Luke Skywalker Vs Dante

Suggested By Guardianangel1911

For this battle it will be the EU version of Luke Skywalker.

The battle takes place in a colosseumand both characters can use the entire arena including the stands and 20 yards outside the colosseum.

Dante recieves his standard equipment.

Who wins?

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599 Comments on "Luke Skywalker Vs Dante"

  1. Nomad November 18, 2012 at 6:38 pm -      #1

    Awesome Luke picture! I’ll go with him for the time being, but Dante is pretty tough. Can’t wait to see how this goes.

  2. ZomBatum November 18, 2012 at 6:39 pm -      #2

    Well then, WordPress is back!!! Anyways, Luke mindwipes, and makes Dante his gardener.

  3. Nomad November 18, 2012 at 6:41 pm -      #3

    Only bad part is that it looks like all disqus comments were wiped. Oh well, can’t win them all.

  4. TheSorrow November 18, 2012 at 6:42 pm -      #4

    Standard Equipment? Wouldn’t that include Dante’s Quicksilver as well? That might present a problem for Luke.

  5. GuardianAngel1911 November 18, 2012 at 6:45 pm -      #5

    @Sorrow
    standard equipment as in non bonus items, anything not acquired in the story.
    Also son of a bitch I posted a lot of good feats and a lot of them were bitches to get right hopefully they come back.

  6. Chuck inglish November 18, 2012 at 6:49 pm -      #6

    Every dog has his day

  7. ZomBatum November 18, 2012 at 6:49 pm -      #7

    I still have a Disqus tab up, I’ll see if I can get some of the quotes for you GA.

    “vs the Sith lord Viun Gaalan, please not the bolded section.
    Fate of the Jedi 4: Backlash pg 217-218
    The Sith leader’s voice was cultured, surprisingly pleasant. “You are Grand Master Luke Skywalker.”

    Luke nodded. “My son, Ben. Our friend Dyon Stadd.”

    “I am Lord Viun Gaalan, the last man you will ever meet. Much admiration will be accorded me for killing Luke Skywalker. Especially by the family of Lady Rhea, whom you slew.”

    Luke shook his head. “No, you aren’t, and no, it won’t.”

    Lord Gaalan ignited his lightsaber; the clover-like growth on the meadow glowed red in its light. The other three Sith and the Jedi ignited theirs a split second afterward. Dyon drew his twin blaster pistols.

    Luke and Gaalan hurtled together, green lightsaber blade crashing on red, a blow that would have thrown any two lesser Force-users back half a dozen meters, but the two of them were unmoved. The female Sith beside Gaalan struck at Luke, but he merely adjusted the angle of his blade against Gaalan’s to catch her attack. Luke kicked, forcing the woman back; she fell, rolling into a backward somersault and coming up on her feet.

    Ben hurtled toward the other Sith male. Luke, in his peripheral vision, saw his son stop short and reverse direction. The Sith man, lunging toward him, slipped off-balance, and his lightsaber flew from his hand.

    Blasterfire flashed from Dyon at the disarmed Sith. The Sith man caught the first bolt with his open hand, but, still off-balance, could not catch the second. It seared into his knee. The third took him in the shoulder; the fourth, in the throat.

    The second Sith female leapt toward Dyon. He retreated, an expert dodge that caused her to miss his left arm with her lightsaber; the blow cleaved through his left-hand blaster instead.

    The woman who’d supported Gaalan now ran at Ben.

    Gaalan struck at Luke, high, low, a series of subtle and sophisticated blows that would have bewildered any lesser duelist. He was good; Luke gave him that. He might have been a match for an expert swordsmaster such as Kyp or Kyle Katarn. He would have been too much for a comparatively diffident duelist such as Cilghal, or even Luke as he had been back at Sinkhole Station, at low ebb in physical and mental strength.

    But Luke, despite recent exertions, had had time to recover. He parried each of Gaalan’s blows, and his ripostes—his blade skittering off Gaalan’s and thrusting now at the Sith Lord’s face, now at shoulder or knee or torso—came increasingly close to touching flesh.

    Luke smiled at the man”

  8. TheSorrow November 18, 2012 at 6:49 pm -      #8

    But wasn’t Quicksilver apart of the plot? I think Time Bangle was the only non-canon item.

  9. GuardianAngel1911 November 18, 2012 at 6:51 pm -      #9

    @Sorrow
    I don’t know you’d have to ask a Dante expert. I just know that’s what I was told about what his standard equipment should be
    @ZomB
    thank you if you can because that will really help.

  10. ZomBatum November 18, 2012 at 6:51 pm -      #10

    Guardianangel1911

    “Luke and Cadeus confront each other in person, Luke pins and immobilizes him with no movement, no visible strain or effort and well, it’s impressive TK in the bolded segments

    Legacy of the Force 6: Inferno pg 133-140

    By the time Caedus had instructed SD-XX to secure the cabin against eavesdropping-physical or otherwise-and hidden the droid safely inside its security closet, Luke was marching into the cabin. In his high boots and black StealthX flight suit, he resembled a GAG trooper-at least until he hammered a slap-pad to close the door and started across the floor.

    Caedus was glad to see Luke’s lightsaber still hanging from its belt clip, but he took the precaution of slipping toward his desk, where he would have access to a dozen weapons and traps he had prepared in anticipation of just such a confrontation.

    Luke jabbed a finger in Caedus’s direction. “Now I understand why you’ve been avoiding me.” His tone was even and soft, but there was no mistaking the wrath in his Force aura. “And this time, you’ve finally crossed the line.”
    “What are you talking about?” Caedus asked, pretending ignorance. If the news of Omas’s death was just breaking on the HoloNet, an innocent Jacen wouldn’t logically have heard about it in the middle of his battle meditation.

    “I’m sorry I haven’t been available to console you, Uncle Luke, but I’ve been kind of busy trying to save the Alliance.”

    Luke narrowed his eyes and stopped in the center of the cabin. “I’d sooner cry on a Hutt’s shoulder than yours. I think you know that.”

    “I suppose family should be honest with each other.” The sadness in Caedus’s voice was genuine. He had always regretted losing his uncle’s respect and love-just another of the many sacrifices he was making to bring peace to the galaxy.

    “But Admiral Bwua’tu will be calling for the Hapan fleet soon. We can work this out-whatever it is- after the battle.”

    Luke shook his head. “I don’t think so.”

    Caedus exhaled in exasperation. “Is this about the academy?” He sneaked a glance toward his observation bubble, where a halo of battle light could be seen flashing around his chair, broken only by the thick triangular pedestal on which it rested. “I told you, I’m not going to leave one of the Alliance’s most valuable assets unprotected…”

    “Don’t play stupid,” Luke snapped. “This isn’t about the academy. It’s about Ben.”

    “Ben?” Caedus stopped at the corner of his desk, feigning shock. “Did something happen to him?”
    “You tell me,” Luke said. “You’re the one who sent him.”
    “Sent him where! I’ve hardly spoken to Ben since the funeral.”

    In the next instant, Caedus found himself flying across the cabin toward his observation bubble. Luke had not gestured, had not flinched, had not even shifted his gaze; he had simply grabbed Caedus in the Force and hurled him five meters into his chair.
    “Don’t lie.” Luke started across the cabin. “I’m getting tired of it.”
    Caedus sprang out of the chair… or attempted to. Instead, he found himself struggling against an invisible weight. He felt as if he were accelerating to lightspeed with a faulty inertial compensator.
    “Luke, you’ve gone mad.” Caedus reached for the controls on the arm of his chair and discovered he couldn’t even do that much. “You can’t do this. I know you’re having trouble dealing with Mara’s death, but…”

    “This has nothing to do with Mara,” Luke said. “And you’re lucky it doesn’t. If she were here-if she had known what you were using Ben for-there’d be pieces of you scattered along the entire length of the Hydian Way.”

