Magneto Vs Darth Vader

Magneto Vs Darth Vader

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For months, my friends and family and I have argued over this. Yelled. Insulted. Slammed things. This is a hotly debated topic among us:

Who would win? Magneto (Marvel) or Darth Vader (Star Wars) (post-RotS)?

Both are at full power (but Darth is still post-Mustafar).

The arena is the Imperial City Arena from Oblivion. No prep time. No knowledge of the enemy.

WHO FREAKING WINS?

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289 Comments on "Magneto Vs Darth Vader"

  1. StealthRanger August 12, 2013 at 8:43 am -      #1

    There is no such thing as a Star Wars character that could beat Magneto 1v1
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    You could make it Vader and Palpatine (possibly Luke too) vs Magneto and Magneto would still win
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    Stomp

  2. Asger August 12, 2013 at 8:48 am -      #2

    Isn’t…isn’t 75% of Annie’s body made of metal? Seems like…kind of an easy thing for Erik to exploit.

  3. Commander Cross August 12, 2013 at 8:50 am -      #3

    ‘No Wai, Dis iz a Kool Fight, Wai No Won Suhjested ut yut?’

    This is the most likely verdict behind the match existing.
    Either that or its something else going on.
    Either way I feel sorry for the Arena at work.

  4. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 8:50 am -      #4

    Actually Sidious, and Luke could. Vader however, well, there is metal in that suit. Magneto will puppetmaster him. Unless Vader breaks his neck right off the bat with the force, he is screwed.

  5. StealthRanger August 12, 2013 at 8:51 am -      #5

    Even w/o that Magneto could just atomise him by making his atoms repel from eachother or just tear the iron out of his blood. Plus Vader couldn’t breach his shield that can tank hits from herald tier beings
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    And Magneto has relativistic reactions or so so, he moves first

  6. Hermit August 12, 2013 at 8:54 am -      #6

    Cool.
    Question to ask:
    How far away are they from each other? (If Magneto is within five feet of Vader, the Sith could just turn on his lightsaber and the thing will stab Magneto instantly)
    .
    Would it be in Vader’s nature to start off with a Force Choke?

  7. Commander Cross August 12, 2013 at 8:54 am -      #7

    Well just in case:

    Are we using Regular-616 Mags in here, or are we using Marvel Movie-verse!-Mags?
    Yes it does make a difference, as while both are formidable and lethal, the former is more so than the latter.

  8. Amm0vamp1r3 August 12, 2013 at 8:54 am -      #8

    Looks like a good fight

  9. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 9:01 am -      #10

    Magneto almost never uses those tactics though Stealth. He would still win this pretty handily though. On the other hand, force choking is Vader’s signature, has Magneto ever used used his powers whilst being strangled?

  10. Hermit August 12, 2013 at 9:01 am -      #11

    The Commander has a point.
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    How about we use Movie Magneto (that’s still in peak power)?

  11. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 9:05 am -      #12

    Also, Magneto’s relativistic reflexes didn’t help him against Hawkeye’s wooden arrow. (Might be awhle before I find the scan, I have no clue what comic it was even in)

  12. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 9:15 am -      #13

    That shield is also not very common for him, more than the other tactics mentioned, but still. Iron Man’s last fight with him that I read, they were just trading punches, no shield, no manipulating the iron in Tony, or repelling his atoms, just punching.

  13. Shadow-Knight August 12, 2013 at 9:16 am -      #14

    My inner fanboy is screaming Vader;however, my head is telling me Magneto. Hummmmmm, I think I’ll just lurk around and see how this plays out.

  14. jackn8r August 12, 2013 at 9:21 am -      #15

    Those are really good pictures.

  15. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 9:27 am -      #16
  16. General Joshua Hundell of the Trans-Dimentional Fleet August 12, 2013 at 9:47 am -      #17

    mags rips vaders breathing unit out of his chest, then vader suffocates.

  17. Shadow-Knight August 12, 2013 at 9:48 am -      #18
  18. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 9:53 am -      #19

    They have no knoledge of their opponent, he won’t know about the breathing unit.
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    As for what Shadow-Knight said, Colossus is literally 100% metal, and he pummeled Magneto.

