Suggested by Metacosmic Entity
The Marvel Villains are from Marvel Comics (Duh). I don’t know why he thinks they are capable of taking out all of DC Comics and Capcom on their own. So until Mr. Entity comes and say otherwise, I think its only fair that DC and Capcom only uses their villains against Marvel Villains. But even with that, DC and Capcom have a huge number advantage.
Can the Marvel Villains prove me wrong or is this two universe team too much for team Marvel?
Just to make it clear to everyone.
All three factions are using only their villains.
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That said, anyone with an idea of who can top Thanos with Heart of the Universe?
Thanos with the Heart of the Universe solos
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“Thanos with the Heart of the Universe solos”
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Apart from Doomsday dying and suddenly we found out he’s immune to reality warping.
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If we put Digimon, Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, and whatever other “mon” show there is, against Marvel, how far would they go?
My post is incomplete.
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“Apart from Doomsday dying and suddenly we found out he’s immune to reality warping.”
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Eh?
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On an unrelated note, if we put Digimon, Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, and whatever other “mon” show there is, against Marvel, how far would they go?
Hmmm…….May COIE Anti-Monitor could possibly have a chance? Since we aren’t going with current Villains, we could even go with Protege or someone along those lines (Can’t remember anymore)
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BTW, HOTU only makes you omnipotent in a single universe (Hence the name) there are multiversal threats out there (or, that have been out there) that are probably worse than Thanos…….scratch that, for a fact, are worse than Thanos
isnt pyron capcom?
And asura?
Asura is a villain in my mind. So, yeah. How does Marvel win again?
DC and Capcom only get villains , i forgot but Asuras counter parts are still leathal especially the ones bigger than the planet.
Celestials will be a big problem for DC and Capcom villains.
Galactus is going to cause problems. And there’s a lot fewer basic human villains on the Marvel side than on the DC Capcom side.
I don’t think Galactus counts as a villain, he’s pretty much just doing his job as a force of nature and hasn’t really been on bad terms with Earth 616 recently. Aren’t the Celestials also kinda neutral?
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I think with the whole DC-verse in on this, the Marvel villains won’t be winning. Thanos, as far as I know, not in possession of the Heart anymore so he’s left as just really fucking powerful villain. Without that, I think the likes of Krona, Swamp Thing, Lucifer, the Anti-Monitor, Superman Prime, the New Gods and the entirety of the GL corps among other entities could obliterate any Marvel villain below Thor levels of power.
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That would leave us with Thanos, Mephisto, Blackheart, Dormammu, Onslaught, and another extended list of villains whose names pass my mind at the moment.
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Can’t think of what Capcom has to offer…
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I’m torn largely, but I think the match is leaning towards DC.
Taskmaster solos.
Disregard my mention of Superman, the neutrals and the GL corps.
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Now, I think Marvel’s chances go up a large bit. Does Lucifer still count as a villain or is he neutral?
“Taskmaster solos.”
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This
/me waits patiently for some whacko toonforce ridiculously op villain from capcom to eventually rear his or her head.
How is Marvel going to stop this guy?
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I think they got a few tricks up their sleeves…
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqKnYIlU9Ps
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Doubt Bison can beat the Master of Magnet or the shield!
Magneto can be beaten:
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Yeah, I got nothing. Damn, Reed Richards…
Just put Doctor Doom and Thanos in the same room with some prep time and see what they come up with.
Doctor Doom with Prep time.
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Besides that, Thanos, Dark Phoenix, Magneto, Apocalypse…
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Are entire races allowed i.e. The Skrulls, The Ruul?
So basically.. imperillex vs galactus
thanos vs darkseid
doomsday vs apocalypse
sandman vs clay face
solomon grundy vs ……Hulksd considered a “hero” correct so i guess hes out. That and peak grundy is stronger then pc superman…..
“Doctor Doom with Prep time.
Besides that, Thanos, Dark Phoenix, Magneto, Apocalypse…”
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Mags isn’t a villain anymore sadly. Neither is Doom.
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However, they do have Emperor Vulcan, Ultron, and Onslaught among others.
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With the loss of their uber neutrals, I can’t side with DC here anymore.
