Suggested by Pondering Fool
Interesting match here as we have Conan (non movie version) up against a tough fight. While I think their strength might be equal, I think Conan has too much fighting experience and that would be the determining factor for victory.
Who do you think would win?





October 18, 2009
#1
Caps, hands down. Besides the fact that Conan doesn’t have anything that could penetrate or even dent Captain America’s shield, take a look at what Conan is up agianst:
“Captain America has no superhuman powers, although as a result of the Super-Soldier Serum and “Vita-Ray” treatment, he is transformed from a frail young man into a “perfect” specimen of human development and conditioning. Captain America’s strength, endurance, agility, speed, reflexes, durability and healing are at the highest limits of natural human potential. It has been established that Rogers’ body regularly replenishes the super-soldier serum; it does not wear off.
The formula enhances all of his metabolic functions and prevents the build-up of fatigue poisons in his muscles, giving him endurance far in excess of an ordinary human being. This accounts for many of his extraordinary feats, including bench pressing 1100 pounds (500 kg) and running a mile (1.6 km) in little more than a minute. Furthermore, his enhancements are the reason why he was able to survive being frozen in suspended animation for decades. Rogers is also unable to become intoxicated by alcohol and is immune to many diseases.[citation needed]
Mentally, Rogers’ battle experience and training make him an expert tactician and an excellent field commander, with his teammates frequently deferring to his orders in battle. Rogers’ reflexes and senses are also extraordinarily keen. He has blended Judo, Western boxing and gymnastics into his own unique fighting style and is a master of multiple martial arts. Years of practice with his indestructible shield make him able to aim and throw it with almost unerring accuracy. His skill with his shield is such that he can attack multiple targets in succession with a single throw or even cause a boomerang-like return from a throw to attack an enemy from behind. In canon, he is regarded by other skilled fighters as one of the best hand-to-hand combatants in the Marvel Universe.
Rogers has vast U.S. military knowledge and is often shown to be familiar with ongoing, highly-classified Defense Department operations. He is an expert in combat strategy, survival, acrobatics, military strategy, piloting, and demolitions. Despite his high profile as one of the world’s most popular and recognizable superheroes, Rogers also has a broad understanding of the espionage community, largely through his ongoing relationship with S.H.I.E.L.D. He occasionally makes forays into mundane career fields, including commercial arts, comic book artistry, education (high school history) and law enforcement.”
The way I see it, Conan charges into battle, Caps throws the shield, which bounces off his head before returning to him. Conan in a daze, Captain America does a few back flips and kicks him in the head so hard his brains ooze out his ears.
October 18, 2009
#2
Captain America.
Shield to face=FATALITY!
October 18, 2009
#3
In JLA/Avengers (I count that as cannon due to the reappearance of the cosmic egg) Cap was shown as being on equal terms with Batman in terms of skill. Thats alot of fighting skill.
October 18, 2009
#4
Conan…… has not even the slightest chance of victory.
October 18, 2009
#5
Conan versus Captain America…
So, Warrior born versus Warrior-created?
Or, Barbarian king versus someone who thinks a shield is a really good idea for a weapon?
Or, possibly, Awesomely skilled fighter who kills without a second thought versus awesomely skilled fighter who will try everything in his power to incapacitate.
Conan wins this. They are both in the absolute peak of physical condition, and Rogers nigh infinite stamina, on paper, sounds like it’ll win it for him. but that only matters if the fight goes on for days. Conan has fought long enough to know to conserve energy, and he’s been in enough one on one duels with people his own size and strength to know the ebb and flow of combat. Captain america is rarely against people of his own caliber. Either he faces a lot of people, all of whom are worse than him, or he faces people who are big enough to manhandle him easily. Conan will fight Captain America toe to toe, and thats not something he’s used to.
A shield… Its just not as effective a weapon as an Axe, or a sword, or a spear, or any other weapon Conan uses with equal amusement. I don’t care how good you are with it, a shield is for defence and surprise attacks. If you go into battle with only a shield and your fists, and the other guy has a Weapon capable of tearing through your spandex, you’re a dead man.
October 18, 2009
#6
“Captain america is rarely against people of his own caliber”
What? So Red Skull,Baron Zemo,Taskmaster,Bullseye,Crossbones and many others are not on Caps caliber?
On the subject of the shield,you’re kinda’ downplayig it don’t you think? It’s an unbreakable shield which has taken blows from guys like the Hulk. Cappy could end Conans life with one well-aimed toss.
October 18, 2009
#7
Methinks Conan’s weapons would break on Caps shield.
A shield throw could end the match.
October 18, 2009
#8
@ Jwlynas
The Spartans suggest other wise on the sheild not being an effective weapon. Its been tested that being smacked by the bronze sheild they use is the equivalent of being in a car crash. It caused enough physical trauma to kill a man in one hit. Also both the spartan sheild and Cap’s sheild have been shown to have sharpened edges which could easily decapitate a man.
October 18, 2009
#9
“The Spartans suggest other wise on the sheild not being an effective weapon.”
No they didn’t. if they would have argued that they would have not taken swords, spears and the like. Maybe another shield instead. A shield is at its most basic level a Defensive weapon.
“What? So Red Skull,Baron Zemo,Taskmaster,Bullseye,Crossbones and many others are not on Caps caliber?”
Bullseye, no. He’s a well trained and impeccably accurate merc. Hardly a supersoldier, but he stands toe to toe with cap and occasionally, if not wins, at least forces him back.
“On the subject of the shield,you’re kinda’ downplaying it don’t you think? It’s an unbreakable shield which has taken blows from guys like the Hulk. Cappy could end Conans life with one well-aimed toss.”