  19. The Geek Lord August 12, 2013 at 9:57 am -      #20

    There are so many ways Magneto could end this without even breaking a sweat that it’s hilarious.
    Were he feeling brutal, he could simply crush Vader like a tin can.
    He could puppet master him and slam him into stuff until he just stopped moving.
    He could snatch his own lightsaber from him and impale him on it.
    I mean really if this battle comes down to anything it’s the power of magnetism versus the Force. If Vader knew about Magneto before the fight, he’d probably be eager to try to break his neck with the Force and spare himself a fight. But with no prior knowledge, he’s walking into his death.

  20. The Geek Lord August 12, 2013 at 10:01 am -      #21

    @ZomBraves
    That’s because he’s organic metal, and Magnus can’t manipulate that. Vader is not organic, that’s all manufactured. He’s f*cked, bro.
    ——
    Also I always thought Vader and Doctor Doom were similar, but Magneto and Vader are even MORE similar! They both have twin children with exceptional powers and they both have old friends that became enemies (Xavier and Obi-Wan).

  21. The Geek Lord August 12, 2013 at 10:04 am -      #22

    @Commander
    I daresay we’re using the 616 version.

  22. Sauroposeidon August 12, 2013 at 10:08 am -      #23

    Magneto probably goes down hard. I don’t see his magnetism over whelming the force..
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    As a comic book villain, Magneto has made a CAREER out of losing..
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    Vader does almost nothing BUT win, with only two major losses I can think of. Once against Obi, at the height of his hubris, and once against his own Son in Return of the Jedi.. although I’m sure he lost in that shitty Force Unleashed game too, he probably has some impressive feats in the game as well.
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    So, again, I’m leaning towards vader.

  23. Nomad August 12, 2013 at 10:08 am -      #24

    “That’s because he’s organic metal, and Magnus can’t manipulate that.”
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    Magneto has thrown Colossus before using magnetic manipulation. Happened in AvX and I’m sure it has happened many other times.

  24. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 10:09 am -      #25

    Geek Lord, you realize that even prior to that scan Magneto had puppetmastered Colossus right? It shows that if he is being kept off-guard by constant pain(like a force choke) he can’t manpulate shit.

  25. Nomad August 12, 2013 at 10:15 am -      #26

    “As a comic book villain, Magneto has made a CAREER out of losing..”
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    That tends to be the plot induced role of a comic book villain.

  26. Nomad August 12, 2013 at 10:18 am -      #27

    Here is what I guess Stealth was talking about earlier, Magneto rips Wolverine’s adamatium skeleton out on a molecular level.
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    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/126357/2420093-rip.jpg

  27. Watchdog Lowk August 12, 2013 at 10:19 am -      #28

    “Even w/o that Magneto could just atomise him by making his atoms repel from eachother”
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    Has Mags ever done that?
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    “Iron Man’s last fight with him that I read, they were just trading punches, no shield, no manipulating the iron in Tony, or repelling his atoms, just punching.”
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    Ironman had a non-metal suit, that can manipulate magnetism, and had shown in the battles beforehand to have anti-magnetism safeguards.

  28. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 10:26 am -      #29

    Colossus didn’t. It isn’t like that is the only time an opponent with metl has hurt him either. Mags overconfidence is his downfall, and will be here. Vader jus force chokes people, it is like how he shakes hands, an he will do so here.

  29. Nomad August 12, 2013 at 10:37 am -      #30

    “Colossus didn’t. ”
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    Apparently in that scan Magneto was weakened before hand. Trying to find the issue.
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    Also you’re neglecting to mention the fact that Magneto is taking on a full team of X-Men. In this match he is only facing Darth Vader.

  30. Tarbel August 12, 2013 at 10:40 am -      #31

    If it were that easy to flup with Vader’s suit, you would think every force user would try and do just that. But no, they don’t.
    I reckon Vader’s force powers can hold his body in tact against Magneto’s powers, just as he does against force users in the SW verse.
    Question is, who’s controlling powers are stronger? I’ve heard Magneto has lifted a 30,000 ton nuclear submarine.
    On the otherhand, I believe Darth Vader’s force powers is akin to Starkiller’s who has ripped a SW ship out of the sky.

  31. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 10:41 am -      #32

    Good point, I mean it isn’t like Wolverine regularly fights Magneto. Oh wait…
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    img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/SaintSaturn/wolverine185.jpg

  32. Amm0vamp1r3 August 12, 2013 at 10:45 am -      #33

    Isn’t he only cocky against people he knows?

