Warhammer 40K Vs Halo
November 27, 2008 by admin
In what seemed like a good idea at the time, here by request is the Warhammer 40K universe matched up against the Halo Universe.
I think even if you had 10,000 Spartans, this battle wouldn’t be very close.
Any hope for the Halo universe?
No chance, 40k would whup halo! A space marine is like a spartan with 37500 more years of technological advancment and psychic powers!
OMG CURBSTOMP!!!
they have hope…if the flood can get enough flood infections INTO the 40k Galaxy and infect hundred of imperial gaurd and after that capture as many things as possible and manage to stop the endless waves of tyrinids and orks while they have hte ability to take niether of them…and there only hope is that the chaos gods like them enough not to kill them all…i mean the choas gods might like the flood…some of them atleast i mean its instant followers if they can get the gravemind to join them…
which actually might work…as long as the choas gods (whichever one that would accept them) promises that they can take over anything and that they can all never die out.
otehrwise there screwed. and if the flood have the ability to take over space marines…get one woohoo…preserve him so if you manage to kill other ones you can have that one break open his armor a little bit so the flood infection and control him…or open up his helmet.
basicly halo is screwed inless the chaos gods decide the flood would be useful.
The Imperium alone own this fight. To throw in the likes of the Tyranids, Orks, Elders or Chaos would only lead to a faster, bloodier and even more hilariously tragic downfall for the Haloverse.
10,000 Spartans? Not even 10,000,000 Spartans would make a difference.
The flood could probably be quite easily equated to Tyranids… Organic, thrives on host material rather than relying on its own resources, a threat to the universe at large, an overwhelming sentience behind its every move…
And Spartans are most likely almost exact duplicates or Spaces marines when it comes to training, armour, equipment, sarcasm, plot armour, etc etc.
So it comes to the other races. Orcs and Brutes, Elites and Eldar, Vespids and the damn flying sods from Halo whose names escape me…
It could be quite a close fight, except… Warhammer 40k is a far more widely populated universe. far more resources to draw on, far more advances in technology, and for every sparten there is an entire chapter of Space Marines ready to fight to the last…
Doesn’t look good for Halo
“And Spartans are most likely almost exact duplicates or Spaces marines when it comes to training, armour, equipment, sarcasm, plot armour, etc etc.”
I have to disagree there, massively.
“And Spartans are most likely almost exact duplicates of Spaces marines”
That is completely false. Space Marines are godlike warriors. They are 8 foot tall killing machines with hundreds of years of combat experience, and they could be called some of the most powerful and most feared warriors of an entire galaxy. A SM has so many modifications and enhancements that he can’t really be called human anymore. On top of that, they have some of the God Emperor’s genetic material implanted in them. A Space Marine’s armor would barely be scratched by a Spartan’s standard weaponry. A Space Marine would simply massacre entire groups of Spartans.
The Flood are nothing compared to the Tyranids.
The Halo universe would EASILY be crushed by the Warhammer 40k Universe. The Imperium of Man alone would have no trouble cleansing it.
“The Imperium alone own this fight”.
Bah the Imperium, who needs them when you have the Orks
But seriously, L-W is right, this match offers no challenge to 40k universe.
Not with 10,000 Spartans could you do this, it is folly.
While the Elites might be able to match the Eldar (not likely though) none of the other races really compare. While the Brutes are a war like species, they are inferior to the Orks, who are more then just a war like species, they are a species which actively thrives on it. War causes them to grow, both individually and as a species.
L-W, i think he means as in they are both super soldiers with augmentations and armor,except the technology gap is massive.
Space marines use drop pods to enter the battlefield, Master Chief just crash landed with nothing but his own ego to cushion the fall…
That would suggest that the Spartan armour has (in theory) more protection as the space marine armour. I Believe terminator armour could take the landing easily, but basic tactical armour would at the very least take quite a beating from that sort of impact.
Training wise…ok Space marines have hundreds/tens (depending on the source, chapter, squad assignment) of years under their belt before being allowed to don the Tactical Armour.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for 40k’s victory here, but a Spartan Battlesuit is relatively comparable to Tactical Space Marine armour, even if eventually it fails to match it.
