Master Chief Vs Engineer

Master Chief Vs Engineer

Here we have an interesting match in Master Chief (Halo) up against an Engineer from Prometheus.

For this match, MC gets no weapons. It’s strictly a battle of strength and will.

Fight takes place inside Madison Square Garden, set up for a basketball game.

Who would win?

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96 Comments on "Master Chief Vs Engineer"

  1. Nomad November 18, 2012 at 6:43 pm -      #1

    I think Chief can do it. Is he in his armor? I don’t remember the Engineer’s being able to pose much of a threat to a Spartan like Chief.

  2. TheSorrow November 18, 2012 at 6:48 pm -      #2

    While I could technically call Master Chief’s armor a weapon, considering it’s enhancing abilities. I think it was intended in this fight.

  3. Nomad November 18, 2012 at 7:24 pm -      #3

    Even without the armor, I still think Master Chief will win.

  4. PrimusxPilus November 19, 2012 at 10:43 am -      #4

    @sorrow
    I think in its essence is a “prosthetic” like Tony Stark called his in the Iron Man movies

  5. Murder November 19, 2012 at 3:47 pm -      #5

    Engineer wins. He’s a freakin space marine!

  6. Nomad November 20, 2012 at 6:38 pm -      #6

    Soooooo MC for the win?

  7. halonumba1 November 20, 2012 at 10:57 pm -      #7

    Are you stupid the engineer is pretty much a brute In The movie you saw him just go off rage on a regular humans and one was able to get.mc is a killing machine not a regular human.MC wins he could won without his armor

  8. the_man_with The_Answers November 21, 2012 at 6:19 pm -      #8

    “Are you stupid the engineer is pretty much a brute”
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    Not even close. Brutes are as fast as SPARTANs, and stronger than them to boot. They are like giant bullet eating gorillas that can run 30mph+ and lift multiple tons.
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    The engineer probably struggles running 15-20mph and probably maxes out at 1,000 or so pounds (Maybe 1,500lbs).

  9. Murder November 21, 2012 at 9:22 pm -      #9

    the engineer is as strong as 10 spartans and just as fast. he was awoken from a million year sleep so of course he was out of it.

  10. Amm0vamp1r3 November 21, 2012 at 9:31 pm -      #10

    Whats the biggest strength feat he has shown?

  11. ZomBaron Somebody November 21, 2012 at 9:42 pm -      #11

    … Fairly certain he meant ‘Brute’ in a broader sense of the word tmwta.

  12. Murder November 21, 2012 at 9:57 pm -      #12

    he ripped a tank turret off in the angel destruction. these guys created almost all life in the alien U and reserved the best of their bioengineering for themselves. Of coure, most of the EU has prob been redcon since Scott took the reigns again… still i stick with the old school and the guy did take several gunshots with no flinch that has to count for something consodering spartans can be killed by a single bullet.

  13. Amm0vamp1r3 November 21, 2012 at 10:00 pm -      #13

    What kind of gun did he tank? Spartans can die from a single bullet but thats a sniper, pretty high calibur i think.

  14. Murder November 21, 2012 at 10:13 pm -      #14

    He took a lascannon to the head.

  15. Murder November 21, 2012 at 10:20 pm -      #15

    Spartans have no superhuman healing abilities. If you put a. .22 to there head and fired they would die. This guy has redundant organs and hyper repair systems. He can tank a shit ton of small arms and even some heavy. However, MC has his armor and in his armor with his speed he may be able to deliver enough damage to beat him. This match is like putting ironman against punisher.

  16. Praetor Prefect (With Cad Bane's Hat) November 21, 2012 at 11:01 pm -      #16

    What’s your source Murder?

  17. Murder November 21, 2012 at 11:16 pm -      #17

    motherfucking real world experience you noobtard! Get out of my happy place!

  18. Praetor Prefect (With Cad Bane's Hat) November 21, 2012 at 11:21 pm -      #18

    I invade everyone’s happy place, Murder

  19. Murder November 21, 2012 at 11:25 pm -      #19

    the power of christ compels you!

  20. Praetor Prefect (With Cad Bane's Hat) November 21, 2012 at 11:30 pm -      #20

    Pfft. Next.

  21. Murder November 21, 2012 at 11:39 pm -      #21

    starcraft is gay and only appeals to slow minded players that dont have the apm for halo wars.

  22. Praetor Prefect (With Cad Bane's Hat) November 21, 2012 at 11:44 pm -      #22

    Halo wars sucked donkey testicles and could never live up to the legacy of the series.

  23. Amm0vamp1r3 November 21, 2012 at 11:44 pm -      #23

    So MC takes this because has his armor.

