Suggested By Guardianangel1911
The scenario is as the following:
The Infinity Gauntlet and Gems land on a parallel earth, causing Thanos to follow, the gems and Gauntlet become scattered around the city of Metroplis, the gauntlet being found and placed in the museum. Thanos the Mad Titan and Deaths Consort arrives on this new Earth and sets up a cosmic field sealing off the Justice League except for one hero, Superman the Man of Steel remains inside the city he has sworn to protect. Only he remains between the Mad Titan and ultimate power. Only he can save Earth, and the universe.
Superman is Pre New 52 incarnation Thanos is his current/most recent incarnation.
Thanos doesn’t auto win just by completing the gauntlet, this is a fight to the death.
Which super power will win?
Thanos.
Whoah! Finally, a good match!
I’m going with Superman. Not only is NOT from the reboot, but since we’re using the most recent Thanos incarnation, that means we’re using the one from the Assemble comics. And he looked like a punk there.
@tails
I was about to say the same thing, finally a match I can sink my teeth into. Although, I agree with murder, Thanos in almost any scenario I can think of takes this. The only way Thanos might not win is if they were fighting near the surface of the sun, then superman would probably be to hard to kill until Thanos realized the sun was his source of power then he would think of something…
@tails for the purposes of this match if Thanos’s current incarnation hasn’t shown off his powers then then I think we are allowed to assume he is equivalent to his second most recent incarnation and so on. But I’m not familiar with the most recent Thanos, could you fill me in?
From what i know i have to sat Thanos
@Crimson Sentry
In his most recent appearance, in Avengers Assemble issue 8 I believe, Thanos, despite being “all-powerful”, looks like A CHUMP THE WHOLE ISSUE!
For more details, read this review: www.comicvine.com/avengers-assemble-clash-with-a-titan/37-362182/avengers-assemble-8/92-704249/
But yeah. That issue was hard to read.
I just read about the whole cosmic cube bit, that’s worse than Reed Richards pulling out the Ultimate Nullifier on Galactus, which is uber hax already to an extreme level.
If this is current Thanos, I’d have no opinion on this as I know little of him.
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Before that, and barring the Gauntlet being in play, he’d likely defeat Superman between his energy manipulation that stalemated a being like Odin as well as his psychokinetic abilities that worked even on Galactus.
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does the feild keeping out the rest of the justice league also keep out sunlight? if so, this match is much shorter. im with a close fight slightly in supermans favor out of the gate here, but hey, this match is still young.
sweet my match got posted, or one of them did. Thank you Hitman.
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Personally if I had to pick I’d say Thanos can match Superman in combat, being a planet buster, it should be noted that Thanos is also looking for the gauntlet and gems during the match though so he’s not totally worried about pimpsmacking the Kryptonian.
@Hac148
sunlight gets in, otherwise Thanos would just bitchslap Supermans head off likely.
@Tails111
Thanos in the Avengers Assemble was really only defeated by Plot Induced Stupidity (PIS) and Writer Induced Stupidit (WIS).
Plus Thanos feats were never retconned.
Thanos kills Silver Surfer in a few punches:
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A nourished Galactus having to EXERT himself to take out his shield:
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Tanks hits from a bloodlusted Thor with the Power Gem and SMILES:
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This is what will happen to Superman:
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Credit for the above scans go to Lord_Moldemvort from Comic Vine.
The way I’m understand this is Thanos does not have the gauntlet in his possession and is actively searching for it while having to face an angry superman who for match purposes is trying to kill him. I’m going with Superman at the moment.
Not quite Superman isn’t pissed or anything. Just his normal stop the villian attitude, just sooner or later he’ll realize this is s Darkseid/Doomsday threat. He’s not bloodlusted though. but yes Thanos is looking for the gems and gauntlet but he has the rough location of each.
I did debate Lois having one of the gems but I thought that was too much.
“Not quite Superman isn’t pissed or anything. Just his normal stop the villian attitude, just sooner or later he’ll realize this is s Darkseid/Doomsday threat. He’s not bloodlusted though. but yes Thanos is looking for the gems and gauntlet but he has the rough location of each.
I did debate Lois having one of the gems but I thought that was too much.”
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1. So you’re saying he’s going to treat him like a villain he can capture first instead of trying to take his head off from the get go? That’s not very fair. Especially when he’s trying to assemble a weapon that could possibly kill him on completion.