The Chaos King Solos:
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zod,
Darkseid,
zoom,
Lucifer Morningstar,
Great evil beast,
Anti Monitor COIE,
Mandrakk,
the Dark Monitor ,
Mxyzptlk,
Zero Hour Parallax ,
Imperiex
and
Doomsday all seem like some legit villains for dc.
New 52 DC?
If so I think that means they get Helspont(at or above superman level)
Also these guys believe it or not
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@Lowk in a hat
Yeah but then 52 supes isn’t on pc supes level. So It’s actually worse imo.
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Nice hat by the way.
“Yeah but then 52 supes isn’t on pc supes level. So It’s actually worse imo.”
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Well Supes is currently strong enough to bench press the weight of earth for 5 days without sun so at least we know helspont his pretty strong. Plus he’s got mind rape and TK so he’s still somewhat of a threat.
@Soldier’s Shadow
“Mags isn’t a villain anymore sadly. Neither is Doom.”
What? I guess I need to catch up on my Marvel info.
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“However, they do have Emperor Vulcan, Ultron, and Onslaught among others.”
Good.
@Rhododendron
“So basically.. imperillex vs galactus
thanos vs darkseid
doomsday vs apocalypse
sandman vs clay face
solomon grundy vs ……Hulksd considered a “hero” correct so i guess hes out. That and peak grundy is stronger then pc superman…..”
It’s funny, a few of these are matches on the Pile already. That reminds me…
@Lowk in a hat
Yes but pc supes pulled several planets by a chain to another star:www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/10/108927/2155403-2_super.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/sa-composite-superman-vs-monarch/689627/&h=250&w=500&sz=47&tbnid=TWRhOA6jf-1cEM:&tbnh=63&tbnw=126&zoom=1&usg=__zsSEK5QnSSjPc8NKzJ_riqGeV3o=&docid=HZW7B8XXiErqDM&sa=X&ei=QPeCUMbZEOP-igKawoHoCw&ved=0CDEQ9QEwAQ&dur=153
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@Rorschach
Except peak Grundy vs world breaker hulk….
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Would Cyclops count as a villain now? I mean he basically to over magneto’s place and it wasn’t just thanks to the phoenix.
What about Omega? Hes a hybrid of Galactus and Thanos:
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Or the Galactus Engine from the Cancerverse.
Note: look how small 616 galactus compares to the Galactus Engine.
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or Dc and Marvel villains can combine to destroy capcom:
Thanoseid:
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Doomnaut:
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Dr. Doomsday:
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“Yes but pc supes pulled several planets by a chain to another”
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Yes we all know pc Supes was overpowered. I didn’t say he was. How exactly is that relevant to what I’m saying to Helspont being superman level? I’m talking post crisis/New 52 levels…. Minus the FTL.
“I didn’t say he was”
pre+crisis levels
Marvel has Omega a hybrid of Galactus and Thanos:
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And the unstoppable Trion Juggernaut:
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The hammer wielding Worthy:
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The Midgard Serpent (1/3 The wieght of the planet Earth) :
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To counter Doomsday Marvel Has Mangog:
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Surtur (who killed Odin):
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Well thats all i have for now ill be back with more.
You cant stop Zombie Hulk!!!!
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Maybe it would have been better to pit the Marvel villains against the DC and Capcom heroes instead of villains.
Marvel’s Godzilla soloed the Avengers and Fantastic Four:
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@Lowk in a hat
Whats current supes speed at any way?
@Doc Samson the Hellraiser
Hows that thing a counter for doomsday?
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Plus zombie hulks non cannon.
“BTW, HOTU only makes you omnipotent in a single universe (Hence the name) there are multiversal threats out there (or, that have been out there) that are probably worse than Thanos…….scratch that, for a fact, are worse than Thanos”
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I’m sorry what?
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Thanos Destroyed and Recreated the Entire Marvel Megaverse with it.
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Even if you don’t accept that he god stomped the LT who is Megaversal himself.
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The real name of HotU is Heart of the Infinite so don;t try and bullshit with that.
“Whats current supes speed at any way?”
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FTL.
@Darthgrim
“FTL.”
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^Thanks. By how much though?
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So is this guy on the dc villain side: villains.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Evil_Beast -He might pose a threat.
