Amazing, this is the first time that Alucard appears on the site, and I have a feeling it won’t be the last. As powerful as Naruto is, I think it would take one heck of an effort for him to win…
What say you?
Amazing, this is the first time that Alucard appears on the site, and I have a feeling it won’t be the last. As powerful as Naruto is, I think it would take one heck of an effort for him to win…
What say you?
January 8, 2010
#1
well i can fight more, insta-kill highly unlikely, substitution jutsu.
not sure about alucard strength is but grappling someone whose base level strenght is 5+ tons
January 8, 2010
#2
is probably a bad idea.
January 8, 2010
#3
I believe you keep forgetting that Alucard has a extremely powerful regeneration rate. Like literally a bloody stump and coming back laughing.
January 8, 2010
#4
“This is incorrect. Some of the effects of the Sharingan such as the “pre-cog” and enhanced reflexes are automatic. However, some of the the other stuff like the illusion techniques and what Sasuke did to Naruto’s demon fox require a level of skill.”
I wouldn’t say that. If you become someone else, you get acess to all they got, because you are that person. If I became Usain Bolt, i would get one hell of a lot faster. Similarily, if I became L-W my posts would instantly get a much higher quality. Same with Sasuke. And what did Sasuke do to the fox? Apart from looking at it, touching it and wanting it to go away. We have no reason to believe he knew what he was doing, apart from entering Narutos subconciousness. As Alucard can do that even without the eyes, he just does that and then goes “I touch you, you die!” In this situation, very little skill seems to be needed.
“This also explains why Sasuke didn’t use this technique against Naruto the first time they fought. Sasuke even explain himself that the Sharingan is not something you can “just use”.”
Well, it was Zetsu talking, the talking bubbble(wtf is that thing called in english?) just appeared beside Sasuke. Anyway, the reason he didn’t use it the first time was that he simply wasn’t good enough to enter the subconciousness at that point. Now he knows, and this knowledge would be Alucards if he became everything Sasuke is, apart from personality.
My take on becoming someone else, anyway. If i rendered reality itself to become someone else, I would expect getting the full package.
January 8, 2010
#5
no im not forgetting that, like everbody keeps forgetting that naruto isnt weak and he can put up a fight.
i dont think alucard reality warping works like that, not sure really. he controlls his on localized reality. so im pretty sure that body morphing into sasuke wouldnt give him sasukes memories or sharingan knowlegde, and seeing as he cant get any of sasukes blood it probably wont help much.
sasuke’s sharingan is what stops the kyuubi, upper level stuff that alucard coulld access immediately. im not gonna say only the sharingan can control the kyuubi because that would be a fallacy, assuming that nothing else can affect it even though the opponent is from another universe.
im going to say that he couldnt surpress it because he doesnt kno a thing about chakra.
January 8, 2010
#6
@Dark
Which is faster to appear? A bullet going around the speed of sound or so…or the fox cloak manifesting around Naruto? Personally i say the bullet.
January 8, 2010
#7
@prime
“Which is faster to appear? A bullet going around the speed of sound or so…or the fox cloak manifesting around Naruto? Personally i say the bullet.”
The fox cloak has a HUGE chance of not even apearing, even if Al does play around with him for an hour or 2
January 8, 2010
#8
well i got off the cloak 4 a minute seeing as how it take as a sec to come, but the entire purpose of al playing with him would be to push him to his limits, so it’ll show,
@Prime
“Which is faster to appear? A bullet going around the speed of sound or so…or the fox cloak manifesting around Naruto? Personally i say the bullet.”
yea probably the bullet, but comes in just in case substitusion jutsu.
do any of you know how canon works with multiversal characters like Sora from KH, because i cant get this guy cyborg to understand that the FF characters in KH arent the same incarnations as the game and movie ones both instead part of the KH universe where their currently canon.
January 9, 2010
#9
“well i got off the cloak 4 a minute seeing as how it take as a sec to come, but the entire purpose of al playing with him would be to push him to his limits, so it’ll show, ”
I doubt that, the seal has been renewed, thats like saying naruto could use the cloak when he threw a temper tantrum as a child.