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2. Does Superman know about the gauntlet? At the very least that could give him the advantage since he could go for those first and with his X-ray vision and super hearing and all that he can likely find it first
Just to clarify Thanos won’t stop till he’s dead and Supes has no way to just restrain him so its a no optoon type deal.
This is the last thing Superman will see before its lights out:
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@ReDruM
He knows Thanos is like Darkseid or Doomsday and he’s looking for a powerful artifact but not what the gems look like. He does know where the gauntlet is though.
@Soldier’s Shadow
Is that Lucifer Morningstar Gravatar?
“He knows Thanos is like Darkseid or Doomsday and he’s looking for a powerful artifact but not what the gems look like. He does know where the gauntlet is though.”
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If he knows where the gauntlet is can he hide it so Thanos won’t know where it is since that’s the logical thing to do or does Thanos have a tracking device on it. If not Superman can hide the thing where it would take Thanos years to find it giving Superman plenty of time to fight the thing.
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And I’m not following you. He knows that Thanos is as dangerous as Darkseid, not quite as dangerous as Doomsday, yet he’s not going to try to kill him?
Superman is tough but not that tough he should be able to keep thanos at bay but he’ll never kill him, which will most likey get superman knocked unconcious while thanos to get the he needs and kills superman
Superman is tough but not that tough he should be able to keep thanos at bay but he’ll never kill him, which will most likey get superman knocked unconcious while thanos to get the he needs and kills superman ???????
@ReDrum
if he would normally go for the kill against Darkseid then ignore what I said, I didn’t realize he always went straight for the kill with him
double post
I don’t see superman really causing damage to thanos since thanos has tanked far more damaging attacks which put superman’s attacks to shame
And the guy can dissolve molecules for Christ’s sake
unless superman is at full power then there is no chance of him defeating thanos
@ReDruM
also yeah, Thanos has a trace on the gauntlet and gems, so Supes would need to stay on him like glue which he likely would.
i’d have to say thanos on this one
“also yeah, Thanos has a trace on the gauntlet and gems, so Supes would need to stay on him like glue which he likely would.”
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So Thanos got pretty much every advantage huh?
Okay, then he only has a trace on the gauntlet and has a general idea of where the gems are.
I’m debating whether or not to actually debate this… The only advantage I see is that Supes would try to speed blitz. But if he’s treating it how he treats a villain powerful he only be trying to wear him down instead of having the intent to kill. So he won’t be going to go all out.
If it helps any Superman is kind of like a Darksied/Thanos threat himself to superheroes
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“Okay, then he only has a trace on the gauntlet and has a general idea of where the gems are.”
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Well if he gets the gauntlet then he would already have the location of the gems… or was it just the gems that are attracted to each other and the then the gauntlet when they all come together?
Also I just looked up info about the Gauntlet. Apparently the Gauntlets only work inside the universe they are created in. Thus the Gauntlet is a non-issue in Metroplis anyway. So its basically just a 1 on 1 fight between Thanos and Superman. Now make it fair and make it so Superman doesn’t hold back cause it seems like you are trying to stack the deck a little bit in Thanos favor.
Okay, for this fight, Superman won’t hold back then, didn’t mean to stack the deck, and for this fight the gauntlet does work, otherwise Supes wouldn’t have anything to worry about.
“Okay, for this fight, Superman won’t hold back then, didn’t mean to stack the deck, and for this fight the gauntlet does work, otherwise Supes wouldn’t have anything to worry about”
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If that’s the case I can see Superman winning since he’s faster. Plus if push comes to shove he can too use the gauntlet against Thanos since his X-Ray vision will allow him to locate it and the gems since according to you he knows that’s what Thanos is after thus he will likely go after it to keep Thanos off of it.
The question is would he be able to find the gems when he doesn’t know what they look like, and would he use it on Thanos or would he try to destroy it.
not saying Superman is as dense as Hulk but…
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mind control, and that’s not even with the mind gem.
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isn’t even bothered by an exploding Hellicarier
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and….is really hard to kill and good at destoying people like Drax
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and I just realized this post may not go through anytime soon.
Okay why does the site not like links anymore. Seriously.
@GuardianAngel1911
Right,Although he may not know he could keep them away from thanos.
well he doesn’t know what the gems look like, or what they do.
and seriously I hate that there’s always moderation on any post with multiple links now. it’s obnoxious.
