Dio Brando Vs Dante

Dio Brando Vs Dante

Suggested by Amm0vamp1r3

This came to me so i thought hey why not,Dio has the Reaction speed and some pretty good powers but would it be enought to Put down the oh so powerful Dante? Two fights: First Fight niether get time stop | Second they both get time stop

Dio Brando is the main villain of Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure. Dante is a fan favorite of the Devil May Cry series (current or classic version is up to the suggestor). One is a vampire is also a stand user. The other is a half demon (with the other half depending on which canon). Can Dante defeat Dio on both categories? Or will he, Dio, use Dante’s head to store his bottle caps?

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218 Comments on "Dio Brando Vs Dante"

  1. Dark God of Chaos March 24, 2013 at 8:22 am -      #1

    Which version of Dante?
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    Either way I’m pretty sure Dio is faster and likely stronger too

  2. Kitten Lord March 24, 2013 at 8:23 am -      #2

    Dante doesnt really get a real “time stop” in this one, his devil trigger sort of flings enemies in the air ,making them seemingly helpless but time dilation is hard to gauge, I doubt it would work so easily on anyone of strength or worth like Dio. Who apprently has a full fledged time stop based on what I read in the Alucard thread.

    Also based on that thread, it was said Dio can survive being cut into piecies, even having his head removed and can freeze blood with a touch? I think Dante has his work cut out for him.

  3. Dark God of Chaos March 24, 2013 at 8:27 am -      #3

    Oh, and Dio could also mind rape him or something

  4. Kitten Lord March 24, 2013 at 8:29 am -      #4

    iceing on the cake then, it could be argued but I dont think this Dante is generally as quick as his previous self. Nor as generally hax. I never got that feeling when playing the game anyway.

  5. sadot06 March 24, 2013 at 8:40 am -      #5

    @Kitten Lord

    Incarnation wasn’t specified so it should be current canon Dante, DMC 2, which would give him an actual time stop. But that is the 2nd fight. What are Brando’s actual feats?

  6. Kitten Lord March 24, 2013 at 8:46 am -      #6

    Well ill let Ammo say himself, but based on the image and his general interest in giving the new Dante a fight, I think he meant the new DmC dante.

  7. Crimson Sentry March 24, 2013 at 8:58 am -      #7

    Dio only gets 5 seconds on and off of time-stop (He uses it for 5 seconds, then he has to wait 5 seconds without it). So if Dante could survive getting pummeled for 5 seconds at a time then kill him in the next 5 then he’ll have a chance. I think Dante has pretty good durability though so it might be possible.

  8. Rookie March 24, 2013 at 9:11 am -      #8

    Isn’t Dio lightspeed? Or it was his stand?

  9. Rookie March 24, 2013 at 9:16 am -      #9

    How Dante gooing to resist blood freezing? If Dio stop time when use it on Dante… But when again Dio seems to give up on his old techs when he got his stand ability, so I don’t know if he can still use it.

  10. sadot06 March 24, 2013 at 9:57 am -      #10

    @KittenLord

    If he said time stop and didn’t specify incarnations then he’s talking about DMC 2 Dante. Prequel reboot Dante doesn’t have any time stop.

    @Crimson

    I think Dante’s time stop lasts for 1 minute and he has crazy regen.

  11. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 10:00 am -      #11

    Thanks for Posting the fight AkumaTh
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    I think this is could be a close fight but in the end I think Dio will pull it out,The world with his diamond shattering punches should be enough to crack Dantes skull and rattle his brain if he is hit with enough
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    Dio respect thread ( I didn’t get much done here but there are some nice feats)
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    www.factpiletopia.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=46013

  12. sadot06 March 24, 2013 at 10:00 am -      #12

    We can ask Amm for confirmation about incarnation though.

  13. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 10:03 am -      #13

    I think DMC 2 would be the best incarnation in this fight,right?

  14. sadot06 March 24, 2013 at 10:06 am -      #14

    @Amm

    Yeah, it’s his strongest form. Dante’s feats are pretty well chronicled I think. Strength in the double digit tons, hypersonic+ speed, crazy regen. The respect thread for Dio seemed kind of light.

  15. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 10:18 am -      #15

    Yea I didn’t get to far into,I had a lot of work to do,I didn’t make it to his stand
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    What other DMC game does Dante get time stop? Was it 3? because I want to use a Dante incarnation that rarely gets used

  16. sadot06 March 24, 2013 at 10:32 am -      #16

    He first gets time stop in 3.

  17. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 10:36 am -      #17

    Ok so DMC 3 version is in use here because its normally 2,this opens up more of a debate.
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    Shows some good feats for Dio
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  18. Crimson Sentry March 24, 2013 at 10:45 am -      #18

    Hmm actually in retrospect im not sure how long Dio can keep time stopped I just know it takes him 5 seconds to “recharge” his ability, and yes he does have crazy regen, but if you dismember him thats kinda moot.

