Kharn the Betrayer Vs Link
November 19, 2008 by admin
On the surface, this might seem like a slam-dunk victory for Kharn. But part of what makes him vicious is also his weakness. With his chaotic attacks, I think in time Link would be able to hold off until an opportunity to strike Kharn would become apparent.
It would not be a quick fight, but in the end, the warrior from Hyrule would be the victor.
What say you?


@admin
Oh, noes. You done did it now (love the pic BTW).
Ok, lets jump in on this massacre. Everyone knows Link, but here is a link for those of you who dont know the Betrayer:
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Kh%C3%A2rn
Ok, the scenario presented has logic. It sure does. However, it is quite simply not possible for Link to even scratch this beast, much less deliver a fatal blow.
First, we are talking of a Chaos Space Marine. You know, those godly individuals that can arguably make a quick demise of MC. Well, this one is also infused with Chaos energy. He is actually the strongest champion to Khorne, The Blood God (strongest of all Daemon Gods).
This man has massacred countless other Space Marines, friend or foe. He has fought ceaslessly for TEN THOUSAND years against insurmountable odds without ever being close to death. His fighting prowess surpasses that of Daemon Princes that have fought longer still.
Gorechild, his chainaxe, is just as deadly as a Jedi Lightsaber. Links shield would be split in two on the first swing, along with the rest of his body That is if it wasnt molden down already by the Plasma shots from his pistol).
His Power Armour would stop any attack Link could hope to deliver. In addition, he has direct protection from Kohrne, shrugging off the deadliest of wounds and even attacks of a supernatural nature.
The point is that Link would be nothing but a bloody stump as Kharn continues searching for a worthy oponent.
Lets compare Link here to a small, cute puppy….
And Mr. Betrayer here to a wood chipper….
End result; a particularly wonderful blood spray covering the surrounding area….
The sight in my mind alone is quite hilarious and entertaining….
Just a little excerpt that NEEDS to be shared about this raving madman.
“On the daemon world Skalathrax, shortly after the heresy, the World Eaters and the Emperor’s Children fought. Amid the World Eaters was the champion Kharn. After a full day of vicious fighting, the terrible Skalathrax night began. Horrified, Emperor’s Children and World Eaters alike ran to their shelters, for the freezing night would kill even a Space Marine in a matter of moments.
Kharn raged over being delayed from battle for even a night. Filled with anger when he saw that his brother Marines were creeping back to the shelters, he took up a flamer and burned them down, slaying with his chain-axe Gorechild any who tried to stop him. The night was filled with the screams of the dying and the freezing as Kharn strode the streets of the dead city of black stone, killing Emperor’s Children and World Eaters alike, burning any shelters he found. The night was lit by flames as the Emperor’s Children and World Eaters fought each other and themselves for the few remaining shelters. By morning, most of the World Eaters were dead, the survivors split into small warbands, the shattered remnants of once great Companies.”
Survived freezing conditions in a daemon world, all the while burning and hacking away at countless other Space Marines. Link has no hope in hell.
whoever that other guy is he looks pretty cool and he looks as he’d pwn link so ill go with him
lmao id pay to see this
have kharn fight samus or darth vader next?
Link would win this. There is quite a bit of proof on this. Kharn would be the most worthy opponent so far, but Link has literal invulnerability. Plus Windwaker took Light Arrows to a whole new level. The Light Arrows can instantly kill anything considered evil (with the exception of Ganondorf, and that is because he had the power of a god). Plus the Master Sword is the Blade to Evil’s Bane. Kharn would stand no chance. PLUS the one weakness Kharn would have as with any who use pure strength and tech is magic.Tech always loses to magic.
LINK WINS!
@HeroofTime85
No, simply no. Even IF the sword affects “evil”, it still has to go through the mighty Power Armour. Nothing evil about this piece of equipment, just pure awesomeness. The blade would clang harmlessly while Kharn considers Liks’ skull to be worthy enough to be taken or not. Hed probably just butcher the Hyrulean just cause his in the way, not before letting out a chuckle full of pity.
Link’s invulnerabily would be put to the test by Kharn’s own. Being the champion of the Blood God has many, MANY advantages. The most important of these is to be able to negate any form of magic directed at him. Link’s magical items would have no special properties against the Berzerker.