  24. Praetor Prefect (With Cad Bane's Hat) November 21, 2012 at 11:49 pm -      #24

    @Ammo
    Thank you for bringing it back to topic. Yes, yes he does.

  25. Amm0vamp1r3 November 21, 2012 at 11:52 pm -      #25

    Is it too much of a stomp or Should we ask admin to showcase it?

  26. Praetor Prefect (With Cad Bane's Hat) November 21, 2012 at 11:53 pm -      #26

    I s

  27. Praetor Prefect (With Cad Bane's Hat) November 21, 2012 at 11:54 pm -      #27

    Really

  28. Praetor Prefect (With Cad Bane's Hat) November 21, 2012 at 11:55 pm -      #28

    F*ck my stupid phone. Yes, we should wait for another movie or something for more feats. Then get it showcased

  29. SgCombine November 21, 2012 at 11:57 pm -      #29

    @Amm0
    “Spartans can die from a single bullet but thats a sniper”
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    Master Chief’s shields have tanked things like 50mm auto cannon rounds. I’m sure the sniper thing is also just game mechanics.

  30. the_man_with The_Answers November 22, 2012 at 1:23 pm -      #30

    “Master Chief’s shields have tanked things like 50mm auto cannon rounds. I’m sure the sniper thing is also just game mechanics”
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    Bare minimum, excluding game mechanics, for Mark V is somewhere around 500kJ. Mark VI is double that. 1MJ could soak up around 30 sniper rifle rounds.
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    “This guy has redundant organs and hyper repair systems. He can tank a shit ton of small arms and even some heavy.”
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    Sources? Does he have a redundant brain? A redundant spinal cord? A redundant neck? Because those are the things Chief is going to squish, snap, and break.
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    ” motherfucking real world experience you noobtard!”
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    Leave.
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    You can’t have “motherfucking real world experience” with a fictional alien species. See the URL? What about the name of the site? See that word FACT there? You should probably try getting some, instead of running around making baseless claims and wanking to the Engineer.

  31. Murder November 22, 2012 at 4:21 pm -      #31

    How about you get off johns dick, fagbot? Spartans are nowhere near as powerful as you halobots like to think! first off, you’re throwing aroung kj as if that has anything to do with how halo shields work which they dont! His shields have shown to be a nice buffer for short term effects and nothing more. Whats his face was taken out by a single plasma shot. Second, spartans are not godly, they are not astartes or even captain america levels. without the armor a spartan is in the high hundred lbs strength club. with his armor he’s maybe in the half ton range. What you see in the game is nothing but entertainment unless you also believe that a soldier has the same abilities like they do in CODMW3. Spartans suck steve roger’s dick and gobble engineer balls.

  32. LUCIDSCIENCE November 22, 2012 at 5:10 pm -      #32

    It seems that everyone here has forgotten that the engineers themselves have suits. No idea what feats the suits possess, but I think armor is an obvious given.

    (And seeing as how it was never specified that the engineer was out of his suit, I think it’s fair to give it to him.)

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    As far as strength goes, the engineer at the end of Prometheus ripped off David’s head after lifting him into the air (not straining at all as he did it). David is a synthetic; in the Alien universe, synthetics are portrayed to be smarter, stronger, and more physically capable in general than humans. I assume they’re bulkier, but not sure about that.

    He then put up a valiant fight against the proto-facehugger. That thing would have engulfed Shaw in a second; if he had weaponry, I’d say he might’ve been able to get away.

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    Master Chief’s biggest plus so far (seeing as he doesn’t have weaponry this time around) seems to be that he is super-human, with super-human strength and speed.

    The engineers are top-tier humans who have spent who knows how long perfecting genetic engineering; their “perfect” physical appearance suggests their own genetics have been greatly enhanced.

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    So far we basically have two suited super-humans playing fisticuffs. More feats are needed from the engineer’s side, otherwise we’re basically debating who’d win in a wrestling match.

    BUT.

    A faction battle would be interesting. A small number of Engineer ships arrive at a planet (or other Halo-esque place) populated by an equal (or otherwise appropriate) number of UNSC troops / weaponry / whatever, as well as Master Chief.

    The Engineers have black goo capsules as well as standard xenomorph eggs. Because we haven’t seen the Engineers in true action, their main form of attack would be to bombard the planet with their bioweaponry and sit back as the xeno infestation takes hold.