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eye blasts knock out Thing and stagger Thor, he says enough would knock Thor out, so he should be able to give Supes problems, that way
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“If that’s the case I can see Superman winning since he’s faster”
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Thanos has reacted to surfer whom was moving at FTL speed. So speed means nothing here. Besides thanos has tricks under his sleeves
” Is that Lucifer Morningstar Gravatar?”
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Why yes it is. Luci’s one of my favorites.
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“The question is would he be able to find the gems when he doesn’t know what they look like, and would he use it on Thanos or would he try to destroy it.”
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You said it yourself, Supes would stick on him like glue and once he realizes Thanos is after the Gems, he can always follow him and snatch them before him considering he does have a faster movement speed. Combined with X-Ray vision, he could locate them himself as well since he can cover more ground than the Titan unless Thanos can teleport or increase his movement somehow like Darkseid.
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Also, on Superman using the Gauntlet against Thanos, it is possible. It could exist in the same vein as the Phantom Zone projector for him, possibly.
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I vote Thanos because he’s
A-> stronger. It was said he can destroy planets with punches and he beat the **** out of Silver Surfer with his bare hands.
B-> faster. The surfer is FTL and he could fight him no problem. He can also teleport.
C-> more durable. He tanked hits from Odin and Galactus, who are both vastly more powerful than superman as far as I know ( which admittedly isn’t that far but still ). Oh and he has fast regen too.
D-> smarter. I *might* be wrong on that one ( but I’m pretty sure of myself ), superman never came across as particularly clever to me, while Thanos creates extremely advanced technology and is knowledgeable in most if not all fields of science.
Put on top of that cosmic level psionic power, matter manipulation and energy projection powerful enough to knock pantheon gods around or even kill them.
Everyones worried about Thanos getting to the Gauntlet and Gems … These arent even a factor really … Unless Supes finds them and figures out how to use them against Thanos … Thanos vs Supes in a straight up match … Thanos has this easily … As Grim said in the previous comment … He has Supes beat all around … Especially in the smarts area … That combine with the fact hes almost the personification of evil … Equals a defeated Supes
I think I’ll have to side with Thanos on this one.
“I *might* be wrong on that one ( but I’m pretty sure of myself ), superman never came across as particularly clever to me”
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Superman is super smart. Probably because his superbrain plus the fact that he is part of an advanced species and contains an entire archive of their knowledge. Coupled with super reading. Though don’t think he’s Thanos level smart.
It’s been shown he can get pretty clever when it’s remembered he’s an highly intelligent alien whose good at a job that revolves around investigative skill.
“Thanos has reacted to surfer whom was moving at FTL speed. So speed means nothing here. Besides thanos has tricks under his sleeves”
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Superman is not FTL. He’s multiple times FTL depending on the incarnation in use which was never specified. Thus until otherwise stated he is faster then Thanos by a extremely large degree. As for mind tricks Superman is extremely mentally resistant.
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“A-> stronger. It was said he can destroy planets with punches and he beat the **** out of Silver Surfer with his bare hands. ”
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So can Superman
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“B-> faster. The surfer is FTL and he could fight him no problem. He can also teleport.”
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Superman is faster then the Surfer. Teleportation is an advantage.
“more durable. He tanked hits from Odin and Galactus, who are both vastly more powerful than superman as far as I know ( which admittedly isn’t that far but still ). Oh and he has fast regen too.”
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Yet Wolverine ripped into him with his claws so he’s not that durable.
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“smarter. I *might* be wrong on that one ( but I’m pretty sure of myself ), superman never came across as particularly clever to me, while Thanos creates extremely advanced technology and is knowledgeable in most if not all fields of science.
Put on top of that cosmic level psionic power, matter manipulation and energy projection powerful enough to knock pantheon gods around or even kill them.”
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As Lowk said people tend to forget that Clark comes from a scientifically advanced species with an entire archive of their knowledge. He learns at an extreme rate because his brain processes information at FTL speeds.
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This depends on which incarnation we use. If we use Pre-Crisis Superman. If its Post-Crisis Thanos. Its that simple. Pre-Crisis supes can destroy a solar system with a sneeze. I don’t think Thanos is quite that powerful. So what will it be.
Also is it me or is this site getting less populated and boring as hell. Every time I come back here its empty.
@Praetor Prefect
Is that.. Dr.Mcninja/luchador?
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So found these
Supes being subject to reality warping keeps coming
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When Superman gets serious he can do some crazy shit like blows shattering time/space
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That’s about all I got For Supes.