    The irony of the statement was far from lost on Caedus, but he was too astonished-and too frightened-to take any pleasure in it. While it was true that Luke had taken him by surprise, it was equally true that he had done so with no visible effort-and that he was continuing to hold him with no apparent exertion.

    Keenly aware that all that stood between him and a quick death was Luke Skywalker’s much-strained sense of decency, Caedus let a little of his very real fear seep into the Force, just enough to seem properly alarmed.

    “Does this have something to do with Cal Omas?” he asked. “Tell me Ben didn’t do anything foolish!”

    Luke’s eyes grew narrow and cold. “Tell me what makes you think he might have.”

    “Of course,” Caedus said. ” Ben learned of a conversation that made it look as though Omas had something to do with Mara’s death.”

    ” That’s ridiculous,” Luke said. ” Chief Omas would never have done something like that.”

    “Never have!” Caedus echoed. “You mean Ben…. you mean Omas is dead?”
    Luke looked at him without answering.

    Caedus would have shaken his head, save that it was still being held motionless with the Force. Had it been Mara’s death instead of Omas’s that Luke had just heard about, Caedus knew he would already be dead. Another reminder that anyone could be surprised.

    “I tried to tell Ben the same thing, but he’s so full of anger.” He locked gazes with Luke. “I’m afraid he’s going to become its servant, if one of us doesn’t reach him soon.”

    Luke nodded, then sat on the corner of Caedus’s desk. “How did Ben find out about this conversation?” Caedus forced himself not to look away. “I wish I knew.”

    “You told him.” When Luke’s expression did not change, Caedus realized that his uncle had been expecting the lie, that he had already worked matters out for himself. “It’s just so convenient for you, isn’t it? You let something slip in an innocent conversation and point Ben like a missile.”

    ” That’s not what happened.” The denial was strictly for form; Caedus knew Luke wouldn’t believe it. “But even if it were, now is hardly the time to discuss it. We’re a Squib’s hair from victory. After we crush the Confederation, I’ll be…”

    Krova’s voice came over the comm speaker. “I’m sorry to interrupt, Colonel Solo, but Admiral Bwua’tu is ready for the Hapans.” Caedus felt a knot unwind inside. Finally.

    “Tell Admiral Bwua’tu the Hapans will be coming shortly.” Caedus had retained personal control of the Hapan Home Fleet, determined to prevent any risk to Tenel Ka or Allana by not using it until victory was certain. He waited until Krova had acknowledged the order and closed the channel, then turned to his uncle.

    “I’ve told you all I know about Omas’s death, and I need to transmit that order myself. The Queen Mother insisted I take personal responsibility for committing her fleet.”

    Luke raised his brow. “You think you’re dismissing me?”

    “I know I am.” Caedus put an angry edge in his voice; he might be trapped in a humiliating position right now, but he was still the leader of the Galactic Alliance-and Luke was still its servant. “If you like, we’ll open an inquiry into Omas’s death after we’ve saved the Alliance.”

    Luke glared at Caedus for a long moment, then finally slipped off the desk. “Is that a promise?”
    “It is.”
    “Then I’ll take it for what it’s worth, “Luke said. Leaving Caedus Force-pinned in his chair, he started toward the door. “I’ll show myself out.”

    Caedus knew he would be freed as soon as Luke turned his concentration to something other than Force-pinning him-but that might take minutes, and Caedus needed to send in the Home Fleet now. Besides, he was the Chief of State of the Galactic Alliance, and he could not allow anyone, even Luke Skywalker, to humiliate him and simply leave. He had to assert some sort of authority.

    “Luke,” Caedus called. “Aren’t you forgetting something?”

    Luke stopped at the door and looked back, the rage in his face now softening to what looked like remorse. “You’re right. I should warn you that you’ll have to crush the Confederation without StealthXs. The Jedi can support you no longer.”

    “What?” Caedus was so shocked that he tried to rise- and found himself as unable to move as before. “You can’t desert now. We can end this war!”

    “We could destroy the Confederation fleets and kill a lot of rebels, “Luke admitted. “But I don’t think you can end this war, Jacen. I don’t think you even know what it’s about.”

    “That’s absurd.” Caedus did not understand how a man who had been fighting wars for forty years could be so foolish. “After their fleets are destroyed, Corellia and Both-awui will have to accept our terms, and once they’ve surrendered, the rest of the Confederation will have no choice but to come racing to rejoin the Alliance.”

    Luke shook his head and reached for the touch pad beside the door. “There’s always a choice, Jacen.”

    “And if you go through with this one, you’ll regret it.” Caedus could not understand why Luke wanted to desert him just when they were on the brink of saving the Alliance, but he did know how to prevent it. “Have you forgotten the academy?”

    The door opened. Instead of stepping through, Luke faced Caedus and spoke in a very calm voice. “I’m sure you’re not threatening the younglings.”

    He pointed at the base of Jacen’s meditation chair and made a tapping motion with his finger. The pedestal gave a loud whumpf, and the seat dropped a quarter meter.

    “Because you really don’t want to see me angry.” Luke made the tapping motion again. The pedestal emitted a metallic shriek, and the seat dropped another quarter meter. “And I think you’re smart enough to know that.”

    Luke tapped a last time, and the pedestal collapsed with a low loud crump, depositing Caedus on the floor with his feet sticking out in front of him like a child.

    “But if you want to try me, go ahead and make that threat.”
    Luke lowered his hand, and the weight vanished from Caedus’s chest. He could have leapt up to attack-had he been that foolish-but Sith were not slaves to their emotions. Avenging his humiliation could wait until after he had saved the Alliance. So, remaining on the floor where Luke had deposited him, Caedus simply touched the comm pad on his armrest. “Lieutenant, do we have an open channel to Prince Isolder yet?”

    “Actually,” Replied a deep Hapan voice, “You’re speaking to him now, Colonel Solo.”

    “My apologies.” Caedus looked across the day cabin to lock gazes with Luke. “Are you ready to commence your attack?”
    “I am, “Isolder said.
    Luke lowered his gaze and shook his head.
    “Then please proceed,” Caedus said. “And may the Force be with you.”
    “May it be with all of us,” Isolder replied. “If this plan doesn’t work, we’re going to need it.” The channel closed with a pop.

    Moving very slowly so his uncle would not misinterpret his actions as an attack, Caedus stood. “I know you too well,” He said to Luke. “You’re not going to abandon the Alliance.”

    “There is no Alliance.” Luke turned to leave. “It died with Cal Omas.”

    “For you, maybe.” Caedus couldn’t understand why his uncle was so focused on Omas’s death; it was one among millions, and even if Caedus had put the idea in Ben’s head, he hadn’t actually ordered the assassination.

    “But you are going to support this attack; I’m quite certain the Senate would frown on turning the security of the Jedi academy over to an order of deserters.”

    Luke’s hand brushed the hilt of his lightsaber, and Caedus thought for a moment that the fight he had been anticipating since Mara’s death-anticipating, dreading, and wanting-was finally going to come. He stepped away from the observation bubble, giving himself some maneuvering room in case Luke came at him in a tumbling pass.