As to the other races, I was merely going with comparisons, rather than saying “these are fair matches”
Brutes to orcs, as in large, overly muscled, low intelligence but “cunnin’ ” creatures that employ mostly heavy hitting tactics rather than stealth and redirection
Elites to Eldar as the swift, stealthy attackers, flitting in and out of engagements where required, intelligent and ruthless, seeing other races as little more than barely sentient idiots.
Flood to Tyranids as the Biological intergalactic threat that takes the mass of other races and utilises it themselves either as a host, or as biomass that is uses to spawn more of their number.
Space marines to Spartans as genetically engineered super soldiers in battle armour with extensive training…
Its hardly a huge leap in connections is it?
actually for the imperium to fight them…i doubt hte imperium would destroy all the planets (why would the do that?) so when the imperium lets say attacks a flood controlled planet of a ring instalation that has flood in it…well we might as well wave good bye to those gaurdsmen and say hello to new flood hosts…
well there vehicles are gonna be a big challenge…scratch that near impossible so they would just need a few infection forms to get inside or a combat form it get ontop and jump in…and live.
but regardless the flood will use the imperial gaurd weapons ships and whatnot…so even four controlled ships could work for them.
now introduce really any other of the races then might as well call it quits for halo…i mean yeah halos got the dreadnuaght…but what the hell is that gonna do to a space marine cmopany!…inless the flood can manage to controll a space marine (possible…possibly) then space marines are gonan murder them. nercron will sweep through them no problem…eldar yeah they might be able to take them on. orks…HAHAHAHA. Tau…im sure some of the humans or other race’s (possibly easy to drain moral ones like grunts) would join the greater good to save there lives…weither it would work or not is iffy…
but yeah anything but the eldar and possibly the Imperial Gaurd are gonna rip through the halo universe as easy as stepping on a cracker…
“Space marines use drop pods to enter the battlefield, Master Chief just crash landed with nothing but his own ego to cushion the fall…
That would suggest that the Spartan armour has (in theory) more protection as the space marine armour.”
That doesn’t suggest anything. As I recall, Master Chief was unconscious for quite some time, meaning that if he had landed on a battlefield, he would have been one easy target for enemy forces.
Space Marines don’t have time to screw around and land all over the place and possibly end up unconscious like MC, especially when they are usually surrounded by thousands of foes. Space Marines take drop pods because they need to land on an exact spot with their squadmates and they can deploy as fast as possible once they hit the ground, instantly ready to take on any threat .
The only thing that Space Marines taking drop pods suggests is that they don’t have time for BS, and that they can enter the battlefield when they want, where they want.
The Orks would probably take one look at the Covenant and think:
“Waaagh!”
For those of you uneducated in the Ork language, “Waaagh!” indicates a Galactic genocidal orgy in which enough Orks gather together to pose a threat to every other faction entirely, although rare, it could easily happen in this instance.
“Space marines use drop pods to enter the battlefield, Master Chief just crash landed with nothing but his own ego to cushion the fall…”
This is not a reliable or proven tactic and could have easily killed Master Chief in any other situation. Thus in Halo he uses the Pillar of Autumn escape pods; and in Halo 2 we witness him using the ODST drop pods. Not only is it incredibly dangerous in itself, but it leaves the Spartan immobile for several minutes and generates enough of a signature as to leave him exposed to any recon unit passing by the area. It was fortunate that a roving band of Brutes (Or even Grunts) did not find him and destroy him whilst he was vulnerable.
Space Marines are dropped directly into the area of Combat (Sometimes right on top of the heads of the enemy), they cannot afford to sustain concussion damage at the point of impact. Although it is not to say that it is impossible; and Space Marines *have* performed intra-atmospheric insertions whilst ‘naked’. They just tend to make a lot of mess upon impact.
“That would suggest that the Spartan armour has (in theory) more protection as the space marine armour.”
