Magneto, Dr. Doom, Palaptine & Angelus Vs Angron, Sensui, Wonder Circe & Kerrigan

Suggested By Soldier’s Shadow

We have villains from many different universe teaming up for a brawl!

For this match the battle takes place on LV-426 from Aliens.

Palpatine is Dark Empire incarnation. Dr. Doom has one hour of prep time.

Which group of villains will win?

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208 Comments on "Magneto, Dr. Doom, Palaptine & Angelus Vs Angron, Sensui, Wonder Circe & Kerrigan"

  1. GuardianAngel1911 with Mjolnir and the Odinsword December 3, 2012 at 8:07 am -      #1

    I’m going for the team with the combo of Doom Magneto and Palpatine.

  2. Hermit December 3, 2012 at 8:13 am -      #2

    Going by Battlecruiser drawings, Kerrigan can decimate things that are at least a few hundred meters long and a hundred meters wide.
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    images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb58378/starcraft/images/4/4b/DylarShipyards_SC2_Art1.jpg

  3. GuardianAngel1911 with Mjolnir and the Odinsword December 3, 2012 at 8:24 am -      #3

    true, but Magneto can affect metal things that size in his sleep, Doom was almost as powerful as sorcerer supreme Dr. Strange, and Palpatine is EU Palpatine meaning one of the more powerful force users ever.

  4. Ruliya (With The Infinity Gauntlet) December 3, 2012 at 8:24 am -      #4

    From initial looks, I’m going to go with Team 1. I don’t know half of team 2.

  5. Murder December 3, 2012 at 8:25 am -      #5

    Hmmm Doom with an hour prep… Might only be enough to take out angron and kerrigan.

  6. GuardianAngel1911 with Mjolnir and the Odinsword December 3, 2012 at 8:32 am -      #6

    @Murder
    maybe, but that’s still half their team, Palpatine likely is able to fry at least one of the survivors with his Force powers, Magneto if they have metal on them can do all kinds of nasty things.
    Angelus…I don’t know.

  7. Hermit December 3, 2012 at 8:34 am -      #7

    The only other feat Kerrigan has going for her (that I know), is mind-controlling several billion individual minds across light years,

  8. Praetor Prefect (I Wear a Fez Now. Fezzes are Cool) December 3, 2012 at 8:37 am -      #8

    Palpatine Force Storm solos. Doom with prep out-Magnificent Bastard’s everyone

  9. GuardianAngel1911 with Mjolnir and the Odinsword December 3, 2012 at 8:46 am -      #9

    I don’t know we should wait till some people defend team 2 before saying Force Storm solo’s

  10. GuardianAngel1911 with Mjolnir and the Odinsword December 3, 2012 at 8:49 am -      #10

    this…is actually kind of interesting
    Magneto zapping Storm with lightning
    img198.imageshack.us/img198/4638/magbettercontroloflightingthen.jpg

  11. Praetor Prefect (I Wear a Fez Now. Fezzes are Cool) December 3, 2012 at 8:51 am -      #11

    Just kidding :P
    But I only know 2 on team 2 (Angron & Kerrigan) and 3 on team 1 (Doom, teh Emprah, and Swagneto)

  12. GuardianAngel1911 with Mjolnir and the Odinsword December 3, 2012 at 8:53 am -      #12

    I don’t even know that many on team 2.
    Team 1 seems pretty near op though, only reason it’s not a stomp is cause Doom can’t summon Mephisto to play ball on their team due to outside help and all that.

  13. GuardianAngel1911 with Mjolnir and the Odinsword December 3, 2012 at 8:58 am -      #13

    Magneto discussing his training against telepathy even without his helmet and reverses gravity for 500 feet (pretty damn impressive really)
    img285.imageshack.us/img285/2884/magreflectspsychicpowerandreve.jpg
    ———–
    pointed out the telepathy thing because of Kerrigan being mentioned to have that.
    Magneto between his training and helmet should be good though. Doom is to arrogant to serve someone elses will and is probably too powerful and likely too well trained to subvert his will. Palpatine is pretty damn powerful and can likely resist telepathy though not sure on him.
    So Kerrigan’s other impressive feat may not help them. Unless Angelus is weak and can be controlled.

  14. GuardianAngel1911 with Mjolnir and the Odinsword December 3, 2012 at 9:38 am -      #14

    during the contest for Sorcerer Supreme when most of the contestants aside from Strange and Doom were hypnotized Doom was one of the last two wizards standing along with Strange who was impressed with Doom with Doom also admitting that he was impressed by Dr. Strange, keep in mind that it’s Doom talking a man not easily impressed.
    i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomSorcery13TriumphTorment1.jpg
    i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomSorcery14TriumphTorment1.jpg
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  15. Bosse323 December 3, 2012 at 9:50 am -      #15

    Is this post-herrasy when Angron is the Daemon Prince at all?