All KH char’s are unique, their original version has no similarities to them other than face and some other qualities. EG areith is still alive, and mickey dosent have a clubhouse.
January 10, 2010
#10
@envoy
“well i got off the cloak 4 a minute seeing as how it take as a sec to come, but the entire purpose of al playing with him would be to push him to his limits, so it’ll show, ”
“I doubt that, the seal has been renewed, thats like saying naruto could use the cloak when he threw a temper tantrum as a child.”
wow thats a lot farther than i tried to make it sound. and i thought that fixing the seal only kept him from going nine-tails i didnt know he would never be able to use kyuubi forms again. without kyuubi forms its not much of a fight because i dont think sage mode has the same durability.
January 10, 2010
#11
it doesnt matter i think, isnt the rule that both characters are at their peak power.
January 10, 2010
#12
Rules are that characters are at their current/most recent incarnation.
January 10, 2010
#13
“it doesnt matter i think, isnt the rule that both characters are at their peak power.”
Like Asger said, we use current incarnations unless otherwise specified. (unless we use a dead character, in that case we usually use the last living, battle worthy version.) And if you wanna get technical, Narutos peak is Sage Mode. His fox form isn’t one bit his own power, the fox is in charge and he generally has nothing to do with it. Just a thought.
January 10, 2010
#14
well sage mode dont give the durability he needs to live and his seals been reset so no kyuubi power.
the fox maybe in charge, but is it not naruto’s body? are they not one in the same? pretty sure it’ll kill him if he lose it.
but this fight is over because sage mode alone aint gonna cut it, and i dont know how long he can use substitution jutsu to survive, but it wouldnt matter. and he’s basically not gonna have access to any kyuubi power.
January 10, 2010
#15
“wow thats a lot farther than i tried to make it sound. and i thought that fixing the seal only kept him from going nine-tails i didnt know he would never be able to use kyuubi forms again.”
No its just that the seal was reset, until it weakens again I doubt naruto could use the cloak, unless the manga shows different. Even then, the cloack would kill naruto eventualy, giving alucard the win.
January 10, 2010
#16
awwwww man thats sucks….at least it cant get fixed again, and i thought the cloak killing him from rapid regen and injury would only even factor in when he reverted back to naruto then he’d insta die.
his wiki said that his entire body mass became chakra so i didnt know upper lvl kyuubi forms hurt him until after the fact.
well i can be wrong and naruto can lose
Alucard>naruto
March 4, 2010
#17
People, people… seriously? Alucard at his weakest state could solo the Naruto universe, at his strongest it’s MORE than over kill. He is omnipresent and reality warping at strongest. Alucard’s also much faster and stronger than anyone in Naruto up to date. I mean, that’s all that really needs to be said. o_O
March 28, 2010
#18
This goes to Alucard,I’m sure that the Kyuubi Naruto would amuse Alucard for a while,however eventually this fight would just end up like the Luke Valentine battle.I mean that as in:Naruto would impress Alucard enough for Alucard to go in his released state and there by massacre Naruto.Actually I don’t think that Naruto can even take on Alucards normal state…all Alucard really has to do is shoot Naruto in the head…
March 28, 2010
#19
“People, people… seriously? Alucard at his weakest state could solo the Naruto universe, at his strongest it’s MORE than over kill. He is omnipresent and reality warping at strongest. Alucard’s also much faster and stronger than anyone in Naruto up to date. I mean, that’s all that really needs to be said. o_O”
whoa, hold up. thats maybe true, but he cant beat tenchi masaki, or sailor moon.
March 28, 2010
#20
@Dark
Alucard would WTHPWN both Tenchi and Sailor Moon. They can’t destroy him and his massive guns of death would blow them to pieces before they could even react. Also Sailor Moon is the most retarded anime i know of. Hell the majority of parody anime kick its ass and the little girl is stupid as hell.
March 28, 2010
#21
“whoa, hold up. thats maybe true, but he cant beat tenchi masaki, or sailor moon”
Wait!!! You do know that Alucard has reality warping powers, right? And you also know that he can make a stand to Kharn whereas the ones you mentioned couldn’t, don’t you?