    But Luke seemed to realize that attacking Caedus aboard his own Star Destroyer-even if he was fortunate enough to kill him-would only put the academy and the rest of his Jedi in an even more precarious position. He moved his hand away from his lightsaber and put it out to stop the door behind him from sliding shut.

    “Okay, Jacen,” He said. “If that’s how you want to play this, we will.”

    “It’s not how I want anything,” Caedus said. “But if that’s what it takes to win this war, I’ll do it.”

    Luke studied Caedus for a moment, then seemed to surrender to circumstances. “I don’t know why that surprises me, but it does.” His voice was weary and sad. “It looks like I should be getting back to my StealthX.”

    “It looks like you should,” Caedus agreed. “And may the Force be with you out there.”

    Luke snorted, half in disgust and half in humor. “Thanks, I guess.” He stepped through the door and started across the anteroom, his disappointment hanging in the Force as heavy as fog on Dagobah.
    “Good-bye, Jacen.”

    It did not escape Caedus that Luke had departed without returning the traditional kind wishes, but that was probably too much to ask of someone who had just been brought to task. Caedus waited until his uncle had passed out of sight, then closed the door and turned to find SD-XX standing at his back.

    “That went well,” The droid said. “For a time, it appeared you would have to kill him, too.”

  11. GuardianAngel1911 November 18, 2012 at 6:54 pm -      #11

    Luke showing off by making Cadeus and his Admiral on another ship think he is on Cadeus’s capital ship. However he was never there, and yet he was, he created a perfect copy from across lightyears of distance from Cadeus and Cadeus not only didn’t sense the falsehood but didn’t realize until it vanished.
    Legacy of the Force: Inferno pg.105-109
    Darklighter’s voice came over the speaker a moment later.
    “Yes, Colonel?” In the background, Caedus could hear the rumble of
    discharging turbolaser batteries, and the crackle of shields dissipating exess
    energy. “We’re pretty busy right now, so I hope this isn’t another message
    of congratulations.”
    “It isn’t,” Caedus replied. “I wanted—I needed—to advise you
    that—”
    ” That help is on the way,” interrupted a familiar voice behind
    Caedus. “Be ready to exploit.”
    “Is that who I think it is?” Darklighter gasped.
    “Yes,” Luke’s voiced replied. “Carry on, Gavin.”
    Caedus was already spinning his meditation chair around, but the motor was far
    too slow for his comfort. As soon as he had a clear path into his day cabin, he
    dived over the armrest and rolled to his feet, lightsaber in hand. Luke stood
    about a meter away, dressed in a Stealth X flight suit staring at the weapon in
    Caedus’ hand with a bemused, slightly sad scowl.
    “Is it still that bad between us?” he asked.
    “You tell me,” Caedus continued to hold the lightsaber. “It
    wasn’t the Force urging me to press the attack, it was you.”
    “And you think that was a setup?” Luke asked.
    “I know it was.” Caedus allowed a bit of animosity to creep into his
    voice. “You tricked me into committing the Fourth Fleet to a dangerous
    attack, and only you can keep it from turning into a disaster. What is it you
    want in return?”
    Instead of looking smug, Luke’s face fell. “Nothing, Jacen. We didn’t set
    you up.” He reached into the Battlemeld and urged the Jedi to attack.
    “I just wanted you to know we could have.”
    Caedus didn’t know whether Luke was ordering the Jedi to attack the
    Commenorians—or him. Then the Force shuddered with the stunned anguish of
    thousands of beings perishing in a surprise attack, and Caedus half expected to
    feel the Anakin Solo bucking and twisting beneath his feet. But the deck
    remained reassuringly steady, and no damage sirens sounded, and Caedus finally
    began to understand that the Jedi threat had been an empty one. Their trick had
    been little more than a halfhearted attempt to intimidate him, to remind him
    they possessed both the courage and the means to destroy him—and the
    Alliance. But the very fact that they had warned instead of acting betrayed
    their bluff. As long as GAG controlled the academy grounds, they would never
    risk an assassination or treason. They were too frightened of his
    ruthlessness—of his brutality.
    Caedus returned his lightsaber to his belt, then gestured to the small tactical
    holodisplay in the corner of his day cabin. “Shall we see how the battle
    is progressing?”
    “Be my guest,” Luke responded. As Caedus crossed the cabin, Luke
    turned to watch but did not follow. “I think you’ll be impressed,
    Jacen”.
    When Caedus activated the holodisplay, he was impressed. Most of the identifier
    codes for the Commenorian capital ships were blinking in distress, their colors
    ranging from amber—for battle-impaired—to deep red for totally crippled.
    And Gavin Darklighter was taking full advantage. The forward elements of the
    Fourth Fleet were already moving through the enemy lines. Knowing that they
    stood no chance against Alliance Star Destroyers, the Hutt marauders and
    corvettes abandoned their landing force and started to withdraw.
    As the battle continued to unfold, Luke kept his distance from Caedus, watching
    the holodisplay from over near the observation bubble. Caedus was just as happy
    to have the extra space between them; he remained suspicious of Luke’s presence
    an dwas glad for the reaction time. After a minute, the Fourth reached
    turbolaser range and opened fire, targeting not the Hutts’ fleeing capital ships
    but the assault shuttles still dropping toward Balmorra’s surface.
    Caedus punched a comm pad on the holodisplay’s console. “Open a channel to
    Admiral Darklighter—” “Urgent priority,” Krova finished.
    “Right away, Colonel.” A moment later, Darklighter asked, “What
    is it, Colonel?”
    “Redirect your fire and pursue,” Caedus ordered. “Our first
    priority is the destruction of the Hutt fleet, not the landing force.
    “With all due respect, Colonel,” Darklighter said in a tone
    completely devoid of it, “We can’t abandon the Balmorrans to a Hutt
    ocupation, and it’s a lot easier to destroy those shuttles now than to fight
    their passengers dirtside.”
    “The Balmorrans will have to handle the occupation themselves.”
    Caedus said. “I want those capital ships destroyed—better to trap the
    Hutts on one world than let them occupy a dozen.”
    Darklighter remained silent, and over the comm channel Caedus could almost feel
    him struggling with his decision.
    “That’s an order, Admiral.”, Caedus said. “I know it seems
    wrong, but we’re not gioing to defeat the Confederation by blowing up shuttles.
    We need to kill the big ships.”
    Darklighter remained silent a moment longer, then sighed. “Very well,
    Colonel. Redirecting fire and pursuing.” Caedus watched as the Fourth
    Fleet accelerated after the Hutt capital ships and began to hammer their
    sterns. When the first marauder designator turned red and faded into
    destruction, Luke’s voice sounded from where he had remained standing.
    “You planned this. You sacrificed a whole planet—”
    “I foresaw it,” Caedus interrupted, turning back to his uncle.
    “All I did was take advantage…of…”
    He let the sentence trail off as he realized Luke was no longer standing there.
    Caedus frowned and extended his Force-awareness first to his entire day cabin,
    then to the entire Anakin Solo. He felt no sign of his uncle’s presence
    anywhere.
    “Luke?”
    SD-XX emerged from his security station and ran his electronic gave around the
    perimeter of the cabin, then reported, “There’s no one here,
    Colonel.”
    “What about Luke Skywalker?” Caedus asked.
    “I was just talking to him.”
    SD-XX fixed his blue photoreceptors on Caedus’ face. “You were
    talking,” he said. “But there was no one here. I assumed your
    circuits were misfiring again.”
    Caedus considered this, wondering whether his anxiety over being discovered
    might be making him imagine things. Then he remembered Gavin Darklighter had
    not only spoken to Luke, but also reacted to his instructions.
    “No, he was here.” Caedus opened himself to the battlemeld again and
    felt his uncle among the other Jedi, his presence filled with sadness and
    disapproval…and admonition. “I don’t know how, but he was here.”