  19. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 11:18 am -      #19

    www.factpile.com/8808-dio-brando-vs-dante/
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    www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tgsnte029ic&feature=player_embedded
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    3:20 – 3:55 Dio put Abdul in the coffin without anyone noticing
    24:23 – 24:30 (blast Jotaro out faster then he can summon Star Platinum)
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    www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYm1J_B1kFM&feature=player_embedded
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    7:28 – 7:40 he took a hit from a car un-scathed infact the car took damage instead
    9:33 – 10:09 he mind rapes a US senator (was also done in the manga i just find the OVA version better though)
    13:57 – 14:25 blocks Emerald Splash which in the OVA is equal to machine gun fire so Hypersonic Reactions and movement since he blocks it with his hand then he takes it and comes out unscathed.
    14:52 – 15:05 Za Warudo blitzes Hierophant Green and punches it down a city block easily.
    15:12 – 15:38 The results of the mind rape, then Dio flips a train over while the train is moving then it shows he is not hurt at all from the explosion or hitting the train.
    16:46 – 16:55 Dio threw the dead US senator down a city block and hit the truck Joesph and Kakyoin are in.
    19:11 – 21:49 Dodging and reacting to Emerald Splash giving Dio Massively hypersonic reaction (he reacts to the acts moments before they even hit) then he tanks the attacks finally kicking the blast out of the way for the lulz.
    21:51 – 22:47 flies at Kakyoin and has Za Warudo punch a hole in him launching Kakyoin back.
    26:15 – 26:40 tanking a Hamon/Ripple attack (Hamon/Ripple attacks are extremely effective against vampires.)
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    www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nlnf7crCHfs&feature=player_embedded
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    Dio’s whole fight with Jotaro.
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    Thanks to Soldiers Shadow for putting this up

  20. sadot06 March 24, 2013 at 11:19 am -      #20
  21. AkumaTh March 24, 2013 at 11:23 am -      #21

    @Amm0vamp1r3: No problem.
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    Perfect timing too since the New Jojo Abridged Series began.

  22. Soldier's Shadow March 24, 2013 at 12:00 pm -      #22

    In this match-up, I feel the winner will be decided on who can react first. Being that both are at the very least bullet timers, its fairly even in who can pull it off. Dio is ruthless enough to do so off the bat while DMC2 Dante doesn’t fuck around as much as other incarnations to pull it off.

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    Looking past the time powers, I think Dio has the tricks that can allow him a chance to one up Dante between his blood spores and mind rape abilities. Dante comparatively has more demonstrated physical power than Dio. The Stand is faster than Dante and has access to a time stop, but any damage it takes will be transferred back to Dio as his fight with Jotaro showed.

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    Dante is strong enough to overpower Dio and can overwhelm his massive regen whereas Dio has no surefire way of putting down Dante and neither does his Stand from what I’ve seen.

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    While Dio has the means of making the fight a very long and challenging one, I hand the win to Dante.

  23. Soldier's Shadow March 24, 2013 at 12:01 pm -      #23

    Whoops, saw this is DMC3 Dante. Either way, I stand by him being able to power through to a victory.

  24. sadot06 March 24, 2013 at 12:05 pm -      #24

    Best of Dante: www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_4BFnhd6zk
    12:45 Obtains Agni and Rudura
    13:20 Catches Lady
    13:40 Get’s shot in the head by her point blank and tanks it. Then Get’s shot in the head again, tanks it too.
    15:40 starts fighting Virgil. Bullet time feats.
    16:20 Fights with Virgil more. Gets impaled but keeps getting up.
    18:20-20:40 Free falls and runs down massive tower while fighting. Get’s swallowed by giant creature and kills it from the inside.
    24:45 dodges bullet with back turned
    25:00 – 25:55 more casual bullet timing.
    27:00 punches falling debris
    27:58 Shakes off punch from giant demon that makes him make an imprint in the ground.
    29:38 Gets time stop and uses it.
    35:00 rpg dodge
    35:39 beats demons up with motorcycle mid air. Then casually tanks when it blows up.

  25. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 12:41 pm -      #25

    With out time stop I think Dio be able to still keep up with Dante,As seen in the fight with Jotaro and what he did to abdul,he is fast, The World serves up some strong punches and vampires in there are strong by themselves. And Dio got An upgrade at the end of his fight with Jotaro how much I don’t really know and Dante doesn’t seem to have great Durability, more so than great healing and Dio can smack the top of someones head off
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    Freeze your blood (how do you heal from that I don’t know), and Mind spores and such,
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    With Time stop Dio has no qualms about using it as seen so he will make use of it now all the stuff he has with 5-8 seconds of time stop seems like it would he hard for Dante to come back from