Anyways, all Alucard needs is to put a bullet in Naruto’s skull and be done with it.
March 28, 2010
#22
Infact the only Naruto characters that can even harm Alucard are:Madara,Pain,Itachi,Sasuke,Hidan,Orochimaru,Kyuubi Naruto,The Hokages,Jiraya,Gaara,Killer Bee(Basically all of the Jinchurukies),and only a few other mere characters that probably would only land a few hits on Alucard before getting devastated.Actually that goes for all the people I just listed,they would only land a few hits before Alucard goes in his released state and gets his demon dogs to gobble up the characters lol…
March 28, 2010
#23
“Alucard would WTHPWN both Tenchi and Sailor Moon. They can’t destroy him and his massive guns of death would blow them to pieces before they could even react. Also Sailor Moon is the most retarded anime i know of. Hell the majority of parody anime kick its ass and the little girl is stupid as hell.”
funny alucard could hurt her with his guns. guns meet planet busting tiara. alucards only win factor is perfect immortality and some reality warping.
“Wait!!! You do know that Alucard has reality warping powers, right? And you also know that he can make a stand to Kharn whereas the ones you mentioned couldn’t, don’t you?”
so you are telling me that Alucard can defeat kami tenchi. so how does alucard kill an omnipotent, omnipresent, Omniscient cosmic anomaly with infinite abilites and a multiversel level of durablity. the man escaped a blackhole. he couldnt kill tenchi with light hawk wings and you expect me to believe he could kill kami tenchi?
how does he defeat sailor moon, the on who almost destroyed the galaxy cauldron which galaxia used to create galaxies. how does he defeat someone FTL to the point they fly from Sol to the galactic core and back in moments. how does he stand against someone who has a battle spanning galaxies and planets get destroyed by acciedent. how will he kill someone who can tank a planet busting hit and keep fighting.
oh yea he wins because he cant die!!! thats the only reason he ever wins anything. similar to wolverine execpt more broken. he would defeat both of them thru outlasting them since neither are true immortal. alucard would just stand there and die for about 100 yrs.
whoever let sailor moon and tenchi fall to kharn was obviously a fool.
March 28, 2010
#24
“so you are telling me that Alucard can defeat kami tenchi. so how does alucard kill an omnipotent, omnipresent, Omniscient cosmic anomaly with infinite abilites and a multiversel level of durablity. the man escaped a blackhole. he couldnt kill tenchi with light hawk wings and you expect me to believe he could kill kami tenchi?
how does he defeat sailor moon, the on who almost destroyed the galaxy cauldron which galaxia used to create galaxies. how does he defeat someone FTL to the point they fly from Sol to the galactic core and back in moments. how does he stand against someone who has a battle spanning galaxies and planets get destroyed by acciedent. how will he kill someone who can tank a planet busting hit and keep fighting.
oh yea he wins because he cant die!!! thats the only reason he ever wins anything. similar to wolverine execpt more broken. he would defeat both of them thru outlasting them since neither are true immortal. alucard would just stand there and die for about 100 yrs.
whoever let sailor moon and tenchi fall to kharn was obviously a fool.”
oh, oh, oh, FANBOY ALERT!!!!!
What part of Reality warping powers didn’t you get.
And you know who can also defeat Tenchi and Sailor Moon? No? well, you might laugh but it’s Inoue Orihime. How? Well, she’d just reject their existence and be done with it.
March 28, 2010
#25
“And you know who can also defeat Tenchi and Sailor Moon? No? well, you might laugh but it’s Inoue Orihime. How? Well, she’d just reject their existence and be done with it.”
yea theres a lil thing call CIS, so she wouldnt do that first of all. i know about her i watch bleach.
as for alucard what are his reality warping abilities besides being everywhere and know where? what is the most amazing thing alucard has done with his powers? has he ever warped someone out of existance? tell me how he wins fights against high teir characters thru means other then perfect immortality.
“oh, oh, oh, FANBOY ALERT!!!!!”
Plz.
