Published on August 17, 2013, by admin - Posted in Tag Teams 66
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Superboy Prime and Captain Atom (DC Comics) make their debuts on FactPile against Thanos and Gladiator, both from Marvel.
All characters are at their peak. Thanos does’t have the Infinity Gauntlet.
Morals are off.
Fight begins on Mars.
Which team wins?
Nice to see Gladiator here. Although Superboy Prime. Ugh
Anyways, Gladiator is starbusting physically (Marvel wiki /shrug) and Thanos beat up Silver Surfer with a few hits (so star+ level physical attacks since he can hurt a guy who can tank supernovas) and can tank attacks of a similar magnitude as well as go FTL
Though then again, confidence is an issue with Gladiator
I hate to say it, but I think Capt. Atom and Gladiator are non-factors. The real fight will be between Thanos and Superboy Prime.
I’ll be posting feats for some characters soon.
In this scan, one character explains how Superboy Prime can move whole planets:
In these two scans, Prime beats up Manhunter and Powergirl:
In this scan, Prime manages to blitz THREE Flashes at once:
He also apparently punched his way out of the Phantom Zone (literally), but I can’t find the scans.
Well, I think at his peak Glads is supposed to be akin to pre-Crisis Superman, sooo…Yeah I’d say he could throw down with a poser like SBP.
Hit with a Supernova. Contains a blast that would have wiped out half of our solar system.
Flies down to earth at a hundred times the speed of light
Lands completely unscathed
Now some Gladiator feats:
In this scan, Gladiator enters a star: imageshack.us/photo/my-images/507/starmj3.jpg/
In these scans, he contains a nova-type blast:
Here, he lifts the whole Baxter Building:
Oh, and he can planet bust with just his fists:
His heat vision is apparently hotter than a star: imageshack.us/photo/my-images/123/heatanc5.jpg/
His vision is so good, he can see galaxies away:
In the past, Gladiator has also beat the likes of Hyperion, Nova, Quasar, Silver Surfer, Black Bolt, and others, but getting scans would take too long. And I’m lazy.
Anyway….admittedly, I think I under-estimated Gladiator. He is much stronger than I though.
Now for Thanos feats:
Mentally defeats Moondragon, who was arguably stronger than Xavier at the time:
His energy barrier is shown to be able to block energy blasts from Silver Surfer, who is a planet buster:
Effortlessly stops Thor’s hammer:
He can destroy someone on a molecular level on contact:
His energy shields also block an attack from a Galactus-type being:
Fires an energy blast strong enough to sent Galactus flying, which is probably a first for Galactus:
There are other feats, but once again, I’m too lazy.
NOTE: I’m pretty sure that Thanos doesn’t have the Gauntlet in any of the above scans.
Thanos dodges Silver Surfer while he’s moving hundreds of times FTL, while intentionally limiting himself.
Halts Mjolnir mid-flight. Said hammer is able to move several times faster than light.
A planet-busting explosion caused by his fight with Drax doesn’t seem to phase him at all.
Rats, I think I posted too much links in my posts. Now I have to wait for moderation…
Anyways, I think team 2 might have this.
Gladiator is much more of a boss than I thought, and Thanos needs no introduction. That, and the fact that I can’t find anything too impressive for Captain Atom.
Anyway, here is how I think the match will go.
Prime will battle Gladiator. That fight seems pretty close.
Meanwhile, Thanos beats Captain Atom. After that, Thanos joins Gladiator, and they defeat Superboy Prime. The end.
Or something like that. If worse came to worse, Thanos could just break Prime’s mind, unless Prime is immune to telepathy.
If all Characters are at their peak, wouldn’t that mean the Captain Atom is in his Monarch incarnation? Where when his armor is breached he goes off like a new Big Bang that killed everyone in the Universe he was fighting in, with the exception of Superboy Prime.
Captain Atom took a trip by flying to the edge of the universe
Does Gladiator have any resistance to matter manipulator feats?
Well he is specified as ‘Captain Atom’ for this match. Still, I’d say let Sadot06 decide which version we use.
Pretty much what itcheyness said. Captain Atom solos. Noone here can touch Monarch Atom. Didn’t Superman Prime get his ass kicked by Monarch?
Respect Thread for Monarch Captain Atom: www.killermovies.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-492963-respect-monarch.html
If he’s too powerful, we won’t that incarnation
“Didn’t Superman Prime get his ass kicked by Monarch?”
From what I saw, SBP was the one who overpowered him and ripped his armour open.
“Does Gladiator have any resistance to matter manipulator feats?”
No specific examples, but he has taken on the Silver Surfer and the Phoenix-ified X-Men. They’re both matter manipulators, right?