  26. sadot06 March 24, 2013 at 1:08 pm -      #26

    “With out time stop I think Dio be able to still keep up with Dante,As seen in the fight with Jotaro and what he did to abdul,he is fast, The World serves up some strong punches and vampires in there are strong by themselves. And Dio got An upgrade at the end of his fight with Jotaro how much I don’t really know and Dante doesn’t seem to have great Durability, more so than great healing and Dio can smack the top of someones head off
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    Freeze your blood (how do you heal from that I don’t know), and Mind spores and such,
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    With Time stop Dio has no qualms about using it as seen so he will make use of it now all the stuff he has with 5-8 seconds of time stop seems like it would he hard for Dante to come back from”
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    I honestly don’t see how Dio wins this. He’s comparable in speed, but seems to have a glaring weakness, namely head shots. He’s certainly not faster than Dante so he can and will be hit. Also Dante has great durability. He shrugged off that punch from a massive demon that sank him into the floor. He casually walks toward the jukebox while impaled by multiple scycthes. He’s only actually hurt when fighting Virgil, who would stomp Dio, and even then he pops right back up. And he’s got devil trigger mode too. I haven’t seen this blood freezing stuff, I’ll need feats for that. Dio’s time stop is also inferior. He can use it for 5 seconds at a time, and it takes too long to start up, as evidenced by his fight with Jotaro who whales on him before he can use it while he’s trying to escape. Dante’s is instant. Overall I haven’t seen any attacks that could put Dante down for long, assuming he connects with them. 1st fight Dante overwhelms him with great speed and an assortment of weapons. 2nd fight, Dante stomps because his time stop is faster and lasts longer.

  27. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 1:24 pm -      #27

    “I honestly don’t see how Dio wins this. He’s comparable in speed, but seems to have a glaring weakness, namely head shots. He’s certainly not faster than Dante so he can and will be hit. Also Dante has great durability. He shrugged off that punch from a massive demon that sank him into the floor. He casually walks toward the jukebox while impaled by multiple scycthes. He’s only actually hurt when fighting Virgil, who would stomp Dio, and even then he pops right back up. And he’s got devil trigger mode too. I haven’t seen this blood freezing stuff, I’ll need feats for that. Dio’s time stop is also inferior. He can use it for 5 seconds at a time, and it takes too long to start up, as evidenced by his fight with Jotaro who whales on him before he can use it while he’s trying to escape. Dante’s is instant. Overall I haven’t seen any attacks that could put Dante down for long, assuming he connects with them. 1st fight Dante overwhelms him with great speed and an assortment of weapons. 2nd fight, Dante stomps because his time stop is faster and lasts longer.”
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    Yes his head is his weakness,and he knows that Dante does not,And Dante doesn’t seem to go for head shots more so that just total destruction.
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    Also Dio has his stand the world which will protect him.
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    He isn’t faster but his stand is and Dio isn’t slow so he will give Dante a workout in the movement department.
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    Dante has great,Blunt durability which will help against The worlds punches but even then a bunch of punches will hurt after a while and he does have the throwing knives (Doubt it will do much but they are there)
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    The world speed wise I would say yea it is slower,to jotaro because some one told him how it works, before that no one knew how Dios stand worked and it seemed instant which I think will be the same for Dante

  28. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 1:29 pm -      #28

    Also Im doing some work right now,but I plan on reading through it again to find some more stuff for Dio

  29. sadot06 March 24, 2013 at 1:34 pm -      #29

    If you watched the videos, Dante definetely goes for the head. It doesn’t matter if Dante doesn’t know it’s his weakness, it’s not something obscure like Kryptonite. It’s a weakness one would expect anybody to have. And world isn’t that much greater than Dio, Dante can still take it out and the damage will reflect back on Dio. It’s great that it has power punches but they have to land. Because of how slow his time stop is to start up compared to Dante, I dont see how he activates it first.

  30. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 1:44 pm -      #30

    I havent watched the vids yet,like I said kind of busy, So if he goes for the head thats great but he better go for the head fast because Dio is fast by himself, Has the world to make up for any slack and the world has FTL reactions if I recall right,
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    And Dio activating times stop faster one is,Dantes sets off faster yes but loses potency after he touches something like the rocks, Now Dio as said doesn’t hold back with his time stop he uses it whenever he wants to,So character seems to be the thing that would make Dio use his faster
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    He punches FTL like star platinum so Dante would be hard pressed to dodge them

  31. Kitten Lord March 24, 2013 at 1:46 pm -      #31

    He punches faster than light? is that ine the above vids? Does the universe take into account the laws of physics, e.g. his fist strikes with ridiculous force?

  32. Rookie March 24, 2013 at 1:55 pm -      #32

    After re-reading JJBA I kinda confused. Part 3 have 1 confirmed FTL feat from the stand Silver Chariot. Dio claimed that his stand are superior in speed and strenght to all others. But this is just a claim, so it’s no use to me in this fight.
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    Dio show us the ability to deflect attack that can break a tower with one finger (Well he block the attack that blast the tower with his leg but this is because it was sudden attack and before he blocks similar strikes with fingers) also this attack seems faster than bullet since SP have trouble to block such attack (before SP casually catch a bullet from close range). Also Dio stand> SP in terms of speeds, until SP goes berserk. And blood freezing allows Dio to vaporize one’s bodily fluids upon contact. Thus sapping away the heat, thus causing him to freeze. Unless Dante has resistance to having his fluids vaporized, heat being sapped away from him, or to being completely frozen, I see this as win-chance for Dio. But Dante also can time-stop… As I see it Dio see that Dante can move in time-stop sends forvart the World and attack from the other side thus managed (maybe) grab Dante. Maybe lose arm or leg during this. And then… blood freeze… Kinda silly I know)
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    I guess I wait a little and then decide.

