Suggested by Lowk
This match features the debut of Superboy (DC Comics) on FactPile up against Starkiller (Star Wars).
I have to confess that I know absolutely nothing about Superboy, so unless Lowk wants a different scenario, here’s how I will set it up.
Battle takes place on Cybertron, and they are both aware of the other’s presence on the planet.
Who would win?
Well I’m assuming its n52 Superboy, since Lowk has been wanting him in a match for a while…
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Assuming so, based on some posts on FPT, speed they should be more or less comparable since Starkiller can catch TIE fighters which move in excess of Mach 1 and Superboy apparently isn’t massively hypersonic like some n52 DC chars
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Strength is in SB’s favor and is (likely) durability
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Other than that, I’m not sure, what can n52 Superboy
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“Battle takes place on Cybertron”
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Interesting….
I’m going Superboy, tactile telekinesis and kryptonian durability for the win.
Are we useing cyborg starkiller or human starkiller (it could make a diffrence)
Are we using super boy from the very beginning of new 52? Either way I think he pulls it out, but it’ll be easier if his powers have developed further.
I’m going out on a limb, but assuming that superman has moved faster than light before and superboy is the most rape incarnation (albeit at his youngest age) I’m gonna have to give it to superboy.
“I’m going Superboy, tactile telekinesis and kryptonian durability for the win.”
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Without tk he’s only around slightly superhuman in actual durability, but that maybe due to endurance. He has a slight kryptonian HF though, heals wounds and broken bones in about an hour.
Does Starkiller even have an attack to even faze superboy?
hyper-acceleration
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Catches bullets
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Kicks a truck
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“I’m going out on a limb, but assuming that superman has moved faster than light before and superboy is the most rape incarnation (albeit at his youngest age) I’m gonna have to give it to superboy.”
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I think it’s something like Superman>Supergirl>Superboy going by how Supergirl was speed blitzing him and that she kind of admitted SM was faster.
And I don’t think SM has a solid FTL feat yet.
Durability granted by tk
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Surprised without TK up
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Takes a punch hard enough to dent the floor from someone who his tk field doesn’t work right against.
Forgot the links for the last part
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Does Starkiller even have an attack to even faze superboy?
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Isn’t he powerful enough to blast tie fighters, mess up armored vehicles, and move starships?
Didnt starkiller pull a ship from orbit?
neverplayed the game
@Melancholy
He stopped a Stardestroyer from falling at him. He only force pushed at it. However it is still an impressive feat considering how massive the battle ship is.
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If I can remember right he knows an ability or a move where he uses his force to bring Tie Fighters raining down to his foes. Only during gameplay though.
“Does Starkiller even have an attack to even faze superboy?”
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Is this Superboy any different from the Young Justice version? If he is similar will a Lightsaber actually cut him?
@Chaos
“He stopped a Stardestroyer from falling at him. He only force pushed at it. However it is still an impressive feat considering how massive the battle ship is.”
Thanks
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Does SB have any tk feats at this leval?
Superboy was somehow able to disable a security system with TK
not combat impressive but could mean he could fuck up Starkiller’s lightsaber
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If this is superboy from young justice. Starkiller stomps. considering how mild punches cna k.o. superboy.
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if this is superboy from infinite crises, Superboy destroys stakiller before he can blink.
TK punches a giant robot
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and when it tries to swallow him tk blasts out of it’s grip reducing it to it’s base components.
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can learn about something by touching it
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tk simulation of heat vision by moving molecules so fast they combust
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also apparently there’s a gene in Kryptonians that makes them attracted to Amazons in New 52 since that’s Wondergirl with Superboy. Or maybe it’s chicks with Wonder in their title.
@Max
new 52 Superboy.
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powerful concussive tackle on warblade and using TK to manipulate lava
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and was willing to shove it into the guys lungs.
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even accidentally can crack a neck
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and CIS against killing is gone for the fight.
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again learning by touch
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and even when beaten and with two broken arms
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can use his tactile telekinisis with scalpel like precision. Keep in mind the guy he’s ripping the implants out of is immune to his TK so he couldn’t rip a skeleton out. However here, there’s nothing stopping Superboy from ripping Starkiller’s bones out, maybe one by one even.
may or may not be helpful probably not
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can sense the chemical makeup of a drink and after one drink notice a change in coordination and balance.
*views above scenario*
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Uh-oh. This could either be a stomp match or one epic-arse fight! Don’t know enough about Superboy to tell which, lol
@Marcel
check out some of the feats I’ve posted. Superboy’s Tactile TK powers are even able to move things on a molecular level during his simulated heat vision to cause things to combust.