So could archers, spear throwers, and a dozen other long ranged killers. Weirdly though, Conan knows to avoid projectiles. Even a shield, which is generaly a very odd thing to be seen thrown, is known to him to be painful and therefore he’s going to dodge.
It boomeranging on his could cause some issue, but by then he’ll have responded in kind. And with cap dodging, his shields not going to be going right back to him, because he might not be where he thought he would be.
October 18, 2009
#10
“@ Jwlynas
The Spartans suggest other wise on the shield not being an effective weapon. Its been tested that being smacked by the bronze shield they use is the equivalent of being in a car crash. It caused enough physical trauma to kill a man in one hit.”
Did you get that information from Deadliest Warrior: Spartan vs. Ninja…..because I still stick to the ignorant belief that the Ninja should have won!
- the pondering fool
October 18, 2009
#11
I seem to remember hearing somewhere that in a crossover between these two that Conan beat Captain America. However I myself have never read that crossover and would put my money on Cap.
October 18, 2009
#12
Lets just get this clear pondering fool thats just math they do on Deadliest warior and yes the Ninja would win But not going toe – to – toe but because a Ninja would do exactly what they said at the end of the show run away and kill the spartan in his sleep because that sheild is to much and 5 times bigger then capt America’s my money is on Conan in this fight But hes gonna be hurting.
Ok mabey that was mor then one thing and a realy long sentance but whatever
October 18, 2009
#13
“No they didn’t. if they would have argued that they would have not taken swords, spears and the like. Maybe another shield instead. A shield is at its most basic level a Defensive weapon.”
A shield is not really specialized to be an offensive weapon, but it can be used in such a manner. If it is light enough/you’re strong enough to swing it around and hit someone with the blunt edge of it to the head, it can very possibly cause a concussion or kill them outright.
However, using a shield only as a weapon is not very practical. It’s meant for defense, and offense is just a secondary function. Carrying two shields around would be rather bulky, to say the least, unless they’re really small. In the case of the Spartans, their shields were big enough to hide their whole bodies behind, and carrying two would have not only have been rather impractical, it would have looked downright bizarre.
Anyway, in terms of physical fitness and skill, it is pretty evenly matched, probably with a small advantage to Captain A, if only because it is theoritically impossible for a normal human to gain strength greater than his own without some form of superhuman enhancement. Maybe if Conan was running high on adrenaline, but not otherwise.
I think this fight will really come down to two main factors: Whether Conan can dodge his opponent’s thrown shield, and whether he can get his weapon around said shield to score a lethal hit. He would definetely not be able to break Captain America’s shield: It has strength that rivals Adamantium. His best bet would be to trick his opponent to throw his shield, dodge it, and then quickly move in and score a hit. Otherwise, I have to give the victory to CA.
October 19, 2009
#14
i give this fight to captain america
October 19, 2009
#15
Catain America : Pow! Right in the kisser
October 20, 2009
#16
so captain america throws his shield…
then what?
he dies at the hands of conan.
Conan, cleave, right down the middle.
October 20, 2009
#17
Cap wins
but his uniform isn’t spandex it is micro chain mail (or at least in places)
October 20, 2009
#18
In places yes. A good amount of his costume is however entirely unprotected. As is Conans, depending on the point of story we talk about, but then he’s used to that and has found ways around it. generally by killing first.
October 21, 2009
#19
and thrusting damage by a spear or sword…
October 21, 2009
#20
current cap uses a gun
October 21, 2009
#21
At SS: Winning post right there. A modern gun with an unbreakable shield can easily overcome any primative weapon. And avoiding a gun shot is much harder then avoiding an arrow, especially if you never seen one.
Capt. America for the win.
October 21, 2009
#22
…This match is under duels and not swordfighters isn’t it…
Damn it all, Guns ruin the fun of these epic matches/
October 21, 2009
#23
“…This match is under duels and not swordfighters isn’t it…
Damn it all, Guns ruin the fun of these epic matches/”
Well, on Factpile we do use current incarnation, then Current Captain does use a ballistic weapon (gun). Sorry Connan, but gun crushes him.
- the pondering fool
October 21, 2009
#24
What the hell kin of world is it where Captain America uses a gun… Might as well give Hulk a sword (Yes yes, I know, they already did…Stupid green Scar), or give batman an utter disregard for human life.
Joker – Whats the matter bats, can’t see the funny side anymore *insane laugh*
Batman – …No *shoots joker dead* And now to go and nail catwoman… hurr hurr
Robin …..WHAT THE HELL JUST HAPPENED? *is also Shot*
Batman – ….I’m Batman, and I can shoot people
October 22, 2009
#25
@Jwlynas
well the original cap used a gun too, but only in the war
October 24, 2009
#26
“current cap uses a gun”
CA can bring a gun to a swordfight? Well, that changes the whole equation, then. As powerful as Conan is, there’s no way he could overwhelm such a massive technological disadvantage.
November 11, 2009
#27
Bucky Cap for the easy win.
November 17, 2009
#28
With weapons I would say Conan but without them I would say Cap.
December 4, 2009
#29
If guns are brought into play, Caps undoubtedly wins easily. Otherwise, Conan might just have a chance . . .
July 4, 2010
#30
In what if… Conan walked the earth today Comic book – Conan beats Captain America (nearly slices his arm off.) Although I find it extremly impossible that COnan blocked CA’s shield throw with his sword. I think CA should have won.
July 7, 2010
#31
OK. Conan is likely the mightiest warrior that’s ever walked the earth. He eats for breakfast, beasts that the Captain would run in terror from. He’s faaaar from normal. This guy defeats gods and beasts in single combat every day of the week (except Sundays). I love Captain America, but to Conan he’s just another gladiator dressed in blue.