  16. GuardianAngel1911 with Mjolnir and the Odinsword December 3, 2012 at 9:58 am -      #16

    @Bosse323
    it’s whatever his current incarnation is unless otherwise stated.
    Also welcome to the site.

  17. Bosse323 December 3, 2012 at 10:08 am -      #17

    Thank you. Alright so Pre-Herrasy so far.
    I know some about Kerri, and a little bit on Doom along with the Emperor. But I would like to know more about both teams.

  18. Bosse323 December 3, 2012 at 10:10 am -      #18

    Well.. I’d figure since he is a Daemon prince Post-Herrasy.. Wouldn’t it be fine if he where in his pre-Herrasy state? Primarchs are powerful as it is.

  19. GuardianAngel1911 with Mjolnir and the Odinsword December 3, 2012 at 10:15 am -      #19

    I don’t know anything about team 2 so can’t help you there.
    but I can with Doom and Palpatine some.

    Dr. Doom – brilliant scientist and tactician (in the top ten minds of Marvel humans likely top five with Reed Stark Parker Doom and Pym/Banner with Stark and Parker arguably pulling a draw for second smartest if not a three way duel for that spot with Doom) and a powerful sorcerer able to keep up with Dr. Strange at his most powerful. His combination of sorcery and science makes him a force to be reckoned with and given prep he is arguably even more dangerous than Batman would be given the same prep time. While generally his sorcery is forgotten when discussing him it plays a big role in the character, in fact it was shown at one point that once every year he summons and duels Mephisto for his mothers soul, he doesn’t win but persistence and hell how many people willingly fight the devil?
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    Palpatine, Emperor of the Star Wars Galaxy for a time and one of the most powerful Sith Lords. In the EU he shined showing off force powers capable of razing and destroying entire fleets and planets. He is also, though he doesn’t often use it, very skilled with a lightsaber though he prefers to manipulate and use the force to his advantage.

  20. Murder December 3, 2012 at 10:16 am -      #20

    I vote team 1 until team 2 presents some feats from the unkown memers of their team.
    -
    Also The borg are winning their match against the Imperium so we moving to give them their FP award.

  21. GuardianAngel1911 with Mjolnir and the Odinsword December 3, 2012 at 10:19 am -      #21

    Yeah team 1 seems to have all the cards, and power.

  22. Soldier's Shadow December 3, 2012 at 10:24 am -      #22

    Sensui and Angron are both, according to Topia posts, capable of dishing out attacks powerful enough to level mountains (or was it cities?) and taking similar attacks. Not sure on Angron, but Sensui, as almost any other Yu Yu Hakusho character can do, move and react at high hypersonic speeds.

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    That’s more speed than we’ve seen from most of Team One except for maybe Magneto with his flight, and Doom with his teleporter. (Not sure if teleporting was a one time thing or not for Doom or if it was even 616.) So, Angelus and Palaptine would be vulnerable to this type of blitz.

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    Circe is a Wonder Woman level character that also has a bit of magic behind her attacks. She has transmuting from what I’ve seen and I believe your typical magical blasts. Considering she can stand up to Wonder Woman, she can present a formidable match to Dr. Doom.

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    Angelus is a character from The Darkness series from Image. I will come back to her when I return from class later on in the day as I remember seeing feats for her fights with Jackie somewhere before.

  23. Obyron December 3, 2012 at 10:31 am -      #23

    Current Incarnation Angron is Post-Heresy. He’s pure CC death, being a Khornate Daemon Primarch, but, alas, there aren’t many feats I can post, except lexicanum’s page on the First Armageddon War. Wish I could find a copy of The Emperor’s Gift, there might be feats in there.
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    Current Incarnation Kerrigan would not be Infested, what with Jim Raynor curing her in the end of SC2:WoL, so best we can go on is whatever pre-infestation feats, maybe some of her infested skills(not sure, HotS isn’t out yet).
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    I have no idea who the other memebers of team 2 are.

  24. luchagoort December 3, 2012 at 10:31 am -      #24

    @Bosse323
    Angron’s current incarnation is as a daemon prince, so in this match he will be a daemon prince unless Soldier’s Shadow decides to change it before the #50 post.
    Then again, seeing as he’s going up against the likes of Dr. Doom he’s going to need all the power he can get.