“Also is it me or is this site getting less populated and boring as hell. Every time I come back here its empty.”
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Might be the time or the matches. I think Factpile gotten like three or four new members but this might not be their type of match.
You have to be a true comic book reader to really gauge the outcome of this match.
I’m not.
But I found an interesting article about superman’s strength that I’d like to share:
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Let’s remind ourselves of pre-crisis superman abilities though..
“Superman is not FTL. He’s multiple times FTL ”
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So is surfer.
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“Superman is faster then the Surfer.”
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debateable
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“Yet Wolverine ripped into him with his claws so he’s not that durable.”
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Adamantium claws cut through anything even superman would be cut
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“He learns at an extreme rate because his brain processes information at FTL speeds.”
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No just no super speed yes but not ftl
It’s only really fair if its either 1000000 supes or pre crisis supes
““He learns at an extreme rate because his brain processes information at FTL speeds.”
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No just no super speed yes but not ftl”
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His proceesses fast enough towatch things happening at lightspeed
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Also can make complete thoughs in the span of a nanosecond
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Also I recall an instance of him blocking kryptonite lasers with a mirror. Which if I recall correctly how kryptonite works and how fast radiation travels should make it a legitimate feat, right? Just have to find it.
Also is it me or is this site getting less populated and boring as hell. Every time I come back here its empty.
) and noticed a population drop when I came back.
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I noticed a general empty feeling too…
I took a break for week or so (for those of you that missed me
Wow. To be honest, I was expecting everyone to vote for Superman, but reading the comments, it seems that almost everyone is actually going for Thanos. Surprises happen, I guess.
I took 3 weeks off and i still feel sort of like this site could be better instead of being dull and boring. somtimes
“So is surfer.”
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How fast exactly is he?
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“Adamantium claws cut through anything even superman would be cut”
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No it doesn’t. Adamntium cannot cut through magical substances, force fields(which Superman depending on the incarnation is covered with which is what gives him his durability), adamantium, Vibranium, Thor’s Hammer, etc etc. Thus Superman wouldn’t be cut by the claws. He would have to wear down the field in the same way Doomsday did.
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“No just no super speed yes but not ftl”
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As Lowk said he is fast enough to watch things move at FTL speeds thus he can processes information at that speed. He’d have to or else he wouldn’t be able to plot his courses during interstellar flight.
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Anyway like I said before it depends entirely on incarnation. If its Pre-Crisis Thanos stands no chances since Superman can juggle planets and travel galaxies in seconds. If its Post-Crisis I’d probably give it to Thanos. Superman Prime rapes him.
“Might be the time or the matches. I think Factpile gotten like three or four new members but this might not be their type of match.”
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I mean in general. Perhaps its because the matches but I’ve noticed that most of the new matches posted don’t break 100 comments.
RDA VS. Helgast anyone?
It’s Post Crisis, or at least that’s the version I said to begin with since that’s his incarnation before N52.
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on the stuff with the site, I think it’s a combo of the matches being posted and a drop in how many people are online at any one time.
@G.A.
Like the new avatar
and i agree with
“a combo of the matches being posted and a drop in how many people are online at any one time.”
@Fallstar
thanks, my way of going into mourning for mainstream Peter Parker, till he retakes his rightful place as the One True Incredible Amazing Spectacular Spider-Man(yes I’m going to keep calling him that till Inferior Octaviusman is gone) Only upside is apparently Pete is in the back of Octavius’s mind and I’m hoping that means we’ll get him bitchslapping Ocatvius’s soul to hell in an epic battle in the center of the mind. If that happens it might be worth it.
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Your avatars pretty cool looking, who are the characters in it?
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It’s hard to deny that not many people have really got into matches lately, and to be honest I really expected this match to be more heated, the inability to just post freaking links doesn’t help. I know Lowk posted some right before you but till about five hours pass we may never see them. Which lags down debating because points can’t be addressed thoroughly because they don’t post.
hard to want to post when you know the links won’t let it show up for god knows how long. Single links work but hard to get a point across with that sometimes and you can’t address multiple arguments in a post then.
@G.A.
Wait what happened to peter???
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its Kotomine Shirou and his Servant Assassin (Semiramis, wise queen of Assyria) from the new light novel Fate/ Apocrypha
wich contains 15 new servants
this is the full image
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why not post the links in the topia and just link to there?
