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Suggested by Richard Rider
Here we have The Darkness facing off against site favorite, Spawn.
They both know about the other and that they are being hunted.
They finally meet at Grand Central Station in New York.
Okay… Spawn can’t die I think?
But I heard the Darkness can kill you with the darkness in your soul. Wouldn’t that wreck Spawn like a Penance Stare?
Depends what incarnation of Spawn we’re using, since there’s one where Spawn is stronger than both Satan and God…
Incarnation for spawn prease
the all powerful spawn can only be killed by heaven or hell made weapons.
@An English Dragon
Spawn can die, it is just he must be beheaded by a weapon forged in heaven.
Hell weapons do not count.
I need some feats for the darkness because other wise Spawn will take this. “His necroplasm also gives him necro-magic, a variety of supernatural powers including teleportation, phasing, resurrecting the dead, necro-energy blasts, biological manipulation, and much more. He can unleash the very fury of Hell through his body, however his magic is limited by a meter which starts at 9,999 and drains each time he uses his necroplasm. He is able to “feed” off the evil energy of the world including people and “dark animals”
Spawn cannot be killed by the Darkness except if the Darkness is an Angel (equivalent of a mercenary assassin in the Spawn universe), this practically wins the match for Spawn.
I assume this is only the host for the darkness and not the universal being
That is what I was assuming also.
I’d like to point out that The Darkness is still a human, granted a human with the power of Darkness. Now Spawn is no longer human, he is a Hellspawn, which really has almost no limitations since he also does not serve hell anymore.
“Spawn also holds a vast arsenal of military grade weaponry and equipment as he frequently uses firearms as an alternative to his supernatural powers.” since humans are vulnerable to gunfire, I figure that the Darkness would have a hard time even getting close to Spawn, close enough to harm him if he got his hands on a weapon forged in heaven.
I will side with Jackie on this one for now,I will truely decide when spawn is chosen.
Jackie has fought superman,but idk if that was canon.
Can pretty much create anything he wants.Even a giant space ship destroying thing
From the Wiki for those who don’t know:
“In the beginning, there was The Darkness. Then God let the light in and The Universe was created. It began as planets and suns, then Humans began to form. The Darkness was enraged and began inhabiting one Human host after another all through the ages, each host thinking that they were The Darkness’s master. At some point during World War I The Darkness possessed Anthony Estacado and has been passed through the Estacado bloodline ever since.“
This will certainly be a tough battle with the right incarnation of Spawn. If current Simmons, he won’t be able to be BFR-ed considering even at a weaker level, he could travel freely between Heaven, Earth, and Hell with no trouble. As far as I know, Spawn is immortal. He can certainly unleash a lot of damage upon Jackie between soul fucking necroplasm, FTL mobility, and a fuck ton of other powers.
The bigger concern is how can Jackie be killed in his strongest incarnation? Would soul destruction work on Jackie? I have my reservations of saying so considering The Darkness is an everpresent essence. How can one destroy it?
according to an earlier post the god spawn
some feats for the Darkness
uses tentacles to kill a maffia boss
the brotherhood of darkness asks him to join, he kills them with creatures he summons/creates (not real sure)
shapeshifts his body to have a dragon head coming out of his back and kills an Angel Warrior
not combat, but some of the stuff he’s able to do
so the Darkness is a versatile weapon.
Kills more angels and gets Angelus the warrior of light and his equal/opposite to flee to fight another day
said other day
to be continued
beat her by outsmarting her despite all her centuries of experience
Gonna go with Jackie here, The Darkness has the ability to trap people within the portals (lets just call them this for now) he uses to move around in.
Someone has said that Spawn can move around Heaven and Hell with ease, so like Amm0 I am gonna wait till a incarnation is picked before I fight for Jackie.
I was thinking of using King Of Hell Spawn, what incarnation of the Darkness could match him?
I don’t think there is any different incarnations of The Darkness besides the different Hosts
Does the Darkness measure up to King Of Hell Spawn?
I don’t really know king of hell spawn but Jackie came back from nothing but his lower jaw because there was darkness in a cavity in one of the teeth.
Can make Darkness creatures the size of,or larger than space ships .
Can kill you with the Darkness in side of you
Teleport via shadows around.
I don’t know the full perameters but can swallow the universe.
I will be defending Spawn in this match even though I think Darkness is a cooler concept.