  33. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 10:49 am -      #34

    He is cocky against people he knows can beat him even.

  34. Tarbel August 12, 2013 at 10:50 am -      #35

    I also reckon while Vader’s force powers are strong enough to negate Magneto’s attempts to destroy his life support, Vader would still lose enough concentration to not be able to properly force choke or overall mess with Magneto’s insides as he would normally do.
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    Of course, these are merely hunches, and should at most be used as a second scenario to determine the most likely winner.
    First scenario, if attacking internally works, who wins.
    Second scenario, attacking internally is negated, thus more outward physical fighting is required (which makes a more interesting match as well in my opinion).

  35. Nomad August 12, 2013 at 10:50 am -      #36

    “He is cocky against people he knows can beat him even.”
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    As you already said, they have no knowledge of each other in the scenario. So why would he show hubris against an opponent he has no knowledge of?

  36. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 10:55 am -      #37

    Because Magneto is always cocky, every single fucking appearance starts with a speech about his superiority. It is his M.O.

  37. Nomad August 12, 2013 at 10:55 am -      #38

    “Good point, I mean it isn’t like Wolverine regularly fights Magneto. Oh wait…
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    img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/SaintSaturn/wolverine185.jpg”
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    Once more:
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    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/126357/2420093-rip.jpg

  38. Nomad August 12, 2013 at 10:57 am -      #39

    “Because Magneto is always cocky, every single fucking appearance starts with a speech about his superiority. It is his M.O.”
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    I know you’re just arguing to try to make this match FP worthy but that’s ridiculous.

  39. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 10:59 am -      #40

    @Tarbel
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    Except, Vader throws out Force chokes like they’re going out of style. As my previous scan showed, as long as Magneto isn’t allowed a moment of peace, he can’t use his powers. So, if he is being choked, he will just die.

  40. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 11:01 am -      #41

    Yeah, he ripped out Wolverine’s metal once, after a long drawn out fight, so? This won’t be a long drawn out fight, it will be Magneto choking to death.

  41. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 11:05 am -      #42

    It isn’t ridiculous, it is fact. You can’t say he is going to act out of character for this match. Magneto is an arrogant elitist prick that isn’t going to change because he is fighting an asthmatic in a suit with a laser sword.

  42. Shadow-Knight August 12, 2013 at 11:07 am -      #43

    Well, if Magneto is prone to monologuing before a fight, then this is a very possible fate.

  43. Kara Zor-El August 12, 2013 at 11:07 am -      #44

    “It isn’t ridiculous, it is fact. You can’t say he is going to act out of character for this match. Magneto is an arrogant elitist prick that isn’t going to change because he is fighting an asthmatic in a suit with a laser sword.”
    _
    Oh right, because Annie isn’t an arrogant elitist prick right? Oh wait…

  44. Nomad August 12, 2013 at 11:08 am -      #45

    Even if you’re grasping straws with that argument, it isn’t like he can’t multi-task:
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    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/59221/2031015-486287_magneto87.jpg

  45. Shadow-Knight August 12, 2013 at 11:09 am -      #46

    And that was him choking an Admiral on a completely different Star Destroyer.

  46. Tarbel August 12, 2013 at 11:12 am -      #47

    I’m pretty sure Magneto, despite being an old man, is peak human at the very least when not augmenting his abilities with his electromagnetism.
    If Vader is merely going to choke him, it’ll take longer than 10 seconds to do so, which is plenty of time for Magneto to understand what’s going on an mess with Vader’s insides as well.

  47. Nomad August 12, 2013 at 11:12 am -      #48

    Would an electromagnetic pulse effect Vader’s suit?

  48. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 11:15 am -      #49

    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/11352/486285-maggoesh2hwithcolossus9xs.jpg
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    Even if they both start with a telekinetic-like attack, Magneto can’t stop Vader from choking him.

  49. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 11:20 am -      #50

    Annie is a prick, but he doesn’t fuck around. He chokes a muthafucka.
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    @Tarbel
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    Th scan clearly shows Mgneto needs a moment of not being attacked to usehis powers.
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    @Cap
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    That was just throwing multiple things at once. Not really multitasking, not that multitasking would help him.

