala, but it has failed in at least one unusual circumstance.
List Cannon ends here.
What I have seen from both Zerg and Covenant the Covies will have a hard time with the Zerg. Also given the fact some folks try to make these debates about current state a weaken Covenant will be unable to defeat the Zerg who have just won the Brood War against three major Starcraft factions and a few minor factions.”
Now reposting Comment 80
“Oh the final battle in Brood War was in space and was a victory for the Zerg. It appears the vacuum of spaces doesn’t effect the Zerg and can shoot down a Battlecruiser
StarCraft – The Warp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDWihquPbso
Downing of the Norad II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQBU4qNPw1g&feature=related
Also the ending to Brood War
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSX3lmJqCxA&feature=related ”
This comment will most likly be put through moderation due to all of the links in it.
October 29, 2009
#16
I have no idea about the Zerg but it seems like they would be victorius in there “current state” Also most people no the Covenat’s current state sucks compared to there old state.
October 29, 2009
#17
What is a Zerg ship like in terms of fire power?
October 29, 2009
#18
“What is a Zerg ship like in terms of fire power?”
In truth the Zerg don’t have ships in the same sinces we think of it. Their flyers are able to survive the vacuum of space and have destroyed entire Terran and Protoss Fleets (Which is like the Covenant in terms of military abilities. Some can easily say that the Protoss has greater Army and Naval abilities.)
Scourges (aka Carrier Killers) These Zerg breed very quickly and is known as an aerial zerg kamikaze strain. Which a handful of Scourges can easily take down a Protoss Carriers (Which also shields to protect the hull of the ship.)
Skrunks has even more info about Zerg flyers as seen in the Terran Battlecrusier Vs Pillar of Autumn thread.
October 29, 2009
#19
I’d really have to go with the cheap tyranid knockoffs if only because of numbers.
Anywho. Go here please. http://s4.bitefight.org/c.php?uid=229135
October 30, 2009
#20
“You have been bitten today; therefore you remain untroubled!”
i’m sorry, was that what i was supposed to see? it looked like a cool site, and i have seen the pop-ups so curiosity won…and now disappointment gloats…
October 30, 2009
#21
They tyranid knock off??? whoa… whoa… yes a few books mention Tyranids in the 1980s and 1990s… but nobody knew what they looked like and were hardly a playable creature… then starcraft drops in 1998 and less than a year later out comes tyranid models looking strangly like zerg…. hmmm… a codex shows up a year or so later…
knock off my ass.
October 30, 2009
#22
While never wishing to get into that whole “Blizzard ripped off Games Workshop” debate, Tyranids and Space Marines were the first races in 40k. While I know less (read that as “bugger all”) about starcraft, from what people say it has more difference than warhammer/warcraft, but even so the similarities are interesting, especially from a compoany who so recently before made a game that was Orcs versus the Empire in all but name.
…On topic, Zerg win this.
October 30, 2009
#23
In the covenant’s current state they are in no condition to battle, they are still licking their wounds, before Halo they would have had a chance because of orginisation, tactics, and numbers as well.
You see how much damage one spartan (and some 1 shot kill humans) can do..
October 30, 2009
#24
Holy crap….Skrunks hasn’t posted on this yet….
October 30, 2009
#25
I think hes mad about being outsuggested by 12 minutes
October 31, 2009
#26
What? Space Marines amd Tyranids were first?! I thought it would have been Chaos…or Orkz even, but Tyranids?!
Haha, skrunks….again, “that must suck”, a whole 12minutes
October 31, 2009
#27
Maybe Skrunks is recollecting himself from the Kerrigan image issue,
October 31, 2009
#28
…Don’t feel bad Skrunks…Wasn’t THAT good of a match-up…anything involving Halo isn’t.
October 31, 2009
#29
Only if Halo is majorly out-teched or majorly out-something else. Otherwise you could create a great debate. Same goes for most debates.
