Suggested by Paladino (via Twitter)
Point Man (F.E.A.R.), Team Fortress Soldier & Agent 47 (Hitman) face off against the Expendables and The Punisher.
An urban combat fight with limited ammo and populated by armed civilians plus hostility from local gangs which armed with standard gang equipment.
Which side would win?
I forsee a spectacle similar to many jellyfish being pulled through a tennis racket.
Oh wow I’m playing tf2 soldier right now lol
The TF2 Soldier seems kind of out of place here…
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Haven’t played TF2 in a while but aren’t there comics or something like that? Otherwise all we have to go off for him really is the Meet the Soldier video (the only TF2 member that’s more insane than Soldier is Pyro lol….).
WTF is standard gang equipment though? I’ve seen gang members use everything from .22s to assault rifles to submachine guns to LMGs. Even a rocket launcher. Any way the expendables are useless due to the inclusion of Pointman who’s a bullet timer. Agent 47 has superior combat ability as well as experience to everyone on team 2 except Castle. So basically they are dead weight. Castle could probably take any one person from team 1 but not all 3 cause his team members are going down fast.
@RedRuM
I cannot be more specific about Standard Gang Armament, so it depends on your view about what Standard Gang Armament consist of… & this is my first Suggestion sorry if I cannot make this more interesting… But Thanks Anyway.
@RedRuM
I cannot be more specific about Standard Gang Armament, so it depends on your view about what Standard Gang Armament consist of… & this is my first Suggestion sorry if I cannot make this fight more interesting… But Thanks Anyway.
Well what weapons do the actual teams gets? Castle and 47 have an entire armory to work with.
In this Scenario There will be 2 warehouses which contains Weapons for each team, both warehouses guarded by Gangbangers armed with weapons ranged from smg to lmg to rocket launcher, and both Team are not allowed to kill civilians, armed or not.
Funny, I was thinking that Team two had the advantage here. Punisher is more than capable of taking any one of team one on, and there are enough Expendables (Each a designated hero in his own right) To out down enough fire to pin down even Point-man easily enough.
“In this Scenario There will be 2 warehouses which contains Weapons for each team, both warehouses guarded by Gangbangers armed with weapons ranged from smg to lmg to rocket launcher, and both Team are not allowed to kill civilians, armed or not.”
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I can get behind this.
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“Funny, I was thinking that Team two had the advantage here. Punisher is more than capable of taking any one of team one on, and there are enough Expendables (Each a designated hero in his own right) To out down enough fire to pin down even Point-man easily enough.”
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I would agree except for the fact that Pointman regularly dealt with genetically engineered super soldiers as well as ghosts and other creatures. Pointman apparently moves to fast to be tracked and can weave in and out of bullets at will. If this trailer is anything to go by I don’t see how they can even target him
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3vxyPb-b64
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And he has no stamina meter here.
Also canonically Pointman killed 500 men solo in the first game alone. I don’t see even Castle topping that. And these were Replicas who are superior to human being in every way.
“Also canonically Pointman killed 500 men solo in the first game alone. I don’t see even Castle topping that. And these were Replicas who are superior to human being in every way.”
The Soldier is also superior to a human being in every way–he is an AMERICAN.
Okay, jokes aside, IF Pointman (who I don’t know anything about) is a badass-but-not-superpowered type, like the other participants, I see the Expendables+Punisher winning, as they have the numbers advantage. But it sounds like Pointman is some kind of superhuman, sooo…I’m thinking team 1 if that’s true. Replace him with something less superhuman and it would be more even (the A-Team and maybe somebody else, for instance, to even up the numbers. Maybe the TF2 team versus the Expendables? That’d be cool.)
“The Soldier is also superior to a human being in every way–he is an AMERICAN.