    The UNSC force would have to take out the ships / deal with the xenos to win. Maybe someone else can think of a scenario with more equal ground for each faction to stand on, as right now a simple solution would be to “blast ships out of orbit,” and that’s not a very fun debate. :P

  33. the_man_with The_Answers November 22, 2012 at 5:27 pm -      #33

    “Spartans are nowhere near as powerful as you halobots like to think! ”
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    Considering I’ve been on this site….how long now, 5 or six years, and argued AGAINST Chief several times, your insult doesn’t carry much weight. “Halobot” would also not be the correct term to describe me. I think I’ve actually become a respected Halo supporter on this site.
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    “first off, you’re throwing aroung kj as if that has anything to do with how halo shields work which they dont! His shields have shown to be a nice buffer for short term effects and nothing more.”
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    Do you even know what kJ are? Kilojoules. Energy. Do you know what those “short term effects” are emparting on the shields? Energy. His shields and armor have saved him, and other SPARTANs, from high-altitude and even orbital drops. With the weight of a SPARTAN-II in armor and the velocity they are moving, that is in the low-megajoules of energy.
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    “Whats his face was taken out by a single plasma shot.”
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    Uhhh, when? Last time I checked, Chief never died from a plasma round to the face.
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    “Second, spartans are not godly, they are not astartes or even captain america levels. ”
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    I never said they were? Stop strawmanning and putting words in my mouth. Second, SPARTANs, in armor at least, are actually at, and beyond Captain America in many fields.
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    “without the armor a spartan is in the high hundred lbs strength club.”
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    At age 14, without having adjusted to their new augmentations, SPARTANs were lifting 3x their weight. That is roughly 1,000 pounds. During their combat training, they were ripping apart Titanium with their bare hands. John even kicked an exoskeleton bulkier than MJOLNIR, 8 meters away. We’re looking at a kick that just sent 600kg+ flying 8 meters away.
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    “with his armor he’s maybe in the half ton range.”
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    With his armor on, he can casually lift 500kg+ with one hand. He can flip 3 ton vehicles without any mention of strain.
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    “What you see in the game is nothing but entertainment unless you also believe that a soldier has the same abilities like they do in CODMW3. ”
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    Unlike COD, Halo doesn’t try to replicate the modern world. They are a fictional universe that can, frankly, do whatever the fuck they want. Chief, throughout all of the Halo books starring him, is vastly super human. Unless you have proof that he is an unaugmented, non-power armor wearing, regular old marine? I would love to see that.
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    And, excuse me, where exactly is your evidence for the Engineer that I asked for?
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    Also, for lols:
    How about you get off the engineers dick, fagbot? The engineer is nowhere near as powerful as you prometheousbots like to think! first off, you’re throwing aroung baseless claims as if they have anything to do with how powerful the engineer is! His movie has shown him to be sorta tough and nothing more. Whats his face was taken out by a single punch from Chief. Second, Engineers are not godly, they are not astartes or even captain america levels. The engineer is in the high hundred lbs strength club. He’s maybe in the half ton range. What you see in the movie is nothing but entertainment unless you also believe that a soldier has the same abilities like they do in CODMW3. The engineer can suck steve roger’s dick and gobble Chief’s balls.
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    See how annoying, immature, and completely baseless argeuments are?

  34. Praetor Prefect (With Cad Bane's Hat) November 22, 2012 at 5:34 pm -      #34

    This match is getting tedious. Really it is. Thank you tmwta for providing a sane argument. I though Murder was citing “Aliens: Destroying Angels” which wouldn’t apply anyway as the engineers in that comic were the old “Space Jockeys” that are no longer canon. It came out in 1999

  35. Murder November 22, 2012 at 5:57 pm -      #35

    The first halo book talks about how the spartans first engaged the covenant and a spartan died from one single shot to the ribs. They never ripped titanium apart with their bare hands. chief kicked that exosuit off a ledge and fell the distance. He cannot flip tanks thats a game mechanic unless sinhgri and odst can flip tanks too and if you’re going off the game then iguess chief’s max speed is 3mph down hill. shields have no way to divert kinetic force away from anything so helping survive a fall is a game mechanic.

  36. Murder November 22, 2012 at 6:00 pm -      #36

    The amount of kj would only effect the time shields could stay up not what force they can repel. Spartans 3x the weight of a 14 year old boy is anywhere near 1000lbs! A 14 year old probably ways what, 80lbs? woopty do, bassile.

  37. Murder November 22, 2012 at 6:22 pm -      #37

    I just wasted time reading the actual halo wiki and yes, Spartan 2s suck steve roger’s balls. They can lift 3x their weight which is ONLY double the strength of an average human. their average max speed is about 32mph. The mjolnir armor shit only doubles their natural abilities so John is in the 1200-1400lbs club in armor. Basicaly Captain America would snap John’s neck like a twig and and an engineer would be able to beat john in wrestling but do to his speed and armor the engineer loses to a boxing match. So now everyone can wipe john off their chin.