  12. ZomBatum November 18, 2012 at 6:55 pm -      #12

    Luke vs UnuThul I bolded the more important parts, also in the point where he is saying nothing could move him, that is not hyperbole.

    Dark Nest 3, The Swarm War

    Luke killed the last of Raynar’s bodyguards by Force-slamming
    them into the wall so hard their thoraxes burst, then the two Jedi were on one
    another, their lightsabers flashing toward each other’s heads with all the
    speed and might they could summon.

    That was the trouble with powerful men-especially younger ones. Awed by their
    own strength, they so often believed strength was the answer to every problem.
    Luke was older and wiser. While Raynar swung, he pivoted.

    As Raynar’s gold blade sliced the air where Luke’s head had been, Luke’s boot
    was kicking him behind the ankles, knocking his legs out from under him and
    stretching him out flat.

    But Raynar was a Jedi, and all Jedi were quick. He caught himself in the Force,
    levitating himself just long enough to bring his golden blade sweeping in at
    Luke’s shoulder.

    Luke had no choice but to block with his blade, and no place to block but the
    forearm. Raynar’s lightsaber went spinning off, still securely in the grasp of
    his three-fingered hand, and caught one of Luke’s bugcrunchers squarely in the
    back. The weapon sliced through six centimeters of laminanium armor before the
    severed forearm flew free.

    The blade deactivated, and the hilt disappeared into the tangle of death and
    destruction at the droid’s feet.

    The pain of losing an arm might have forced a common Jedi to stop fighting, but
    Raynar was no common Jedi. He had
    the Force potential of the Colony to draw on,
    and he did that now, swinging his remaining hand up to hurl Luke down the
    corridor as he had done before.

    But this time, Luke was ready. He
    placed his own hand in front of Raynar’s and rooted himself in the heart of the
    Force, and when he did that, he became the very essence of the immovable
    object. Nothing could dislodge him-not one of Lando’s asteroid tuggers, not the
    Megador’s sixteen ion engines, not the black hole at the center of the galaxy
    itself.

    Luke stood that way, waiting, dimly aware that his surviving bugcrunchers were
    moving into defensive positions, one at his back and the other just inside the
    burst hatch. Raynar
    continued to struggle, trying to hurl Luke down the corridor, trying to move
    him a single centimeter.

    Luke did not budge, and finally Raynar
    stopped struggling and met his eyes with a stunned and anguished gaze.

    The Master sighed and shook his head. “What am I going to do with you,
    Raynar Thul?” he asked. “You learn nothing from your mistakes.”

    Luke deactivated his lightsaber and picked Raynar up by the collar and slammed
    him against the wall. He used
    the Force to pin him there, waiting for an answer
    to his question, watching as the expression in his captive’s pained eyes turned
    from astonishment to anger to calculation.

  13. Chuck inglish November 18, 2012 at 6:57 pm -      #13

    Quicksilver is standard equipment.

  14. Nomad November 18, 2012 at 7:02 pm -      #14

    Nice Iron Man icon Guardian.

  15. GuardianAngel1911 November 18, 2012 at 7:05 pm -      #15

    @Nomad
    thanks, it’s from the new Marvel now #1 of Ironman, liquid metal Ironman armor, there’s telling physics to fuck off and then, there’s the things Tony Stark does. What’s worse the armor in the suitcase just looked like bars of silver, and he was able to sneak it past security, he then proceeded to kick ass and threaten to let someone splat on the ground to interrogate them. Also this is just his test new tech armor not even a combat armor.
    Tony’s a beast

  16. The Expert November 18, 2012 at 7:14 pm -      #16

    Everything is back to normal just what i wished

  17. GuardianAngel1911 November 18, 2012 at 7:21 pm -      #17

    In response to the last Disqus post of how much can Luke take, I give you his duel against Jacen Solo aka Darth Cadeus (seriously da fuck is it with that bloodline and the damn darkside?)
    Legacy of the Force 6: Inferno
    Luke didn’t give Jacen a chance to surrender. He just sprang. Ben’s jaw dropped, and Jacen started to spin, snatching his lightsaber from his belt and igniting it in the same motion, bringing the emerald blade around high to protect his heart and head. But Luke was attacking low, striking for the kidney to disable in the most painful way possible. Jacen’s eyes widened. He flipped his lightsaber down in the same moment Luke’s met flesh.

    The tip sank a few centimeters, drawing a pained hiss as it touched a kidney, then Jacen’s blade made contact and knocked it aside. Even that small wound would have left most humans paralyzed with agony. But Jacen thrived on pain, fed on it to make himself stronger and faster. He simply completed his pivot and landed a rib-crunching roundhouse.

    Luke stumbled back, his chest filled with fire. Jacen had caught him on the barely healed scar from his first fight with Lumiya, and now his breath was coming in short painful gasps. Good, Luke thought. This was supposed to hurt.

    Jacen followed the kick with a high slash. Luke blocked and spun inside, landing an elbow smash to the temple that dropped Jacen to his knees. He brought his own knee up under Jacen’s chin, hearing teeth crack-and relishing it. He parried a weak slash at his thighs, then drew his blade up diagonally where his nephew’s chest should have been.

    Except Jacen was sliding backward, one hand extended behind him, using the Force to pull himself toward a tendril-draped rack in the far corner of the torture chamber. Luke leapt after him, bringing his lightsaber around in a low, clearing sweep.

    Jacen stopped pulling and started to swing his free hand around. Luke was ready, had been expecting this since the fight started. Still flying through the air, he raised his own hand, palm outward, and pushed the Force out through his arm to form a protective shield.

    The lightning never came. Instead, Luke was blindsided by something heavy and spiky, and his body exploded into pain as he slammed into a durasteel wall. He found himself pinned in place, trapped by a bed of thorns Jacen had hurled across the cabin. He felt the hot sting of the thorns pumping their venom into him. His hearing faded and his head began to spin, and he saw Jacen, one hand still raised to keep Luke pinned, sneering and taking his time rising. Bad mistake.

    Luke raised his lightsaber, slashing through the thorn bed as he sprang. Jacen scrambled to his feet, barely bringing his weapon up in time to block a vicious downstroke. Luke landed a snap-kick to the stomach that lifted Jacen a meter off the deck, then followed it with a slash to the neck-which Jacen ducked. He came up under Luke’s guard, holding his weapon with one hand and driving a Force-enhanced punch into Luke’s ribs with the other, striking for the same place he had kicked earlier. Luke’s chest exploded into pain, and he found himself croaking instead of breathing.

    Luke struck again with his lightsaber, using both hands and putting all his strength into the attack, beating his nephew’s guard down so far that Jacen’s emerald blade bit into his own shoulder.

    Jacen kicked at Luke’s legs, catching the side of a knee. Something popped and Luke felt himself going down. On the way, he swept his blade horizontally. Jacen screamed, and the smell of scorched bone and singed hair filled the air. Knowing Jacen would strike despite the wound, Luke rolled over his throbbing knee and spun back to his feet with a clearing sweep.
    His blade met Jacen’s in a shower of brilliant sparks. Luke freed one hand and drove a finger-strike at Jacen’s eyes.