  25. Obyron December 3, 2012 at 10:31 am -      #25
  26. Bosse323 December 3, 2012 at 10:32 am -      #26

    @GuardianAngel1911

    Thanks, again haha.
    Well. Angron’s equipment might help..
    ■Armour of Mars – Angron wears artificer armour that is modified from the gladiatorial armour in which he fought as a slave.
    ■Black Blade of Angron – Primarch Angron’s personal daemonic sword, this gigantic black blade can cleave anything in two. This weapon was destroyed by the powerful psychic defence of the Grey Knights Space Marine Chapter during the First War for Armageddon.
    ■Brazentooth – Brazentooth was the massive two-handed Chainaxe that the Primarch Angron used before taking up Gorefather and Gorechild. Brazentooth was so large only a Primarch could wield it with any result. Brazentooth was later presented by Angron to Lorgar of the Word Bearers to cement the alliance between their two Legions at the time of the Horus Heresy. Brazentooth was apparently destroyed or lost in the vacuum of space after the destruction of the Word Bearers’ ship Furious Abyss in the early days of the Heresy.
    ■Gorefather and Gorechild – These archaic matched Chainaxes are amongst the most potent weapons known among the relics of the Primarchs, and are made all the more deadly by Angron’s consummate skill as a fighter.
    ■The Spite Furnace – Angron also carries a master-crafted Plasma Pistol known as the Spite Furnace.
    ■The Butcher’s Nails – The Butcher’s Nails are bio-neural cybernetic implants which were surgically grafted directly into Angron’s cerebral cortex. A relic device from the Dark Age of Technology, these implants would boost a warrior’s adrenaline, resulting in greater strength and aggression in battle, making him nigh unstoppable.

    (Source warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Angron)

  27. Bosse323 December 3, 2012 at 10:35 am -      #27

    @luchagoort
    Ah. Alright.
    (Like your avatar by the way. Lunar Wolves correct?)

  28. GuardianAngel1911 with Mjolnir and the Odinsword December 3, 2012 at 10:35 am -      #28

    Okay, finally getting some idea of what team 2 can do.
    Doom’s shields let him survive a blast from Beyonder (I think pre retcon) that knocked out Galactus, Doom actually wakes up first. Pretty impressive and should let him tank Wonder Woman level punches.
    i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomForcefields04SW1.jpg
    i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomForcefields05SW1.jpg
    ———-
    Doom’s time travel tech is connected to his armor, could be useful
    i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Inventions/DoomArmor23-TimePlatformMTU45.jpg

  29. Soldier's Shadow December 3, 2012 at 10:36 am -      #29

    “and a powerful sorcerer able to keep up with Dr. Strange at his most powerful.”

    -

    While that scan showed him showing some impressive magic in Strange’s eyes, seemed more like just natural surprise that an “inexperienced magic user” handled himself so well in such a stitch rather than “keeping up with him”.

  30. Bosse323 December 3, 2012 at 10:38 am -      #30

    Wouldn’t the factor with Khorne’s blessings for Angron come in effect though due to the magic? From what I know about that god.
    (Not good with Khorne much more of grand papa Nurgle and Tzeentch.)

  31. luchagoort December 3, 2012 at 10:42 am -      #31

    @Bosse323
    thanks for the equipment list, but there is a small problem with him having both Gorefather and Gorechild. Gorechild is currently being wielded by Kharn, so unless Kharn gave it back during the 13th black crusade he will not have it. also, on Gorefather, it was wielded during the first war for armageddon, and there is no mention of it after he was banished back to the Warp, so it is possible the Grey Knights have it locked up tight and Angron has other daemonic weapons. unless ofcourse you can find some quotes on him wielding Gorefather and/or Gorechild after the first war for Armageddon.

  32. GuardianAngel1911 with Mjolnir and the Odinsword December 3, 2012 at 10:43 am -      #32

    Magneto was able to open a fissure in the earth
    img107.imageshack.us/img107/4781/magsripsapartground8du.jpg
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    volcano
    img396.imageshack.us/img396/1496/magcontrolsearth2gf.jpg
    ———
    lifted a mountain and dropped it on people.
    img473.imageshack.us/img473/2991/magdropsanmountain6di.jpg
    ———
    would post more but like SS will be in classes for a while.

  33. Bosse323 December 3, 2012 at 10:44 am -      #33

    He did give Gorchild to Kharn from what I know of.
    Gorechild – Massive and ancient; Gorechild is an artefact Chainaxe from the time of the Great Crusade, a gift to Khârn from his Primarch Angron. Gorechild’s jagged whirling teeth were torn from the jaws of Mica Dragons on the Death World of Luther Mcintyre and its shaft is forged of adamantium. Even in the hands of an unskilled user (which Khârn is clearly not) the axe can split an armoured Space Marine from head to crotch. In the hands of the Betrayer, it can deliver devastating blows with deadly accuracy.

  34. luchagoort December 3, 2012 at 10:56 am -      #34

    well, from what i can tell, the Angelus is from the Darkness comics and games and according to the lore, she is just as powerfull as the darkness. now, judging from the games (not the highest level of canon, i know, but it’s the best we have until someone else comes in with better knowledge) i’d say Angron can take her out pretty easily.

    @Bosse323
    it’s indeed the Luna Wolves symbol, always loved that legion before the Horus Heresy.