  50. Nomad August 12, 2013 at 11:24 am -      #51

    “That was just throwing multiple things at once. Not really multitasking, not that multitasking would help him.”
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    I meant the fact that he says he is mutant supreme and came seeking aid. So if for whatever inane reason he decides to start reciting, “I Have a Dream” to Vader he is still capable and willing to restrain him.

  51. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 11:29 am -      #52

    Except he won’t be able to restrain him while he is being choked. At first maybe, but one th choe starts, and breaks his focus, we’ll have a Colossus situation. Force Chokes are constant. No “Moments of peace”.

  52. worrior091 August 12, 2013 at 11:30 am -      #53

    if neither character new anything about the other this wouldn’t be a fight. it would be two villans conversing about possible ways of returning to their own worlds. assuming that they know they are in a fight to the death, you need to think about what their preferences are. magneto is a planner, he would do his best to evaluate the situation while avoiding direct combat. he is used to utterly overpowering his enemies with his uncanny control over metal so we can assume he would start out with his usual arrogance. darth on the other hand has been known as a radicalist since even before he was a sith. if he knew it was a fight to the death his impulsive nature would force him to come out swinging with ferocity and skill. this would take HIS arrogance out of the picture because he would be focused on defeating the enemy ASAP. when taking their unique abilities into account, which is stronger? influence of a magnetic field or influence over the very fabric of the universe? I would give vader the upper hand in this because, while magneto has a great deal of influence over metal, so does vader. doesn’t that mean that magneto no longer has an advantage or an effective weapon?

  53. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 11:31 am -      #54

    Forgive my grammmar/spelling mistakes, I am posting from a PSVita.

  54. Watchdog Lowk August 12, 2013 at 11:38 am -      #55

    “Because Magneto is always cocky, every single fucking appearance starts with a speech about his superiority. It is his M.O.”
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    Is he still like that since he dropped the villian thing? Doesn’t seem to have the same time to fuck around since the Phoenix caused a drop in his power levels. He just seems to fight normal now without the long winded speeches
    i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag110/BFW2013/Comics/UXM/a14.jpg

  55. worrior091 August 12, 2013 at 11:40 am -      #56

    @watchdog
    THEY ARE BOTH FULL POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  56. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 11:41 am -      #57

    Phoenix dropped his power? I am so behind on comics.

  57. Nomad August 12, 2013 at 11:41 am -      #58

    “static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/11352/486285-maggoesh2hwithcolossus9xs.jpg
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    Even if they both start with a telekinetic-like attack, Magneto can’t stop Vader from choking him.”
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    Also where are you getting the concentration thing from? The thought bubble is clearly coming out of Colossus head not Magneto.

  58. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 11:42 am -      #59

    It does say full power…

  59. Tarbel August 12, 2013 at 11:42 am -      #60

    img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/SaintSaturn/wolverine185.jpg
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    If you’re talking about that, then I would say getting 3 10 inch knives stab into your abdomen through and through is not the same as getting your windpipe crushed.
    First, the pain factor. Second, the trauma. (I don’t have to explain do I?)
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    Also, I see one scan of Magneto getting stabbed, what happens after? He quickly repels Wolverine and they have a long drawn out battle where Magneto wins? Or he just dies?
    Not to mention I don’t know what happened beforehand.
    So I doubt this one instance is a clear showing that Magneto can not use his powers when getting hurt.
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    Also, I’m pretty sure Magneto has a rather impressive reaction time, and will be able to do something against his windpipes constricting before he passes out or something.
    And it’s not like we see Vader force choking enemies and they all fall down instantly.

  60. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 11:45 am -      #61

    @Tarbel
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    The other two scans I posted mate.
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    @Cap
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    Yeah, it is Colossus’ strategy, and it is quite obviously working.

  61. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 11:48 am -      #62

    Just so youknow the two scans are from the same fight, proving the viability of the strategy. Colossus was able to keep him from using his powers just by hitting him repeatedly.

  62. Tarbel August 12, 2013 at 11:48 am -      #63

    Ah, you were talking about this:
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/11352/486285-maggoesh2hwithcolossus9xs.jpg
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    Getting pounded by a 100 ton strength level mutant is also different than getting force choked.
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    Magneto has to concentrate his powers on amping his durability and strength.

  63. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 11:53 am -      #64

    Except Colossus is a slow as fuck(by mutant standards) mutant. There should have also been ample time between punches.