Ends in a stalemate
between
Thanos with the Heart of the Universe and The Great Evil Beast. Everyone else dies when the two clash.
@Slacker
From what I’ve read its was “the presence” evil half. In the end he merged with it. He may actually pull a win.
The Great Evil Beast was never really evil though.
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I’m not sure I would classify it as a Villain.
You are correct GEB is God’s flip side he is the darkness and powerful enough to wipe Spectre easily and Lucifer was scared of him or it I suppose. It basically stalemated God and they merged.
@Darthgrim
It was confused but it was evil nonetheless.
@Darthgrim
Isn’t he considered evil incarnate though? He should definitely count as a villain for this.
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Does marvel have any villains on par with him though?
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@man
Having a guy on par with the precence is strong enough for team two. giving them toon force just makes over kill.
Thanos with HotU is one of the strongest Villains to ever come out of Marvel.
@Darthgrim
So its between thanos with the heart of the universe and the great evil beast? How powerful is the heart of the universe(I don’t wanna just assume it’s merely universal as the name suggests)? Is said plot device on the level of the presence?
“Whats current supes speed at any way?”
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Some feats have put him in the hypersonic. I think his biggest before the time skip was in his beginnings when he hit somewhere in mach 30s. Other stuff like statments put him at or above faster then lightning. I think there is also a feat by Supergirl that might put them near lightspeed though…
@Lowk in a hat
Ehh darthgrim says hes still ftl so I’m unsure. and yeah supergirls usually faster then superman its like her only advantage added with not holding back.
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Anyway I’m arguing dc’s great evil beast right now which is on par with the presence.
Are there any notable Capcom Villains?
Well, Epicazeroth, why do you consider Asura a villain?
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But I think the only MAJOR Capcom villain is Chakravartin from Asura’s Wrath. He’s pretty close to Universal, at least in his Creation-powers. He’s also able to trade blows with Asura, which is a pretty good feat.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney%27s_Magical_Quest
Which would win: Heart of the Infinite or the Anti-Life Equation?
great evil beast,peak darkseid,imperillex,doomsday Chakravartin ,the seven deities etc I don’t see marvel pulling a win here.
Marvel.
Doom, Magneto, Reed Richards, Dark Phoenix(s), Thanos, Celestials, Hulk(debatable loyalty, he’s swings either way). And a crap load of smaller timers like Spiderman villains.
“Doom, Magneto, Reed Richards”
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None of those are villains, or at least anymore in Doom and Magnus’ cases.
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“Celestials”
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Still waiting on whether they’re regarded as evil or just chaotic neutral.
“Doom, Magneto, Reed Richards’
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‘None of those are villains, or at least anymore in Doom and Magnus’ cases.”
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In the Ultimate Universe however…..
Anti-Monitor?
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Why is it assumed that Thanos gets to use the Heart of the Universe?
I think man, who is “Metacosmic Entity”(I think), said.
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“That said, anyone with an idea of who can top Thanos with Heart of the Universe?”(man, post 1)
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So I think he meant to include the HOTU.
Unless he isn’t Metacosmic Entity
“In the Ultimate Universe however…..”
-Exactly. Doom, Richards, Magneto are villains of rather destructive capabilities.
I really don’t think man is Metacosmic Entity. I could be wrong, but I am quite certain that he isn’t.
Why is Capcom involved? I don’t think I remember any villains on their side who are anywhere near cosmic.
“Still waiting on whether they’re regarded as evil or just chaotic neutral.”
-Evil.
I agree with Soulerous, not sure what lead you to conclude that.
“I agree with Soulerous, not sure what lead you to conclude that.”
-Soulerous hasn’t even posted on this thread.
@Owner of post #70
Except Soulerous did at #66, I believe.
Posted twice in fact.
“Posted twice in fact.”
“Except Soulerous did at #66, I believe.”
-…Note to self, get eyes checked.
I’m not Metacosmic Entity. I’ve been a regular member of this site for a year now, I believe Meta only started posting here a few weeks ago.
“I agree with Soulerous, not sure what lead you to conclude that.”
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I thought he was because of post one but I make too much assumptions.
I thought he was because of post one
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I can see why you would. Thanos and the HoTU are associated with one another all the time here.