October 31, 2009
#30
@Space Marine
Fight’s involving Warhammer 40K are also usually bad match-up’s so I wouldn’t make comments like that if I we’re you, especially as bad match-up’s with Halo are usually down to the bad suggestions that people have made due to bias whereas 40K fights are bad match up’s because of 40k’s stupidly overpowered design.
October 31, 2009
#31
Thats why we now keep 40k in the “Stupidly Overpowered” tier. Taking on rivals such as Nintendo….NINTENDO.
October 31, 2009
#32
But Nintendo is comprised of lots of different series that together are overpowered, and Warhammer 40K still gets put in many fight’s with vastly weaker opponents.
October 31, 2009
#33
MC gets put in against vastly overpowered opponents lifes unfair especially to one little spartan
but some of these WH40k fights have unusual surprises pop up so who knows what will happen to u try it
October 31, 2009
#34
I think its weird when people who obviously know who would win a battle, but yet suggest it anyway. Even after proof from hundred of other battles prove the point dozens of times over. *cough* SW vs H *Cough* *cough*. Excuse me I have a terrible cough right know.
October 31, 2009
#35
When I first heard of this in the other threads I was hoping that both sides would be at there peak conditon for the sake of a good debate. That is why I don’t like the current state rule it drains the fun out of this fights.
November 1, 2009
#36
@Megaraptor18
I couldn’t agree more. I think that everyone should be at their peak during these fights unless otherwise specified or unless their peak was down to special circumstances(like a plot device) and lasted for only a short time.
November 1, 2009
#37
Well I do understand why the current state rule is used namely because of dead races or races that we know little to nothing about like the Forerunner and the Xel’naga come to mind here and fanboys will use these races and say that are galaxy killers even though the info they use are rumors and here says in the universes they are in. So I understand why to remove these statements as facts and that is the only time I will support the “current state” do to the fact that there is little to no info about these long and forgottin races. However on a race or nation that we know alot about or at least more than the dead races than we should use all or nothing wars.
So I think the rule must be modifed to have both sides using their full might or at least have each debate in two phases the first phase is current state and the second phase is all or nothing. Because I was hoping for a real debate on this thread even though I support the Zerg and feel strongly that they would be able to defeat the Covenant at the Covies peak. I want to see both sides ripping each others thoats out in a brutal and bloody war and have the FP Award on the Zerg side and knowing that it was well earned. Not this all agreeing crap. In other words I want a war between Starcraft fans and Halo Fans. I don’t want none of this ACTIVE DA RINGS crap or Khrone will kill all (I know different universe but bare with me.) I want to see armies against armies and navies against navies like a war between these factions would really look like.
PS Sorry for the hushness of my commnet but it has been bugging me for a long time.
November 1, 2009
#38
I agree with you again Megaraptor, I don’t think it’s fair to use unknown extinct factions and I’d like to be able to discuss both current and strongest versions.
November 8, 2009
#39
“They tyranid knock off??? whoa… whoa… yes a few books mention Tyranids in the 1980s and 1990s… but nobody knew what they looked like and were hardly a playable creature… then starcraft drops in 1998 and less than a year later out comes tyranid models looking strangly like zerg…. hmmm… a codex shows up a year or so later…
knock off my ass.”
Wrong.
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/4779/codextyranids2ndfcover.jpg
Codex: Tyranids 2nd Edition released in 1993. 5 years before the Starcraft.
November 8, 2009
#40
Megaraptor. You know, you can always redo the match on the forums- in the alternate battles section.
November 17, 2009
#41
hmm… I have been misinformed… Anyway the zerg are awesome…. and would ROFL curbstomp the covenant…
my bad…
December 11, 2009
#42
From what I know, Covvy can screw entire cities with one ship. then we have Zerg hopping in for wormhole rides:)
Glassing, perhaps? that would be fun.
And we could also have plasma mortars pounding away, ship-to-organics.
Then we have Kerrigan.
