Published on January 31, 2013, by admin - Posted in Duels 75
Suggested by Chuck inglish
Making his debut on FactPile is Mr Satan (Dragonball Z) facing off against Rorschach (Watchmen).
This battle takes place outside a Morton’s Steakhouse in Philadelphia.
Who would win?
Lol, funniest fight ever. I hope this is Satan in his prime because he became a bit of a b*tch later…
What’s funny is that I totally forgot Mr. Satan has in terms of feats, but I will say this, a pro wrestler fighting with someone who uses lethal force and is extremely proficient at it will lead to some problems for satan.
I just refreshed my memory on Hercule, and I totally forgot he took even casual hits from cell and buu, in addition to this, he has taken countless hits from other saiyans that sent him flying and even breaking walls in the process. With these toughness feats, I think he actually might beat Rorshach in the long run.
Yeah, he survives in the DBZ verse as a normal human, he’s got to have some massive strength and durability compared to more realistic depictions of humans.
Even as one of the weakest fighters in DBZ he can take a bit of damage. I mean he did survive Cell backhanded him really far.
You can’t lose with mr. Satan’s theme www.youtube.com/watch?v=mudZ3QykX10 I swear its like the theme of champions
Even though Hercule acted a bit cowardly in the tournament during Buu Saga that’s only because the Z fighters were involved and he knew what they were really capable of, champ or not who would want to willingly fight any of them if you didn’t have similar abilities?
Hercule was champ for several years, surely not all of it was bought off.
When you look at his durability feats he’s actually very strong. It’s just he tends to be up against guys who are so far into superhuman he hasn’t a chance. I don’t think Rorschach has much of a chance.
Then again so does Rorschach, he is above average strenght and Rorschach is well versed in street combat, gymnastics, and boxing. He is also extremely stoic, as shown by his indifference to pain and discomfort. So he is also above average human condition also.
Im gona have to side with Hercule as well.
The first time that we saw Herculle, he pulled a truck! haha, that is kind strong. His durability is far greater than that of an human that is for sure!
Mr. Satan has the power of having super awesome luck, so I guess he wins.
His title of worlds strongest fighter is likely well deserved, however after the Cell Saga he’s confronted with the fact that he’s running around claiming to be the strongest flea when there’s a gorilla on steroids saving the world when he isn’t looking. It’s the kind of thing that shakes your confidence when it happens right in front of you. And even after that he was willing to when the Z fighters were gone try to confront Buu knowing full well Buu could destroy him with a pinky finger.
Rorschach is skilled but I don’t know if he can really hurt Hercule
Luck really has nothing to do with it, superior skill is more important.
@The Guardian in the TARDIS
I know I was just pointing out that Rorschach is skilled and is above average athletically. I didn’t say that he can hurt Hercule.
Hercule will say this to him..
Son! you are clearly skilled, that is why i have decided! I will take you under my wing and give you the proper training that you need!
Then he will show peace and smile at the crowd of people.
That sounds about right.
I can imagine that Goku will also be at the battlefield since its a Steakhouse. LOL.
Jokes aside, Hercule will be able to put on a nice fight i thing.
Pretty sure Mr. Satan wins.
But Rorschach has a crazy tolerance: wearing just a trench coat and suit in Antartica where it should be at least -10 degrees F.
How well would he take a hit to the nuts?
“But Rorschach has a crazy tolerance: wearing just a trench coat and suit in Antartica where it should be at least -10 degrees F.
How well would he take a hit to the nuts?”
Pretty damn well. He’s taken hits from people stronger than Mr.Satan.
Wile Goku was fighting kid boo, there was a part where boo actually uses a ki blast against Herkule..
In GT, Hercule survived a punch from Omega Shenron (although Omega was playing around).
Can you show the kid buu one?
Honestly those aren’t really showings you can use since it tells us nothing at all.
Well, Laharl has a point. Most of those scenes are for comic relief, they’re not meant to be taken seriously.
“Can you show the kid buu one?”
Even if it was true it couldn’t be used.
Hercule is a slightly above normal human.
He’s not going to be taking any kind of blast from kid buu unless the blast was the equivalent of a gust of wind.
Same for cell, and the non-canon GT shenron
Hercule is the hero that defeated Cell with his fireball attack, he’ll have much less of a problem with Rorschach.
Hercule, feats being comedic or not, may have that going for him, keep in mind he is against Rorschach.
Rorschach is tactfully brilliant as he is able to adapt objects he finds into makeshift weapons. Including his Gas Powered Grappling Hook that could double as a Harpoon Gun.
Hercule can take a punch, but I bet he can still be stabbed.
@The Guardian in the TARDIS
i cant seem to find that part on youtube. i do have all the episodes but then im going to have to go cut that part out first.
it is as Tails111 said. its only for comic relief.
Ill se if i cant cut that part out though..
Mr. Satan punched through a bus and was able to pull 2 busses on back.
Yea Rorshach gets his shit rocked, Mr.Satan takes this
Unless there is something I forgot about Rorshach
Mr. Satan feats
IIRC Satan is not very fast. And while he can take punches can he survive being stabbed?
didn’t they show hercule measure his punching strength in one episode
In the World of DragonBall Z, Mr.Satan is the best fighter in the world (that has not mastered the use of KI), I know M.Satan is to be taken as a comedy character but he isn’t going up against an opponent that gets the comedy factor out of him, perhaps in this fight we will see him go serious and all out.
i know its non canon but since its hercule XD he single handedly beat the hell out of a bunch of zombies in one of the movies
Well, I’m assuming that we’re using the anime Mr. Satan, so the films should still count.
lol Im going with Hercule..