    Jacen turned his head, but Luke’s little finger scratched across something soft and bulbous. Jacen roared and stumbled away, shaking his head. Luke feinted a dash toward his nephew’s blind side, then-as Jacen pivoted to protect his injured eye-Luke hit him with a Force wave.

    Jacen went flying, and it required only a soft nudge to steer him into a tendril-draped rack in the far corner. He hit with so much cracking and crashing that Luke worried the rack had broken, but the thin tendrils quickly entwined Jacen in a net of pulsing green.

    Luke started forward, his injured knee buckling each time he put weight on it. The rack’s slender tendrils were tightening around Jacen, cutting into his flesh and oozing a yellowish irritant that made skin puff up and split. Jacen began to slash his lightsaber up and down, cutting the vines away two and three at a time. If Luke wanted to finish this-and it seemed like a good idea, given how battered he was himself-he had only a few seconds.

    Luke closed to within two meters without saying a word. What point would there have been? Jacen wasn’t going to surrender, and Luke wouldn’t have believed him if he offered. It was better to attack quickly, while he still had the advantage. He brought his lightsaber up to strike.
    “Wait!” Ben cried from behind him. “Let me do it!”

    Astonished and appalled, Luke put a little too much weight on his injured knee-and fell as it buckled. He rolled beyond the reach of Jacen’s lightsaber and looked back across the chamber. Ben was still strapped in the Embrace, but he had summoned the vibrodagger off the floor and was battling to cut himself free of the chair’s lashing tentacles.

    Luke shook his head. “I don’t think so, Ben.”
    “You have to!” Ben insisted. “I deserve it!”
    “Deserve it?” Luke returned to his feet, far angrier with Jacen than he had been just a moment earlier. “To kill someone?”
    “You don’t understand, “Ben insisted. “It was my fault. If I don’t do this…”
    “I said no, “Luke interrupted. How could Ben believe that he had a right to kill someone? “You’re very confused, Ben. We’ll talk about this later.”

    Giving his son no further chance to argue, Luke turned back to Jacen, who by now was almost free. Only one leg remained caught, though it was still entwined in a half a dozen places. Luke limped forward, circling toward Jacen’s trapped side.

    Jacen stopped cutting at the tendrils and flung a hand toward the ceiling.
    “Dad, look — ”

    Luke was already throwing himself to the deck. A tremendous crash sounded from the illumination panel, and the chamber fell instantly dark. He rolled opposite the direction he had just been moving, but wasn’t quick enough. The fixture smashed into his head and shoulders, slamming his face into the deck. He heard something crunch in his nose and was instantly choking on his own thick blood.

    Jacen’s lightsaber droned twice, filling that corner of the torture chamber with flickering green light. Luke Force-hurled the light fixture off his back, then hobbled to his feet.

    Jacen launched himself over Luke in a high Force flip. They exchanged perfunctory attacks as he tumbled past, then Luke was alone in the corner, watching the green column of his nephew’s lightsaber move toward the door. Jacen was running.

    Luke spat out a mouthful of blood and Force-leapt after his nephew, at the same time reaching out to drag him back. They came together in a blinding flurry of sparks, their blades colliding faster than the eye could follow, filling the dark chamber with flashing fans of color. Blows came out of nowhere. Luke caught another kick in his knee and found himself calling on the Force to keep his balance. He landed an elbow and felt a bone in Jacen’s face shatter.

    Jacen stumbled back, groaning, the green light of his lightsaber briefly illuminating Ben’s face as the boy struggled to cut himself free. Luke pressed forward, angling toward the Embrace to keep Jacen away from Ben. Jacen fought his way over anyway, placing himself squarely between Luke and the chair, then gave ground and vanished behind the green ribbons his lightsaber was weaving through the darkness.

    Luke Force-leapt after him, knowing that this Jacen-the Jacen he had caught torturing his son-would not hesitate to take Ben hostage… or to kill him. Luke landed half a meter in front of Jacen’s lightsaber and quickly beat down his nephew’s guard-too quickly. When he did not glimpse a face in the light of his own blade, Luke knew something was wrong and stopped.
    Which was exactly what Jacen was waiting for, of course.

    Luke had barely started to turn before a loop of thin tendril slipped over his head and tightened around his throat, oozing toxin and cutting deep into the flesh. The wound swelled and burned as if it were on fire. Luke whipped his lightsaber around, trying to cut Jacen off his back, but Jacen was already spinning away, tightening his garrote and placing Luke’s body between himself and the deadly blade.

    Should have let me go when you had the chance, “Jacen snarled. “Now you’re done.”

    Luke slammed an elbow into Jacen’s ribs, but it was like hitting a permacrete wall. Instead of continuing to fight, he accelerated into the spin, using the Force to hurl them both into the nearest wall. Jacen hit first, his skull clunking hard into the durasteel. The garrote loosened a little. Luke dropped his lightsaber, bracing one hand against the other so he could use the strength of both arms to hammer his elbow up under Jacen’s chin.

    The garrote went completely slack. Luke followed up with a palm-heel to the same target, using the impact to drive himself away from his attacker and buy some maneuvering room.

    Then Jacen let out a bloodcurdling scream and stumbled away, a black silhouette vanishing into the darkness of the torture chamber.
    Luke stepped back in shock and confusion, summoning his lightsaber to hand, but knowing by the surprise in Jacen’s scream that this was not another trick.
    “It’s okay, Dad, “Ben said from beside him. “It’s just me.”

    Ben took the glow rod from Luke’s belt and activated it. Jacen was crawling across the torture chamber, the hilt of a vibrodagger protruding from between his shoulder blades. His face was inflamed and misshapen, his clothes were smoking and tattered, a hand-sized rectangle of scorched skull showed through his scalp, and still he was stretching a hand toward his lightsaber.

    Luke re-ignited his own lightsaber, then pointed out the door. “Artoo is in the hangar prepping a skiff for launch,” He said. “Go help him while I finish up here.”

  18. Soldier's Shadow November 18, 2012 at 7:50 pm -      #18

    “But wasn’t Quicksilver apart of the plot? I think Time Bangle was the only non-canon item.”

    Exactly. Dante acquired Quicksilver after he defeated the flaming horse demon in DMC3 and the subsequent cutscene showed him acquire and utilize it.

    -

  19. s'Kwol xah cigam November 18, 2012 at 7:50 pm -      #19

    “I don’t know you’d have to ask a Dante expert. I just know that’s what I was told about what his standard equipment should be”

    Quicksilver is an ability he gets in the story, he’s able to slow time and speed himself up.
    ===
    Test spaces

    check 1 2

  20. s'Kwol xah cigam November 18, 2012 at 7:51 pm -      #20

    Damn. Was nice while it lasted.

  21. ZomBatum November 18, 2012 at 7:57 pm -      #21

    “Quicksilver is an ability he gets in the story, he’s able to slow time and speed himself up.”

    Luke fights with his opposition seemingly in slow motion quite often…

  22. GuardianAngel1911 November 18, 2012 at 8:00 pm -      #22

    @Lowk
    lol I’m reading the Dresden vs Potter Thread and where Disqus kicked in the order of posts is all kinds of fucked to the up. It’s funny to read the scrambled nonsense

  23. Rorschach November 18, 2012 at 8:08 pm -      #23

    Thank God. We’re back to normal! Hopefully some of the lost Veterans can now return.

