Published on October 22, 2012, by Hitman H94 - Posted in Duels 130
Suggested By Guardianangel1911
Another Marvel Vs DC fight, with Green Arrow from DC and Hawkeye from Marvel.
The two archers go head to head with the city of Las Vegas as their battleground.
Which archer is gonna get a bullseye?
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Methinks this comes downs to who spots the other first.
Huh…. As old as this site is and this was never done? For shame factpile. For shame.
That’s what I said, we have Batman vs Captain America but no Hawkeye vs Green Arrow? These two are well matched and can match eachother shot for shot. It comes down to who is the most skilled, has the best aim, and has the best reflexes.
I should also note this is Las Vegas on a busy night, so large crowds to deal with. This will require stealth as much as archer firepower.
Agh, I really like both characters. It’s gonna take some time for me to decide who to debate for. (Probably just whoever has less support.)
if the debate heats up both sides should have plenty of support.
Personally I also like both, but I think Hawkeye has a slight edge since he has an arrow or two with anti adamantium Voltron tips that pump out enough electricity to KO Abomination. Looking for the scans right now.
N52 Green Arrow?
oh, dammit I forgot about N52 again. No this is pre flashpoint Green Arrow. And both have access to their full arsenal aside from their nuclear arrows (I read somewhere that Hawkeye had one too but not sure.)
and going to get some feats posted now.
Hawkeye fighting multiple foes. all three highly trained mercenaries.
Hawkeye shows he’s not only a skilled archer but a skilled close quarters combatant as well.
Lol @nuke arrows. How would you get away safely? Our ate they like miniaturized baby nukes?
An arrow ko’d Abomination? damn. This proves I’ve been away from comics WAAAAY too long
Hawkeye vs the Thunderbolts.
shows he’s a quick thinker and strategist while also showing great endurance to dodge and take down each member without getting winded.
Green Arrow doesn’t recognize walls damnit!
Green Arrow kickin Deathstroke’s ass, a good example of his ability to set traps when he knows someone is coming for him. Also, one on one combat with Deathstroke is quite a feat.
Green’s I don’t know but Hawkeye it was Ultimate I was thinking of that had the nuke arrow not 616, but it’s concentrated to a 15 foot area I think it said.
Still Green has one so no nuke arrow.
and yeah, an arrow made to pierce adamantium ultron and deliver a massive electro shock. And this was actuall an older comic.
target practice that shows that if he wanted he could kill Ironman with a shot to the eye
pym particle arrow to shrink people.
Hawkeye could make Green Arrow feel inadequite and undersized next to him lol.
took down Vision
had an arrow just for moonstone
he’s also good at throwing stuff, almost Bullseye good if not that good.
as Ronin punking Venom Bullseye and Daken by himself.
Heres the feat I’ve been looking for. Green Arrow owns Red Hood. Admittedly, Red Hood does get away due to his bomb sword.
Green Arrow was taught by the same guy as Deathstroke.
Some of GA’s arrows
Acetylene, Smoke, and Net arrows
Is this Bullseye as Hawkeye or Clint Barton? If its Bullseye then it would be a repeat of the Bullseye vs Green Arrow thread.
Clint Barton. The real Hawkeye
I’m going with green arrow on the fact that his dc (fanboy)
And he’s basically like Bruce Wayne , money and lot of tech
Hawkeye has gear thats as impressive if not moreso and isn’t a billionaire. So that says something.
Clint Barton as Captain America:
Ronin vs Captain America
Oh yeah, I remember the Captain America thing, Clint was the first guy that they went too to take Steve’s place. That says something for Hawkeye’s overall skills that he was number one on the list of people to wear the Captain America suit.
also those last two are thumbnails not the full image.
I’m going to pull for Clint. One of my favorite Marvel characters.
the battle with Abomination including the Adamantium arrow I mentioned with the electro shock. Also shows off explosive, sonic, flash, knockout gas and putty arrows.
Download links, not cool.
my bad didn’t know they were download links
These should work better.
Hawkeye also has a grappling arrow
so yeah trick wise they are dead even it’s starting to look.
Does Hawkeye have any arrows like this?
These could make any cover Hawkeye finds himself using useless. Also, as far as I know they are the likes of which he has never encountered before, so he would not be prepared for it either.
I know GA has a phantom zone arrow, though I don’t know if it needs to hit or just go off near the target. Seems close in both archery and H2H I think it’ll depend on their tricks.
If Ollie could find a sword in a museum somewhere (I know nothing of las vegas) he could get a major edge, he can block arrows with it, and has beaten Jason Todd before (Todd being near-batman level)
They can’t just go off shooting each other immediately though. Being in Las Vegas means people, and both of them DO NOT want innocents to get hurt.
I think both of them would look for a more isolated place to fight. Most likely they won’t attack the other instantly, but rather they’ll first discuss where in Las Vegas they would battle.
Now my question is, who among them is more manipulative, that he can convince the other to fight in a place where he would have the advantage?