  38. the_man_with The_Answers November 22, 2012 at 7:06 pm -      #38

    “The first halo book talks about how the spartans first engaged the covenant and a spartan died from one single shot to the ribs.”
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    Using shield-less armor, and the SPARTAN (Sam) actually shrugged off the hit. The only reason he ended up dying was because it breached the suit a little, and he had to stay behind as a bomb went off (He couldn’t jump into space when his suit was breached).
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    “They never ripped titanium apart with their bare hands.”-
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    I beg to differ.
    “On top of the bunker, John was a blur of slashing motions. A second guard’s exosuit erupted in a fountain of hydraulic fluid and then collapsed under the armor’s weight. The last guard on the bunker turned to fire at John. Halsey gripped the edge of her chair. “He’s at point blank range! Even stun rounds can kill at that distance!” As the guard’s gun fired, John sidestepped. The stun rounds slashed through the air, a clean miss. John grabbed the weapon’s armature—twisted—and with a screech of stressed metal, wrenched it free of the exoskeleton.”
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    John slashes with his hands, cutting up the hydraulic systems of the suit (Many of which would be coated in metal). Then, he rips the 30mm armature right out of its titanium holding. With his bare hand. That sound a lot like “ripping titanium apart with his hands.” maybe not like paper, but the man has some serious grip strength.
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    “chief kicked that exosuit off a ledge and fell the distance”
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    Where did it imply that?
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    “John landed, braced, and kicked one guard. The man landed in a heap . . . eight meters away.”
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    Nowhere does it say that the guard fell off of anything.
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    “He cannot flip tanks thats a game mechanic unless sinhgri and odst can flip tanks”
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    I never said he could. What he CAN do is flip a 3 ton warthog.
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    “if you’re going off the game then iguess chief’s max speed is 3mph down hill.”
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    I’m not using game mechanics……..
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    “shields have no way to divert kinetic force away from anything so helping survive a fall is a game mechanic”
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    Do you even know how physics works? When you fall to the ground, your kinetic energy gets dispersed. If kinetic energy was not stopped by his suit, things would simply pass through him without slowing down. Putting up my hand to block a punch disperses kinetic energy and force. Shields that are active constantly, and have incredibly low amounts of friction tend to be great at dispersing energy.
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    “The amount of kj would only effect the time shields could stay up not what force they can repel.”
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    I think you are confusing energy and power.
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    “Spartans 3x the weight of a 14 year old boy is anywhere near 1000lbs! A 14 year old probably ways what, 80lbs? woopty do, bassile.”
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    First of all, regular 14 year olds weigh roughly 150lbs. Ones that are in extrordinary physical shape would weigh more. Combine that with the following quote:
    “they will only get quicker as they adjust to the ‘alterations’ we’ve made to their bodies. They can lift three times their body weight—which, I might add, is almost double the norm due to their increased muscle density.”
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    Lower limit:
    150lbs*2*3=900lbs
    Mid
    175lbs*2*3=1,050lbs
    Higher end
    200lbs*2*3=1,200lbs
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    SPARTANs, at age 14, are described as looking like 18 year old Olympic Athletes, so these weights are pretty valid.
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    Though compliments to you Murder. I’m pleased to see that you have dropped the excessive use of profanity, are showing a little respect, and forming coherent arguements.

  39. the_man_with The_Answers November 22, 2012 at 7:10 pm -      #39

    “I just wasted time reading the actual halo wiki ”
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    And that would be your problem. The Halo wiki is notorious for being inaccurate, especially for calculations. I could provide a quote this instant of Chief flipping a 3 ton vehicle, and another of him running faster than 32mph up a hill for 500 meters, or another where Chief explicitly runs at 20m/s (45mph).

  40. TheSorrow November 22, 2012 at 7:31 pm -      #40

    This is what happens when wannabe Halo critics come around. They look like idiots trying to debunk things no one ever said.

  41. Murder November 22, 2012 at 7:38 pm -      #41

    it says on the wiki that some spartan ran 62mph but tore his achyles tendon so they can push themselves but there bodies cant hang with the suit. ripping an exo arm off, which joints are always a weak point due to the need to be flexible, and tearing through titanium are two different things. 150lbs for a 14 year old is a fat kid. Im 160 at 5″9 and i could stand to lose a few pounds.

  42. Murder November 22, 2012 at 7:40 pm -      #42

    Spartans struggle in strength with sanghri or however you spell it.

  43. Praetor Prefect (With Cad Bane's Hat) November 22, 2012 at 7:40 pm -      #43

    @TMWTA
    Thanks for providing the quotes. I was arguing for MC, but I don’t own those books.

  44. the_man_with The_Answers November 22, 2012 at 7:40 pm -      #44

    “This is what happens when wannabe Halo critics come around. They look like idiots trying to debunk things no one ever said.”
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    Not to mention well established numbers that have been tried and tested for years. I’d give him some slack though. Being new, and apparently having a hate boner for Halo, he doesn’t really know better.