  33. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 1:59 pm -      #33

    I think it was said in the manga, The World is better than Star Platinum and Star Platinum punches at FTL speed and has Diamond crushing power and The World has fought star platinum and bested him
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    But like I said I have to look through the manga

  34. Kitten Lord March 24, 2013 at 2:03 pm -      #34

    -Off topic you wouldnt mind replying in the legacy of Kain respect thread would you Ammo? Continue our discussion on LoK if you get the time. Thankies.

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    If its literally faster than light without a doubt then no, Dante cannot dodge this if at close range. He may be able to predict Dio and try and escape/move accordingly out of Dios range but its not his general character, Dante usually goes into close combat if his guns dont do their job.

  35. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 2:10 pm -      #35

    Yea I will later,Im about to take a break from this mind numbing work anywat
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    Yea I will try to find the pages with the FTL talk to clear the air
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    But yea thats what I was thinking Dios FTL stand seems like it would make this a tough fight for Dante,it won’t close the deal because Dante does have healing but enough punches (like our Legacy of Kain talk) should be enough to do some enternal damage after a while
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    Also he has Space ripper stingy eyes
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    outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Dio+Brando

  36. Rookie March 24, 2013 at 2:15 pm -      #36

    @Amm0vamp1r3
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    You seems to know about Dio, so I want to ask. Is he stronger than Tarkus who shattered a cliff just by stabbing his sword to the ground (in raw strenght) or not? (because I am too lazy to re-read part 1))

  37. Kitten Lord March 24, 2013 at 2:16 pm -      #37

    I think if the punches are coming at faster than light, Dante will probably end up with holes in his chest, if Dio can keep them up quickly and consistently and he can apparently break diamond then hes overall striking power will be beyond anything Dantes ever faced. Hes going to be pretty blooded if he cant keep away.

  38. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 2:25 pm -      #38

    @Rookie
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    I know the basics about Dio but I am about to reread part 1 and 3 so ill try to find out
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    @KittenLord
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    Well I didn’t think it would effect to much because he would heal from most of the damage but he would feel it

  39. FactPile God March 24, 2013 at 2:45 pm -      #39

    Dante should be able to take any and everything Dio throws at him.

  40. Rookie March 24, 2013 at 2:49 pm -      #40

    @FactPile God
    “Dante should be able to take any and everything Dio throws at him.”
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    Even blood freeze? How can Dante take on such attack?

  41. FactPile God March 24, 2013 at 2:59 pm -      #41

    “Even blood freeze? How can Dante take on such attack?”
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    Dante has gone up agianst demons who generate below 0 ice I’m pretty sure he can take dio’s blood freezing.

  42. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 3:00 pm -      #42
  43. Rookie March 24, 2013 at 3:06 pm -      #43

    @FactPile God
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    “Dante has gone up agianst demons who generate below 0 ice I’m pretty sure he can take dio’s blood freezing.”
    I never knew that. Could you please post video about those demons and the words that they can generate below 0 ice? Because such feat can really help Dante.

  44. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 3:14 pm -      #46

    Before this reaches 50 anybody got anything tha could change to make the fight better?

  45. Kitten Lord March 24, 2013 at 3:17 pm -      #47

    Give Dio the infnity gauntlet from marvel and Dante every lantern ring from DC.

  46. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 3:20 pm -      #48

    Done

  47. FactPile God March 24, 2013 at 3:22 pm -      #49

    “I never knew that. Could you please post video about those demons and the words that they can generate below 0 ice? Because such feat can really help Dante.”
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    “The cold honed claws are none other than an ice blade. The air around the blades is beyond absolute zero temperature and the victims who are slashed will die without feeling any pain.”
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    Ammo
    None of that is actually impressive by Dante’s standards

  48. Kitten Lord March 24, 2013 at 3:23 pm -      #50

    I was only kidding but that would be damn cool :) not sure which artefacts combined are more powerful though but I would still say Dio at base, vs Dante at base would end with Dio being the victor more often than not.

    Lightspeed punches, surviving heavy wounds including decapitation and his own time powers being pretty hax as well lead to me thinking Dio has a “one up” on Dante in most ways.

  49. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 3:29 pm -      #51

    Yea I know lol that would tilt this fight so much it would be hilarious
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    @FPGod
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    Yea I know but we haven’t got to the good part with the stand yet but still those prove Dio can hurt him,not put him down with what has been provided but he can hurt them.

  50. FactPile God March 24, 2013 at 3:38 pm -      #53

    The best Dio can do is delay his defeat with several timestops.

  51. Soldier's Shadow March 24, 2013 at 3:53 pm -      #55

    Where did it say the Stand attacks at FTL? I thought it only reacted at that speed? If it can attack that way, Dante will be pulverized and turned to mush the moment it counter him.Also, when did Dio smack off something’s head?

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    However, until that is proven, Dio can only slow Dante down without being able to finish him off as Factpile God stated. Dante is simply too strong and has a good enough regen to be taken out by Dio or his Stand’s attack unless they actually go at FTL.

  52. Nomad March 24, 2013 at 3:53 pm -      #56

    Dante looks a little… beat up.