    In response to the match, all I know is that EU Luke is really powerful. I’m pretty sure Luke will win this, unless Dante has something to combat his force powers.

  24. GuardianAngel1911 November 18, 2012 at 8:11 pm -      #24

    well this is turning out better than it was starting out

  25. s'Kwol xah cigam November 18, 2012 at 8:32 pm -      #25

    “well this is turning out better than it was starting out”

    still seems to be a stomp…
    Unrelated: Bleeding Edge was better.

  26. GuardianAngel1911 November 18, 2012 at 8:33 pm -      #26

    Luke using a technique to see memories and erase them to instead rip a woman’s spirit as she once was from the now eldritch Abeloth. Still shows Luke knows how to basically blow your mind to oblivion
    ——-

    Luke could see a kaleidoscope of images, all drawn from Callista’s past, much of it with him, some of it from more ancient times. He marveled at her strength, the power it had required her to survive the loss of her original body, the strength it took her to remain partly Callista in the face of this overwhelming alien force.

    “Luke …” She spoke with both her voice and her mind. “Join with me. Save me.”

    He wrapped himself more fully around her, in body and in the Force. “I will. I will save you.”

    And he tore at her.

    It was an act of brutality, a perversion of the mnemotheraphy technique. It was like performing a surgical amputation with a dull stone ax weighing ten kilos. With all the strength he possessed in the Force, he yanked her away from her body, away from Abeloth.

    He could not have done it to a living being. But Callista did not belong where she was. The body she now inhabited, the broad life force that was Abeloth—they were not her true home. She had no true home. And Luke tore her free of the things that anchored her to the physical world.

    It was a physical effort, too. Luke staggered free of Callista’s body and fell to his knees, drained in an instant of all his strength.

    Now he could see with just his own eyes. Callista staggered back from him, her mouth open, a shriek of pain, half Abeloth and half someone else, none of it Callista, pouring out of her.

  27. GuardianAngel1911 November 18, 2012 at 9:20 pm -      #27

    @Lowk
    agreed, though this looks like an alt armor not a replacement to Bleeding Edge so likely he still has it

  28. Amm0vamp1r3 November 18, 2012 at 9:55 pm -      #28

    DId it change back or was that milk i just drank bad?

  29. GuardianAngel1911 November 18, 2012 at 10:08 pm -      #29

    @Amm0
    it’s back to normal

  30. Amm0vamp1r3 November 18, 2012 at 10:10 pm -      #30

    Hopefully Debating will be to soon.
    -

  31. itcheyness November 18, 2012 at 10:28 pm -      #31

    Does anyone have the contact info of the people that left?

  32. Praetor Prefect November 18, 2012 at 10:30 pm -      #32

    God bless admin, god bless. WOOOOOOORDPREEEEEESSSSS!!!!!

  33. Commander Cross November 18, 2012 at 10:32 pm -      #33

    @Itcheyness

    If I knew how to contact AHEM outside of the Inheritance forums, I’d contact him ASAP, by now. T_T

    As it is, let’s be glad we’re both at the topia and be fine with it for now, okay?
    Anywho, looks like WordPress got a bit of an upgrade of sorts, I see.

  34. Praetor Prefect November 18, 2012 at 10:37 pm -      #34

    @Guardian Angel
    Which book are those quotes from?

  35. Dr. Doctor (with Lowk's Jetpack) November 18, 2012 at 11:09 pm -      #35

    So I refresh the page and scroll down, reading at least three comments before realizing something seemed funny…then I realized Disqus was gone. So I grabbed Lowk’s jetpack again.
    =
    Still wondering why people voted up *and* down on my calcs earlier. What is there to like or dislike?

  36. GuardianAngel1911 November 18, 2012 at 11:13 pm -      #36

    @Praetor
    Fate of the Jedi – Conviction

  37. Rorschach November 18, 2012 at 11:13 pm -      #37

    @Dr. Doctor
    Doesn’t Lowk need his jetpack?

  38. Dr. Doctor (with Lowk's Jetpack) November 18, 2012 at 11:18 pm -      #38

    @Rorscach:
    It’s arguable that my theft of his jetpack was what caused the Disqus Apocalypse in the first place.

  39. TheSorrow November 18, 2012 at 11:18 pm -      #39

    No, Lowk has magic now.

  40. GuardianAngel1911 November 18, 2012 at 11:19 pm -      #40

    You see that’s why I just got a job at Stark Industries working alongside Tony, got myself a copy of the Liquid Metal Armor.

  41. Rorschach November 18, 2012 at 11:39 pm -      #41

    @Dr. Doctor
    “@Rorscach:
    It’s arguable that my theft of his jetpack was what caused the Disqus Apocalypse in the first place.”
    Well, at least the few that did survive it are still here.
    @TheSorrow
    “No, Lowk has magic now.”
    Magic does not always mean flight capabilities. What kind of magic?

  42. ZomBlizzard (Damn you Disqus!) November 18, 2012 at 11:46 pm -      #42

    … I don’t recall Lowk ever acquiring a Jetpack through legal means…

  43. Praetor Prefect November 18, 2012 at 11:49 pm -      #43

    @Rorshach
    The friendship kind of magic :P

  44. Gluttonous-Behemoth November 18, 2012 at 11:55 pm -      #44

    Nerp.

  45. Praetor Prefect November 19, 2012 at 12:09 am -      #45

    Didn’t he used to be Dr LowkMcninja? Cause I liked that one best.

  46. Tarbel November 19, 2012 at 12:30 am -      #46

    Can’t you guys at least label long lines of text in a way that you can understand what it is saying before posting it. It is really annoying to have to read through something 200 words long to get like one feat.


    I believe Dante’s quicksilver is an acquired ability and part of his standard equipment in DMC 1. It’s not known if he kept the ability in the sequels, although it is assumed that he did.

    If Dante does get his quicksilver, he can effectively slow/speed up time by at least 300X to over 1600X, based on my calc in post 162 here: www.factpile.com/6458-dante-vs-iron-man/comment-page-2/#comments

    I ask now, how fast is Luke, in response time and speed.

  47. StealthRanger November 19, 2012 at 12:33 am -      #47

    Luke has nanonsecond reactions and I think is hypersonic, sadly the Disqus comments were deleted

  48. ZomBaron Somebody November 19, 2012 at 12:35 am -      #48

    “Luke has nanonsecond reactions”

    And the ability to mindwipe, as well as being a much more serious fighter. Do I even need ta say it?

  49. Amm0vamp1r3 November 19, 2012 at 12:42 am -      #49

    dante doesnt have defense against mind control/wipe etc etc.
    -

  50. Metacosmic Entity November 19, 2012 at 3:07 am -      #50

    The Entity is pleased. It seems sanity has been restored to the realm of geeky minds. Now the question arises, who among you will cast for Dante? I see that Luke has a number of fans here. Side thought, who thinks Harry Dresden vs. Vulcan would make a good fight? We give Harry winter armour and peak incarnation, then we take Vulcan at his prime before Darwin was ripped from him.

  51. BillDing November 19, 2012 at 5:00 am -      #51

    THE OLD FORMAT IS BACK!

    I’m so happy!

  52. OMEGAMI November 19, 2012 at 5:10 am -      #52

    Dammit, I just got adapted to the new habit and now they change it back, this makes me feel just as weird as Disqus made me feel.

  53. GuardianAngel1911 November 19, 2012 at 7:53 am -      #53

    @Tarbel
    when I originally had posted it They had the important sections bolded.

