Boba Fett Vs William J Johns

Boba Fett Vs William J Johns

Suggested by War Wizard

Here we have Boba Fett (Star Wars) who is being hunted by another bounty hunter with some proven skill in William J Johns (Riddick).

For this fight, only the movie versions of each character are to be used.

The match takes place on Pyrrhus Rise (Killzone) (Opens new Window)

In order to win, the target must be taken alive.

Who would prevail?

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51 Comments on "Boba Fett Vs William J Johns"

  1. Namer September 19, 2013 at 7:59 am -      #1

    And initial bets on Boba Fett. Don’t know anything about Johns at the moment.

  2. itcheyness September 19, 2013 at 8:14 am -      #2

    If Johns showed anything approaching competence in the movie than he ROFLstomps Boba Fett who got killed by a blind guy in his movie.

  3. Amm0vamp1r3 September 19, 2013 at 10:03 am -      #3
  4. Praetor Prefect September 19, 2013 at 10:09 am -      #4

    Fett (EU Fett that is) Movie Fett…I’d go with Itcheyness on this

  5. Xornell September 19, 2013 at 11:54 am -      #5

    Yeah I never understood why Boba Fett even had a fanbase? He’s in 20 minutes of the trilogy, and dies pretty ingloriously. Then again I’m pretty sure William gets killed by a blind dude too lol.
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    Anyway, Riddickverse is sci-fi-ish, isn’t it? I don’t think on the Star Wars level, but something. Initial bets with Boba here, too.

  6. the_man_with The_Answers September 19, 2013 at 11:58 am -      #6

    Wow, reading through the wiki on Johns, and found this:
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    ” causing the ship to crash-land on a planet-like moon designated as M6-117. Johns awoke and ejected himself from his cryotube just as the ship crashed.”
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    117
    John
    Popping out of a cryotube on a crashing ship
    Sound familiar?
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    Anyways, the dude has captured Riddick several times. That’s some major bonus points right there. Then again, he’s addicted to Morphine and doesn’t really have any impressive weapons. I’d say Boba Fett is the winner here.

  7. ZomButcher of Malakir September 19, 2013 at 12:35 pm -      #7

    Boba gets his ass kicked, Johns at least showed a full range of human movement. We can’t prove that Boba is even capable of turning around.

  8. Shgon Dunstan September 19, 2013 at 12:51 pm -      #8

    Movie Fett: Can barely work his own gear without killing himself.
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    EU Fett: Likely just stands there LOLing about William thinking he can actually hurt him.
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    Now SW:TCW Fett on the other hand, for all of being like 11-12, is about midway between those two, in that he can actually “fight” even do so “well” but… He sure isn’t “god-like” about it.
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    William on the other hand……. Meh, he’s not bad, but in a pretty normal “action movie” kind of way.

  9. SgCombine September 19, 2013 at 1:16 pm -      #9

    Movie Fett! still has a firepower advantage and John is likely to run out of ammo quick. It’s been forever since I saw Pitch Black but I remember John’s shotgun having something like 6 or 8 shells in it, and he might have an an extra case with him. On the other hand John could actually hit those flying monsters, Movie Fett! though seemed to have STORMTROOPER! aim.

  10. GuardianAngel1911 September 19, 2013 at 1:27 pm -      #10

    @SgCombine
    you mean he was aiming at the most advanced shields in all of fiction, plot shields. Same reason Deadshot and Bullseye miss, they aim at main characters.
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    That said I do so get annoyed at the idea of limiting Fett’s canon, at least as Shgon said allow preteen to teen Fett..

  11. SgCombine September 19, 2013 at 1:33 pm -      #11

    @GA1911
    I realize that, however I really can’t recall any other shooting feats he has from the movies, so we go with what we have. I agree that it’s stupid but until the OP changes it, we have to use it.