  53. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 4:04 pm -      #57
  54. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 4:06 pm -      #58

    “Where did it say the Stand attacks at FTL? I thought it only reacted at that speed? If it can attack that way, Dante will be pulverized and turned to mush the moment it counter him.Also, when did Dio smack off something’s head?”
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    I posted it ealier #11 will show you him smacking the head off,well in half, Im looking for the FTL stuff,it might just be FTL reactions

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  55. Soldier's Shadow March 24, 2013 at 4:07 pm -      #59

    What were the properties of the being he shattered? Was it a regenerator like Dio himself or just some random fool?

  56. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 4:11 pm -      #61

    “What were the properties of the being he shattered? Was it a regenerator like Dio himself or just some random fool?”
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    One of the people who was helping jojo,he was friends with the guy who taught jojo the ripple technique

  57. FactPile God March 24, 2013 at 4:21 pm -      #62

    “Where did it say the Stand attacks at FTL? I thought it only reacted at that speed? If it can attack that way, Dante will be pulverized and turned to mush the moment it counter him.Also, when did Dio smack off something’s head?”
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    Yeah I agree with this. But nowhere have I’ve seen dio having lightspeed attacks unless they’re referring to his it when he uses his timestop
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    “,it might just be FTL reactions”
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    From what?

  58. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 4:36 pm -      #64

    Soldier’s ShadowOctober 7, 2011 at 2:16 pm – #23

    “D has been able to comeback from the dead though it’ll take awhile. The other team doesn’t know that though.”

    So what would happen if Kain used Implode on him? That’s spontaneous combustion right there. What about if Alucard used TK on him to keep him in place while the others attacked?

    “Can someone give me some background on Dio? What is the World?”

    I’m not the most knowledgeable on Dio but I can give you a low down of what I know. D is vampire that was created when he doned the Stone Mask that turned him into one. He can shoot pressurized liquids that can cut through people and stone easily along with the typical vampire powers of superstrength, speed and durability. His regeneration is strong enough to allow him to put parts of himself back together (I saw a scan of it and will bring it when I can find a proper link.) and last while being burned though he does burn up in sunlight. Hell, he even survived as a severed head to kill a man in the first part of JoJo’s Bizarre Story.

    The Stand is a ghostly bodyguard that can stop time (useless here against D) and superhuman strength and FTL reactions. It’s not a seperate character but more akin to how D’s Left Hand is allowed to participate in fights with him present.”
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    Vampire Hunter D vs Dio,Kain,Raziel and Alucard Said by soldier Shadow
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    super duper ChuckApril 18, 2011 at 6:16 pm – #13

    “Does Dio have the killing potential to defeat Kenshiro? I mean even with Time Stop, can he even get the job done?”

    lol does he? Dio is friggin sadistic his stand(the world) is FTL and he can freeze organic tissue on contact, meaning he can freeze kenshiro and the world has feats like punching through walls of diamond and dodging and catching bullets at point blank.”
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    Dio vs Kenshiro
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    “Powers and Abilities: Vampirism (sucks blood through his hands even though he has fangs), super strength, speed, durability, agility, FTL reactions (Stand only), timestop, his stand Za Warudo (The World) which is FTL and very strong, can shoot liquid beams from his eyes that can cut through steel, regeneration (High-Mid), immortality (types 1 and 3) can spy on people from across the world using psychic powers, can freeze organic tissue on contact, can transform humans and other creatures into zombie/vampire servants, can implant spores in people to control them, said spores will attempt to kill or possess anyone who tries to remove them”
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    Outskirts battle dome
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    So he is known to be some form of FTL be it attack or Reaction,but like I said I will look through the manga

  59. Rookie March 24, 2013 at 4:36 pm -      #65

    @Soldier’s Shadow
    “Where did it say the Stand attacks at FTL?”
    @FactPile God
    “Yeah I agree with this. But nowhere have I’ve seen dio having lightspeed attacks unless they’re referring to his it when he uses his timestop”


    I guess based on that: i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/Rookie122/FTL_zpse8d6e79b.png
    Dio stand was stronger and faster than SP until Jotaro went berserk.

  60. Soldier's Shadow March 24, 2013 at 4:46 pm -      #66

    Its been established that Dio has the advantage of more abilities, but only the mind rape and time stop are of any major relevance. The eye beams that cut steel may be of danger to Dante but only if he pulls off the time stop or freezes his blood to get a clean shot off.

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    Dante’s physical strength is superior to the vampire’s and he can keep Dio occupied between his speed and the rate of fire of his handguns. The World can fight back, but it hasn’t shown the capability to take down Dante either. If it gets hurt, Dio is hurt and while he can regen from most attacks, Dante’s stronger ones should be capable of ending him.

  61. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 4:51 pm -      #67

    Yea if the stand is hurt it goes to Dio but it has to be powerful,Diamond shattering to effect him

  62. Soldier's Shadow March 24, 2013 at 5:18 pm -      #69

    If this is DMC3 Dante, does he have access to his other Devil Arms like Beowulf, etc?

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    Also, can we get some relevant feats that show Dio as capable of killing Dante?