  45. TheSorrow November 22, 2012 at 7:43 pm -      #45

    Being new, and apparently having a hate boner for Halo, he doesn’t really know better.
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    He isn’t new, he is a well-established troll who rarely thinks beyond what he says.

  46. the_man_with The_Answers November 22, 2012 at 7:50 pm -      #46

    “150lbs for a 14 year old is a fat kid.”
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    Muscle is more dense than fat. In high school, I would remember when the BMI rating would come in from the nurse’s office. Working with only height an weight, I was at like 92, 93 being morbidly obese. I was regarded as one of the skinnier kids in my class, and was also a cross-country runner who frequently ran in the 17s. Needless to say, muscle increases your weight far more than fat does.
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    SPARTANs, resembling 18 year old peak athletes at that age, would easily weigh 150lbs.
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    “joints are always a weak point due to the need to be flexible, ”
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    It wasn’t a joint. It was where the 30mm gun was attached. There shouldn’t be any joints there.
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    “Spartans struggle in strength with sanghri or however you spell it.”
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    You can just refer to them as Elites. That’s what I do anyways.
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    Regardless, Elites are massively strong themselves. Ever play Halo:Reach? Elites effortlessly pick up SPARTANs in MJOLNIR with one hand. That isaround 500kg with one hand, with little effort.
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    “Thanks for providing the quotes. I was arguing for MC, but I don’t own those books.”
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    I don’t even have TFoR on hand (I lost it somehow). I use a quote thread on the topia that I started up. Chuck was kind enough to post a huge amount of quotes from that book, though, so that’s what I use when TFoR is brought up or needed.

  47. the_man_with The_Answers November 22, 2012 at 7:52 pm -      #47

    “He isn’t new, he is a well-established troll who rarely thinks beyond what he says.”
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    How long has he been around? I don’t generally keep track of trolls until I face them directly. Then I remember them.

  48. Praetor Prefect (With Cad Bane's Hat) November 22, 2012 at 7:54 pm -      #48

    Yeah, he’s been around for a good while.

  49. TheSorrow November 22, 2012 at 7:54 pm -      #49

    How long has he been around? I don’t generally keep track of trolls until I face them directly. Then I remember them.
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    He was the one who suggested the English Bulldog vs Death Star, if that gives you something to reference from. So he has been here since at least February.

  50. Murder November 22, 2012 at 7:59 pm -      #50

    I’ve been a veteran halo fan since it was a blip on my rts radar in 2000. I’m just not a fool at thinking chief is freaking goku. The guys that argue for him remind me of the days when fanboys argued Gordon Freeman was on par with Dr doom. Just because you love his cock doesnt mean he loves you back.

  51. TheSorrow November 22, 2012 at 8:04 pm -      #51

    I’ve been a veteran halo fan since it was a blip on my rts radar in 2000. I’m just not a fool at thinking chief is freaking goku.
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    Oh so you’re just a dumbass who thinks he knows more about Halo than most people. It’s pretty clear you don’t.

  52. Murder November 22, 2012 at 8:15 pm -      #52

    It’s clear you’re a solid snake fag. One of the gayest games on the gayest consoles since sega cd. Your opinion matters as much as a sequel to metalgear tactics.

  53. TheSorrow November 22, 2012 at 8:17 pm -      #53

    Like I said, pitiful troll.

  54. the_man_with The_Answers November 22, 2012 at 8:17 pm -      #54

    “I’ve been a veteran halo fan since it was a blip on my rts radar in 2000. I’m just not a fool at thinking chief is freaking goku.”
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    Ummm, lifting 3 tons, running at 45mph+, having shields in the very low single-digit megajoules, and having a single-digit millisecond reaction time is nowhere near Goku. Quite honestly, SPARTANs (in armor) are like slight enhancements on the “Captain America” design, and made more applicable in the grand scheme of war.
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  55. ka-tet19 November 22, 2012 at 8:21 pm -      #55

    “It’s clear you’re a solid snake fag. One of the gayest games on the gayest consoles since sega cd. Your opinion matters as much as a sequel to metalgear tactics.”
    metal gear solids the shit and solid snake is a boss.

  56. the_man_with The_Answers November 22, 2012 at 8:21 pm -      #56

    “Your opinion matters as much as a sequel to metalgear tactics”
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    I respect Sorrow’s opinion far more than yours. He’s a respected member that’s been around for years. One of the original Pilers (From the days of the Trimunative and earlier) if I don’t believe. I would show some respect for the people that have been on the site for multiple times longer than you have.

  57. Murder November 22, 2012 at 8:22 pm -      #57

    not an enhancement to captain america, a downgrade. Cap lives in a universe where Chief would be a shield footsoldier aka a redshirt.