  12. GuardianAngel1911 September 19, 2013 at 1:37 pm -      #12

    @SgCombine
    I know it’s all we have, it’s part of the annoyance, it might as well be a random background stormtrooper that never fired for all the good it would do.
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    Well since War Wizard is Admin if I recall correctly….Admin? Would you be willing to modify it so that at least feats for his junior self are available?

  13. Richard Rider September 19, 2013 at 2:02 pm -      #13

    That Boba Fett pic is badass.

  14. Glutinous-Bicarbonate September 19, 2013 at 2:04 pm -      #14

    Can’t really give a guess on the power of his shotgun, beyond “lethal to the average human” since I don’t recall him actually using it much to get any kills in Pitch Black.

  15. Glutinous-Bicarbonate September 19, 2013 at 2:07 pm -      #15

    *Human kills.

  16. Marcel September 19, 2013 at 2:42 pm -      #16

    Fett’s armour likely repels most of what J.J. can throw at him, and disruptor rifle= disintegration. That said, Fett appears to have a massive long-range advantage. What are J.J’s feats from short range?

  17. GuardianAngel1911 September 19, 2013 at 4:33 pm -      #17

    @Marcel
    welcome back
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    @Richard Rider
    yes it is, makes me sad that the image is on a movie Fett only match.

  18. Marcel September 19, 2013 at 5:13 pm -      #18

    Thx, been super busy but curious what has been for a long time. Just found a day to break away for a moment, lol. Is Fett at a disadvantage from short range?

  19. GuardianAngel1911 September 19, 2013 at 5:15 pm -      #19

    with just movie….he’s technically at a disadvantage from every range just due to no feats whatsoever available.

  20. Praetor Prefect September 19, 2013 at 5:34 pm -      #20

    Well, with Movie!Fett we can assume he is still a formidable enemy known galaxywide for his ruthless methods (“No disintegration”). Other than that he doesn’t really have any feats…

  21. Shgon Dunstan September 19, 2013 at 6:20 pm -      #21

    @Praetor Prefect
    “Other than that he doesn’t really have any feats…”
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    Other then you know, being both slow and clumsy in the use of his gear.

  22. Commander Farsight September 19, 2013 at 7:29 pm -      #22

    So… A guy with some 3 scenes, one of which was a combat scene, vs a somewhat above average human Bounty Hunter?
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    Movie Fett’s feats range from…… Um…..uh…. Yeah. Walking? Having a blaster? That’s about it.

  23. Amm0vamp1r3 September 19, 2013 at 7:31 pm -      #23

    So what Johns wins?

  24. Kara Zor-El September 19, 2013 at 7:39 pm -      #24

    I always think, as good as Boba is in the EU. Just use Jango if you wanna use a Movie version.
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    Not that Jango has that many more feats, but he does beat up on a Jedi and snipe someone, so you know.

  25. Praetor Prefect September 19, 2013 at 9:01 pm -      #25

    Kinda lame match. I agree with Kara, use Jango instead if we’re going with movie incarnations

  26. GuardianAngel1911 September 19, 2013 at 10:16 pm -      #26

    yeah…well looks like today was a bad day for the site in general haven’t seen much traffic.

  27. itcheyness September 19, 2013 at 10:48 pm -      #27

    “yeah…well looks like today was a bad day for the site in general haven’t seen much traffic.”
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    We’ve had a couple of bad matches recently, that usually drives down traffic unless a good one gets resurrected in the meantime.

  28. Tails111 September 20, 2013 at 12:41 am -      #28

    I saw Pitch Black recently, John wasn’t impressive at all.

  29. Shgon Dunstan September 20, 2013 at 12:48 am -      #29

    “I saw Pitch Black recently, John wasn’t impressive at all.”
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    His only real “impressiveness” was catching Riddick, but….. Even Riddick wasn’t yet quite the same Riddick he’d become in the fallowing movies.

  30. Tails111 September 20, 2013 at 12:59 am -      #30

    @Shgon

    I’ve only seen Pitch Black, so I hope that Riddick does indeed become more impressive later. He looked pretty weak in this film.