  63. FactPile God March 24, 2013 at 5:20 pm -      #70

    I still believe this light speed crap isn’t legit since it comes from the data book and is shown nowhere in the series and if we went by it than that’ll actually mean that Naruto sauske and would be FTL, since in earlier instances of the mangas there were characters which were stated to be light speeders.
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    Dante takes this with minimal difficulty

  64. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 5:26 pm -      #71

    Im guessing what ever he has in DMC 3 he can get unless at one point he lost it or gave it away
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    The feats posted are just showing what Dio can do, Im almost done with his vampire time
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    So We know he can shoot lasers that cut through stone and such,these will pierce Dante, Now Dio would have to time these right to use them but It doesn’t seem like it would be hard to do since Dante isn’t as serious as his DMC 2 form so he may try to tank them instead of dodging them but he can heal, but can he heal one shoot through his head?
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    Dio in vampire form is strong and has strong striking power,with a flick of the wrist took the top half of a guys head, Now could Dante be alright with this kind of attack,becase I don’t know if that is blunt or slicing damage
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    Freezing I think this would be a viable way to put Dante down a full body freeze and smash,
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    The spores and Brain control I haven’t found much on it yet so I don’t know how that works,but Dio does have zombification and with enough could possibly take over Dante with that

  65. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 5:30 pm -      #72

    Chuck
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    You said he was FTL so now you don’t agree with it
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    super duper ChuckApril 18, 2011 at 6:16 pm – #13

    “Does Dio have the killing potential to defeat Kenshiro? I mean even with Time Stop, can he even get the job done?”

    lol does he? Dio is friggin sadistic his stand(the world) is FTL and he can freeze organic tissue on contact, meaning he can freeze kenshiro and the world has feats like punching through walls of diamond and dodging and catching bullets at point blank.”
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    Dio vs Kenshiro

  66. FactPile God March 24, 2013 at 5:34 pm -      #73

    “You said he was FTL so now you don’t agree with it”
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    Yeah that was back when I was going off what the data book says but now I believe it’s a bunch of bull since in the naruto series Haku was stated to move at lightspeed also

  67. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 5:41 pm -      #74

    Oh alright I see what you saying

  68. Soldier's Shadow March 24, 2013 at 5:43 pm -      #75

    Well, if Dante has Beowulf and his other weapons, he’s got some serious force behind his attacks like Beowulf’s Volcano, Nevan’s lightning, and then his other crap. Toss in Quicksilver and Doppelganger and he has his own time slow and distraction to confuse and overwhelm Dio.

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    Dante has superior movement speed and a wide arrange of offensive damage that should do enough to bring Dio to an end.

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    Dio’s main advantage in this fight beyond his time stop is his mind rape, but I’m still unsure of whether or not he can kill Dante.

  69. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 5:52 pm -      #76

    I personally don’t see where the idea Dio can’t kill Dante comes from
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    He has human durability against piercing and Good Durability against Blunt force, Dio has the ability to freeze him,And shoot beams that will cut through him,Claws that he can use to drain him dry or Infect him
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    I admit I don’t know everything about Dante but what I do know is he has limits which I think Dio can break through,with said abilities and his Stand plus Dio only plays around with the likes of people he knows like the Joestars and crew and I see no reason he would play around with Dante

  70. Rookie March 24, 2013 at 5:53 pm -      #77

    @FactPile God
    “I still believe this light speed crap isn’t legit since it comes from the data book and is shown nowhere in the series and if we went by it than that’ll actually mean that Naruto sauske and would be FTL, since in earlier instances of the mangas there were characters which were stated to be light speeders.”


    Well I can’t help with that, since I don’t believe it too. But in the same ark with Dio we have Polnareff feat of being able to cut someone who is lightspeed (Polnareff stand moved after Hanged man stand started to move.). And Dio later said that his stand superior in terms of speed to all others. Also later it seems that the upgrade version of Polnareff’s stand fight against the SP who managed to keep up with it, but I have yet to read that part, so I can’t really say if this was PIS or what.
    i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/Rookie122/FTL2_zps7b5b83b7.png

  71. Rookie March 24, 2013 at 5:56 pm -      #78

    @Amm0vamp1r3
    “Dio has the ability to freeze him”

    FactPile God proved that Dio can’t.

    @Amm0vamp1r3
    “And shoot beams that will cut through him”

    Do we know how fast such beam?

  72. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 5:57 pm -      #79

    www.tenmanga.com/chapter/JojosBizarreAdventure139/158799/
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    Seems as though if you are not a stand user you can’t see them
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    So that would be a problem for Dante,

  73. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 5:58 pm -      #80

    “FactPile God proved that Dio can’t.”
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    Where would this be?

  74. Rookie March 24, 2013 at 6:05 pm -      #81

    @Amm0vamp1r3
    “Where would this be?”


    @FactPile God
    “The cold honed claws are none other than an ice blade. The air around the blades is beyond absolute zero temperature and the victims who are slashed will die without feeling any pain.”