  54. Praetor Prefect November 19, 2012 at 7:59 am -      #54

    Anyway, does Dante have a defense against über TK?

  55. GuardianAngel1911 November 19, 2012 at 8:04 am -      #55

    Not that’s been stated so far. Right now his only chance is to win the quick draw. His time slow/stop vs Lukes mental TK slam restraint. However thought always beats movement, even against a demon/half demon

  56. Tarbel November 19, 2012 at 8:41 am -      #56

    Can I get the evidence for Luke’s speed?
    And for Dante’s speed, I have about Mach 1 with Alastor and quicksilver speeds/slows by at least 310 times, meaning he is essentially at least Mach 310 for as long as quicksilver and Alastor is used. Alastor feat is called on post 188 in Dante vs Umar thread: www.factpile.com/8067-dante-vs-umar/comment-page-2/#comments

  57. Tarbel November 19, 2012 at 8:42 am -      #57

    Post 168 in the Dante vs Umar thread, my bad.

  58. Type-Fallstar November 19, 2012 at 8:47 am -      #58

    Luke wins.

    “Notify me of followup comments via e-mail

    Notify me of new posts by email.”
    ???

  59. Dr. Doctor (with Lowk's Jetpack) November 19, 2012 at 10:36 am -      #59

    Dante activates Quicksilver through thought, and we can all agree he thinks (and reacts) pretty damned fast.
    I had my “Mission 8 Opening was really only 4.24 seconds long” calc here, but it got eaten.

  60. ZomBaron Somebody November 19, 2012 at 12:02 pm -      #60

    “Dante activates Quicksilver through thought, and we can all agree he thinks (and reacts) pretty damned fast.”

    Not as fast as Luke, he could mindwipe Dante first, of course for Dante to use QS off the bat would mean no CIS. However there is always CIS, with which, Dante is a world class douche, that fks around and talks too much. Luke does not.

  61. Dr. Doctor (with Lowk's Jetpack) November 19, 2012 at 12:05 pm -      #61

    “Dante is a world class douche, that fks around and talks too much. Luke does not.”
    Apparently DMC2 Dante is doesn’t talk too much or fuck around.
    =
    Though this is a stomp in favor of Luke by all stretches of the concept. I am just trying to salvage something for team Dante.

  62. ka-tet19 November 19, 2012 at 12:50 pm -      #62

    the old factpile is back! IM SO HAPPY. he can go devil trigger and use chrono heart too to advance his time stop abilities. although a defense to luke wiping his mind im not sure. is there any limitations to that ability? like if dante was moving to fast etc.
    side note: both those pictures are really bad ass

  63. PrimusxPilus November 19, 2012 at 1:03 pm -      #63

    Dante would probably talk shit about a “pretty sword get it from Disney?” Then get bisected

  64. Amm0vamp1r3 November 19, 2012 at 1:05 pm -      #64

    But isnt Dante from DmC 2 a serious fighter?

  65. ka-tet19 November 19, 2012 at 1:12 pm -      #65

    yeah dmc2 dante is the all business one

  66. Amm0vamp1r3 November 19, 2012 at 1:16 pm -      #66

    That is the current right? My friend said 4 is,which one is it?

  67. ZomBaron Somebody November 19, 2012 at 1:20 pm -      #67

    DMC 2 is the most recent. So, he’s a bit more serious, but also, in all of DMC 2, he never once uses Quicksilver, his only possible shot at victory (As it is in most Dante matches)

  68. ka-tet19 November 19, 2012 at 1:20 pm -      #68

    dmc2 because 4 takes place between 1 and 2. thats a common mistake though i thought that for a while too

  69. ka-tet19 November 19, 2012 at 1:21 pm -      #69

    its an ability absorbed into his body so he still has it

  70. ZomBaron Somebody November 19, 2012 at 1:24 pm -      #70

    “its an ability absorbed into his body so he still has it”

    Doesn’t matter if he doesn’t use it, he doesn’t use it.

  71. ZomBaron Somebody November 19, 2012 at 1:26 pm -      #71

    CIS means the likelyhood of Dante using Quicksilver is slim to none since in his last two most recent incarnations he didn’t use it once no matter how difficult his enemies.

  72. ka-tet19 November 19, 2012 at 1:27 pm -      #72

    what are you trying to say? that he cant use it? because he can since he still has the ability. or that he wouldn’t use it right away? because since hes all serious and he has atleast some knowledge of luke he’d go all out right from the start

  73. ZomBaron Somebody November 19, 2012 at 1:30 pm -      #73

    I’m saying CIS shows him to have not used it in two games no matter how hairy the situation got. Unless you can show him using it in combat in DMC 2, he seems to have just forgot about it.

  74. Doc Samson with BFG (over) 9000 November 19, 2012 at 1:31 pm -      #74

    Emerald Lightning for the win.

  75. ka-tet19 November 19, 2012 at 1:35 pm -      #75

    thats not really cis its just that the skill hadn’t been thought of yet

  76. ZomBaron Somebody November 19, 2012 at 1:38 pm -      #76

    “thats not really cis its just that the skill hadn’t been thought of yet”

    It had by DMC 4, so no. Also that doesn’t matter, you should take that up with DMC’s creators for making a whacked out timeline, he acquired Quicksilver chronologically two games ago, and hasn’t used it since.

  77. ka-tet19 November 19, 2012 at 1:47 pm -      #77

    dont you think your grasping at straws a little bit by saying that dante cant use quick silver by cis. and dmc4 dante didnt need it. At no point in that entire game is a single fuck given by him.

  78. ZomBaron Somebody November 19, 2012 at 1:51 pm -      #78

    “dont you think your grasping at straws a little bit by saying that dante cant use quick silver by cis. and dmc4 dante didnt need it. At no point in that entire game is a single fuck given by him.”

    No, I’m pointing out, in the two most recent chronologically games, (where you’re saying he’s underwent a personality change even that made him more serious) he didn’t use an ability that would have helped him immensely.

  79. ZomBaron Somebody November 19, 2012 at 1:54 pm -      #79

    I don’t evenb know why we’re discussing irrelevancies, Nanosecond reactions, plus mindwiping means victory.

  80. ka-tet19 November 19, 2012 at 1:56 pm -      #80

    if there something that can get past the mindwiping then he stands a chance. did anyone ever answer my question?

  81. ZomBaron Somebody November 19, 2012 at 1:58 pm -      #81

    “if there something that can get past the mindwiping then he stands a chance. did anyone ever answer my question?”

    What question?

  82. ka-tet19 November 19, 2012 at 2:09 pm -      #82

    what limitations are there to lukes mind wiping ability. like dante moving to fast

  83. ZomBaron Somebody November 19, 2012 at 2:35 pm -      #83

    “what limitations are there to lukes mind wiping ability. like dante moving to fast”

    Luke sees people in slow motion when in combat. So, Dante isn’t gonna move too fast for Luke, besides, nanosecond reactions mean he can do it before Dante can even move.

  84. Chuck inglish November 19, 2012 at 2:41 pm -      #84

    Can some post that nano second feat agian

  85. ka-tet19 November 19, 2012 at 2:42 pm -      #85

    to what extent does he see things in slow motion? how much slower?

  86. ZomBaron Somebody November 19, 2012 at 2:58 pm -      #86

    “”Luke—!”
    Leia’s scream distracted him. He flicked his gaze towards the sound of her voice, saw her and the others turn to look at him—

    It was enough for Guri. She took a long, sliding step and punched—Luke backpedaled, but even so, her fist hit him in the belly, hard.