  64. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 11:57 am -      #65

    As well, if he were able to usehis powers to buff his durability and strength, nothing would be stopping him from usig them to control Colossus. More likely he wasn’t using his powers at all. Colossus isn’t about to murder the guy.

  65. Watchdog Lowk August 12, 2013 at 12:15 pm -      #66

    Okay so this feats kind of long. I think this should count as pain tolerance feat while using his powers. basically he’s in pain while still pulling a bullet from deep space
    i188.photobucket.com/albums/z259/almightykfish/MagnetoBullet0.jpg
    i188.photobucket.com/albums/z259/almightykfish/MagnetoBullet1.jpg
    i188.photobucket.com/albums/z259/almightykfish/MagnetoBullet2.jpg
    i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/mags1.jpg

  66. Xornell August 12, 2013 at 12:17 pm -      #67

    Wanna say Magneto right off the bat, though I will say other characters would stand a better chance, Vader’s slow and mostly robotic (though whether it’s magnetic is up for debate.
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    Yes, Magneto has the blood iron thingy, but how many times has he really used that? Twice?
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    Maybe if DV could choke him out or crush his innards with the Force he could win, but I think Magento would be faster than Vader’s crippled robot ass.

  67. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 12:24 pm -      #71

    He may be in pain, but that is very different from being acively harmed.
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    Plus, Vader can add lightning to it, or just pull Magneto onto his lightsaber.

  68. Dassadec August 12, 2013 at 12:30 pm -      #74

    This is a stomp, Magneto crushes Vader into a neat metal ball and continues on his day

  69. Richard Rider August 12, 2013 at 12:32 pm -      #75

    Magneto Feats-
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    Magneto has better control over lightning than Storm.
    imageshack.us/a/img198/4638/magbettercontroloflightingthen.jpg
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    Magneto can control electricity.
    img391.imageshack.us/img391/9544/magtakesoversystem3vv.jpg
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    Magneto’s shield can tank nukes.
    img484.imageshack.us/img484/3455/magtakesamegatonbomb9cn.jpg
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    Magneto is able to affect stuff on a molecular level.
    img451.imageshack.us/img451/2610/magtakesonplasticandceramic7lu.jpg

  70. Richard Rider August 12, 2013 at 12:34 pm -      #76
  71. Watchdog Lowk August 12, 2013 at 12:35 pm -      #77
  72. Tarbel August 12, 2013 at 12:48 pm -      #78

    “Plus, Vader can add lightning to it”
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    No he can’t >.>
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    Force choke is a very slow to kill. I’m pretty sure Magneto has much better speed feats since that old comic scan, but I don’t know him well enough to say so.
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    A better tactic for Darth Vader is to just crush his heart or flick an important vein/capillary or nerve in Magneto’s brain and cause a stroke, etc.

  73. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 12:50 pm -      #79

    I thought Proteus was trying to getin Mags head, not crush it. Blindfold has never shown the strength to achieve that anyways, and also, having your head crushed feels more like pressure than pain, certainly not comparable to being choked.

  74. ZomBraves Are Doing Well This Year. August 12, 2013 at 12:58 pm -      #80

    It is a misconception that Vader hasn’t used lightning since getting his suit. He has, but he was amped. (Possibly ‘Full Power’)

  75. Watchdog Lowk August 12, 2013 at 1:03 pm -      #81

    “I thought Proteus was trying to getin Mags head, not crush it. Blindfold has never shown the strength to achieve that anyways, and also, having your head crushed feels more like pressure than pain, certainly not comparable to being choked.”
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    My bad it looked like his helmet was destroyed. Still he’s operating under a condition of being hurt and still managed to exert his power.
    What about the vs Jean scan?
    Also how is being choked a big hindrance when even regular people are still able to struggle when it happens? Mag seems to be able to take hit from superhumans even unshield and survives them.
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    “Force choke is a very slow to kill. I’m pretty sure Magneto has much better speed feats since that old comic scan, but I don’t know him well enough to say so.”
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    Found a two
    stops a bullet
    i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/MagnetoBulletStop.jpg
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    tags quicksilver
    i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/MagnetoQuicksilver1-1.jpg
    i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/MagnetoQuicksilver2-1.jpg

  76. Tarbel August 12, 2013 at 1:06 pm -      #82

    Mute point then. Since he can’t use it now >.>

  77. Tarbel August 12, 2013 at 1:06 pm -      #83

    lol. mute XD

  78. Overpowered August 12, 2013 at 1:21 pm -      #84

    While I myself am on Magneto’s side, I will transfer what my friends have argued with me:

    “Vader can just make a force barrier around himself and choke Magneto.”