  58. Praetor Prefect (With Cad Bane's Hat) November 22, 2012 at 8:23 pm -      #58

    Ah, so you’re Brandon Danger eh Murder? I was wondering about the engineer trolling going on. He’s nowhere near space marine levels. Nowhere near.

  59. SgCombine November 22, 2012 at 8:24 pm -      #59

    @tmwta
    Don’t bother with him, he’s beyond reasoning with.

  60. TheSorrow November 22, 2012 at 8:24 pm -      #60

    Thanks Answers, silly Murder flailing about. You will go nowhere with that attitude.

  61. TheSorrow November 22, 2012 at 8:27 pm -      #61

    Cap lives in a universe where Chief would be a shield footsoldier aka a redshirt.
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    Its ironic because without plot shielding, that’s what Captain America is.

  62. the_man_with The_Answers November 22, 2012 at 8:31 pm -      #62

    “not an enhancement to captain america, a downgrade. Cap lives in a universe where Chief would be a shield footsoldier aka a redshirt.”
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    That doesn’t change his fairly well defined statistics. It just shows how he can leverage them and/or how much plot comes into play. On the tactical side of things, Capt. can only be in one place at a time. The SPARTAN-IIs could potentially be in 30 or so places at once. The SPARTAN-IIIs could potentially be in hundreds of places. Depending on how big the S-IV program is, they could be in thousands, if not millions of places at once.

  63. ka-tet19 November 22, 2012 at 8:33 pm -      #63

    they have spartan4′s now? for fucks……… cant we ever just have odst’s?

  64. SgCombine November 22, 2012 at 8:36 pm -      #64

    @ka-tet19
    A large number of the Spartan 4′s were former ODST/Army. Think of it as an upgrade to their standard armor.

  65. TheSorrow November 22, 2012 at 8:36 pm -      #65

    Nope, genetically enhanced super soldiers have proven their effectiveness. Manufacturing new generations is the most logical thing to do.

  66. ka-tet19 November 22, 2012 at 8:45 pm -      #66

    as an odst fan i feel like my favorite type of character is pretty much completely outdated lol oh well. its like having a human favorite character in dbz

  67. the_man_with The_Answers November 22, 2012 at 8:45 pm -      #67

    “Nope, genetically enhanced super soldiers have proven their effectiveness. Manufacturing new generations is the most logical thing to do.”
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    Exactly. Dr. Halsey, and even the elusive Assembly, believe SPARTANs are humanities’ next step.
    ONI just likes them for WAAAAAAARRRR!!!1!!1!!! though.

  68. ReDruM November 22, 2012 at 10:25 pm -      #68

    “As far as strength goes, the engineer at the end of Prometheus ripped off David’s head after lifting him into the air (not straining at all as he did it). David is a synthetic; in the Alien universe, synthetics are portrayed to be smarter, stronger, and more physically capable in general than humans. I assume they’re bulkier, but not sure about that.
    He then put up a valiant fight against the proto-facehugger. That thing would have engulfed Shaw in a second; if he had weaponry, I’d say he might’ve been able to get away.”
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    Problem is Synthetics in the Alien’s verse, unless they are combat androids which he was not, are inferior when it comes to actual physical durability. As in they cannot take the same type of damage we can. This is seen when in Alien 1 the black guy who name escapes me took the support androids head off with a few swings of a fire extinguisher. Not to mention this would be an even older model since Ripley wouldn’t have reached LV-426 for the first time for another 33 years since Prometheus took place before she was even born.
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    “Ummm, lifting 3 tons, running at 45mph+, having shields in the very low single-digit megajoules, and having a single-digit millisecond reaction time is nowhere near Goku. Quite honestly, SPARTANs (in armor) are like slight enhancements on the “Captain America” design, and made more applicable in the grand scheme of war.”
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    Technically its the other way around. The SSS can be used on any one person and is but an injection. The Spartan 2 process was more tedious and had a high failure rate and the Spartan 3s aren’t on Captain America’s level nor the S2s. And an added benefit of the SSS is that its effects are passed on to the subjects children who have double the parents abilities as seen in Roger’s son who can outrun motorcycles. If only it can be replicated.
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    “Its ironic because without plot shielding, that’s what Captain America is.”
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    Debatable. Like Mata said before in another thread its Roger’s skill and brains combined with his abilities that make him so dangerous. And the shield that renders most Bricks impotent since they can’t get through it. But compared to Omega Level mutants of course.
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    But Chief has this. Outside the movie there are no real feats for the Space Jockies and I can’t say they are as strong as Xenos which could have pushed the match in its favor since the only time they met in combat in the EU to my knowledge he used a gun on them. So Chief for the win.