@Fallstar
the Dying Octavius switched their bodies, no one knew, he started running around Pete tries to get his body back but dies after a final punch from Octavius Peter but not before he makes Octavius Peter relive all the worst moments of Peter Parkers life to realize why he fought, and Octavius then decides to be a hero and that he’ll be a Superior Spider-Man and make Pete look inferior in other words. Meanwhile the man Cable said would be remembered as the worlds greatest hero dies….in the corpse of one of his greatest foes, no one knows, no one is able to give him a memorial, nothing.
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cool, I really need to get into that series.
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Wouldn’t it be easier just to debate the match there in that case though?
Anyone recognize my avatar?
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@GA1911w/M&KS
How long before the writers revive the old Peter Parker Spiderman (like when Bane was supposed to kill Bruce Wayne)
@G.A.
sound intresting i should really start reading comics again, i stopped a few years ago, iirc around the time doom took over wakanda
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its a good serise i can likn you to the prequal novel if you want.
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@Praetor
Not sure, but some artwork shows Octavius Peter using guns, which is like Batman or the Doctor using guns.
@Fallstar
Personally think it was a waist of a plot that could be good, Spidey and Otto struggling to save Otto and him struggling to be a hero in his new lease on life.
But theres a thread to discuss it on the topia in the marvel comics section.
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Sure, that’d be great
“How fast exactly is he?”
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“No it doesn’t. Adamntium cannot cut through magical substances, force fields(which Superman depending on the incarnation is covered with which is what gives him his durability), adamantium, Vibranium, Thor’s Hammer, etc etc. Thus Superman wouldn’t be cut by the claws. He would have to wear down the field in the same way Doomsday did.”
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The only superman I remember having that bio electric field is all star superman whom we’re not using. The one we’re using doesn’t have it
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“f its Post-Crisis I’d probably give it to Thanos. Superman Prime rapes him.”
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We’re using post crisis
@GA
Here you go
www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Fate/Zero
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On another note I just found out my local used book store has all the Dresden files books so I’m going to be starting that by the end of the week
@Fallstar
awesome thanks.
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Cool, enjoy the books while they last, once you start reading them you forget how many books there are before you hit the last one out so far. It’s a great series though so it’s very worth it.
@NKB at #70
Kiritsugu’s Boss, not gonna lie.
Onto the matter at hand as we have a thread for in-depth on my thoughts.
How come a fight like this isn’t getting much love from the general public, lately?
I might have understood the earlier fights with Dresden, or even most of the dot hack-involved fights, but this is a Marvel vs DC fight at play so you’d think it should have been less dry in atmosphere, lately.
Any ideas, guys?
Thanos got this easily.
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He routinely fights people way above Superman’s weight class.
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Such as motherfucking Galactus.
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Galactus can’t even see him, can only detect the stench of his soul.
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You better bet that’ll make him invisible to Supes.
“You better bet that’ll make him invisible to Supes.”
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lol, Even to soul vision? Cuz for some reason Superman has soul vision…
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doesn’t that only let him see an aura of someone he’s looking at? Seems like it would require him focusing on the person at that exact moment and xray vision attempts would be easier.
“Anyone recognize my avatar?”
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A ninja-doctor disguised as a wrestling-doctor that punches cars and surfed a robot dracula from the moon.
“doesn’t that only let him see an aura of someone he’s looking at? Seems like it would require him focusing on the person at that exact moment and xray vision attempts would be easier.”
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Firstly wasn’t actually being serious
Secondly, his vision modes aren’t really that difficult all he’d have to do is sweep the area with all of his vision modes on.
Thirdly, for some reason that post was sent to early.. Stupid touch screen.
I was going to debate this, but, considering my lack of knowledge on Thanos, I’m just watching for now.
@Redrum
“Anyway like I said before it depends entirely on incarnation. If its Pre-Crisis Thanos stands no chances since Superman can juggle planets and travel galaxies in seconds. If its Post-Crisis I’d probably give it to Thanos. Superman Prime rapes him.”
I would have brought this up if no one else did.
“I mean in general. Perhaps its because the matches but I’ve noticed that most of the new matches posted don’t break 100 comments.”
I’ve noticed too. It depends though. Different matches that bring different pilers out are cool though. It’s always nice to see old faces again, brought back to debate new topics.
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basically no sells several Avengers.
So Thanos wins this and there is no need for a devils advocate?
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And factpile has been dead,it could be the end or it could be the matchs, i mean if you look at the last 10 or so matchs they have been boring. Master chief vs Gir,come on really?