I beleive Kharn would even make short work of Ganon (in all his forms). Nothing in The Legend of Zelda even comes close to the might of 40k, a universe that Kharn has made his sandbox like no other.
That is showing your ignorance of the Legend of Zelda (ignorance is not an insult, i’m adding this part in the comment so I don’t start a war.) The armor may not be evil, but the wearer is, plus Link could just hit Kharn with 10 at the most of the Light Arrows (I’ll give you that, because Kharn is powerful, but what I meant in the last comment is that Ganon had the power of a god in him). The effect could go through the armor, and even if you come up with something saying it wouldn’t, the armor can be broke, because I see where the armor was broke in the picture. It was shown on Windwaker that the Light Arrow can go through extremely powerful armor, because when you shoot a Darknut (strongest enemy, other weapons usually can’t break the armor) it goes through the armor and instantly kills it. Plus Link’s invincibility wouldn’t be naegated, because it’s not directed at Kharn. Since they are not one time use items that you add spells to, the only weapons that would have magic negated are the fire and ice arrows. You also underestimate Link’s strength. You can see many, probably not all on my other posts proving this. His strength, plus the added effect of the Master Sword, plus the fact that the Master Sword is a legendary weapon Link would break through his armor. Link was able to chip off a Darknut’s armor piece by piece easily on Twilight Princess with his regular strength. Link also outmatches Kharn with speed (again im not listing them all). Here’s an easy way to winthe fight:
1. Link dons the magic cape
2. Link goes up to Kharn unnoticed
3. Link uses Mortal Draw, instantly dropping his foe
I really respect you and your opinion Matapiojo. You are the only one that can argue a point that I’ve come across. I don’t want to start a big fight, so if there’s any other point, I’d be happy to to show my side of the arguement.
Btw, Matapiojo, thank you for putting up something that makes sense
I vote for Kharn.
I dont take insult at all. If I am ignorant about a topic, I preffer to indeed be informed by other. After all, thats the whole reason why we are here. Lemme see if I can adress this.
First, the issue of Kharn’s armor. Please take a look at this link to explain the basics of Power Armour:
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Power_Armour
“Possibly the most prominent feature of the Space Marines is their armor which is a synthesis of many technologies that pre-date even the Age of Strife. The suit is comprised of multiple custom crafted ceramite plates with armored fiber bundles and servos that replicate the wearer’s movements and enhances a Space Marine’s already superhuman strength, as well as allows them to easily withstand brutal attacks that would rip a normal human apart. The armor itself can also act as a self-containing environment for the suit’s owner, protecting the space marine from anything including the darkness of deep space and the most toxic environments the universe can provide. The armor interacts with the space marine through the sacred Black Carapace, a subcutaneous membrane that allows the marine’s internal organs to interface directly with the suit of power armor, making the armor in essence an extension of the wearer’s body. The most current armor model is the MkVll or Imperator model and remains the most mainstream suit of armor in use. What few know is that each space marine’s armor is so specific to its wearer that it can not be worn by 2 different marines, so precious is his armor that each space marine swears solemn oaths to honor and maintain its spirit.”
I need to pint out that the picture does not depict a broken armor. That is the way Kharn chooses to go into combat. Whether this is to help his combat prowess, or if it is purely aesthetic (to make a closer reference to roman gladiator regalias) is unknown.
The fact is that not having his left arm protected does not mean his Power Armour has been damaged. In fact, it might indicate the opposite. Seeing as this is how he chooses to go to battle, and yet he has never been harmed, shows how rescilient he is. He has been deployed into hazardous environments with this configuration, and still has come out the victor of those battles.
Second, his weaponry:
“Massive and ancient; Gorechild is a chain-axe artefact from the great crusade. Gorechild’s jagged whirling teeth were torn from the jaws of mica-dragons on Luther Mcintyre and its shaft is forged of adamantium. Even in the hands of an unskilled user (which Khârn is clearly not) the axe can split an armoured Space Marine from head to crotch. In the hands of the Betrayer, it can deliver devastating blows with deadly accuracy.”
This weapon is considered a Power Weapon in addition to other properties.
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Power_Weapons
Kharn’s axe is so deadly, that ir can rip easilly through the most heavily armored beings and vehicles in the 40K universe. I can provide further reference to the properties of these armors. Needless to say, I dont know of any equipment Link possesses that might even come close to these.