Out of the four layers that compose the Space Marine battle suit, the Carapace Armour (The third layer beneath the Power Armour) is possibly the most similar construct to the Spartan armour used throughout the Haloverse saga. The Power suit is a construct unto itself and has no real equivalent in the Halo universe.
It is in the opinion of this Factpile user that a lone Space Marine is worth more than a legion of Spartans.
Necrons would own the Halo Universe alone… Theres nothing that can really stop them in the Halo Universe.
OMG, i pitty the halo universe…they are in a pittiless awakening when they fight the W40K universe….i think Sanguinus & Lion El Johnshon could pawn all of the armies of halo…..of course “Never challenge a PRIMARCH” they are totally invincible
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L-w, get ready to graciously accept another factpile award. lol
Maybe I should buy a Tuxedo instead of renting one every time.
This is a no-brainer, if the Empire could crush Halo, and 40K could crush SW…well its common sense that 40K would lay the smackdown on Halo.
“This is a no-brainer, if the Empire could crush Halo, and 40K could crush SW…well its common sense that 40K would lay the smackdown on Halo.”
actually…that is not entirly true…as i ahve posted somewhere else on this site that just becouse somone can beat another person who can beat you dosent mean you cant beat the first person…although yes halo loses….i figure best chance they got is probably the eldar or the imperium (discluding space marines.) becouse what ive heard the eldar suck. and the imperium wont just destroy the planets…inless they have to.
but if im wrong please inform me how both the imperium and eldar could murder halo…as well if IG would be affected by the flood? i need to know becouse if they can be infected…then its diffrent if they cant…its all over for halo…inless they win a ground battle and steal the weapons and duplicate them…then ground battles wont be a complete loss if flood cant infect them.
It genuinely excites me to think about how a Space Marine would tear apart a Brute with its bare hands; and with the Marines being the vanguard of the Imperial Military, the Marines would finish the fight long before the Imperial Guards get a taste.
I wonder how the likes of the Brutes would react, after so many years of witnessing Human physical weakness, to seeing a 12 foot Human Goliath tearing through their bretheren like a wet paper bag?
Actually, the same factors that determined the Star Wars Galactic Empire the victor are the exact same in the case of the Imperium. Superior numbers, resources, scale and technology. Couple this with the fact that not only do they posess the Holy Imperial Navy, which fields a fleet far grater than the combined Halo forces, but (Unlike in the case of Star Wars where it was continuously disputed) we *know* that their Planetary forces are superior to that of both the UNSC and Covenant.
All the facts point towards even the *puny* Imperium (Who by 40K standards are the median) being capable of crushing the Halo forces in a single sweep.
I’m even willing to bet that due to their Combat superiority, a single Space Marine chapter is capable of neutralizing the entire Military presence of a Halo Planet. With only around thirty known worlds (Covenant and Human combined) and over a thousand available Marine chapters, the Marines won’t even have to break a sweat destroying the Haloverse. Once entire planetary Military systems have been nullified, the Imperium could call upon several million Imperial Guards to secure the planet and begin reconstruction.
Now the Imperium does have a system in place in the instance where Planetary bodies may need to be scorched or destroyed, in this case an exterminatus order can be issued when the price of holding or retaking the world is deemed too high, or the threat of mutation or heresy too great to contain by conventional means. But I doubt the Flood could ever attain such a foothold when a single Marine squadron could decimate a Flood hive; and a Naval blockade could more than easily deny any Inter-Planetary movement.
After all, when an exterminatus order is usually issued, it is usually against Tyranid fleets or Chaos Demon infiltrations, both of which make the Flood seem placid in comparison. I’m sure if a Psyker could keep a Carnifex army (Numbering in the billions) at bay with his will alone, holding back entire Flood Hives should be of no consequence.
“becouse what ive heard the eldar suck. and the imperium wont just destroy the planets…inless they have to.”
The Eldar do not suck. They once had ruled the galaxy, and are more technologically advanced than the Imperium. Since their fall, they have been greatly weakend in numbers and power and are on the brink of extinction.