“What part of Reality warping powers didn’t you get.”
the part where you tell me how good alucards are. just because he can warp reality doesnt instantly make it end all. just like all abilities there are lvls of this power. i ve seen him in total controll of his own local reality, but not on the scale of say genie who can create anything out of nothing. or even impower others into omnipotent beings such as himself. and break the forth wall. alucard doesnt do this. alucard hasnt even warped anyone off the earth.
March 28, 2010
#26
I would like to point out that the manga ended with Alucard saying he is now “everywhere but nowhere”. Pretty much meaning you have to destory everything including the attacker and every piece of matter everywhere.
March 28, 2010
#27
@Darkbladex96
Does post 26 answer your question regarding reality warping powers? If not, think omnipotency with these too boot:
Alucard demonstrates, in various incarnations of the series Hellsing, an astonishing and overwhelming range of supernatural attacks; these include, but are probably not limited to:
* Immortality (which is connected with how many souls he has absorbed).
* Regeneration: Alucard’s ability to regenerate is considerably greater than any other vampire’s, and may be due to the Hellsing family’s experimentation. He has regenerated from a pool of blood and from being blown to shreds by gunfire.
* Superhuman senses.
* Incredible accuracy: Alucard has been known to hit targets at great range (one kilometer) using handguns while looking the other way.
* Superhuman strength: Extent is unknown, but Alucard can physically rip humans apart with ease.
* Superhuman speed: He can move faster than can be seen.
* Intangibility: The ability to pass through solid objects.
* Invisibility: He seems to turn invisible for a moment when fighting Incognito in the Gonzo anime.
* The ability to defy gravity to an uncertain limit. He is also seen leaping impossible distances and can run up walls.
* Manipulation of shadows into physical form. (Although vampires controlling shadows isn’t unheard of, the black-and-white artwork usually used for manga sometimes makes it difficult to distinguish between blood and shadows.)
* Shape shifting: Alucard can transform himself or parts of himself into bats, insects, snakes, hell hounds, a little girl, an amorphous mass of darkness, and many other forms
* The ability to control the weather to an unknown limit, as demonstrated by the fog created when he returned to London aboard the H.M.S Eagle.
* Teleportation.
* Telekinesis: In the Gonzo anime series, Alucard is able to lift a FREAK chip and was able to load the Jackal and pull its slide mentally. The exact weight of these things is unknown, but Alucard is never seen using telekinesis to move anything heavier than a human being. In the manga, Alucard locks the door of the hotel exit when pursuing a GATE officer, stating that “it won’t open” when the officer attempted to escape.
* Telepathy: In the anime, Alucard can speak telepathically to anyone he chooses; but in the manga, his telepathy is limited to his fledgling. In the Anime he spoke telepathically to Integra when she was about to get killed by her uncle.
* Mind reading: In the Gonzo anime series, Alucard can read the mind of anyone he chooses; but in the manga, he can only read the minds of the people whose souls he has absorbed.
* Mind Control or Hypnosis (fans sometimes call it the “sex beam” after a remark from Pip).
* Summoning familiars, the souls of those whose blood he has sucked in a variety of forms that either sprout from his body or swarm about him as an army numbering in the thousands. These familiars can also include animals such as horses and the weapons and abilities that the familiars possessed in life, but Alucard can only use this ability when control art restriction system level zero is released. These souls act as a sort of backup for attacks that could potentially harm Alucard. If hit with such an attack, it destroys the familiars rather than harming Alucard to an irreparable extent.
* The ability to suck a person’s blood and absorb their soul and, consequently, their knowledge and memories. (Example: He learns more about Millennium after absorbing Tubalcain.) He can also absorb blood through his clothes and skin, as he does with Luke Valentine’s blood after his hell hound had eaten Luke’s body.
* Hibernation: Alucard is able to survive long periods of time without consuming blood, but is able to fight at a usual level of strength after drinking blood.
* Apparent immunity or great resistance to the weaknesses most vampires possess. His abilities and health are not in any way compromised by such things as sunlight or silver. In fact, it appears that the only weapons capable of harming him to any real extent are the most holy of Christian artifacts, such as Father Anderson after augmenting his abilities with Helena’s Nail.