  31. itcheyness September 20, 2013 at 1:01 am -      #31

    So two rather unimpressive bounty hunters trying to kill each other?
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    Great match…

  32. Tails111 September 20, 2013 at 1:03 am -      #32

    Maybe they’ll manage to kill each other by accident.

  33. itcheyness September 20, 2013 at 1:08 am -      #33

    “Maybe they’ll manage to kill each other by accident.”
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    It’ll be a miracle if they manage not to kill themselves by accident…

  34. the_man_with The_Answers September 20, 2013 at 2:40 am -      #34

    “I’ve only seen Pitch Black, so I hope that Riddick does indeed become more impressive later. He looked pretty weak in this film.”
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    He’s super-badass in the two following movies. Like “Walks into a squad of armored soldiers carrying OHK guns and murderizes them all, almost entirely with knives (He does pick up guns, and unsurprisingly he’s still really good with them). I literally just watched the third movie, and he’s easily borderline super-human. Actually, I take that back. He’s pretty much solidly low-tier super human.
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    For example, 4 or 5 horse tranquilizers didn’t take him all the way down, he can kick someone across a room, he’s got laser-perfect aim to the point where he can kick a falling machete and cut your head in two, and can over-power people with far more muscle mass than him in a sheer strength fashion.
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    Honestly, John Sr. is a better combatant than William.

  35. mack006 September 20, 2013 at 3:44 am -      #35

    HAPPY SCHOOL HOLIDAYS EVERYONE XD!!!

  36. Sauroposeidon September 20, 2013 at 7:19 am -      #36

    What does that even mean?

  37. Sauroposeidon September 20, 2013 at 7:24 am -      #37

    And yes, I agree, Riddick was simply a very accomplished but also very common criminal. Pitch Black was the start of his journey from that to something far greater.
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    Outside of his strength feat, though, he always has been and always will be a man who relies on skill and guile. His precision combined with his use of bluffs makes him a difficult foe even when you out gun him 5 to 1. His knife play is only matched by his mind games. He’s simply gotten better over the years.

  38. GuardianAngel1911 September 20, 2013 at 8:31 am -      #38

    I wonder if this matches set up has any connection to the last time Fett faced someone from Riddickverse, namely Riddick….

  39. PrimusxPilus September 20, 2013 at 12:29 pm -      #39

    Riddick is a beast. Comes with being not only a Furyan (Furian?) But an ALPHA. Strength, endurance, pain tolerance, mildly improved healing factor at least, and temperature range resistance. Haven’t even seen the third one yet. The thing with Riddick is he’s pretty much a genius with an “Act of God” path of devastation localized due to his lack of superpowers. Almost a miniature Vash, if you will. Military training, marksman, pilot, knowledge of many different vehicles/tech/planets, and can mind fuck like a shrink with a sadistic streak. Still IDK because this is about two meh characters

  40. Glutinous-Bicarbonate September 20, 2013 at 12:55 pm -      #40

    What I want to know is Riddick actually got his eyes. In Pitch, he claims he paid a slam surgeon to shine his eyes, while in the Butcher Bay video game, he gets the power from some person that I think was one of the Immortals or Elementals from Chronicles.
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    I don’t know how his canon works, so it’s unclear. Personally I prefer the idea he got his fucking eyes worked on by some grimy quack of a doctor paid with cigarettes in a lightless prison in some awful miserable planet.