“who among them is more manipulative”
That is a pretty good question.
More manipulative idk i want to say hawkeye he is a spy isnt he?
I would guess Hawkeye is, but I don’t know as much about him as arrow, arrow just never seemed to have that as his strong point.
Neither of them are talkers. Neither have they shown any qualms with fighting in populated cities before. Not to mention this is a debate about a vs, not a vs about a debate.
Here’s a list of Ollie’s arrows.
Colored Disc Arrows
Electric Eel Arrow
Neon Light Arrow
Parachute Arrow / Arrow-Chute / Para-Arrow
Phantom Zone Arrow
Stun / Stun Grenade
Falcon Arrow (as Robin Hood, having gone back in time)
Yoke Arrow (as Robin Hood, having gone back in time)
Jousting Arrow (as Robin Hood, having gone back in time)
Vine Arrow (as Robin Hood, having gone back in time)
Soot Arrow (as Robin Hood, having gone back in time)
I actually seen the boxing glove in the opening sence on justice league lol
“If Ollie could find a sword in a museum somewhere (I know nothing of las vegas) he could get a major edge, he can block arrows with it, and has beaten Jason Todd before (Todd being near-batman level)”
This^^ along with this:
“Oh yeah, I remember the Captain America thing, Clint was the first guy that they went too to take Steve’s place. That says something for Hawkeye’s overall skills that he was number one on the list of people to wear the Captain America suit.”
And finally this:
All of those combined means that, both Green Arrow and Hawkeye are both roughly not quite as good, but very close to, two people whom are pretty much equal to each other. Note that Batman admits that it is conceivable for the Cap’N to beat him; he does not say that the Cap’N would undoubtably win. Batman is just admiting that Cap’N was his equal. And since both archers are roughly just below both of these characters, they should be roughly equal to each other.
Yeah, that’s my only point.
Are we assuming that both combatants have unlimited arrows?
That’s a good question, I wonder how many arrows each can carry? I’ll try to do some research.
Okay really quick before we hit fifty, should this be 616 Hawkeye or Ultimate I want to make sure before we get to far into it.
^ I don’t know much about either, though I’ve heard ultimate is more powerful. I’d assume we’d do the one with the better tricks, as GA has quite a few.
On the quiver size I know at one point GA told canary he could fire 29 arrows per minute, so I’d assume he has at least that many in his quiver. Does hawkeye fight at melee using his bow or his hands?
Hawkeye has fought with his bow before, he uses it in some of the scans I posted. and as Ronin he was shown to be an expert with swords nunchuks bo staff and shurikan. He is also almost as good if not as good as Bullseye at throwing improvised weapons.
also no phantom zone arrow just cause it feels like a cop out weapon to me.
after returning from the grave and having not touched a bow since returning headshots and kills four super Skrulls with all four arrows shot at once.
“Okay really quick before we hit fifty, should this be 616 Hawkeye or Ultimate I want to make sure before we get to far into it.”
I’m guessing you don’t read much Ultimate Hawkeye comics. 616 is definitely more similar to GA, Ultimate uses guns quite often.
Okay guns plus that level of accuracy would be bad for Green Arrow. I just wanted to ask though cause I’ve been reading up and some say Ultimate would be more fair against Green Arrow than 616.
Phantom arrow !!!!!
ello everyone! glad to be back this is why green arrow wins luchins.com/dickery/JLA65atomic_arrow.jpg
post seven, I said no nuke arrows.
Even if he had a nuke arrow could hawkeye just shoot the arrow and set it off before it was fired?
oh dear my eagerness got the better of me and i missed that one. my apologies
But welcome back.
no big deal.
I just want this to come down to skill not a specific deus ex arrow.
if i’m remembering correctly doesn’t hawkeye have a ridiculous temper? i think that gives green arrow a strategic advantage because he wont lose his cool and make a mistake.
also green arrow can shoot 29 arrows a minute dc.wikia.com/wiki/Green_Arrow_(Oliver_Queen) does anyone know how fast hawkeye can shoot arrows?
I can’t find a specific number, but considering they are considered equals in archery I’m betting it’s around the same number.
I agree on no Phantom Zone arrow, it’s overpowered. How is hawkeye on ricochet shots, I didn’t see any in the scans, and I know GA can do that fairly well.
Just for awesomeness, here’s Ollie punching bats, and bats acknowledging the strength of the punch
Here’s him shooting Deadshot’s arrows out of the air
And here’s his hypersonic arrow easily takin ghim down. Can hawkeye resist sonics?
I don’t know if this makes him a bullet timer, but here he is versus a lot of auto weaponry
Finally here’s a long fight with some master assasins, showing the yield of his explosive arrow and his martial artistry.