Plasma Pistol:
“Plasma weapons use magnetic fields to accelerate balls of extremely hot gases (plasma) towards the target. Although the guns themselves are quite temperamental, manufacturing of them is very common; plasma weapons find regular use throughout the armies of the Imperium.”
Kharn’s pistol is as deadly as his Axe in terms of physics and its individual properties. It is capable of absolutely ignoring the already established super strong Power Armour.
Third, physical properties / capabilities:
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Space_Marines (long read but well worth it)
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/World_Eaters
Kharn is a Space Marine infused with daemonic powers directly granted by Khorne. He is stronger than a regular Space Marine, whom are capable of lifting several tons and dismember other humanoids with their bare hands. He is also the single most skilled individual in hand to hand combat in the entire game. It would take me much too long to list the individuals which he is capable of besting in battle.
As I have mentioned before, and you keep ignoring, Khorne grants him the ability to completely negate any supernatural effect directed at him. Meaning that whoever attempt to fight Kharn, must do so in hand to hand combat. he does not even need to know the attack is comming, simply that is directed at him.
The arguments that you present are certainly valid, but alas they still amount to being the same. All those wonderfull effects would be negated in combat. Leaving poor link to face one of the deadliest foes in all of the universes with simple speed and strength.
“The Light Arrows can instantly kill anything considered evil (with the exception of Ganondorf, and that is because he had the power of a god).”
“The armor may not be evil, but the wearer is, plus Link could just hit Kharn with 10 at the most of the Light Arrows (I’ll give you that, because Kharn is powerful, but what I meant in the last comment is that Ganon had the power of a god in him).”
This is my point with the effectiveness of any of Link’s equipment. Kharn HAS the power of a God protecting him from anything with supernatural origins. Whomever Kharn’s oponent is, he is in deep trouble.
Ganondorf also has the power of a god. Link has beat him many of times. Link actually has the power of many gods. The Master Sword, much like the Blade of Olympus, has been designed to take down a god. Btw I didn’t get to see your last post because it had been awaiting moderation when I checked Factpile.
First, I invite you to read over these related topics to space marines and their capabilities:
http://www.factpile.com/archives/851#comment-30648
http://www.factpile.com/archives/832#comment-30647
http://www.factpile.com/archives/1003#comment-30642
Your devotion and knowledge of Link is commendable. You bring out some interesting points.
Due to this post I have seriously researched Kharn. In strength, Link would at least match Kharn.
I dont beleive so, not at all, but I will not dwell on this point because I dont think it bears too much weight on the outcome of the fight.
Link is also known for being quick and nimble even without any upgrades, with these, although it might not have a huge difference, Link would be faster.
Also disagree. You dont seem to understand the scope of the pysical capabilities of Space Marines. Their physical attributes are indeed supernatural.
The Master Sword, although probably the only weapon because of it automatically having it’s effect, and not having to be blessed, would negate the effect. Although it’s just because he chooses to do this, his left arm shows a vulnerable point. Link always finds a way to exploit an enemies one weakness.
Ok, first trully interesting point. Khorne, The Blood God seems to allow certain weapons to retain their properties when being used against his champion. This may be due to the fact that it tests his favoured son’s skill in combat. I beleive any ranged attack directed at Kharn would be negated of its supernatural properties, but the Master Sword might retain its power.
Which leaves the matter of the exposed arm. It is true that Link is notorious for spotting and exploiting weaknesses in his opponents. This may be a big mistake by The Betrayer, but I still dont think Link has the capabilities to trully capitalyze on Kharn’s folly.
A Space Marines movements are blinding to the naked eye. He is able to strike an opponent with his fist within fractions of a mili-second. His opponents cannot even see when he draws his weapon. He can dodge bullets. All of this is done with his armour on.
Now lets consider this bold statement made by Kharn to not be a statement at all, but to have a true purpose in combat. The Power Armour would enhance the Space Marines already enhanced strength, but perhaps it slows Kharn down. If this is the case, Link would not be able at all to follow The Betrayer’s chainaxe swings. And there is nothing, absolutely nothing, that Link has that can stop Gorechild. Nothing. This weapon tears at Land Raiders with little trouble.
To top this, you have still not understood the proficiency of the Khorne Berzerker in combat. This man not only matches, but surpasses several supernatural beings in Warhammer 40,000 canon. Avatars of gods have been cut to shreds by this maniac.