“Didn’t Superman Prime get his ass kicked by Monarch?”
They stalemated each other, but he was hitting SBP so hard that he was actually damaging himself which, combined with SBP’s strikes, led to his big bang moment.
Not as fast as the flying to the edge of the universe but here he is keeping up wwith flash at superspeeds
Either Team 1 wins, or they both lose.
“They’re both matter manipulators, right?”
Yeah but did they use it on him. I’ve been looking through different incarnations matter/energy manipulation seem to be able to use it in interesting ways.
Turns stuff into feathers
Mess with someone’s Atom
Mess with someone’s powers
That guy in the ftl scan was just an ordinary guy until Cap turned him into someone who could fly that fast.
Well at the time of that scan, he was Super’man’ Prime, so apparently stronger than his usual incarnation now that he was an adult Kryptonian. Again, I’d leave it up to the guy who suggested the match to decide if he’s SBP or SMP.
Honestly, I can’t see team two doing well against Superboy Prime alone. Captain Atom can probably just sleep through this.
Do remember Zom, SBP survived that.
This is Superboy Prime
@Asger, Says Superboy Prime in the title.
As for the match, no particular choice except that I know Prime is horrendously OP. Thinking DC side wins.
Is Thanos still immune to death?
Also is anyone on team 1 to telepathy?
Gladiator was said to have ripped apart a blackhole while he was fighting cyclops
I remember Gladiator appeared on that old X-Men cartoon. He was hideously depowered.
@Sadot at #30
Two fights of yours in a row, not too shabby ehh?
Also what instance of Cykes fighting Gladiator caused that?
Did that happen during AvsX by chance?
Well Glads in his prime tanked Supernovas without a scratch and flew over a hundred times FTL.
Wasn’t it SBP that fought ION powered Sodam Yat?
“Wasn’t it SBP that fought ION powered Sodam Yat?”
Did he? Then again he was in that Sinestro Corps business. He did throw that heavily-pussified version of Anti-Monitor.
Without the Infinity Gauntlet, Team 2 gets shitstomped. Even with the IG, it’s still a tough call.
Emoboy Prime solos them both effortlessly. Shattered the universe on more than one occasion with his fists, took on two Pre-Crisis Supermen simultaneously, ION, and IIRC killed Sinetro Corps Anti-Monitor. Has universe+ durability. The one weakness he has is his mental instability.
Monarch solos too, though if it’s just Captain Atom it may be a different story.
Gladiator is (and I’m going to get rage for this) a Superman knock-off, of which there are dozens. Sure he throws a few decent feats out, but nothing Supes hasn’t done before. The second he realizes his punches aren’t doing anything to Team 1, he becomes useless.
Thanos is a fairly large threat, but without the IG he’s not a gamechanger to Team 1.
Soon comes down to SBP and CA against Thanos, and he’s rapidly overcome.
Pretty much what Xornell said.
Well lets be honest, any incarnation of Anti-Monitor outside of COIE could be knocked out by a stiff breeze. He’s kind of a pansy compared to the guy who scarfed a hundred universes for breakfast.
As for fighting two other Supermen..Were they really at Silver Age levels of power? fast enough to cross the entire multiverse in minutes and strong enough to juggle solar systems?
Alot of peeps say SBP is suppsoed to be as strong as PC Superman, but I got my doubts…
There is a difference between Superboy Prime and Superman Prime. Their feats often get mixed up. Superboy Prime isn’t as strong as he is later on, so for instance it’s not him that has the universe durability.
“Well lets be honest, any incarnation of Anti-Monitor outside of COIE could be knocked out by a stiff breeze. He’s kind of a pansy compared to the guy who scarfed a hundred universes for breakfast.”
Sure, that’s a given. But he’s not really what I’d call a pushover.
“As for fighting two other Supermen..Were they really at Silver Age levels of power? fast enough to cross the entire multiverse in minutes and strong enough to juggle solar systems?”
They weren’t only Silver Age levels, it was the actual Silver and Golden Age Supermen of Earth 1 and Earth 2 IIRC. Someone probably has those scans lying around.
“Alot of peeps say SBP is suppsoed to be as strong as PC Superman, but I got my doubts…”
He’s lacking in feats, but it’s the same thing with Prime 1 million. You just kinda assume they’re better.
“There is a difference between Superboy Prime and Superman Prime. Their feats often get mixed up. Superboy Prime isn’t as strong as he is later on, so for instance it’s not him that has the universe durability.”
Very true, but I was unaware at the time of posting that “Superman Prime” wasn’t being used. I figured at peak power meant the characters at the height of their power throughout their entirety.