    “Vader can locate a nerve in Magneto’s brain and pinch it to kill him in a second.”

    “Vader can use Force lightning and reverse the polarity of magnetism around the area making Magneto useless.”

    “Vader can hold himself together with the Force and choke out Magneto.”

    “Vader is faster and stronger than Magneto and will kill him before he reacts.”

    “Vader is immune to telekinetic attacks and can easily repel anything Magneto throws at him.”

    That’s just some of what they say.

  79. Tarbel August 12, 2013 at 1:26 pm -      #85

    BTW I say that after having read this:
    “There was, however, one case where Vader did use Force lightning properly. When Vader was in close proximity to the presence of the Kaiburr crystal on Circarpous V, the amplification effects of the Force caused his affinity with the dark side to expand. As a result, Vader was able to utilize it’s full power, a feat normally impossible for him.”

  80. Shadow-Knight August 12, 2013 at 2:04 pm -      #86

    @Xornell
    I would like to point out that Vader is not as slow and cripple as one might think. He has been hunting and killing full able bodied jedi for years Luke came along, and all the fights in the move were results of Vader toying with Old Obi-wan, Vader trying to convert/not kill Luke at cloud city, and Vader, on orders from the emperor, letting Luke kick his ass in RoJ to get Luke to give in to his anger and the darkside. Three movies, three instances of Vader holding back.
    ================

    TO every one who thinks Vader can use lightning, yes he could; however, it would also damage his own electronic systems causing them to over lode like the Emperor’s lightning did in RoJ.

  81. Soldier's Shadow August 12, 2013 at 2:04 pm -      #87

    img371.imageshack.us/img371/5716/magelectromagneticjamspsionics.jpg

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    Mags is jamming the power of several psionics right here. Might that apply to Vader’s force powers?

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    Magneto’s cocky, but he has decided to flex his power before to daunt his opponents. And by flex, I mean tearing open the Earth to release a volcano. Volcanoes and Vader don’t exactly mesh well.

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    Considering Mags is also vastly faster, and not as douchey as before as Lowk posted, what’s really stopping him from hoisting Vader off the ground and smashing him into something until his brain leaks out?

  82. Shadow-Knight August 12, 2013 at 2:06 pm -      #88

    *years (before) luke came along.

  83. Shadow-Knight August 12, 2013 at 2:12 pm -      #89

    “Mags is jamming the power of several psionics right here. Might that apply to Vader’s force powers?”

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    Not necessarily, the force is more like a life energy that connects the user to the entire galaxy. One of my favorite descriptions of the force is from KotOR 2 ” Imagine the Force is a river that branches out and carries the user to every thing it touches.

  84. Soldier's Shadow August 12, 2013 at 2:22 pm -      #90

    “I would like to point out that Vader is not as slow and cripple as one might think. He has been hunting and killing full able bodied jedi for years Luke came along”

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    He isn’t slow overall but he is not to be compared to Magneto in the speed department. Mags travels through space effortlessly within his shield and has reacted to missiles, bullets, and speedsters like Quicksilver and even Thor in one scan.

  85. Xornell August 12, 2013 at 2:25 pm -      #91

    “I would like to point out that Vader is not as slow and cripple as one might think. He has been hunting and killing full able bodied jedi for years Luke came along”
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    Meh, he killed faceless, nameless Jedi. He couldn’t even beat Galen Marek without using douchebaggery.
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    “and all the fights in the move were results of Vader toying with Old Obi-wan”
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    Perhaps, but Obi-Wan was an old-ass cripple in his own right. I could probably mess him up in a duel.
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    “Vader trying to convert/not kill Luke at cloud city,”
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    True, but this was also the what? Second time Luke ever held a lightsaber?
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    “and Vader, on orders from the emperor, letting Luke kick his ass in RoJ to get Luke to give in to his anger and the darkside.”
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    I don’t think that happened. Palps was trying to convert Luke, but Vader also wanted him converted so they could overthrow Palps together. When it became apparent that Luke wasn’t having any of the Dark Side, Palps ordered Vader to kill him, which was where he got his ass handed to him.
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    Anyway, like someone else said, the only way for DV to have a chance is to Force crush Magneto’s heart/brain or something before he gets roflpwned.
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    And Mag’s shields wouldn’t do much here. Since the Force is everywhere, all Vader would have to do is manipulate it. Unless there are scans of Magneto blocking this sort of thing with his autoshields.