That is respectable so,now we know which spawn. I guess we begin
Guardian Angel has posted feats for Jackie further up the page
List of Spawn abilities:
-Hell Blast. – Can melt the gates of heaven.
-Super Strength – I cant calculate I think its around Coleuses level or more.
-Super Speed – Has bien shown to Fly, React, and teleport at vary, extremely high speed.
-Transmute- Like Silver Surfer, he can transmute objects to his will
-Reality Warping- He altered his own reality (himself), As king of hell he can alter reality of hell itself!.
-Super Healing, Has been shown to heal at Deadpool, Hulk, Lobo levels. That’s not bad at all. He dosnt need to use his powers to heal. As long as there is a form of a living person or creature and has don a “Sin” he can use that as a secondary source of power to heal its self.
-His suit- It acts like a symbiote like Venoms only stronger. No weakness so far, and has auto protecting features to aid the host.
-Has Spiderman like senses or Precog thanx to the suit.
-Can teleport, Himself or others to where ever he wants.
-High resistance and damn near absolute Immunity to poisons and such.
-Has to power to make potent poisons.
-Has Psychic powers. So far he can read minds compared to God Like Cable. (Yup he two once linked his mind to all living things on earth to locate a certain someone more than once.)
-Can tolerate high levels of mind fucking.
-His Chains, are nearly indestructible, and acts at the will of his command (Kinda like Shuns from Saint Seiya, but with way more consistent feats.)
- He can do some serious mind fucking similar to Ghost Riders Penace Stare.
- Thanks to his ability to transmutation, he can make potent poises on the tip of his finger nails.
- Decapitation – Supposed to be the only way to definitively kill some Hellspawn.
- Heavenly Forged Weapons, such as Angelic Lances, Whips, Daggers, etc.
- Celestial Fire – Such as that wielded by The Redeemers and The Disciple
- Wiccan Magic – Such as that used by Nyx but he has to be willing to submit to it.
- Heaven – His presence in Heaven, or in safe-zones of Heaven weaken him and his costume because of his nature as a hellborn warrior.
- Greenworld – He has no power in the ethereal realm of Greenworld
Here are some scans of his feats (I’m only going to do 4 per post):
Heals the hole in his chest instantaneously:
Psychological warfare + awesome hologram/light powers:
Spawn is fighting a bigass cyborg. He teleports right through his chest, through five layers of Kevlar armor with a nuke-proof proton-heavy alloy. Yep?.he just bashes through.
Credit for all the above scans and info go to the posters at Narutoforums.com
A heavenly weapon is here right?,if my understanding of the rules are correct
The last scans are broken hope these work:
Creating Machine Guns
Armor protects from bullets
Breathe under water,so any suffocation shouldn’t be a problem
Summons with light sabers
After taking that kind of beating, one simple trick and Spawn is just as good as new.
Turning nothingness into a box of wine bottles. Transmutation through the use of his suit:
Creates a Dragon
Creates a giant
Spawn gets hit by a fifty-millimeter tank stopper.
Becomes ruler of the world and angelus becomes his servant
Moving through shadows
Space ship sized monster
Are we just posting random feats or actually ones that matter? Spawn will destroy any amount of summons Jackie brings out between the amount of strength he possesses, and his raw amounts of power.
Jackie on the other hand seems to have little that can kill Spawn. I have never heard of The Darkness possessing any sort of ability to destroy the soul or heavenly properties like Ghost Rider did in his match-up with Spawn. BFR won’t matter since Spawn can hop dimensions with ease in a weaker incarnation.
I don’t see this match ending as The Darkness seemingly can’t be destroyed, but lacks any real means of harming or killing Spawn.
The Angelus would have been a better match-up in my opinion.
“Are we just posting random feats or actually ones that matter? Spawn will destroy any amount of summons Jackie brings out between the amount of strength he possesses, and his raw amounts of power. ”
Ones that matter on my end,
So far the darkness can summon weapons and monsters ranging from a large amount to a very big one
And Can make clones of him self
“Jackie on the other hand seems to have little that can kill Spawn. I have never heard of The Darkness possessing any sort of ability to destroy the soul or heavenly properties like Ghost Rider did in his match-up with Spawn. BFR won’t matter since Spawn can hop dimensions with ease in a weaker incarnation. ”
Thats were my earlier question,comes would something holy be there?because of that one rule?
“Rips a tank apart also takes a tankshell to do chest without much trouble.”
” Ones that matter on my end,”
Hate to say it, but none of them really do to Spawn.