In a straight up, no weapons match Mr. Satan would easily defeat Rorschach.
Mr. Satan survived getting hit by Cell,
and he won a bunch of World Fighting Championships without cheating.
He also trained his daughter Videl who (while stronger that Mr. Satan), is strong enough to fly with little training.
Rorschach’s only hope would be to get in a dirty shot or sucker punch and then wail on him. But Hercule would dodge it because of his high reflexes, or just absorb the hit, even if it was a surprise.
And that is in spite of the fact that Rorschach is smarter and dirtier that Mr. Satan.
Mr. Satan is waiting in line for food. Rorschach cuts in line and threatens to beat up the cashier because he thinks she might have info on a criminal or something.
Mr. Satan goes up and tells Rorschach to stop or he will face the might of a world champ (then he flexes).
Rorschach knows who Hercule is and how strong he is. Rorschach tells Mr. Satan that the girl is evil and then lies by saying that since Mr. Satan is so smart he should know this. Mr. Satan falls for this and turns around to brag to everyone, but that he will apprehend the cashier instead.
At this moment Rorschach rushes to kick him in the nuts but Hercule uses his decades of martial arts reflexes, sees it coming and does a spinning kick.
Rorschach gets up and throws a chair at Mr. Satan. He deflects is but Rorschach gets close and tries to use his index and middle finger to poke out Mr. Satan’s eyes. But he blocks it with his hand and punches him a shit load of times. Rorschach tries to block them but misses some and the others force their way through.
Rorschach falls to the ground stone cold. Mr. Satan turns around, brags about how he is the greatest, and the cashier quietly sneaks out, rips off her cashier’s uniform to reveal a skimpy and inappropriate femme fatale costume, laugh manically, and runs off.
lol! while that movie script was entertaining and all, i dont think that is what will happen. as was stated Rorschach has abnormal strength and can take a punch.
He also wields a weapon witch would makes things more difficult for Hercule..
Although most of the Hercule feats were meant for comic relief he sure is a power person. stronger that humans that i can say..
He sure can take a punch..
137 kg per feet?
That is pretty average. Hercules can pratically take punches, but not give them.
Mike Tyson was know to punch at 300psi.
if you look close it says Hercule got 137 pts not psi in that scan, I don’t know if that’s the same as psi or not.
I guess Mr. Satan is cooler than we all thought.
Isn’t he like a bullet timer? I feel like when he was dealing with that one gunman he dodged a bullet or something, I could be wrong though.
Mr.Stan got shot once.
Mr.Satan got shot once.
Double post, sorry.
I dont know about any dodging bullets scenes, but he did dodge two of Kid Buu’s attacks.
witch is faster than bullets imo. lol
I ask because on the DBZ wiki (which I’m taking with a grain of salt) it said he had super speed and mentioned an incident with a gunman as evidence.
piccolos flick is 100pts for what thats worth
that’s the thing though what is pts?
absolutely no idea but i’m just saying a piccolo flick is 100
“Mr.Stan got shot once.”
Anyone figure out what pts is yet? I couldn’t find anything.
I can’t find anything either
really kind of bugging me now.
I was thinking it was a typo of psi but nothing says that
well if it says the same on Piccolo’s it can’t be. It has to be something I just don’t know.
This is all i have found. And I dont know which one it is
The only thing that has anything to do with punching is: Punch Through Stop. But idk what that means
For the super speed feat, check my post #32- move back and forth a couple pages to see the its context.
And for my last post, since it is Japan it could easily be 137 kg.
Then again, we don’t know if its per feet, or per inch, per meter.
wow pretty impressive speed for a pretty well normal human (in DBZ anyway) so he should be able to dodge Rorschach’s attacks, or some anyway.
This match is honestly really fun, just a quick to the point match.
and mainly I was just wondering if pts meant something specific like their version of psi or something.
Since the manga scans are usually scanlations, they’re not all that reliable. Finding a japanese version may provide a better idea of what the unit for 137 is.
Just for better clarification:
Random contestant scores:
112 (Best one yet out of 77 contestants)
Found this also where Videl says the punch record was 139. Something to think about.
Maybe it’s just their way of measuring psi, like when they use power levels and stuff.
“Anyone figure out what pts is yet? I couldn’t find anything.”
Pretty sure it stands for Points.
I think you’re right!
Man, now I feel dumb for not getting that…
But to be fair, no one else guessed that either!
“well if it says the same on Piccolo’s it can’t be.”
So where do we stand on this fight. Can we call for an FP award for Mr. Satan?
SATAN! SATAN! SATAN!
Yeah…I can imagine parents reactions to that being his name back when the episodes featuring him were broadcast on air…
+1 for Mr. Satan.
+2 for Mr. Satan.
Also, GuardianAngel, Tarbel, Amm0vamp, and WhiteHomie also seem to be voting for Mr. Satan.
That equals 6 votes.
Having reviewed this thread, I’m saying +1 for the guy who can punch through metal, drag buses, and move faster than the eye can follow (though in fairness, I can’t remember how much of that was anime-only).
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