  35. Bosse323 December 3, 2012 at 11:00 am -      #35

    Well. From what I’ve read on other forms and from other sources. Angron is the height of the smallest Titan.. Isn’t that Warhound?

  36. Bosse323 December 3, 2012 at 11:06 am -      #36

    Oh.. One thing where do I go to request a duel?

  37. Gluttonous-Behemoth December 3, 2012 at 11:09 am -      #37

    @Bosse
    Yes.
    -
    Scroll to the top, and look at the sidebar to the right. Along that will be a “Battle Requests” tab.

  38. Bosse323 December 3, 2012 at 11:20 am -      #38

    @Gluttonous-Behemoth
    Thank you.

    So. I have my battle set. (Kinda getting bored with seeing Kharn so I had one with Typhus requested.)

  39. itcheyness December 3, 2012 at 11:41 am -      #39

    Cool, we’ve only had like one with him before. I hope it gets posted.
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    Welcome to FactPile btw.

  40. Bosse323 December 3, 2012 at 11:45 am -      #40

    Thank you. itcheyness.
    I’ve been on about a week now.

  41. luchagoort December 3, 2012 at 12:00 pm -      #41

    did a bit of digging on Circe, turns out she’s a marvel villain, mainly Wonder Woman’s. the wiki says that she was capable going toe to toe in physical combat against Wonder Woman, as well as in one episode actually stealing Wonder Woman’s powers, which might be why in this match she’s called “Wonder Circe” instead of just “Circe”. so if it is indeed Circe with Wonder Woman’s powers, i think feats from Wonder Woman will also apply to Circe in this match.

  42. GuardianAngel1911 with Mjolnir and the Odinsword December 3, 2012 at 12:03 pm -      #42

    You mean DC not Marvel

  43. luchagoort December 3, 2012 at 12:10 pm -      #43

    DC*
    sorry for the typo, kind of in a rush. i’ll look at the developments in the match when i get back.

  44. Obyron December 3, 2012 at 12:33 pm -      #44

    Angron is blessed by Khorne, so he’s probably resistant to some degree to magic.
    Not seeing anything on Sensui, and the last time I watched YuYu Hakusho(several years ago), It was the spirit tournament, so I’m not sure if Sensui was around yet…

  45. Super Kryptonian Lowk December 3, 2012 at 12:36 pm -      #45

    Circe is apparently a magical reality warper. Turn people into animals, oneshots MM, amp herself up, hurting wonder woman with magic blast, etc.

  46. Murder December 3, 2012 at 12:43 pm -      #46

    Two things I thought of that may favor team two:
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    Current Dr Doom is a shell of his former self unless things have changed in the last year. Dr had his mind wiped and much of his former glory is gone. Still a tough cookie but not as helpful as old doom. Feel free to correct this if things are back to normal.
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    Angron, does his blessing of Khorn proect him against magic and force powers? I havent follwed the kharn vs luke battle but I believe it was decided kharn was protected against assault force powers. If that is the case he should be able to curbstomp Palp and Doom. If not he’s just a brawler going up against powerful range fighters. Mags can also possible hurl him into space considering all the metal he’s wrapped in.

  47. GuardianAngel1911 with Mjolnir and the Odinsword December 3, 2012 at 12:56 pm -      #47

    @Murder
    As far as I know he was returned to normal while working with the future foundation. Currently he has an army of lobotimized alt universe Dooms and the Infinity gauntlets of two universes

  48. Murder December 3, 2012 at 12:58 pm -      #48

    Two infinity gauntlets??? Im going to look into that but if thats true this match is over.

  49. GuardianAngel1911 with Mjolnir and the Odinsword December 3, 2012 at 1:03 pm -      #49

    They work only in their own universes else Thanos would be waging war on Latveria.

  50. Amm0vamp1r3 December 3, 2012 at 1:06 pm -      #50

    Angelus is like the Darkness but light so she can create beast made out of light and i think shapeshift also.

  51. Super Kryptonian Lowk December 3, 2012 at 1:10 pm -      #51

    “As far as I know he was returned to normal while working with the future foundation. Currently he has an army of lobotimized alt universe Dooms and the Infinity gauntlets of two universes”
    -
    He created a universe, people, ruled as their god. For wome reason(forgot why) he spread the gem to his top people or something. They revolted against him, he was saved by the FF. Val asked how being god was. Doom said he found it beneath him.
    Note details are a bit fuzzy but end of story he is back minus IG.

  52. TopaztheSpaz December 3, 2012 at 1:20 pm -      #52

    I want to say Circe holds her own, simply because she’s not only in possession of pre reboot WW’s powers, and equipment, but she’s also one of the top tier magical using characters in DC, and easily capable of changing a decent portion of Team ones forces into animals.

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    Angelus though I think will be the main contender to have to deal with since like it was said before she is the light based equal to the Darkness. Which means I think team 1 wins simply because I don’t know if anyone on team 2 can do anything to stop Angelus.