    “Oooff!”. She followed up with an elbow, but he dived away, rolled and turned, came up with his hands lifted as she darted after him—He lost contact with the Force. He was on his own—She slapped him next to the ear and he went down hard. If he didn’t do something fast, she was going to kill him!

    He managed a breath as Guri raised her hand, formed now into a blade instead of a fist, a grin of triumph lightingi her features—When he blew out his air, he blew his fear out with it. He had to trust the Force completely—Guri slowed, as if she were suddenly mired in thickened time. He saw her hand descending, saw it moving to smash him, but it was so incredibly slow, why, he could easily just roll aside and stand, before she ever reached him…He did so. He felt as if he were moving at normal speed, though there was a crackling feeling to his motion, a sound like a strong wind whistling about his ears.

    He came up, pivoted, thrust his open palm against the descending chop, shoved it aside. He used his left leg, a sweep that caught Guri behind the right ankle. Her feet left the floor, still moving in slow motion, and she fell, floated down, hit flat on her back…Time speeded up. Leia’s yell still echoed down the corridor. Guri hit the floor.”

    He is able to see her (Someone who is ‘impossibly fast’) as though she is moving in slow motion to a degree, that his moving normally seems faster than her. I think somewhere she was calced at being hypersonic. Also, he did all of that before Leia’s sound could fade from her scream.

  87. Tarbel November 19, 2012 at 3:01 pm -      #87

    ZomBaron Somebody, I see a lot of unbacked claims :/

    As in:
    instance of mindwipe
    how fast it works

    nanosecond RT

  88. ZomBaron Somebody November 19, 2012 at 3:03 pm -      #88

    “ZomBaron Somebody, I see a lot of unbacked claims :/

    As in:
    instance of mindwipe
    how fast it works
    nanosecond RT”

    They were already shown in the previous Disqus debate. So how about you don’t talk out of your ass eh?

  89. Tarbel November 19, 2012 at 3:05 pm -      #89

    I didnt see the disqus one, so I am sorry. But I don’t have the feats now which makes doesn’t make much of a difference.

  90. ZomBaron Somebody November 19, 2012 at 3:07 pm -      #90

    Black Fleet Trilogy 3 Tyrant’s Test
    Less than five minutes later, Li Stonn was climbing into his rented speeder, the datacard securely tucked away. But he did not immediately drive away. Sitting at the controls, Luke reached out into the listening post and found its two occupants excitedly discussing their surprise visitor.

    The event had given both such inexplicable pleasure that he hated to take those memories away from them, but he had no choice. He had already blocked the machine records of his visit from being written to the logs. Compressing a nerve here, a blood vessel there, Luke brought on a moment of unconscious paralysis, and in that moment swept the memories from their minds.


    Fate of the Jedi: Vortex
    Luke raised his lightsaber and grasped the Sith in the Force, intending to bring him tumbling into an ignited blade … then felt something catch him across the ankles. He had no time to be astonished, barely even the nanosecond required to realize Abeloth had survived her fall into the cleft.



    There ya go, now Dante can officially lose, are you happy?

  91. ka-tet19 November 19, 2012 at 3:36 pm -      #91

    that sounds like hyperbole.

  92. Aelfinn November 19, 2012 at 3:36 pm -      #92

    Thank you, Admin. I appreciate greatly that you listened to our concerns. It means a lot.

    “barely even the nanosecond required to realize Abeloth had survived her fall into the cleft.”

    This could easily be hyperbole, exaggeration, or a literary device. Do we have other evidence of such speeds to compare this to?

  93. ZomBaron Somebody November 19, 2012 at 3:51 pm -      #93

    Hyperbole doesn’t usually incorporate such specific terms. You can’t just say something is hyperbole and that make it so. He is fighting the very embodiment of Chaos in Star Wars, a Goddess in many senses of the word. It goes on to say how she is dozens of times more powerful in the force than even Luke. Needing to work at such speeds is more than reasonable. Nothing in their fight would lead you to believe that is hyperbole. He’s been shown to move too fast for some of the most powerful Jedi to even see, nanosecond reactions does not ring as hyperbole.

  94. ka-tet19 November 19, 2012 at 3:58 pm -      #94

    unless you can provide another example of this im lead to believe that its hyperbole.

  95. ZomBaron Somebody November 19, 2012 at 4:03 pm -      #95

    “unless you can provide another example of this im lead to believe that its hyperbole.”

    LMAO, this is hilarious, well, unless you can prove Dante still has Quicksilver as of his most recent incarnation, I’m led to believe it is somehow done away with(I can do that too)… The guy has shown time and time again to be the fastest thing in Star Wars, but you just want to cry hyperbole because he has a feat that utterly crushes Dante. He moves too fast for force enhanced individuals to see, and you’re saying nanosecond reactions are hyperbole.

  96. ka-tet19 November 19, 2012 at 4:11 pm -      #96

    we already did explain that since its a skill absorbed into his body obviously he still has it. there is a huge difference between using a sketchy feat that seems like a text book example of hyperbole and using a skill that wasn’t used by that specific chronological incarnation because it just wasn’t invented yet. if he demonstrates this skill so often and has so many examples of intense speed use those and prove your point

  97. ZomBaron Somebody November 19, 2012 at 4:17 pm -      #97

    So the fuck what if it was absorbed into his body, you have no way of knowing what happens between games. He sure as fuck doesn’t have it in 4 or 2. So nonetheless, Quicksilver is a non-factor since his most recent incarnation haven’t used it, despite becoming ‘serious’. Nothing about that quote is a textbook example of hyperbole either, they used a specific technical term to describe Luke’s reaction, hyperbole typically uses analogies and figures of speech. You clearly will not concede no matter how much proof I present, the Guri feat alone puts his speed beyond Dante, Emerald Lightning, Mind-Wiping, or just cutting down Dante, Luke wins.

  98. Aelfinn November 19, 2012 at 4:19 pm -      #98

    “You can’t just say something is hyperbole and that make it so.”

    I’m not. I’m saying it SEEMS like hyperbole. It COULD be one. If there are other examples, I’ll admit you are right. Abeloth was obviously supposed to be fast. I just want to get a clearer picture of how fast she is supposed to be, and the reaction times of Luke based off of that. It’s just that that one quote is unclear, and we would be giving Luke quite the speed with something like that. We want to cover our bases.

  99. ka-tet19 November 19, 2012 at 4:23 pm -      #99

    just cause he doesn’t use it in game play doesn’t mean he lost it. wanna prove he lost it give me an example of him losing the ability. as for evidence as soon as we poke a hole in your evidence you throw a tantrum. i gotta get off for now will be back on in hour or so

  100. ZomBaron Somebody November 19, 2012 at 4:27 pm -      #100

    “I’m not. I’m saying it SEEMS like hyperbole. It COULD be one. If there are other examples, I’ll admit you are right. Abeloth was obviously supposed to be fast. I just want to get a clearer picture of how fast she is supposed to be, and the reaction times of Luke based off of that. It’s just that that one quote is unclear, and we would be giving Luke quite the speed with something like that. We want to cover our bases.”

    Honestly, other than that, there isn’t much in the way of speed feats in their fight, however, lower force users like Palpatine move faster than Leia(A powerful force sensitive herself) could see. Now, generally the force enhances speed and power of an individual proportionally so, Luke is more powerful in the force than Palpatine, and Abeloth is dozens of times more powerful than Luke, the ugly beast powerscaling puts her at near massively hypersonic.

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