“would something holy be there?because of that one rule?”
Depends whether this is base Simmons/Downing or Omega Spawn. Omega Spawn would require soul fuckery and that’s still a maybe.
I doubt this is Spawn powered by the Mother otherwise he’d be near omnipotent.
Its king of hell spawn
Then until Jackie gets some soul fuckery, he’s not doing much to Simmons.
What does it take for Jackie to be destroyed?
Well jackie would need to be completely wiped out so he can’t come back. Like I said he came back from nothing but his lower jaw because there was darkness in the cavity of one of his teeth
The Darkness at full power is not present here? Were that the case, this wouldn’t be too hard for Spawn to win as he can incinerate him until there’s nothing left through necroplasm or hellfire.
He’s got an infinite amount of reserves due to his current incarnation and he feeds off of ambient energy as is. Needless to say, The Darkness likely makes Spawn stronger considering his status within his universe.
So what Al simmons stomps? Because to my knowing By the Darkness Jackie Estacado was intended.
If its Spawn (king of hell) vs The Actual darkness then it doesn’t really end, I don’t think
“So what Al simmons stomps? Because to my knowing By the Darkness Jackie Estacado was intended.”
If he’s not the universal entity that can’t be destroyed unless darkness is exterminated (as Kingdom Hearts as it sounds), then Spawn will steam roll him in the King of Hell incarnation.
“If its Spawn (king of hell) vs The Actual darkness then it doesn’t really end, I don’t think”
It wouldn’t hence why I said Angelus would have been a better opponent.
Isn’t spawn FTL?
Between blocking a laser and his teleportation, yes.
The Darkness can create a shield which can withstand fire attacks, not sure about hellfire though:
His armor also withstands an Angelus trying to melt through it:
Again not sure how much more powerful Spawn’s Hellfire is compared to an Angelus’ ability.
“Between blocking a laser and his teleportation, yes”
1. Lasers have a nasty habit of not being FTL in comic books.
2. Teleportation does not make you FTL. It gives you a mobility advantage yes but Jackie can teleport as well..
Further more his form of teleportation will allow him to keep to Spawn’s back at all times. So for now I’m siding with Jackie. If Spawn is in the incarnation that requires heavenly weapons to destroy that weapon is located on the field as per the rules. At that point Spawn really doesn’t have much of a chance here against an opponent who can create anything he so chooses and a million distractions to slow Spawn down.
Also due to the Elemental Compatibility Rule everything Jackie creates should be considered heavenly due to his status of being possessed by one half of creation the other half being The Angelus. Or demonic if you choose to see it that way but either of those would hurt Spawn.
I concur with ReDruM, being able to teleport doesn’t make you FTL, otherwise tons of chars are FTL
Teleportation doesn’t substitute for speed either
So spawn isn’t FTL? Back to the dante vs spawn thread than
No he isn’t FTL, but he is very fast, sometimes it is said that he moves so fast it looks like he is teleporting but he actually isn’t.
“dante vs spawn thread”
“but he is very fast, sometimes it is said that he moves so fast it looks like he is teleporting but he actually isn’t.”
remind you of anyone lol sorry just wanted to point that out
How fast would Spawn be exactly then?
” 2. Teleportation does not make you FTL. It gives you a mobility advantage yes but Jackie can teleport as well..”
Spawn’s is stated to be lightspeed.
“Further more his form of teleportation will allow him to keep to Spawn’s back at all times. So for now I’m siding with Jackie. ”
Spawn has a lightspeed teleport and a time stop on his side. He can stay ahead of Jackie and dispatch his creations in a way where they can’t even defend themselves due to the time stop.
However, I’m not sure if the incarnation of Spawn was ever specified for this match. All of mine are for Simmons. Downing would be crushed.
“So spawn isn’t FTL? Back to the dante vs spawn thread than”
Spawn still anal rapes him with all his powers.
“How fast would Spawn be exactly then?”
Fast enough to outdo machine gun fire and a laser attack. Teleportation and flight are there too.
“Spawn’s is stated to be lightspeed.”
I’m pretty sure his teleporting being light speed doesn’t mean his RT is lightspeed.
The Darkness could just implode Spawn from the inside.
Spawn would comeback from that (I would think)
I shouldn’t have suggested a match with two unkillable characters.
See in thought this is a good match but Spawn has alot of incarnations some very OP and then you have Jackie whos power is only limited by imagination and he has used his imaginantion to make aloooooot of things
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