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also really smart, his consciousness and all are not limited to his brain and he theorizes it won’t always be limited to his body.
and somehow knows….things he needs to know. I guess his TK can gather information…
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Wondergirl while wearing indestructible armor forged in the core of a sun (or well really really powerful armor at least) gets a slight gap in it letting Superboy do this
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when focused and clear headed his powers allow him invulnerability and if you make him panic they increase drastically.
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“Is this Superboy any different from the Young Justice version? If he is similar will a Lightsaber actually cut him?”
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Only in the anger and half kryptonian department. Other then that he’s an intelligent, telekinetic, with a less then but still somewhat heroic moral compass.
I think his TK field should keep him safe from the lightsaber for a while.
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“Does SB have any tk feats at this leval?”
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So far only when he’s triggered
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aftermath
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But he’s apparently able to lift a battleship
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Well no one is posting feats for starkiller,I guess I can do that. Never played the game though so the vids may be choppy/out of order
controlling the ground with TK
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and pwns Kid Flash
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made him lose control of his powers, seriously, when did TK’s meaning get changed to letting someone do whatever the fuck they wanted?
Starkiller’s feats in general:
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1. Roughly lightspeed RT
2. Precision TK of his own (tends to lose precision if distracted, and generally goes for larger scale manipulation than smaller-scale)
3. Invades opponent’s minds to the point they explode
4. Has ripped a Star Destroyer out of the air
5. Generates enough Force lightning to one-shot TIE fighters (and one-shot AT-STs when he activates Force Fury)
6. Durable enough to tank hits from a Gorog, and survive a looooooooong-arse fall
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www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=IK8Ki2PtzN8&NR=1 (see from 6:50-9:11)
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That piece of the clip counts only the cutscene time of the fall, (not the time spent fighting the boss), if anybody cares to argue that the height of the fall is questionable
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Just thought I’d give my 2 cents worth on Starkiller (dunno if it’ll make a difference in the match or not yet)
“also apparently there’s a gene in Kryptonians that makes them attracted to Amazons in New 52 since that’s Wondergirl with Superboy. Or maybe it’s chicks with Wonder in their title.”
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Well she’s not an amazon and she was the first female that wasn’t hired to keep him in line, a homicidal maniac, or a mother like figure to him.
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“and somehow knows….things he needs to know. I guess his TK can gather information…”
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Well it’s pretty heavily hinted this SB is cloned from Lex and he was able to learn kryptonian by just being near one so it might have something to do with his genetics somehow.
holy fucking shit
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just….wow using Red Robin’s synapses to electrocute him…just…fucking brutal.
meant synapses of his battle suit.
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@Lowk
ah, just assumed Wonder Girl, Lasso, all that kind of seemed to point. My bad.
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Starkiller vs Darthvader (force Unleashed 2)
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Also star killer looks like aiden from being human
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Random
Right now thinking Superboy beats the crap out of Starkiller and gets the FP award.
“ah, just assumed Wonder Girl, Lasso, all that kind of seemed to point. My bad.”
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s’alright I thought she was at first as well.
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“made him lose control of his powers, seriously, when did TK’s meaning get changed to letting someone do whatever the fuck they wanted?”
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Since Jean Grey.
It’s more of how you use it. SB just happens to be smart in how he can applies it. With KF he’s just pushing him faster then he was capable of.
uses his power to pass through earths core
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hyper acceleration
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knowledge by touch again.
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@Lowk
I though Jean was telepathic and that’s how she got away with stunts like that.
And I’d still call it losing control since KF couldn’t slow down and was flailing his arms, I assumed it was a combo of controlling KF and the way he can speed up molecules.
Either way I’m seeing him coming out on top here.
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tanked supergirls punches.
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“Right now thinking Superboy beats the crap out of Starkiller and gets the FP award.”
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*sees rest of scans posted*
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Yeah…I was really hoping this would be a good match…but anything involving a certain individual with “Super” in front of his name generally turns out like this, doesn’t it? Yet another stomp for Supes…sigh…
@Marcel
I don’t think it’s a stomp Starkiller can win if he catches Superboy offguard. Its just a matter of doing that in a one on one fight.
“I don’t think it’s a stomp Starkiller can win if he catches Superboy offguard. Its just a matter of doing that in a one on one fight.”
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So its MOSTLY a stomp, lol
“uses his power to pass through earths core”
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Actually he stated he’s was only about a mile under earths surface.
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“I though Jean was telepathic and that’s how she got away with stunts like that.”
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I saw a scan once where she shaped her suit into different outfits using TK.