  41. Praetor Prefect September 20, 2013 at 1:47 pm -      #41

    @GB, At this point I just wish they’d make a Butcher Bay movie rather than a sequel

  42. PrimusxPilus September 20, 2013 at 2:22 pm -      #42

    The twenty menthol cools operation was retconned. It’s a.Furian ability, specifically ALPHA. Physiology kinda changes…. weird species

  43. Rorschach September 20, 2013 at 10:20 pm -      #43

    “I don’t know how his canon works, so it’s unclear. Personally I prefer the idea he got his fucking eyes worked on by some grimy quack of a doctor paid with cigarettes in a lightless prison in some awful miserable planet.”
    It wasn’t retconned. In The Escape From Butcher Bay game, he gets them from that same immortal Furyan girl, just as he paid that guy twenty menthol cools for an operation.
    Also, as shown in the games, Riddick only every know and then would let Johns catch him, or form a brief truce with him, just to fuck him over in the end. Riddick played with Johns much the same the Joker does with Batman. Also, most times, partnering up with Johns would be Riddick’s best option at the moment. Johns feats not relating to the off chance he may “capture” Riddick are minimal at best. At least, what was shown in the movies.

  44. ReDruM September 20, 2013 at 10:45 pm -      #44

    “It wasn’t retconned. In The Escape From Butcher Bay game, he gets them from that same immortal Furyan girl, just as he paid that guy twenty menthol cools for an operation.
    Also, as shown in the games, Riddick only every know and then would let Johns catch him, or form a brief truce with him, just to fuck him over in the end. Riddick played with Johns much the same the Joker does with Batman. Also, most times, partnering up with Johns would be Riddick’s best option at the moment. Johns feats not relating to the off chance he may “capture” Riddick are minimal at best. At least, what was shown in the movies.”
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    Riddick never got an operation. He was wounded and Pope Joe bandaged him but he never gave him an operation. Remember the character was just some lunatic bum who wanted him to retrieve his radio. Remember even Kira/Jack said that the whole menthol cool for a surgical shine job was bullshit.
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    As for this match Johns loses. Him being able to stand up to Riddick is either pure PIS or Riddick playing with him. If Riddick actually wanted to kill him all those times he wouldn’t have made it to Pitch Black based off Riddick’s displayed abilities. What match needs to be be re-looked at is the Boba Fett vs Riddick match. That was given based off nothing but fanboy nonsense.

  45. CannibalisticCookie September 20, 2013 at 10:57 pm -      #45

    All Kools are menthol. Why would he specify that?

  46. PrimusxPilus September 20, 2013 at 11:03 pm -      #46

    Thanks ReD. Thought I had remembered correctly

  47. DragonRebornSTOMP September 20, 2013 at 11:39 pm -      #47

    I have no idea, and I don’t really care. Though I will say with assurity that Johns’ death was WAY cooler.

  48. DragonRebornSTOMP September 20, 2013 at 11:41 pm -      #48

    ‘who will win’ was supposed to come after ‘idea’ BTW.

  49. Rorschach September 20, 2013 at 11:51 pm -      #49

    @ReDruM
    “Riddick never got an operation. He was wounded and Pope Joe bandaged him but he never gave him an operation. Remember the character was just some lunatic bum who wanted him to retrieve his radio. Remember even Kira/Jack said that the whole menthol cool for a surgical shine job was bullshit.”
    You’re right, my mistake. It’s been a long time since I played the Riddick games.
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    “What match needs to be be re-looked at is the Boba Fett vs Riddick match. That was given based off nothing but fanboy nonsense.”
    This. Especially with Riddick’s new feats in his new movie, Riddick. Yes, there’s the whole canon issue with Boba, but, at this point, I’d still bet on Riddick.

  50. ReDruM September 21, 2013 at 12:01 am -      #50

    “All Kools are menthol. Why would he specify that?”
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    Remember this is far enough into the future that humans have evolved to have strange powers and doesn’t take place on earth. Likely Tobacco and such are difficult to come by. In the movie Pitch Black the art dealer had an expensive brandy imported from earth and he wanted to die in Paris even though he never been there or Earth.

  51. Glutinous-Bicarbonate September 21, 2013 at 12:29 am -      #51

    And I’m sure the Necromonger Crusades were causing all sorts of problems even before Pitch Black, given that’s what caused Riddick to grow up as such a crazy fuck as he is. With the (then) present Marshal wiping out the Furyans and leaving baby Riddick in a trashcan half strangled by his own umbilical cord.

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