* The ability to sense supernatural activity (In Hellsing: The Dawn, Alucard knew the Captain was a werewolf the moment he saw him, and in the OVA, could see the blessings on Father Anderson’s bayonets).
* In addition to his superhuman abilities, Alucard also possess centuries of combat experience. While he usually relies on crushing his opponents with sheer power, he does at times use strategy. When he fought Alhambra, Alucard used shadow duplicates to distract him, allowing Alucard to close the distance between them and deliver the deathblow.
March 28, 2010
#28
“If not, think omnipotency with these too boot:”
No omnipotency. Complete master of himself, not of the universe. He can theoretically become whatever he wants, but there’s no omnipotency in the picture. Doesn’t mean he won’t curbstomp Naruto, though.
March 28, 2010
#29
@Whacko
my bad, sorry. i misinterpreted his powers
March 28, 2010
#30
um wow i kno all of alucards powers, and i know so the big post wasnt need, as i thought alucard has low level reality warping, hes nowhere near tenchi. and he only surpasses sailor moon in the fact that she isnt omnipresent.
two of the powers he doesnt have anymore, the familiars and immortality via souls.
“The exact weight of these things is unknown”
the weight is very known, walter tells him how much they weigh in hellsing ultimate.
“I would like to point out that the manga ended with Alucard saying he is now “everywhere but nowhere”. Pretty much meaning you have to destory everything including the attacker and every piece of matter everywhere.”
thats all it would take? i really doubt thats all it would take to kill alucard. but this isnt outside Kami tenchi’s power. his power was so great that it toke the 3 creators of the multiverse to surpress it. when he finally managed to ascend he was all powerful and all knowing, he is more powerful then D3 and the counteractor. he would have no hope against tenchi.
seeing as alucard can destroy planets, he wont be able to harm sailormoon, so he would have to outlast her, as he usually does in an alucard debate.
actually ichigo could kill, alucard.
March 28, 2010
#31
Ichigo? How? Last time I checked, Alucard was way outta his league.
March 28, 2010
#32
He has immortality by being able to have complete control over his own existence. He is “everywhere but nowhere”. That means he could be inside “Kami” Tenchi’s mind and screw it over. That also means he can screw over Sailor moon.
March 28, 2010
#33
“actually ichigo could kill, alucard.”
no…. just no. Alucard surpasses them badly. He could just dominate their minds/destroy the atomic construction of their bodies etc.
In fact, Alucard doesn’t even have to “exist” in the way we tend to think of it physically to combat enemies. Most combatants woudn’t even have a method of harming Alucard.
For the record, I would say Kharn would be made a mockery of against Alucard, To put it in perspective as someone else previously stated, Wolverine’s durability is utterly laughable compared to Alucard’s. He’s arguably among the most OP non super-tech anime characters created to date.
March 28, 2010
#34
Yeah, I love Kharn but he’ll find himself at a friggin huge disadvantage against Alucard.
March 28, 2010
#35
Unless its the Alucard before the end of the manga when he had over 3 million or so odd souls. Then it might be pretty fair considering that the majority of those souls weapons won’t have any effect on Kharn.
March 28, 2010
#36
“For the record, I would say Kharn would be made a mockery of against Alucard, To put it in perspective as someone else previously stated, Wolverine’s durability is utterly laughable compared to Alucard’s. He’s arguably among the most OP non super-tech anime characters created to date.”
This what prime and have discussed previously, even kharn…
March 28, 2010
#37
“He has immortality by being able to have complete control over his own existence. He is “everywhere but nowhere”. That means he could be inside “Kami” Tenchi’s mind and screw it over. That also means he can screw over Sailor moon.”
so he would be inside the mind of an omnipotent entity, thats not much of an advantage. tenchi would still have total dominace and control of the situation, and while the cat boy was shown inside others mind he never demonstrated the ability to actually harm someone like that. he cant kill tenchi.
sailormoon maybe…
“actually ichigo could kill, alucard.”
no…. just no. Alucard surpasses them badly. He could just dominate their minds/destroy the atomic construction of their bodies etc.
he mind controlled a soldier in an elevator. not that great, ichigo fights for control of his body regularly. destroy the atomic construction of thier bodies what? when did he do this? if alucard gets hit by the soul destroying attack of a soul reaper, he goes goodbye.
and exactly what does this kharn guy do?