Also, on an unrelated note, does anyone know how to change your picture? (I heard someone call it a gravatar???)
sadly I can’t find another good Hawkeye respect thread to get scans from..
as for the avatar, you go to Gravatar.com
Hawkeyes Trick Arrows:
Adamantium Arrows (often combined with Electrical arrowhead)
Boomerang Arrowhead (allows an arrow to return to shooter)
Cable Arrow (allowing him to swing through the air)
Boxing Glove Arrow
Blast (Explosive) Arrow
Magnetic Arrowhead (adheres to metal surfaces; can be added to other arrows)
Magnesium Flare Arrow
Putty Arrow (adheres to rough surfaces, and can stop exposed machinery)
Pym Particles Arrow (increases or decreases the size of an object or opponent)
Rocket Arrowhead (boosts range, can be added to other arrows)
Suction Cup Arrowhead (adheres to smooth surfaces; can be added to other arrows)
Tear Gas Arrow
Thermal (Incendiary) Arrow
Vibranium Arrow (must have supplement Magnetic, Putty, or Suction Cup arrowhead to stick to target; deadens kinetic and vibratory energies)
USB Arrow (to remotely shutdown computer systems
Thanks! I’ll try it out.
It seems like most of Hawkeye’s arrows are below GA’s standard, but I found out Hawkeye is a pretty good shot with non-standard weapons, as he throws Cap’s shield like a boomerang without practice, and Iron Man says 77 trained S.H.I.E.L.D agents tried and failed. I know that GA does the batman thing sneak attacking off rooftops, I assume hawkeye wouldn’t. being an avenger and all. Is that correct? I think that would give Ollie the edge in a hunt-kill scenario.
Apparently the Gravatar thing didn’t work, I see it in the top right, but not on the posts.
it changed though
it’s working now.
and Hawkeye has done the stealth thing too, he’s worked as a mercenary, a shield spy/agent, and an assassin, he can pull stealth when he has to.
Well that’s a good thing for hawkeye. If they do what somebody suggested a while ago and take it out of the city, does hawkeye have the accurate range to match GA?
That’s at least a couple football fields, and only a few inches off the bullseye, add in the AOE of an explosive arrow and Ollie can take down Clint at a safe distance.
Shaft enters the fray to slaughter the whole city:
No Murder no he doesn’t.
Now do you have a relevant post or not?
Shaft goes pew pew pew and GL/HE are like Uhhh blah dead.
That relevant enough for you, noob?
no it’s not, now please hang up and try being relevant again later.
What’s the matter Colt? You don’t like variables? Shaft lives in Vegas so of course he’ll jump out for a bow fight- duh!
still loling at the fail that is Youngblood being brought up.
That’s Murder for you, his cup runneth over with fail.
QFT man, QFT. Also who’s Colt, was Topaz called that one point or was he referring to me?
When he fires a graviton sub-nuclear rod through your dome you wont be laughing.
Colt M1911 as if you didn’t know… you think you sneak military references in here without someone noticing?
When he fires a graviton sub-nuclear rod through your dome you wont be laughing.
*Checks watch*……. *Looks around*……. Where is he? Must be worn out after that last wank session you gave him.
no I figured people noticed, I just wasn’t sure if you were referring to me with it or if Topaz used to use Colt as a username or something. I know some people have left with one name and come back with others or have changed theirs. So I wanted to be sure.
Keep wanking for the fail team you carpetbagger. Shaft is the greatest Bowman to ever grace any comic universe. This Argument is over- I just put in my seven bucks for a Shaft vs. Green Arrow AND Hawkeye.
Shaft is the greatest Bowman to ever grace any comic universe.
*Looks at first sentence* Riiigghhtt…
Not that it matters, but the ‘lawbringer’ would have been a more suitable designation considering these boards.
To clear things up, I have only ever been Topaz on this site.
I dislike it when people change their names.
I use several names to include, Admin and Expert.
You wish you were as good a troll as Expert. I’m sorry but you are low quality.
You haven’t even see trolling yet…
I was liking this site… Seems to have a troll problem though, and an even worse problem with people actually responding to them, but hey, everyone knows thats how you get rid of a troll, pay attention to them of course. Oh wait, no, no it’s the opposite of that. My bad guys.
Too bad you don’t realize… this is the Troll training grounds.
Shaft’s horribly drawn anatomy gets in the way of him doing anything and thus he will lose your yet to be posted match up horribly.
You haven’t even see trolling yet…
Jeez what a newb, you can’t admit to trolling, that’s Trolling 101.
but hey, everyone knows thats how you get rid of a troll, pay attention to them of course.
I like to humor them, see what they can do. Murder is just meh.
Wait a second, I think you’re all forgetting something… Shaft is one bad mother-
The actual match though, I honestly can’t say the fight seems too close to me in terms of skill.
Black Shaft maybe but this is white Shaft, so you know he’s much smaller and less impressive.
@Zom SHUT YO’ MOUTH!!!
“Black Shaft maybe but this is white Shaft, so you know he’s much smaller and less impressive.”
WTF MAN!? You couldn’t just say SHUT YO MOUTH!? That was a setup I will likely never again get on Factpile…
“@Zom SHUT YO’ MOUTH!!!”
I effin love you…
Okay, enough off-topic silliness for me.
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