You that the Halo universe has a chance against the Imperium because they do not destroy planets. Just because the planet is not destroyed by the Imperium, doesn’t mean that they will not annihilate all opposition on it. The Halo universe has no chacne against the Imperium. The Imperial Guard forces alone probably outnumber the entire Halo Human population. The Imperium would simply hunt down and eradicate every alien and heretic in the Halo universe.
i think its probable that 5 or 6 sqauds of blood marines with vehicular support could take a halo planet!!!Predator annihilators ftw!!!
In the Halo Universe, the Humans owned around 100 worlds (a rough estimation) before 76 worlds were glassed by the Covenant.
The link if you want to check it out:http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Step_of_Silence
Covenant has unknown total number of worlds.
But all this are inconsequential when compared to Warhammer 40K.
The Imperium alone controls the whole Milky Way. The UNSC and Covenant at their peak only controlled several arms of the Milky Way combined.
Superior numbers? Warhammer 40K: 1 Halo: 0
Covenant technology is cool, but because they simply leeched off Forerunner tech, their weapons are wholly underpowered.
Whoops, accidentally separated my comment.
Back to topic…
Covenant technology is cool, but because they simply leeched off Forerunner tech, their weapons are wholly underpowered. Even then, the Warhammer 40K’s tech are more advanced than the Covenant’s.
Let’s not even talk about the UNSC, which is years behind the Covenant.
Superior Technology? Warhammer 40K: 1 Halo: 0
The Warhammer 40K’s factions can control whole galaxies, it’s no brainer that the resources they could muster would no doubt be humongous compared to the Halo universe.
Resources? Warhammer 40K: 1 Halo: 0
Conclusion: Warhammer 40K triumphs over Halo
I actually like Halo much more than Warhammer 40K, but I seriously don’t think they could beat the Warhammer 40K Universe.
I dont even think I need to put my 2 cents into this when there are 39,999.98 more in the mix.
…….see what I did there?
Fortunately for the UNSC homeworlds and colonies, the Imperium would recognise their minimal capacity to serve the Emperor and most likely absorb them; the price of being Human. Obviously any resistance (Vocal or otherwise) would be met with severe consequences and the UNSC military would most likely be dissolved and stripped.
It won’t be an easy transition for the Human colonies, but at least they may survive the difficult re-education process.
As for the Covenant? Due to the Imperiums incessant maniacal Crusade in previous years aimed primarily at Xenoforms and sub-humans; they would most likely suffer at the hands of the Imperium Inquisitor machine, who would proceed to rapidly destroy the Covenant species and homeworlds and prepare the survivors for experimentation, slavery or further genocide.
lol @ matapiojo =p
look, just th space marines alone could take all th halo forces by themselves, hell, just one of the main chapters alone probably could!!!
I probably don’t even need to comment on this as aside from the one inane, pointless remark, voting in favor of Halo, the majority opinion seems to be in favor of the 40k universe, which, of course, I also believe would beat the brakes off of the Halo universe. There are, hiwever, a couple points I would like to bring up, solely for the purpose of perhaps livening up the debate. First off, I’d like to bring up the eponymous Halo rings. What would happen to the 40k universe if one or all were fired? I personally believe that the Emperor could divert a fraction of the energy powering the astronomican to neutralize the pulse from the rings, but it might be interesting to see this topic discussed.
Several people have brought up the flood and the gravemind. Do you honestly think that the pathetic infection vectors could penetrate a space marine’s armor? If the flood did manage to take over one or two or 500 imperial worlds, I have two words for you: life eater. I personally think the Halo universe is a relatively beautiful place. The monikers for the ships and stations are gorgeous, and playing the game is like playing a violent poem, but I really think there is no chance for the Haloverse. I’m trying not to be too biased, but could you imagine the horror of the Necrons unleashed upon the flood? An Ork waagh on High charity? Think about it; it would take less than a year for the entire Haloverse to be obliterated. We’ve already established just how much more hardcore a single space marine is vs the MC, could you imagine a hero like Mephiston or Dante? Or, for that matter, a primarch or the GEOM himself? And just look what the MC did to the Haloverse. I’m telling you, no contest. At all.