This is another topic with a monstrous creature that Kharn is fully capable of defeating in combat:
http://www.factpile.com/archives/1011#comments
In hand to hand combat, Link doesnt stand a chance.
On to the second interesting point.
If Kharn tried to shoot Link with his pistol, Link could just completely deflect it. This might damage Kharn, might not because it isn’t magic. Link’s mirror shield on a Link to the Past can easily cover his body. Plus Link has gotten hit by the full power of many gods, and easily was standing (without all of the upgrades to his defense) he can use all the upgrades.
This also brought the fact of Links Mirror Shield protection (in truth, I had completely forgotten about this shield). While I dont think this shield is enough to stop Gorechild in close combat, I do beleive it capable of deflecting Plasma fire. Sure, why not?
Should Kharn choose to stand and unleash Plasma fury onto Link, the Hyrulean might use this to his advantage. This will be the first point I will grant you.
However, this is an unlikely scenario. The only times Kharn uses his pistol is to pin his opponents down long enough for him to reach combat. The Berzerker is capable of withstanding a few Plasma shots. He may discard his pistol after the first shot is deflected by the Hyrulean hero and simply rush him. Then again, he may start unleashing Frag Grennades onto Link for the same purpose of keeping him still long enough to be eviscerated.
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All in all, nice topic. It turned from being a silly match (in my mind), to having valid arguments. I think this is the reason why we are all here, and not to simply cheer for our selections. Great job, keep em comming.
*shrug*
Seems like quotations were not propperly updated in my last post. I hope you could make out which were my words and which werent.
Yay more points to argue
Link is not human. He can react much faster than any human. His eyes are superior to the human eye. His mind is also superior. He would be able to process what Kharn does while Kharn is doing it. Link’s speed is unmatched from the pegasus boots, to the pegasus seeds, to even the Bunny Hood and everything in between. I know a Space Marines speed capabilities (One of my friends constantly babbles about Warhammer 40k, but I never truly thought about what he said until now). Kharn would be faster than a regular Space Marine I know, but in my last post that mentioned speed, I was trying to say that the difference in speed would not be great, but still enough. Link’s reflexes (as if they weren’t already fast) would speed up to where Spiderman would look like he’s in slow motion. About what you said with Link’s shields not being able to withstand Gorechild, a good deal (including the Mirror Shield) of Link’s shields are Legendary. These shields can easily withstand any blow with no damage due to the fact they are legendary. I’m not saying that all his shields are all-powerful, because I can tell you, the wood shields and the metal shields (the ones you see in many pictures of Link) could be easily tore through by Kharn like a hot knife slicing through butter, but the mirror shield cannot be lost nor broken. Luckily for Link, the mirror shield on a Link to the Past can deflect any projectile. Link can 1. block a grenade (he can easily block the explosion if not dodge it as shown on many games) or 2. the grenade can be knocked back with the mirror shield. Keep in mind this isn’t hand to hand combat. In the strength catagory. I know Kharn is strong. I say Link would at least match Kharn’s strength if not being stronger. I have read that the silver gauntlets alone will give Link the strength of an army. The Golden Gauntlets multiply this strength tenfold. The Titan’s Mitt would be the equivalent to the Golden gauntlets, multiplying that strength by the equivalent to what Golden gauntlets multiply. With just the power bracelet alone on Four Swords, Link can easily lift a HUGE tree, ripping it’s roots out of the ground. Link would have all these plus more (because again I didn’t list them all.) This match could be decided by the fact that, when in possession of the Four Sword
1.Link splits into four Links
2. most importantly Kharn would have to be able to kill all four Links at one time within 10 seconds of the first one before he even uses one of hundreds of fairies stored within the sword. (I got a hundred fifty fairies on my file) These Links are all the strength of what I’ve been talking about, and all have the option of invulnerability. One Link could 1. Hide using the stone mask so Kharn don’t know of he’s there, making Link invulnerable or 2. one could teleport away, making Kharn unable to defeat Link if he was able to manage to defeat the 3, let alone the strength of just one. I got to get off for now. I’ll post later. Add more points please.