    I used some search and later find wiki about these creature’s.
    Come to think about it’s kinda ironic to read this later:
    @FactPile God
    “I still believe this light speed crap isn’t legit since it comes from the data book”

  75. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 6:07 pm -      #82

    Yea I saw that but thats just a description,I haven’t seen Dante take a hit from them or anything to suggest he would take being frozen.
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    So yea Ill need some more

  76. Rookie March 24, 2013 at 6:12 pm -      #83

    @Amm0vamp1r3
    “Yea I saw that but thats just a description,I haven’t seen Dante take a hit from them or anything to suggest he would take being frozen.
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    So yea Ill need some more”


    So either we take this as true and then Dio stand is FTL or we consider this similar to info from data-book (until we see other feats in support below zero of course) and then Dio not FTL but can freeze Dante right?

  77. FactPile God March 24, 2013 at 6:16 pm -      #84

    “I used some search and later find wiki about these creature’s.
    Come to think about it’s kinda ironic to read this later:”
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    That’s from the character’s bios and its quoted straight from the game.
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    “Yea I saw that but thats just a description,I haven’t seen Dante take a hit from them or anything to suggest he would take being frozen.”
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    Gameplay wise Dante also has tanked hellfire without pain and hellfire in the DMC verse is hotter than fire from a volcano so that says something
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    “And Dio later said that his stand superior in terms of speed to all others.”
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    Cocky
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    “Dio has the ability to freeze him,”
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    dante breaks out
    “And shoot beams that will cut through him,
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    Dante heals instantly
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    “Claws that he can use to drain him dry or Infect him”
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    Will do nothing but activate his devil trigger and cause an explosion

  78. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 6:17 pm -      #85

    Yea these are the same,just words until proven,thats why Im reading through Jojos bizarre adventure right now to find the FTL thing,or anything like that
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    So Dante supporters need to find something that SHOWS he is immune to freezing,and freezing all the way through like Dio does

  79. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 6:21 pm -      #86

    “Gameplay wise Dante also has tanked hellfire without pain and hellfire in the DMC verse is hotter than fire from a volcano so that says something”
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    Thats gameplay need cutscene because gameplay you can go with out being hit,unless the game is made for you not to
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    “dante breaks out”
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    Something to support this?
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    “Dante heals instantly”
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    Has he ever taken something completly through his brain?
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    “Will do nothing but activate his devil trigger and cause an explosion”
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    How strong is said explosion? Because Dio has tanked explosions.

  80. FactPile God March 24, 2013 at 6:29 pm -      #87

    “Something to support this?”
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    He’s strong enough to do so and he does it in gameplay( agianst 0 below ice attacks)
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    “Has he ever taken something completly through his brain?”
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    He’s been shot in the head
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    “How strong is said explosion? Because Dio has tanked explosions.”
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    www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnh4bJbOFaw (1:50)
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    anyway what’s Dio and his stand durability like? Cause I believe one good shot from dante should end it

  81. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 6:34 pm -      #88

    “He’s strong enough to do so and he does it in gameplay( agianst 0 below ice attacks)”
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    Anything Canon to support this is what I meant,not game play
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    “He’s been shot in the head”
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    Did it go completely through the Brain?
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    “anyway what’s Dio and his stand durability like? Cause I believe one good shot from dante should end it”
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    Took a car running into him unscathed,Took an explosion on multiple occasions,Takes punches from Jotaros Stand with out being destroyed and thats Dio
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    I have to find stuff for the stand because I don’t fully remember anything

  82. FactPile God March 24, 2013 at 6:44 pm -      #89

    “Anything Canon to support this is what I meant,not game play”
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    There’s only gameplay since dante doesn’t have a cutscene with the frost
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    “Did it go completely through the Brain?”
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    www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUa2r9MVG8o 0:28 highly unlikely since Dante’s skull is harder than the average human’s since he’s able to catch a bullet without losing any of his teeth and if it did he’d heal anyway
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    “Took a car running into him unscathed,”
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    nothing
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    “Took an explosion on multiple occasions,”
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    explosions doesnt even make dante flinch
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    “Takes punches from Jotaros Stand with out being destroyed and thats Dio”
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    How’s that a feat
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    “Yea these are the same,just words until proven,thats why Im reading through Jojos bizarre adventure right now to find the FTL thing,or anything like that”
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    Not really since the description I posted comes from the actual source unlike the datebook which is inconsistent to it ‘s main source

  83. Soldier's Shadow March 24, 2013 at 7:22 pm -      #90

    “He has human durability against piercing and Good Durability against Blunt force, Dio has the ability to freeze him,And shoot beams that will cut through him,Claws that he can use to drain him dry or Infect him”

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    All of these would be great if they could hit Dante in a way that he wouldn’t regenerate from.

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    “So Dante supporters need to find something that SHOWS he is immune to freezing,and freezing all the way through like Dio does”

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    He’d be frozen if Dio hit him. Dante has the mobility and maneuverability over Dio whereas Dio just has reactions on par with Dante.

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    “anyway what’s Dio and his stand durability like? Cause I believe one good shot from dante should end it”

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    The Stand doesn’t really have durability from what I remember and if its harmed, the damage is transferred back to Dio.