  53. GuardianAngel1911 with Mjolnir and the Odinsword December 3, 2012 at 1:21 pm -      #53

    Oh, fell behind on that I guess

  54. GuardianAngel1911 with Mjolnir and the Odinsword December 3, 2012 at 1:22 pm -      #54

    @Topaz
    Doom isn’t a magical slouch

  55. Super Kryptonian Lowk December 3, 2012 at 1:24 pm -      #55

    My mistake, Doom made two civilizations. One magic, one science. Problem was that it was in his image so naturally the revolted against him and took his power and split the gems among themselves.
    The rest of what I said was right though.

  56. TopaztheSpaz December 3, 2012 at 1:32 pm -      #56

    Never said he wasn’t but I meant Magneto, and Palpatine. Sadly though it’s rather hard to find a respect thread for Circe. The character isn’t honestly popular enough, and usually her role in the comics isn’t one of direct combat.

  57. Marcel December 3, 2012 at 1:37 pm -      #57

    Is this EU Palpatine? if so, his powers go over 9…never mind. I am not going to resurrect a dead meme.

  58. Matapiojo December 3, 2012 at 1:47 pm -      #58

    “Angron, does his blessing of Khorn proect him against magic and force powers? I havent follwed the kharn vs luke battle but I believe it was decided kharn was protected against assault force powers. If that is the case he should be able to curbstomp Palp and Doom.”
    .
    I am not aware of Angron having any protection against magic other than his beefy daemonic invulnerability. Meaning, Angron can tank most everything, magic or not, but it is altoghether difficult to quantify daemonic invulnerability in the first place.
    .
    To more directly answer your question, I do not know of Angron having a Collar of Khorne or an equivalent protection vs supernatural.

  59. TopaztheSpaz December 3, 2012 at 1:48 pm -      #59

    I can’t find scans but some of the stuff I recall her doing in comic has been so far, Merging Doomsday and Superman(The Witch and the Warrior), powering Cheetah up to be as strong as Superman(Can’t recall that book’s name), being able to with ease prevent every hero of the world from entering Washington DC(When Amazons Attack), and striking out against every god in the DC multiverse, where she took over new Olympus, and also devolved Diana back into the clay she was born from. (The War of the Gods arc)

  60. Super Kryptonian Lowk December 3, 2012 at 2:01 pm -      #60

    @Topaz
    Iirc there was a Circe vs Sersi match on herochat that had a few scans.

  61. GuardianAngel1911 with Mjolnir and the Odinsword December 3, 2012 at 2:04 pm -      #61

    Doom may not match her, but that hour of prep helps.

  62. ZomBighorn Sheep December 3, 2012 at 2:08 pm -      #62

    If anyone needs Palpatine feats I’ll be in my trailer.

  63. GuardianAngel1911 with Mjolnir and the Odinsword December 3, 2012 at 2:10 pm -      #63

    @ZomB
    They’d be appreciated

  64. bubsterbub909 December 3, 2012 at 2:15 pm -      #64

    palpatine= force storm, so everyone else dies

  65. luchagoort December 3, 2012 at 2:32 pm -      #65

    @bubsterbub909
    as someone who has literally no experience with star wars besides the movies, what are the effects of force storm?

  66. GuardianAngel1911 with Mjolnir and the Odinsword December 3, 2012 at 2:36 pm -      #66

    Wormhole that wipes out fleets and can fuck a planet up.

  67. luchagoort December 3, 2012 at 2:42 pm -      #67

    can the force storm be localised enough to only affact the enemy team? otherwise, it’s not gonna be of much use…..

  68. The One Above All December 3, 2012 at 2:47 pm -      #68
  69. TopaztheSpaz December 3, 2012 at 2:49 pm -      #69

    Thanks I’ll hunt for it

  70. Tarbel December 3, 2012 at 3:00 pm -      #70

    Sensui is from Yu Yu Hakusho.
    yuyuhakusho.wikia.com/wiki/Shinobu_Sensui#Powers_and_Abilities
    He can bust mountains with his punches quite easily.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UyqfhIILRw
    Skip to :20 if you want.

  71. luchagoort December 3, 2012 at 3:12 pm -      #72

    so team 2 has 2 mountain-busters (Sensui and Angron), a magic used/polymorpher with the powers of Wonder Woman, and a psychically gifted person who is capable of controlling millions of organisms (if not billions) across multiple worlds. Not really all that bad. Then again, going against the likes of Dr. Doom and Magneto they’re gonna need it.

  72. The One Above All December 3, 2012 at 3:19 pm -      #73

    Is Magneto allowed to screw with the planets orbit and send it flying into the sun or is that out of the question?

  73. Tarbel December 3, 2012 at 3:23 pm -      #74

    @The One Above All
    Can he really do that??
    I only remember him moving a 30,000 ton nuclear sub or something like that.