OK
Next round…
“Yay more points to argue Link is not human. He can react much faster than any human. His eyes are superior to the human eye. His mind is also superior. He would be able to process what Kharn does while Kharn is doing it. Link’s speed is unmatched from the pegasus boots, to the pegasus seeds, to even the Bunny Hood and everything in between. I know a Space Marines speed capabilities (One of my friends constantly babbles about Warhammer 40k, but I never truly thought about what he said until now). Kharn would be faster than a regular Space Marine I know, but in my last post that mentioned speed, I was trying to say that the difference in speed would not be great, but still enough. Link’s reflexes (as if they weren’t already fast) would speed up to where Spiderman would look like he’s in slow motion.”
I am by no means contesting Link’s agility or speed, it just that I beleive you have a gross misconception of what Kharn’s own speed is. All those items indeed make Link impressive in combat, but they will leave him outmatched. Thanks to those items, Link would be able to last a little while to exange blows with the Berzerker, but he would still fall to the lightning quick strikes from Gorechild.
Kharn is much, much faster than Spiderman. I am certain he could at least match Superman’s speed when in combat and fueled by the Rage of Khorne. Contrary to even admin’s opinion, The Betreyer does not swing his axe randomly in hopes to hit something. He is quite literally the finest hand-to-hand combatant in the 40k universe. Period.
“About what you said with Link’s shields not being able to withstand Gorechild, a good deal (including the Mirror Shield) of Link’s shields are Legendary. These shields can easily withstand any blow with no damage due to the fact they are legendary. I’m not saying that all his shields are all-powerful, because I can tell you, the wood shields and the metal shields (the ones you see in many pictures of Link) could be easily tore through by Kharn like a hot knife slicing through butter, but the mirror shield cannot be lost nor broken. Luckily for Link, the mirror shield on a Link to the Past can deflect any projectile. Link can 1. block a grenade (he can easily block the explosion if not dodge it as shown on many games) or 2. the grenade can be knocked back with the mirror shield. Keep in mind this isn’t hand to hand combat.”
Like I stated previously, I indeed had forgotten about the Mirror Shield. It would be hard to compare the amazing properties of Gorechild going against that piece of gear. Trust me when I say that the Betrayer’s Chainaxe is as legendary as Link’s most famous shield. My opinion is that it could still be split asunder, but thats not a point i could trully prove. Sinse I still dont think it would be a match-winning factor, I will not continue to argue that point.
Mind you, I consider this to be the case only with the Mirror Shield. I am certain that any other would be reduced to nothing by Gorechild.
Link has been seen dodging minor explosions from what would be considered early relics in the field of explosive technology. Kharn’s explosives hail form a future many, many thousands of years ahead of anything you know today. I beleive Link could not possibly survive any detoration from a contemporary concussion or fragmentation grenade, which have several yards of an effective kill-zone, much less from such an advance piece of equipment as the Frag Grenades of the Chaos Marine.
However, even if Link would survive the shower of incomming shrapnel, that is not the weapon’s main function. Kharn utilizes these to simply force his opponent to take cover. In the case of Link, deviating his shiled to protect himself, leaving obvious openings for the Blood Champion to make a full charge.
You cannot hope to match Kharns grenades to Link’s shield using the often ludicrous physics of the Legend Of Zelda games. The statement of Link “knocking-back” one of these explosives is as ridiculous as me trying to kick back water that was thrown to me from a bucket. The explosive would simply detonate on impact. The concussive force alone would harm Link. the shield cant protect you from that at such a close range. Maybe it could mitigate some degree of damage, but certainly not all.
Again, I still think it could deflect or even return plasma fire, but Kharn would simply stop using that tactic the first instance it is exposed as folly.
“In the strength catagory. I know Kharn is strong. I say Link would at least match Kharn’s strength if not being stronger. I have read that the silver gauntlets alone will give Link the strength of an army. The Golden Gauntlets multiply this strength tenfold. The Titan’s Mitt would be the equivalent to the Golden gauntlets, multiplying that strength by the equivalent to what Golden gauntlets multiply. With just the power bracelet alone on Four Swords, Link can easily lift a HUGE tree, ripping it’s roots out of the ground.”
This is a point that I find comical. All the feats of strength I have seen Link perform (like lifting and throwing large pillars with the Golden Gauntlets) are easily matched by your regular Space Marine. Space Marines are able to lift several tons, and like Ive stated before, Kharn is a Chaos Lord infused by the power of the Blood God.