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    Dio himself seems to have the same level of durability as Dante. Vulnerable to most forms of damage but heals from most of what hits him.

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    “How strong is said explosion?”

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    Just about enough to knock Dio away. Nothing too spectacular in the DT explosion.

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    The arguments here are vaguely reminding me of those in Kratos vs Sephiroth where it was argued back then that Kratos had the ability to react to Sephiroth but his movement speed could still overwhelm Kratos despite the reactions.

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    Dio has decent enough reactions to fight back but if the two locked blows, Dante could faster get away from any reprisal and counter from there which could result in Dio’s death.

  84. Kitten Lord March 24, 2013 at 7:27 pm -      #91

    What does it take to actually kill Dio again?

  85. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 7:33 pm -      #92

    Finally made it to Arc 3
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    Dio moves from the guys sight while he is lookinh at him
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    www.tenmanga.com/chapter/JojosBizarreAdventure210/158942-14.html
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    www.tenmanga.com/chapter/JojosBizarreAdventure210/158942-15.html
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    www.tenmanga.com/chapter/JojosBizarreAdventure210/158942-17.html
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    “How’s that a feat”
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    The Punches are diamond crushing,and Dios hand wasn’t caved in from the punches
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    “There’s only gameplay since dante doesn’t have a cutscene with the frost”
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    So there is nothing to suggest he ever got hit by one,to give him immunity to freezing
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  86. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 7:36 pm -      #93

    “What does it take to actually kill Dio again?”
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    they killed him by breaking his stand with a powerful hit and then putting his body in the sun so he wouldn’t heal

  87. FactPile God March 24, 2013 at 7:47 pm -      #94

    “The Punches are diamond crushing,and Dios hand wasn’t caved in from the punches”
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    Diamonds aren’t that tough. That can be crush or cut through by ordinary humans.
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    “So there is nothing to suggest he ever got hit by one,to give him immunity to freezing”
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    No but he’s been up agianst it and I never said he had immunity against it just that it wouldn’t wouldn’t faze him. Jonathan was even able to endure his arm being frozen by dio and he’s human
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    “they killed him by breaking his stand with a powerful hit ”
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    Which dante is capable of
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    “then putting his body in the sun so he wouldn’t heal”
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    Dante has Beowulf which should expose Dio to light

  88. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 7:55 pm -      #95

    “Diamonds aren’t that tough. That can be crush or cut through by ordinary humans.”
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    Can Dante break through Diamonds?
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    “No but he’s been up agianst it and I never said he had immunity against it just that it wouldn’t wouldn’t faze him. Jonathan was even able to endure his arm being frozen by dio and he’s human”
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    if he isn’t immune then he will be frozen,if he is frozen then he will be broken,unless proven other wise
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    “Which dante is capable of”
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    For Now I can’t refute this because my internet is spazzin on me, but the punch that hit his was a power full one that landed square on
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    “Dante has Beowulf which should expose Dio to light”
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    is it sun light?

  89. FactPile God March 24, 2013 at 8:07 pm -      #96

    “Can Dante break through Diamonds?
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    I’m pretty sure he has the strength to do so
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    “if he isn’t immune then he will be frozen,if he is frozen then he will be broken,unless proven other wise”
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    Dante should be able to break out of it since he does it in gameplay all the time
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    “is it sun light?”
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    light is light. And Beowulf’s light is referred to as sacred
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    “For Now I can’t refute this because my internet is spazzin on me, but the punch that hit his was a power full one that landed square on”
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    Dante has leveled the side of buildings with one stroke from rebellion and he has hit Nero hard enough that the force from his attack sent everything in the room flying. Dante also has long range attacks with rebellion mangafox.me/manga/devil_may_cry/v01/c005/11.html

  90. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 8:13 pm -      #97

    “I’m pretty sure he has the strength to do so”
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    Well then front the feats
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    “Dante should be able to break out of it since he does it in gameplay all the time”
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    Does he do so in a cut scene or something like that? Because it would have to be a time we are sure he was frozen and he broke out not a time it could or couldn’t have happened like Gameplay
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    light is light. And Beowulf’s light is referred to as sacred”
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    Not all light is light because he can be in Candle light but sunlight kills him,so is it sun light or not?
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  91. sadot06 March 24, 2013 at 8:16 pm -      #98

    Dont forget Dante also has Agni and Rudra, talking devil arms swords. One is infused with fire and the other with tornado-like winds. He also has the Cerberus which are nunchucks he got from killing the ice demon Cerberus. Cerberus is a ranged weapon and has ice power too.

  92. Amm0vamp1r3 March 24, 2013 at 8:18 pm -      #99

    Now all of these weapons,what is Dantes character about using them?

  93. FactPile God March 24, 2013 at 8:24 pm -      #100

    “Does he do so in a cut scene or something like that? Because it would have to be a time we are sure he was frozen and he broke out not a time it could or couldn’t have happened like Gameplay”
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    Gameplay should suffice asproof that dante should be able to break out of ice
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    “Not all light is light because he can be in Candle light but sunlight kills him,so is it sun light or not?”
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    Candle light is fire. Beowulf is light and like I said in my last post light is light

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