  74. The One Above All December 3, 2012 at 3:26 pm -      #75

    @Tarbel
    Well the north and south pole are magnetic right? So I just assumed he could screw with the planets axis and send it flying into the sun.

  75. luchagoort December 3, 2012 at 3:30 pm -      #76

    @The One Above All
    i think that it would more likely hamper team 1 then team 2, because out of team 1 the only one capable of flight as far as i know is Magneto, thanks to lifting the metal in his own suit. Doom i could see being able to fly, but i don’t remember him ever doing that. also have never seen Palpatine or the Angelus flying, though Palpatine might just use the Force to lift him up (but how is he then going to survive in space?).

    team 2, however, has Angron and Circe being able to fly (wings for Angron and magic for Circe). Kerrigan also MIGHT be able to fly seeing as she has wings, even though they’re more bone then anything else and are really only ever used as melee weapons. Sensui i don’t know about, you’d have to ask Tarbel, he seems to know more about him.

    so it’d end with 2 people for team 1 being capable of flight (Magneto and Palpatine, possibly Doom) but who probably couldn’t survive in space, and team 2 having Angron and Circe being capable of flight (possibly Sensui) and Angron being capable of surviving in space through the sheer quality of not needing to breathe, eat, sleep etc. (yay daemonhood).

  76. ReDruM December 3, 2012 at 3:39 pm -      #77

    Hitman you are a douche nozzle for creating this match lol. Magneto can not only control metal he has total control of the electromagnetic spectrum meaning he can rip people apart at an atomic level. Dr. Doom is a powerful sorcerer and a genius who creates WMDs. I won’t bother mentioning Palpatine since I know nothing of the EU version but we have Angelus here potentially the most, if PIS is not a factor, the most powerful member of this match. Think The Darkness but the ‘good guy’ version. She is one half of creation The Darkness being the other and if The Darkness is of any indication she can potentially swallow the universe. I see no way team 2 can compete on any level unless we make a swap.

  77. ReDruM December 3, 2012 at 3:40 pm -      #78

    And yes the Angelus can fly. Fly on wings made of pure light,

  78. luchagoort December 3, 2012 at 3:46 pm -      #79

    @ReDruM
    still, she’s going up against someone capable of destroying starcraft battlecruisers with ease as well as someone that would probably make the Darkness shy away in the amount of carnage he can deliver.

  79. Aelfinn December 3, 2012 at 3:52 pm -      #80

    I’m assuming Kerrigan is while she is still Zerg, right? Otherwise she’d be kinda pointless. I would also like to clarify that it does not, in fact, matter how fat she is. It may actually give her an advantage, considering the cushioning it would provide her organs. :)
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    I’d like to see the proof of Magneto being able to rip apart people at an atomic level. That seems like quite the game-changing power, but it needs to be supported.

  80. ReDruM December 3, 2012 at 3:53 pm -      #81

    “still, she’s going up against someone capable of destroying starcraft battlecruisers with ease as well as someone that would probably make the Darkness shy away in the amount of carnage he can deliver.”
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    1. The Darkness could swallow the universe if it wasn’t for The Angelus so I highly doubt whichever character you’re talking about can match that.
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    2. Kerrigan is nowhere near the level of the Angelus. Especially since their is no Darkness here to limit her power and as far as this match goes no vessel for her meaning she is just a being of raw light and fire.
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    Besides that The Angelus’ attacks are pure light meaning unless the character here have FTL reaction they can’t hope to get away from her attacks. Besides that she can create legions of anything she wants being creation itself as well as any type of weapons she wants. Not to mention that that as a being of pure energy she has no corporeal form which to strike. This makes it so that even if she was solo in this match it would be extremely difficult if not impossible for Team 2 to defeat her.

  81. Tarbel December 3, 2012 at 3:56 pm -      #82

    If Magnetic truly can move Earth to the sun (that’s a big if, but I saw on the wiki of him that he can crush a planet to subatomic level…………), then how would he survive.
    And, would he do it?
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    How good is Magneto’s reaction time?

  82. Tarbel December 3, 2012 at 4:05 pm -      #83

    “Besides that The Angelus’ attacks are pure light meaning unless the character here have FTL reaction they can’t hope to get away from her attacks. Besides that she can create legions of anything she wants being creation itself as well as any type of weapons she wants. Not to mention that that as a being of pure energy she has no corporeal form which to strike. This makes it so that even if she was solo in this match it would be extremely difficult if not impossible for Team 2 to defeat her.”
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    That’s like saying a person with a laser pointer will tag anyone who isn’t FTL reaction time.
    What is Angelus’ reaction time?