  69. TheSorrow November 22, 2012 at 10:32 pm -      #69

    Debatable. Like Mata said before in another thread its Roger’s skill and brains combined with his abilities that make him so dangerous. And the shield that renders most Bricks impotent since they can’t get through it.
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    Basically my point is that Murder’s observation about Master Chief could easily be reversed when you compare Captain America to the rest of the Marvel Universe. Both of them are similar in multiple ways.

  70. the_man_with The_Answers November 23, 2012 at 11:05 am -      #70

    “If only it can be replicated.”
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    And that would be why. SPARTAN augmentations and armor can be replicated, and quite easily at that. Until the SSS can get replicated easily and be applied to thousands of soldiers, it will be nowhere near as effective.
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  71. ReDruM November 23, 2012 at 11:19 am -      #71

    “And that would be why. SPARTAN augmentations and armor can be replicated, and quite easily at that. Until the SSS can get replicated easily and be applied to thousands of soldiers, it will be nowhere near as effective”
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    It COULD be replicated but the guy that made it kind of died before he could tell everyone his discoveries. There have been attempts to replicate it by SHIELD and bad guys with varying results. Most of the time the soldier came out better then Captain America if a bit psychotic. They usually become villains then. And then before they can give it to others here comes Rogers to gum up the works. Really the only reason why there aren’t an army of super soldiers is because the plan always gets destroyed before fruition by various heroes.
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    “Basically my point is that Murder’s observation about Master Chief could easily be reversed when you compare Captain America to the rest of the Marvel Universe. Both of them are similar in multiple ways.”
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    This is true. They are very similar minus the suit and will follow orders without question thing.
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    But yeah MC beats the engineer here readily until we actually get more feats of ability from the race.

  72. ReDruM November 23, 2012 at 11:21 am -      #72

    Also did I mention that a variation of the SSS created The Sentry? You just can’t get this shit with S2/3 program. Imagine if the UNSC had all the variations of the SSS? They wouldn’t lose.

  73. ReDruM November 23, 2012 at 11:24 am -      #73

    Oh and Luke Cage as well and The Destroyer as well.

  74. TheSorrow November 23, 2012 at 11:49 am -      #74

    That’s Marvel for you, they take the expression “What doesn’t kill you, only makes you stronger.” to the extreme. Of course there is the Void that came out of it too… worst side effect ever.

  75. Lowk Classic November 23, 2012 at 12:28 pm -      #75

    Marvel has extremis now. Think Cap A’s SSS except stronger, faster, and with superpowers.

  76. Nomad November 25, 2012 at 7:39 pm -      #76

    So MC for the win?

  77. GuardianAngel1911 with Mjolnir and the Odinsword November 25, 2012 at 8:07 pm -      #77

    @Nomad
    yes.
    @Lowk
    yeah and Extremis is back with a vengeance in Ironmans Marvel Now story, as of issue 2 there’s a team of armored Arthurian themed nuts each with a name of a knight of the round table, or Merlin who’s a tech wiz Stark outshined one time by thinking out of the box on a challange. Tony uses just the liquid metal armor and his mobile armory making minor changes for each opponent holding his own and then just destroying their Extremis kit which was his plan all along.
    Of course he had trouble with them since they were all expert armor pilots for their degree of junk armor by that point (junk compared to Ironman armor)

  78. Cautiosly Pessimistic November 26, 2012 at 5:08 pm -      #78

    The Master Chief is nice and all but the Engineer has this. The Engineers are masters of bio-engineering what we see in the abilities of the aliens from the alien franchise we can expect in the engineers but even stronger. Without his weapons the master chief will have to go hand to hand with the engineer who in addition to having acid that can burn through multiple decks of a starship is probably far stronger and faster than the fighting engineer we see in prometheus who was in a coma for for a few centuries (muscle atrophy, reduced bone density etc)
    Questions, is the engineer wearing armor? if so the master chief would have trouble hurting the Engineer who has a bio-engineered suit of armor that most likely has the same feats of engineering the Aliens do.

  79. TheSorrow November 26, 2012 at 5:18 pm -      #79

    The Engineers are masters of bio-engineering
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    Bio-engineering does not equate to combat abilities. In fact, all but one of them survived after an outbreak.
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    what we see in the abilities of the aliens from the alien franchise we can expect in the engineers but even stronger.
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    See above.
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    having acid that can burn through multiple decks of a starship
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    Since when did Engineers have acid blood? Just because they inevitably created the Aliens does not mean they have the same abilities.
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    Your entire post is one big association fallacy.

  80. Nomad November 26, 2012 at 5:25 pm -      #80

    It also doesn’t hurt that Master Chief is pretty well trained in hand-to-hand combat.