In any case, most of the feats there were by SBP, and he could probably tank universe busting as well, seeing as it did nothing to him while older. As neither Thanos nor Gladiator are throwing around universe busters, I don’t think it matters lol.
SBP also took on the Black Lantern Corps and one-shotted 300 miles of consecutive GL willpower construct.
If I recall correctly. Captain Atom has beaten super man to a stand-still before. ( One of the Justice League cartoons LOL but its something I suppose )
Captain Atom’s control over molecules and radiation could create many interesting scenarios. He could blast you with radiation until your genes go inside-out, or he could accelerate the death process in cells and make you age pre-maturely.
All guesswork admittedly, just using the effects of radiation that Cpt Atom uses.
Justice League isn’t canon
Though Team DC likely still wins regardless
Would it help if Thanos got the Infinity Gauntlet?
If he did it’d be a rape thread the other way ’round since he was unstoppable to anyone below LT levels
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“Captain Atom’s control over molecules and radiation could create many interesting scenarios. He could blast you with radiation until your genes go inside-out, or he could accelerate the death process in cells and make you age pre-maturely.”
Very true. But Superman has resisted matter manipulation before, and even low-level reality warping. Captain Atom can produce Kryptonite radiation, though.
“If he did it’d be a rape thread the other way ’round since he was unstoppable to anyone below LT levels”
I’m not so sure about that. The IG made him fairly unstoppable in one universe, though he never went against a cosmic with it on, did he? Basically, it’s a “universal” weapon, and I’d still take a chance and say SPB’s OP-ness pulls through.
Heart of the Universe? That’s a different story.
Besides, Mr. Mxy is also fairly “omnipotent” and he got stomped by SBP.
So we need more feats for Thanos then. It’s established that Captain Atom isn’t Monarch incarnation, otherwise he’d stomp.
“I’m not so sure about that. The IG made him fairly unstoppable in one universe, though he never went against a cosmic with it on, did he?”
To be honest I’m just going off older threads here and other forums like KMC and OBD. Comics aren’t exactly my expertise
“Heart of the Universe? That’s a different story.”
“Besides, Mr. Mxy is also fairly “omnipotent” and he got stomped by SBP”
To be fair, he’s not really omnipotent. Besides omnipotence has been used wrongly so many times in fiction anyways so, yeah
@The hero of Anime
You’re right, that has wholly changed myopinion on this match, team 1 does win.
“To be fair, he’s not really omnipotent. Besides omnipotence has been used wrongly so many times in fiction anyways so, yeah”
Yeah lol that’s why I used fairly. There are more powerful beings in DC continuity, but he’s pretty high on the “do whatever the fuck you want” ladder lol.
“Omnipotent” was a bad choice of words on my part lol.
So, what is the heart of the universe exactly? I know roughly what the IG can do, but what does the HOTU entail? And wouldn’t Thanos have it for this fight if its most powerful incarnation?
Basically it makes you as powerful as TOAA. With it Thanos solo’d his home verse
If he didn’t allow the IG, why would he allow that?
““Omnipotent” was a bad choice of words on my part lol.”
Eh, thats okay then, lol
“So, what is the heart of the universe exactly? I know roughly what the IG can do, but what does the HOTU entail? And wouldn’t Thanos have it for this fight if its most powerful incarnation?”
He bolostomped everything all the way up to LT, which gave him minor resistance. I think he got bored and put everything back the way it was, though don’t hold me to that because I barely follow Marvel.
So Superboy prime, excluding the feats when he’s older is still too strong for Thanos?
Most likely yeah
He soloed Lanterns, moved planets, and punched is way out of the phantom zone. What else?
I don’t know Thanos as well apart from how easily he pwned the Silver Surfer who was ruled above post crisis Superman on this site.
Silver Surfer is weak compared to Pre-Crisis Supes though. Let alone Superboy/man Prime
Yeah, and Thanos made him his bitch, hence why I assumed Thanos would stand a fighting chance against Superboy Prime.
“Yeah, and Thanos made him his bitch”
I know that
“hence why I assumed Thanos would stand a fighting chance against Superboy Prime.”
Not really since he bitchslapped a being massively inferior to SBP. Which doesn’t remotely imply he can compete with a being above that. Given, you can’t really quantify the power gap between Thanos and Surfer anyways, so yeah
Okay I’ve been reading up on Prime. If we stick to him prior to the Sinestro Corps war, he shouldn’t be able to steamroll Thanos and Gladiator.
But wouldn’t that go against the condition that SbP is at his peak?
Pretty much. Besides, it’s past 50 comments anyways, so it can’t be changed short of mod ruling
That and, the match kinda sucks if you have to edit it constantly to make it fair
Yeah crippling characters is never good precedent in a match lol.
I enjoyed it, though.
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