  83. luchagoort December 3, 2012 at 4:07 pm -      #84

    @ReDruM
    could you give some feats on the amounts of damage or other things the Angelus has done? Because, if she is as you said a non-corporeal being, the only way i can see her attack is through the minions she can summon (if that doesn’t count as outside help), which might very well be mowed down by Angron like guarsmen caught off-guard.

  84. PrimusxPilus December 3, 2012 at 4:12 pm -      #85

    Well magneto did alter the earth’s magnetic poles/polarities/what have you to limit Xavier’s telepathy…. He’s able to affect it that much at the least

  85. ReDruM December 3, 2012 at 4:16 pm -      #86

    Hmm feats for Magneto.
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    Apparently he can reflect psychokinetic abilities
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    imageshack.us/f/398/magreflectspsychicpowerandreve.jpg/
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    Can shield himself from the telekinetic blasts of the phoenix
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    imageshack.us/f/371/magtakesphoenixblast7nn.jpg/
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    lol he can rip the earth open.
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    img107.imageshack.us/img107/4781/magsripsapartground8du.jpg
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    Cause volcanic eruptions
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    Use his control over the electromagnetic spectrum to increase his strength and durability as seen here when he broke Hercules’ bearhug and sent him flying
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    img53.imageshack.us/img53/5774/sgrip3pj.jpg
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    Take a punch to the head from Colossus no shield and no helmet
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    img397.imageshack.us/img397/492/magcolagain3pg.jpg
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    Go toe to toe with Colossus
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    img448.imageshack.us/img448/3473/maggoesh2hwithcolossus9xs.jpg
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    Here he tanks nukes
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    img107.imageshack.us/img107/3559/magtakespain1fh.jpg
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  86. Commander Cross December 3, 2012 at 5:06 pm -      #87

    @Admiral at #19

    Not to come across as a broken record or anything, but Darth Nihilus would castrate Sideous if push comes to shove!

    Although on the main matter at hand, doesn’t Sensui have a lot of nasty surprises in store in Team 2′s favor particularly?

    IB says that either an Arc System Works fan like Cypher might show up in this very page to discuss the main meat of the match-up or show up a few pages later at some point.

  87. Crimson Sentry December 3, 2012 at 5:09 pm -      #88

    Two things
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    Angron does have a collar of Khorne
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    and the match initiator needs to specify the incarnations of each person otherwise magneto is extremely formidable with doom

  88. StealthRanger December 3, 2012 at 5:19 pm -      #89

    “Sensui and Angron are both, according to Topia posts, capable of dishing out attacks powerful enough to level mountains (or was it cities?) and taking similar attacks. Not sure on Angron, but Sensui, as almost any other Yu Yu Hakusho character can do, move and react at high hypersonic speeds.”
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    Yes, Angron and Sensui are both mountain busters physically and have above mountain+ level durability
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    As for Angron’s speed, well him and other Primarchs are capable of speedblitzing large groups of Space Marines who are casual bullet timers (and as such have mid supersonic to hypersonic reactions) and going by some posts here in his CI on Spawn and the Redeemer vs Horus and Angron he can also teleport
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    “Angron does have a collar of Khorne”
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    Which should help him against Palpatine and Doom, not so much Magneto though
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    “and the match initiator needs to specify the incarnations of each person otherwise magneto is extremely formidable with doom”
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    Well presumably current versions
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    Oh and Soldier’s, y u no credit me in helping suggest the match?

  89. ZomBighorn Sheep December 3, 2012 at 5:20 pm -      #90

    “Angron does have a collar of Khorne”
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    Care to provide some proof?

  90. jamesisawesome December 3, 2012 at 5:25 pm -      #91

    I thik out of all the individuals here, Sensui has the most power. (Is he really an indvidual though?) The other team would have trouble countering his techniques without a lot of time and resources.

  91. Commander Cross December 3, 2012 at 5:33 pm -      #92

    @JamesisAwesome

    How badly do we miss you* around these parts? T_T

    Also the last time I checked, Sensui has up to 7 Personalities in all, each of them being 3 dimensions each at minimum, which if we go with that kind of low-balling, would leave us to believe he’s the 1st ever-known 21st-Dimensional being to exist, by far!

    Interesting thing to note is interesting!

    1.) (Among others, Doc Rockso, AHEM, Riverlia, I could go on the list if I need to!)

  92. PrimusxPilus December 3, 2012 at 5:34 pm -      #93

    @Jamie
    Could you at least support your stance with evidence or evidence that has been provided? “character A kicks B’s ass” is rather pointless

  93. PrimusxPilus December 3, 2012 at 5:36 pm -      #94

    @Cross
    Do these personality/dimensions attack? If not he’s just seven three dimensional entities sharing the same soon to be corpse

  94. PrimusxPilus December 3, 2012 at 5:37 pm -      #95

    Stack* my bad Cross I’m sure they attack lol

  95. Commander Cross December 3, 2012 at 5:47 pm -      #96

    @Primus(The Eldest Praetor)

    Glad you asked.