  81. Praetor Prefect (I Wear a Fez Now. Fezzes are Cool) November 26, 2012 at 5:30 pm -      #81

    @TheSorrow
    Thank you for pointing this out. It seems to be the engineer side’s only style of argument.

  82. Nomad November 26, 2012 at 5:35 pm -      #82

    Well the Engineer does have the upper hand in engineering. ;)

  83. TheSorrow November 26, 2012 at 5:37 pm -      #83

    I meant to say, *all but one of them die*.

  84. Commander Cross November 26, 2012 at 5:38 pm -      #84

    @Nomad

    I see what you did there. :lol:
    Since the Engineer doesn’t seem to have enough time to do any, well y’know, Engineering…moot point is as moot as a beyotch, anyone?

  85. Praetor Prefect (I Wear a Fez Now. Fezzes are Cool) November 26, 2012 at 5:45 pm -      #85

    I love it how the conclusion: “the engineers created the aliens and the humans, so they are much better than Spartans” is contradicted by “the movie engineer wasn’t at full strength because of hibernation”. If your basing your argument solely on supposed advanced tech that we’ve never seen, Then why are you relying on the assumption that the movie engineer was weak because of hibernation? By your logic, the Engineer’s cryo chamber should preserve him perfectly, making the Engie in the movie a healthy one.

  86. Cautiosly Pessimistic November 27, 2012 at 1:31 pm -      #86

    I dunno there isn’t really any info on the engineers at all, but based on how similar the exo suits and architecture look to the aliens I’m just guessing that there’s alot of common traits between them.

    I’m assumed that the engineer was atrophied from hibernation because when muscles remain inactive they weaken.

    We dont know much about the engineers period so all we can do is speculate, where as we know that the master chief is just a shade less powerful than a space marine.

    Feats of strength for the engineer:
    1) rips the head off an android which we dont know how difficult it is to do.
    2) tosses some humans around
    3) survives a crash landing in a ship we know nothing about.
    4) struggles with a very large tentacle monster which we dont know the strength of
    5) has armor that can deflect bullets from guns that we dont know the power of.
    6) cant survive a very very heavy blast door landing on it’s neck.

    see the problem?

  87. Praetor Prefect (I Wear a Fez Now. Fezzes are Cool) November 27, 2012 at 1:38 pm -      #87

    @CP
    1)In the first Alien, a man hits a replicant in the head with a fire extinguisher. It rips his head off.
    2 3 and 4 are ok
    5) when did the Engie get shot at?

  88. TheSorrow November 27, 2012 at 1:39 pm -      #88

    I dunno there isn’t really any info on the engineers at all, but based on how similar the exo suits and architecture look to the aliens I’m just guessing that there’s alot of common traits between them.
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    That’s a problem. If you do not know for the fact that Engineers share the same biology as Xenos (and from a mere glance we can easily say they do not), you can’t assume they can use the same feats.

    1) rips the head off an android which we dont know how difficult it is to do.
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    We do actually as RedRum has pointed out before.

  89. The One Above All November 29, 2012 at 2:48 pm -      #89

    We should do Engineer Vs Predator no weapons.

  90. ReDruM November 29, 2012 at 2:55 pm -      #90

    “We should do Engineer Vs Predator no weapons.”
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    The Engineer would get spanked. Comic books aside in AvP a Predator literally punched through the street from the sewer. Couple that with 100s of years of training before being allowed to hunt and the Engineer stands no chances. At all. Not until we get more feats from them which for right now is almost purely technological.

  91. Amm0vamp1r3 December 1, 2012 at 8:11 pm -      #91

    I just watched prometheus today,and i can say that chief takes it,Engineer doesnt have enough feats to give him a win
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    He fought off a big ass face sucking thing,for a couple seconds. Survived a ship crash,through a couple humans around and ripped a robots head off.

  92. Virgil January 7, 2013 at 2:29 pm -      #92

    From what I have seen here do we say that MC takes it? Has the award been given yet? Its not on the main pictures…

  93. Richard Rider, is a Skrull January 7, 2013 at 2:36 pm -      #93

    More feats for the Engineer would be nice Prometheus didn’t show alot of what it can do.

  94. the_man_with The_Answers January 7, 2013 at 3:00 pm -      #94

    “From what I have seen here do we say that MC takes it? Has the award been given yet? Its not on the main pictures…”
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    Awards aren’t given to matches like these nowadays. There was just no contest, and a reward in this match for this match it more than it deserves. Awards aren’t generally given unless there are a few pages worth of decent discussion and debating.

  95. Virgil January 8, 2013 at 11:49 pm -      #95

    @TMWTA
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    Got it.

  96. sisc01 April 13, 2013 at 4:28 am -      #96

    What if mc rammed into him

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