  86. Soldier's Shadow August 12, 2013 at 2:30 pm -      #92

    ” And Mag’s shields wouldn’t do much here. Since the Force is everywhere, all Vader would have to do is manipulate it. Unless there are scans of Magneto blocking this sort of thing with his autoshields.”
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    img299.imageshack.us/img299/2509/tbreakthroughhispsychicdefense.jpg

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    The most I could find of Magneto defending against an invisible attack like that with his shields. It took Xavier and Jean’s psychic powers to break it though he had to be distracted from doing anything to stop them.

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    But apparently psychic =/= Force.

  87. Nomad August 12, 2013 at 2:35 pm -      #93

    “Yeah, it is Colossus’ strategy, and it is quite obviously working.”
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    Except once again your neglecting to realize Magneto isn’t just derping around with Colossus he is dealing with a whole team of X-Men.
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    “jst so youknow the two scans are from the same fight, proving the viability of the strategy. Colossus was able to keep him from using his powers just by hitting him repeatedly.”
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    I only saw the one scan. The next page had Beast throw Nightcrawler at Magnus to take his helmet off. Colossus then punched him in the head, which he survived.
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    “Except Colossus is a slow as fuck(by mutant standards) mutant. There should have also been ample time between punches.”
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    Even if he is slow, Magneto still has to keep track off everyone else.
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    “It is a misconception that Vader hasn’t used lightning since getting his suit. He has, but he was amped. (Possibly ‘Full Power’)”
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    It wouldn’t be a factor for Magneto as he has been shown to redirect Storm’s lightning before:
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    imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/magbettercontroloflightingthen.jpg/

  88. Shadow-Knight August 12, 2013 at 2:52 pm -      #94

    ” Galen Marek without using douchebaggery.”

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    Galen Marek was a special case, he was able bodied and brought an extremely savage fighting style to the table and combined it with various force powers, like charging his light saber(s) up with lightning so that it dispersed on the next swing.

  89. Commander Cross August 12, 2013 at 2:55 pm -      #95

    @Shadow-Knight at #94

    Never neglect that Vader Trained Galen with Training from Hell 101, ever since he was a child.

    @Everyone else

    Why we didn’t consider Movie!-Mags, I’ll never know. T_T

  90. Rorschach August 12, 2013 at 2:55 pm -      #96

    Well, look at that?
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    I’d participate in the debate, but I see ample support for both sides here.
    I originally thought that this would be a case of who’s reaction time is faster. That would determine it for me. Magneto could crush Vader, or Vader could force choke Magneto.
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    I’ll keep watching to see how this turns out. I am surprised though, I didn’t know Magneto’s shield survived a nuke.
    At the same time, I’m stuck on Darth Vader, and how his mastery of the force would deal with him, and how the shield would fare against the force.

  91. Commander Cross August 12, 2013 at 3:02 pm -      #97

    @Grand General Rorschach at #96

    Well at least no matter which of the two versions I mentioned on Mags we should be asking about, this match has that much going for it.
    (Along with Badassitude-worthy imagery!)

  92. Soldier's Shadow August 12, 2013 at 3:07 pm -      #98

    Nomad brings up a strong point. Magneto is almost never taken down by a lone opponent. It takes a huge team effort from the X-Men to beat him and that usually plays on his weakness being a lack of concentration that diminishes his powers.

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    He is only facing Vader here and he has no connection to him for him to gloat about the superiority of mutant kind, no bald paraplegic that he has bad blood with guiding Vader, and no one else around to really disrupt him.

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    Mags is faster so he should be quick to just explode Vader or give him a taste of his own medicine and send him the way of Admiral Ozzel.

  93. Rorschach August 12, 2013 at 3:17 pm -      #99

    I was also doing my occasional search for Wolverine feats, and though it’s not a Wolverine feat, I think it might be one for Magneto.
    goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/newx150.jpg

  94. Shadow-Knight August 12, 2013 at 3:18 pm -      #100

    @Commander Cross
    Thanks Cross, It had slipped my mind but yea, that still proves that he was a special case.

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