Kharn is MUCH stronger than any Marine. Link’s bones would shatter under the force of Gorechild meeting the Mirror Shield for the first time. Such a tremendous force would render that limb completely useless, if not producing even more catastrophic pysical trauma.
“This match could be decided by the fact that, when in possession of the Four Sword
1.Link splits into four Links
2. most importantly Kharn would have to be able to kill all four Links at one time within 10 seconds of the first one before he even uses one of hundreds of fairies stored within the sword. (I got a hundred fifty fairies on my file) These Links are all the strength of what I’ve been talking about, and all have the option of invulnerability. One Link could 1. Hide using the stone mask so Kharn don’t know of he’s there, making Link invulnerable or 2. one could teleport away, making Kharn unable to defeat Link if he was able to manage to defeat the 3, let alone the strength of just one.”
Some of the thing pointed out are a bit silly, stone mask or what-not. These will not provide Link a true advantage.
Splitting into four might become a minor nuisance, but Kharn has completely decimated entire armies of Space Marines, always thirsting for even more combat. That would be a good strategy to run away, though. Just dont bank on it to win you this fight.
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Some of the points you bring serve only the purpose of making the match a bit more interesting. However, they will not win him the fight. The outcome of this fight has been clear from the start. Link’s final fate would be to have his skull be lost under the throne of Khorne.
I say again, Link cannot win this fight.
He is simply not en the same league. This maniac belongs in the playground of Darth Vader, Superman, Durge, etc.
You dont understand the power that runs through Kharn’s veins. Sinse you seem to completely ignore the properties of regular Space Marines, I think I need to make clear the power of Khorne itself.
Khorne is the Daemon God that dominates any and all spheres of influence that involve combat, blood shed, rage, murder, savagery, brutality, mercilessness, victory, fighting prowess, strength, etc. He is fueled by any all emotions across a entire universe, spanning several galaxies, full of constant and brutal warfare. Trillions of cassualties have fueled his rage and strengthen his dominion. The Skull Throne climbs higher every passing moment with skulls of his fallen oponents (in no small part due to Kharn). Make no mistake, the Blood God is far stronger than any Diety you have ever seen in the world of Zelda.
Kharn was resurected as his champion after an incredible amount of butchery and mayhem performed against his peers at the fight against the walls of Terra. From that point on, he has faced numerous monstrosities that would make Link quiver like a little girl, and has come out the victor.
Never close to death.
Never surrendering.
He feels no pain.
He feels no mercy.
His only concern is to provide his master with worthy blood, no matter where it may come from. He Lived for over TEN THOUSAND YEARS of constant and brutal combat that Link could never even hope to imagine. Always the victor atop mounds of corpses. Link’s only hope is to teleport away and never come face to face with this maniac again.
I’ll start this one point at a time I understand Kharn’s speed. I’ve looked up much that talks about it. I am still unconvinced that Kharn would outmatch Link in speed (also just letting you know I have also read that Kharn has fit his fighting style so that every blow hits.) You also don’t realize. Although these things make little sense to us, they are still a factor in these universes (I myself don’t see how any projectile on a Link to the Past can be deflected by the mirror shield yet it happens anyways. You are underestimating Link’s strength. I realize that the Golden Gauntlets would give Link the strength of an average Space Marine, but it’s not Golden Gauntlets alone. It’s a matter of mathematics that some people just don’t understand. With each upgrade Link has (Again not all are listed) his strength is multiplied. For example Golden Gauntlets x Titans Mitt = Golden Gauntlets x X In words if you were to multiply the Golden Gauntlets by the Titan’s mitt, it would multiply Link’s strength by the number that the Golden Gauntlets would multiply it by. Again I say Link would at least match Kharn in strength. With the Mirror Shield, like Gorechild and the Master Sword, being legendary, cannot be broken, It is also made to where it can protect the wearer from anything. You say that I am ignoring the fact that Kharn is the daemon god on Warhammer 40k. You say that that is more powerful than any Deity in LoZ. You underestimate them. Link has the power of many of these deities. Kharn has the power of one. Since we cannot prove that either is more powerful than another (and that in almost all stories, they are made to balance eachother out) we would have to assume that every deity is of equal power. The stone mask as you were dissing would make Link completely unnoticed by Kharn a fact that cannot be escaped, plus the fact that Kharn would have to defeat four Links within 10 seconds, when noone has