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“Either way I’m seeing him coming out on top here.”
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Yeah seems that way. Guess I either over estimated starkiller or underestimated Superboy.
Thought SK lightsaber falling under weapons that could attack him without falling under the tact TK and Starkillers own tk would help more.
Maybe I’ll try Kharn, Megatron, or Azien next time.
@Lowk
My bad thought he went though the long way.
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Nevermind then
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Kharn would be fun.
“Maybe I’ll try Kharn, Megatron, or Azien next time.”
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Against who, Starkiller or Kharn?
Enjoyed discovering more on this Superboy either way.
““Maybe I’ll try Kharn, Megatron, or Azien next time.”
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Against who, Starkiller or Kharn?”
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Oops! Meant, “Against who, Starkiller, or Superboy?”
Did anybody else get an email about Afro Samurai vs Itachi Uchiha being posted? like a few minutes ago?
@ Ammo
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Nope.
“Against who, Starkiller, or Superboy?”
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Superboy.
Hmmm weird,my phone is psychic *Goes to play Lottery*
Starkiller vs Kharn could be pretty cool, though it might be a bit too much like the Luke vs Kharn match. I get the feeling Superboy would put the hurt on Kharn pretty quick, but I could be wrong.
What does it mean, “Tactile Telekinesis” Because from the looks of things, it appears as if he has to touch something to affect it. Therefore, if Starkiller just Force-grabs him and slams him around enough, he should be able to kill him. If, of course, my interpretation is true.
“ check out some of the feats I’ve posted. Superboy’s Tactile TK powers are even able to move things on a molecular level during his simulated heat vision to cause things to combust. “
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Speeding up molecular motion to cause heat is called “pyrokinesis” and force users can do that too if they have the proper affinity.
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Overall I would say Superboy probably takes this one; Starkiller is good and DC did quite a job of nerfing their heroes, especially the ‘second line’ types like Superboy, but it is still a case of comic book power against sci-fi power levels which usually favors the former.
@Amm0
I got it too.
Ok well atleast Im not alone thanks @TGT aka G.A I felt crazy for a second
Is this connor kent? if so is it original universe or new 52?
“What does it mean, “Tactile Telekinesis” Because from the looks of things, it appears as if he has to touch something to affect it.”
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It enhance himself to mimic kryptonian like abilities(Flight, super speed, strength, durability) in addition to allowing him to be able to scan his surroundings.
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He does however have traditional tk
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TK fields
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Even can do like starkiller
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Touching things seems to just amplifies his control over things.
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“Therefore, if Starkiller just Force-grabs him and slams him around enough, he should be able to kill him.”
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Even with just Tact TK he still using TK to control his body. He does it to control how he moves through the air. A force blast might be able to knock him back if it’s strong enough but neither should have much control over each other.
“if so is it original universe or new 52?”
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New52
Didn’t Pyre debunk the “force users have lightspeed reactions” over on Starkiller vs Queen of Blades?
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Since if he had lightspeed reactions, he wouldn’t need precog to dodge blaster bolts
“Didn’t Pyre debunk the “force users have lightspeed reactions” over on Starkiller vs Queen of Blades?”
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What was his argument?
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“Since if he had lightspeed reactions, he wouldn’t need precog to dodge blaster bolts”
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It’s more that their precog CREATES lightspeed RT, if that makes sense.
“What was his argument?”
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His argument was that they react to things before they happen, not after they happen
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“It’s more that their precog CREATES lightspeed RT, if that makes sense.”
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I s’pose it does, but its still seeing things before they happen and acting accordingly
“His argument was that they react to things before they happen, not after they happen”
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And
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“I s’pose it does, but its still seeing things before they happen and acting accordingly”
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Ok, I guess that’s where my poor wording comes into play yet again, lol. Anyways, yes, Pyre’s argument holds weight, as G-level canon backs him up multiple times. However, I guess I used the term “lightspeed RT” to describe what their precog has allowed them to react to in the past, e.g. Anakin and Obi-Wan reacting to each other and executing a flight maneuver while each is flying towards each other at quote: “a respectable fraction of lightspeed,” and defeating multiple enemies at once that possess reflexes that themselves operate at lightspeed. So, it’s not that they have lightspeed RT per se; it’s that the Force allows them to react to things that travel and operate at around lightspeed. Is that better?
So Superboy wins this right?
Is this the super than can hold up the earth for 5 days and not sweat anything besides one drop?
“Is this the super than can hold up the earth for 5 days and not sweat anything besides one drop?”
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No and iirc the comic correctly Superman was sweating more, the doc only needed one drop though for whatever.