    If I recalled correctly, when they are working individually, each personality has something unique to offer for Sensui as far as Combat is concerned, one of them is able to fight in a strategic manner even by their standards, another knows how to get under your skin via sheer crudeness and even carries a gun, yet another does have more memories of their main body in terms of his fighting capabilities, and the last-known case happens to have a very rare power that’s not to be scoffed off, lightly.

    Which one do you feel I ought to see if I can find anything worth recalling, 1st?

  96. Soldier's Shadow December 3, 2012 at 7:10 pm -      #97

    imageshack.us/photo/my-images/687/angelus03kingpinpg14.jpg/
    imageshack.us/photo/my-images/859/angelus03kingpinpg15.jpg/
    imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/angelus03kingpinpg17.jpg/
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    imageshack.us/photo/my-images/831/angelus03kingpinpg1920.jpg/
    imageshack.us/photo/my-images/213/angelus03kingpinpg23.jpg/
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    img717.imageshack.us/img717/7431/angelus03kingpinpg25.th.jpg

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    Feats for Angelus doing battle with The Darkness. That should be enough to fry Kerrigan and harm Circe.

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    As for my boy Mags…

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    img448.imageshack.us/img448/3473/maggoesh2hwithcolossus9xs.jpg

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    Hand to hand with Collossus.

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    imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/magfiresstonesshield7jj.jpg/

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    Deflecting attacks from She-Hulk and Thor.

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    “Oh and Soldier’s, y u no credit me in helping suggest the match?”

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    Because it was my thread that you and others contributed to. =p But if you, or ZomB too for that matter, as he helped greatly here too, PM me on the Topia to give Hitman.

  97. tau43 December 3, 2012 at 8:25 pm -      #98

    Magneto’s the guy who can control iron in blood and caused several catastrophes by altering the Earth’s magnetic poles.
    Doom is the guy who stood up and held his own against Celestials.
    Going with team A.

  98. ZomBra'tac December 3, 2012 at 8:31 pm -      #99

    Sensui looks significantly less intimidating than anyone else here.
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    Anyways, has anyone really debated for team left? Or even against team right?

  99. Crimson Sentry December 3, 2012 at 8:32 pm -      #100

    @ZOM
    Here is the rules excerpt from Angron:

    Demon Primarch Angron

    1 HQ choice

    WS BS S T W I A Ld Sv
    10 – 9 7 6 9 7(+D3) 10 2+/4+

    Rune Blade – Angron's Black rune blade acts as a power weapon. His mastery over the weapon however is such that Angron never needs more than 2+ to hit, regardless of opponents WS or any special rules.

    Demonic form – Angron is no longer simply a primarch, he is a hulking Demon prince, given incalculable power and terrifying form by his patron god Khorne. Demonic form acts similairly to Demonic armour with the addition of a 4+ invulnerable along with the 2+ armour save.

    Rage of Khorne – Upon his initial discovery and sale into gladitorial slavery, Angron was given cyber enhancements which increased his battle prowess, namely increasing his bloodthirsty nature. This cyber-surgery, giving the attribute of battle maddened bloodthirst has continued onto Angron's legion, still very present today in both Angron and his legion. Angron gets +D3 extra attacks instead of the normal 1 when charging.

    Angron's Challenge – To represent Angrons Martial nature Angron may issue a combat challenge to any other HQ model within 12″. If accepted Angron and the other HQ must each move a maximum of 6″ towards each other and immeditaly engage in combat. Any terrain in the path of the two great warriors is ignored and any intervening models(friend or foe!) are simply moved aside in their single mindedness to battle each other. If declined Angron gains +1 str representing his rage at the refuseal and immediatly moves D6 inches towards the nearest enemy target in an attempt to vent his fury. Angron may still issue his challenge if already engaged in combat, if his challnge is declined Angron still gains +1 Str but remains in the combat to which he is already engaged.

    Collar of Khorne – Angron Wears the collar of khorne, a sign of subservience to his patron god but also a powerfull trinket protecting Angron from cowardly and otherwise dangerous psychic attack. Reference the chaos codex for rules on the collar of khorne.

    Demonic Flight – Angron follows all the rules for demonic flight as detailed in Codex: Chaos Space marines with the exception that Angron does not have to take a test if he lands in difficult terrain

    Monstrous Creature – Angron is a monstrously huge Demon Primarch, he rolls +2D6 for armour penetration and ignores armour saves in combat. Reference Main rule book for full details.

    Living Icon – Angron is a true testament of power through Khorne, as such Angron acts as an icon for demon summoning purposes.

    Fearsome – Angron is a most terrifying foe, a great Demonic Primarch, massive, powerfull and terrible to look upon. If an enemy unit has to make a morale check after losing combat to Angron, they are forced to do so at -2 leadership.

    Fearless – Reference main rule book.

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