Zealots tanking Kerrigan? one Zealot has a battle experience of approx. 100,000 enemies dead and 0 casualties. Doubt Kerry can survive.
This battle will take forever!
December 11, 2009
#43
Well given the fact that this match has stated that it is current state so the Covenant has broken to the point it can’t be repair. While the Zerg on the other hand has just won the Brood War and is the sole superpower in their universe.
December 11, 2009
#44
“From what I know, Covvy can screw entire cities with one ship. then we have Zerg hopping in for wormhole rides:)”
Zerg has dealt with races that can rip planets to shred, and win against them, the Covenant are not new to them.
“Glassing, perhaps? that would be fun.
And we could also have plasma mortars pounding away, ship-to-organics.”
The Zerg can always spread faster than the Covenant, and they can dig beneath the crust of a planet and infect planets with spores.
“Then we have Kerrigan.
Zealots tanking Kerrigan? one Zealot has a battle experience of approx. 100,000 enemies dead and 0 casualties. Doubt Kerry can survive.
This battle will take forever!”
Kerrigan can mind kill people and her carapace is strong enough that she can hold off warp blades with her bare arms.
December 12, 2009
#45
To all those wondering, somehow, I just missed this fight! I have been keeping an eye out for it for some time, and somehow it just slipped below the radar!
Anyway, bottom line, Zerg curbstomp the same way they curbstomped the Protoss. Scourges, Gaurdians, Mutalisks and Devourers swarm capital ships with enough firepower to take down Battlecruisers and Protoss Carriers, both of which are comparable to Covenant starships. The base line Zergling would rip through lines of grunts like nothing, and when you start putting in hydralsiks, Ultralisks and the like, you get a ground curbstomp unlike anything the Covenant has faced before. Ultralisks could toss UNSC and Covenant heavy armors aside like tissue paper and Hyrdalisks’ acid covered needles would make short work of any brute or elite unfortanty enough to be caugt in the path. Start placing stuff like Zerg Queens and Defilers in and you got some nasty nasty covenant soup. Defilers unleash a plague that dissolves metal and flesh alike, and queens have a nice little ability called ‘Spawn Broodling’. Basically, she throws a spore into a biological target, and two little buggers eat their way out in a few seconds.
Furthermore, Zerg are fully capable of ‘infesting’ technology, similar to the way the flood infects Capital Ships. Take a look at this infested marine: http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Infested_marine
Even at full strength, the covenant would stand no chance against the Zerg.
“Kerrigan can mind kill people and her carapace is strong enough that she can hold off warp blades with her bare arms.”
That alone gives her super-mega-ultra badass points.
January 13, 2010
#46
Это хорошо что вы начали вести блог,ведь у вас это отлично получается и надеюсь будет еще лучше. Главное писать о том,в чем вы разбираетесь. Удачи.
February 11, 2010
#47
Zerg, definitely. Even at their hight of power the Covenent forces and technology is comparable to that of the Protoss, who I think are more advanced, both races use glassing as a battle tactic so the Zerg would be no stanger to it and would have counter measures. StarCraft also brings psionic abilities into the battle, something that the Halo universe just does not have and would not have a defense against.
February 12, 2010
#48
Considering this is the current state of both factions…Covenant get curbstomped since they have been broken and shattered by joint UNSC/Elite forces in the Halo universe while the Zerg are on the rise again in the Starcraft universe.
Easy Zerg win.
August 1, 2010
#49
Notice a trend here…? Oh, that’s right. Halo is a rip off of Star Craft! HOLY SHIT!!!
Oh, yeah…and uh…Zerg would win even at the Cov’s prime. Zerg numbers can grow exponentially and would be comparable to even he Flood in terms of the quickness of a full fledged invasion. If a zerg can infest a terran and a protoss they can infest any race in the cov.
One on one many Zerg would stand above most Cov warriors too. Zerglings by no means would be anything but fodder. However hydralisks and up would tear most guys apart. Brutes, elites, etc.