Lawwwwwl. I think man was just clarifying for the sake of any who might not have fully read the scenario. Thanks, man.
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But really, I think Thanos does not get the Heart of the Universe by default.
So, without HOTU and the infinity gauntlet,(Villains don’t have them.) I see this as a huge drop for Marvel villains……
Severely lacking on knowledge here, but I wonder if Sigma and Brainiac can’t make some sort of combined machine-ending virus together.
The Brain-Sigma virus?
“Lawwwwwl. I think man was just clarifying for the sake of any who might not have fully read the scenario. Thanks, man.”
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Precisely. And you’re welcome.
…What about Amazo? Or Owlman?
Capcom Brings out Asura’s Wrath villains, which are decently powerful. Augus, Wyzen, Yasha (sorta a villain) and Deus would be able to keep a lot of the lower tier Marvel people busy. Vlitra is big too, and Chakravartin has Multi-Planet/Solar system level durability and destructive capacity.
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Not huge on their own, but they are useful on the side at the least.
I’d think Thanos would get it simply because he was the greatest Villain Marvel ever had when he used it.
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Earth Shattering Kaboom
On the other side of the fence.
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And because everyone in this match is doomed anyway. (it isn’t canon, but still…)
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Mech armored dolphins assassins…. DC for the FP.
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I recall something about Emperor Joker, what was that all about?
“And because everyone in this match is doomed anyway.”
-Goofy-Galactus. I love it.
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“Mech armored dolphins assassins….”
-Holy crap! Those things are scary.
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“I recall something about Emperor Joker, what was that all about?”
-I believe the Joker was talking to a 5th-dimensional named Mr. Mxyzptlk, and then tricked him into giving him 99% of his power. Joker then proceeded to alter the cosmos to his whim. Mxyzptlk apparently possesses power ‘two degrees of infinity’ higher than any normal being, encompasses both time and hypertime in addition to our spatial dimensions, and is limited only by his imagination.
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Well, maybe just read it. he is considered a villain, though definitely more of a prankster.
Off-topic
@Soulerous
Your Gravatar reminds me of Ren Suzugamori from the CF Vanguard Anime. Is it him, or someone else?
Is Amazo considered a villian? if so does he counter marvels top tiers?
Dark phoenix is beaten by who in DC?
I still want to know the status of Lucifer in this match-up . Is he neutral or a bad-guy?
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Also, we go by Earth 616 Alpa and Tau, so it doesn’t matter if Doom and Mags are villains in the Ultimate verse still or not.
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The Asura’s Wrath baddies mentioned above could prove destructive additions to DC’s side.
Double post
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Was Emperor Joker a mainstream villain or is he an AU one?
I still want to know the status of Lucifer in this match-up .Is he neutral or a bad-guy?
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I believe Lucifer is neutral. Having resigned from being King of Hell and isn’t technically apart of the universe anymore. Like he literally left the universe at the end of his series.
“I believe Lucifer is neutral. Having resigned from being King of Hell and isn’t technically apart of the universe anymore. Like he literally left the universe at the end of his series.”
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He got new 52′d, he’s last seen in Demon Knights series making Etrigan’s life(and forgive the pun) hell.
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Nekron infects everybody with the T-Virus and gives them all black lantern rings. The only hope is multi-ring Norman Osborn wielding the infinity gauntlet. Later, he buys out Lexcorp for good measure.
So whos in the lead for victory,my money is on capcom and DC. The numbers and power push it that way.
I still don’t get how Thanos is going to stop Amazo. Won’t Amazo just.. become Thanos.. pretty much? Add in entire armies like the Black Lantern corps.. and Thanos I think will not just become overwhelmed but just make life harder for himself. Every time he takes down a villain they just come back with a power ring and regen on a Wolverine scale..
“Your Gravatar reminds me of Ren Suzugamori from the CF Vanguard Anime. Is it him, or someone else?”
-Though the resemblance is astounding, mine is no one in particular.
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“Was Emperor Joker a mainstream villain or is he an AU one?”
-I’m pretty sure the story happened in the Post-Crisis comic stories. He obviously doesn’t have the powers anymore, but Mister Mxyzptlk is still a villain in a very loose sense of the word..
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“I still don’t get how Thanos is going to stop Amazo.”
-Right you are.