If someone wants to play devils advocate just to get Thanos the award, I don’t think Thanos stomps, well hope he doesn’t.
course….Thanos did tank an attack from the Fallen One (a Herald tier being) that vaporized his ship and just stood there slightly messed up clothes…smirking then blasted the guy. Thanos is apparently a master of the No Sell.
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I will post stuff just to do so.Because this was the best thread posted since like idk.
@Amm0
okay, sounds good.
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Heat vision is very bright,blindingly so
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Can measure how hot stars are but not how hot super mans heat vision is
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In this pic his power is waning under a red sun, but he still summoned enough Heat Vision to successfully power Jor-ELs planet-moving ion engines. The in this case had a mass 16 times that of Earth’s.
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right…that..might give Thanos issues. But he did no sell Captain Marvel.
and Heat Vision does drain his solar reserves so while the sun is still in play not the best idea to push his power too much.
So superman has an infinate mass punch,can thanos tank that,i really dont know
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He can labotomize people with his heat vision
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Can vibrate particles to dodge attacks,and become invisible
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Superman and G. Zod blows are so devastating that they are creating earthquakes and the planet is falling apart. And he was still holding back while fighting under a red sun.
check post 37, dude has Wolverine level regen. heat vision lobotomy likely won’t do shit, Superman would need to bust out planet busting levels of heatvision to slow Thanos down.
I was thinking the labotomy was to slow him down,like he did doomsday i think.
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but those are all the feats i got,i dont like super man enough to be the best devils advocate
I’m not sure if Supes heatvision could do the lobotomy thing now that I think….he had to burn through Doomsday, and Thanos is so dense Vision had to become nearly atoms to fuck with him. And still got pimp slapped while intangible. Plus Thanos has his own eyebeams (eyebeam fight mayhaps?)
Thanos is basically Darkseid, but worse, he doesn’t give a rats ass about conquest he want’s power and carnage….and maybe to fuck death on the side occasionally if he feels like fucking her……and so he wouldn’t try to convince Superman to join him after Supes got in his way…..he’d just commence to beating Superman down.
in fact Thanos heat vision or whatever you want to call it……..
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might give Supes something to sweat…..since Thor is able to stand in stars just as easily as Superman and well…..that happened.
Wow, lots of new activity, I`ve been kinda busy, also had that thing where you cough and sneeze and your head hurts. Think I saw some replies to my points but since I’m a lazy bitch just gonna make ( sorta ) new points that roughly answer back to my repliers.
1- Not directly so but still relevant, am not a comics buff but still have at least some vague knowledge of most comic characters.
2-By my estimations, Surfer is 100s of 1000s if not millions of times FTL, I highly doubt any version of superman is THAT fast.
3- Matter manipulation pretty much equals insta-win against anything made of matter unless the target also has it, preferably to an equivalent or higher degree. Big blue doesn’t
4- Superman relies on singular stars for energy, Thanos fights universal level cosmic beings and stuff, I mean, come on now.
@Grim Aran at #94
1.) (Fair enough!)
2.) (Most versions of Superman Below Silver Age!-Superman’s level aren’t, the ones that are at that level, well…low-balling says they can cross the universe via minutes, fair to warn you if what I hear in Thor vs Goku’s correct.
3.) (Most versions don’t, Superman Prime from the Infinite Crisis Trilogy has it and that’s not the particular version being used as far as I know.
4.) (Okay, with most versions of Supes, you got me there!)
“By my estimations, Surfer is 100s of 1000s if not millions of times FTL, I highly doubt any version of superman is THAT fast.”
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Both pre-crisis and post crisis have showings that out them at massively ftl.
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“Matter manipulation pretty much equals insta-win against anything made of matter unless the target also has it, preferably to an equivalent or higher degree. Big blue doesn’t”
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Well he has resisted it before seeing as they don’t manage to turn him into salt
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“Superman relies on singular stars for energy, Thanos fights universal level cosmic beings and stuff, I mean, come on now.”
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Isn’t that normally with the infinity gauntlet? Otherwise he shouldn’t lose to Galactus…
superman doesn’t kill. never has, unless extremely pissed off (or a black lantern). i hate to say that Thanos would kill Supes
That PIS is removed in fights one here.
PIS/CIS both, this being the latter, but what Amm0 said.
Also welcome to the site.
Thank you for the correction,G.A