“In fact, Alucard doesn’t even have to “exist” in the way we tend to think of it physically to combat enemies. Most combatants woudn’t even have a method of harming Alucard.”
true he doesnt, but for some reason he like the physical plane.
“Ichigo? How? Last time I checked, Alucard was way outta his league.”
only because he’s omnipresent and perfectly immortal; however the bleach cast is 1 of the few that have the means to kill him. all soul reaper attacks target and destroy souls, if alucard decides to tank one of those like he usually does, then he loses his soul, if he doesnt have a soul he losses cat boys soul meaning no everywhere nowhere.
March 28, 2010
#38
“exactly what does this kharn guy do?”
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Kharn
also check any fights that kharn has participated here on the site
March 28, 2010
#39
Does Alucard even have a soul anymore? Does he even exist in a way comprehensible to us? How can his soul be targeted, since physically he exists everywhere and nowhere.
That’s the problem, you can’t target the beast, you have no idea where and who he is when suddenly your mind and body are taken control of, or (since he is always inside any of his enemies bodies since he exists everywhere) he just manipulates their basic body biology, instantly killing them.
March 28, 2010
#40
so basically you are trying to tell me that any character regardless of power lvl falls to alucard,
thanos, super sonic, superman, spawn full power, galactus, silver surfer, one above all, the living tribunal, D3, unicron, so there is no character on factpile that can defeat alucard. no matter how omnipotent of not what your saying is that no one beats alucard.
March 28, 2010
#41
Now it would be going too far to say that he could beat anyone.
March 28, 2010
#42
Could Dr. Manhatten beat the guy?
March 28, 2010
#43
let me put it this way.
can you kill what you cannot see?
March 28, 2010
#44
Doubtful. Someone on here once described Alucard with his “everywhere but nowhere” abilities to be pretty much a psychotic Dr. Manhattan
March 28, 2010
#45
Sorry for the double post. Actually yes i can BD. I just need a LMG and go full auto while spinning and sooner or later i’ll kill someone thats invisible. JK. I see your point.
March 28, 2010
#46
I guess the only way to really beat is make him believe he does not exist.
March 28, 2010
#47
Which i bet Dark will say that “Kami” Tenchi can accomplish that despite Alucard knowing hes “everywhere but nowhere”.
March 28, 2010
#48
“I guess the only way to really beat is make him believe he does not exist.”
Good luck with that. He’d sooner make you believe that YOU don’t exist.
March 28, 2010
#49
“Which i bet Dark will say that “Kami” Tenchi can accomplish that despite Alucard knowing hes “everywhere but nowhere”.”
Prime, that would be the ranting of a fanboy, because, apparentely Tenchi is a PARAGON, he’s PERFECT…
March 28, 2010
#50
@Darkblade
I suppose Lelouch could “kill” him with Geass…
March 28, 2010
#51
this is unfreakingbelieveable. you people would give alucard a win over an omnipotent being. i just found like 4 peoples who never should be listened to.
@Belisaurius
“I suppose Lelouch could “kill” him with Geass…”
according to these people omnipotence isnt enough to win. so good luck with that thought.
March 28, 2010
#52
next youre gonna tell me that alucard can beat squirrel girl.
March 28, 2010
#53
What part of “Everywhere but nowhere” do you not understand? This means that Alucard is EVERYWHERE. This means hes even part of the omnipotent deity/being you are talking about.
March 28, 2010
#54
“This means hes even part of the omnipotent deity/being you are talking about.”
which he mentioned in post 23 not to be a true immortal as opposed to Alucard who actually is…
July 9, 2010
#55
mmmm..
Quantum Physics fail is fail o.o
July 9, 2010
#56
Micky mouse can solo them both.
July 9, 2010
#57
mmm…yeah…most likely yeah >.<
August 1, 2010
#58
Alucard has gun, Naruto has shuriken. Alucard can define his existence, Naruto can’t…
Yeah, Alucard for the FP award
August 5, 2010
#59
I second the nomination!