even been able to prove that Kharn could defeat one. One thing I have yet to mention that may play a huge factor is that Link has control over time. This could play a factor in many ways, but I don’t exactly like the idea myself simply because it would render an opponent defenseless. Plus you say that Kharn lives for battle right? Although there is little known about him, that is exactly what the Fierce Deity lives for. Although there is little released about the Fierce Deity so far, I know a big factor about the Fierce Deity. You remember how powerful the Majora is? In case you don’t I’ll remind you. He is able to control even life itself (shown through turning Kafei into a child, transforming others effortlessly into whatever, cause the moon to start to crash into Termina, etc) because he is so powerful. When he fought the Fierce Deity, in his form (Majora’s Incarnation) he landed one blow on the Fierce Deity (If you beat Majora’s Mask you know how fast this thing attacks.) It did absolutely nothing when it hit the Fierce Deity. In an attempt to be strong enough to do any damage, he turned into Majora’s Wrath (his strongest form) the Fierce Deity effortlessly ended Majora in one blow. One fact you seen to be ignoring is all the facts of Link’s abilities to become invulnerable. He cannot die nor get hurt. You also seem to be ignoring Link’s incredible durability. He can last through anything, plus even if he were to get a wound of any sort (although he could easily take 50+ of Kharn’s blows, he could take that multiplied but I don’t want it to sound rediculous) he can instantly heal himself to max with a quick spell. I haven’t said that Kharn has no chance ONLY because I want to keep this up because
1. this is extremely fun
2. It seems like I’m the only one that knows things about LoZ and I want to end the fact that many other LoZ fans don’t know what they’re talking about.
Please keep this going (and throw in some new points please) I’m not near ready to stop debating this
It’s most fun when I can debate something with you Matapiojo. We’ve kept this debate going so far, let’s make it last longer.
Kharn the betrayer vs Link…
My moneys on the Betrayer.
Whatever attributes you give link, and I will not dispute them, the simple fact is Link is inexperienced compared to Kharn, and his enemies are ill equipped in comparison to even the basic foot-sloggers that Kharn decimates on a daily basis.
Link versus someone from the Warhammer fantasy Universe I could see as a fair match, indeed I would probably put link ahead of the vast majority of those heroes (Though Link Versus Malekith would be interesting…Could the Master sword be broken by the Destroyer?…I digress)
I will concede that the Gorechild (Kharns axe) could possibly be blocked by the Mirror Shield. As powerful as the Gorechild is, it is primarily a power weapon with dragons teeth instead of normal blades. I would even go so far as to say that the mirror shield exhibits much the same abilities, even enhanced abilties, when compared to a collar of Khorne (The user becomes, with skill, able to block magical attacks and even send them back towards the foes… Keeping the user safe from harm when it comes to projectiles of a magical nature)
This brings the contest back to skill.
Kharn has fought countless enemies over a period of ten thousand years. Link, if we take all of his adventures into account and even allow that its the same link in every game which can be debated, still can only boast a mere few hundred years. Legendary fighter or no, there is little chance that Link can outfight someone with so much more experience.
the day we see Kharn in Smash brothers however (Which is a day I pray for constantly) is the day we all know for sure.
Link has more experience than you know. Link retains the skill and experience of all the lives he had before. Also the Fierce Deity has lived thousands of years, and all he lives for, much like Kharn is the excitement of battle. Plus it is not just magic that the mirror shield can block and deflect (not that that’s important in this fight) Throw some more points up will ya?
Ah, was not aware of the retaining of skill or experience, nor this “Fierce Deity” that has suddenly cropped up… Always assumed the Name and title passed to each successive hero. That does alter things greatly.
Lets put Link in comparison to an Eldar Phoenix Lord then. Preferably Karandras (the preference for green, close combat specialisation… Same pointy hat too)
Just trying to place into a similar context in universes, for a fair comparison. Now someone may argue Link is more/less powerful than a Phoenix Lord, but for now the comparison will do.
Phoenix Lords are nigh-immortal souls infused into a mortal body, even if killed all it takes is for one to don the armour and the soul revives. The experience of hundreds, thousands of years is known by all of them and their skills are compared (lore-wise, rather than tabletop-wise) to the Primarchs. (superhuman even compared to the superhuman space marines, best of the best, gentically engineered perfection by someone who is, in essense, God).
Could Kharn beat one of them… much as I want to say otherwise, no. He couldn’t.
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