Okay, jokes aside, IF Pointman (who I don’t know anything about) is a badass-but-not-superpowered type, like the other participants, I see the Expendables+Punisher winning, as they have the numbers advantage. But it sounds like Pointman is some kind of superhuman, sooo…I’m thinking team 1 if that’s true. Replace him with something less superhuman and it would be more even (the A-Team and maybe somebody else, for instance, to even up the numbers. Maybe the TF2 team versus the Expendables? That’d be cool.)”
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He’s Human but he’s also the by-prodcut of a combination of a psychokinetic mother and genetic enhancements to the give him bullet time reflexes. And he’s very fast.
If Expendables take their Role as a Squad I think Point Man have maybe 50% of winning, since there are Gunnar and Billy the Kid(if you want to use Expendables 2 characters) which give team 2 Advantage for having more than 1 Sniper
Isn’t Point Man can use his Bullet Time/Super Reflex for limited amount of tim, and if we want to balance it, he can use his super reflex for about 10-15 seconds and he need 1-5 minutes to recharge his power
“If Expendables take their Role as a Squad I think Point Man have maybe 50% of winning, since there are Gunnar and Billy the Kid(if you want to use Expendables 2 characters) which give team 2 Advantage for having more than 1 Sniper”
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You also have to take into account Mr.47. He’s a master manipulator who can likely assume the role of one of the gangs outside and force them into battle with team 2. And he has the most pure skill out of everyone in the match due to being trained in every form of combat and assassin techniques since the day he was born and possesses unerring accuracy. Also he’s a little stronger then the average human allowing him to walk firing a minigun.
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“Isn’t Point Man can use his Bullet Time/Super Reflex for limited amount of tim, and if we want to balance it, he can use his super reflex for about 10-15 seconds and he need 1-5 minutes to recharge his power”
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No that’s just game mechanics. As far as I’m aware its always on. And limiting it to 15 seconds likely won’t help. It doesn’t even last that long in game and you can kill a whole squad in that time.
“No that’s just game mechanics. As far as I’m aware its always on. And limiting it to 15 seconds likely won’t help. It doesn’t even last that long in game and you can kill a whole squad in that time.”
-But, even with super reflex, it can be Hard if the Expendables team Scatter, and we cannot forget Punisher and Toll Road can also set explosive Trap, also the terrain is Urban, which means there are lots of buildings, and it can be Hard to search 1-by-1 even if you have super reflex and 47 also need to be careful too as the Scenario, most Gang recognize each other like somekind small family so he cannot easily manipulate the gang and also the civilians are Armed.
Pointman has amazing reflexes, but he can be killed by a bullet just as easily as the next man. And he can’t outrun them. Enemies in games usually can’t hit the broad side of the barn.
The expendables has Fuck chucking Norris, so they win by default.
“The Expendables have Chuck fucking Norris, so they lose by default.”
Fix’d *slaps hands together*
If his character is part of the Expendables for the purposes of this match, they win.
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Did you not see him in action? No, you didn’t because he kicked ass so fast there was a hail of bullets, an exploded tank and then silence.
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Plus, if we add him, we also add Arnie, who pulled the door off a smart car, and Stallone for that matter, who was shot and then… nothing, really, he barely sodding noticed.
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These are not “military guys who do well”, they’re all, to the man, action movie protagonists. Barring that one guy… You know the one. Bullets curve around them, or just bounce off their pecs. If Point-man dodges their bullets, Statham with just knife his damn eyes out. Because that guy is ludicrously fast mid-combat.
Pointman and 47 that’s messed up.
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Anyway Punisher is a pretty good sniper. If it hadn’t been for sentry there’d be one less osborn running around.
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How far off in the distance he was to the city
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Yeah, this is just way too much of a numbers advantage.
The punisher plays a heavy role in this match because he was skilled enough to shoot a super speedster so he maybe able to tag point man
Yes, I know Team 2 stomps, but I just hate Chuck. Except when he gets beat up. But I digress. Anyway, the only way this becomes remotely fair is if the whole TF2 team is here.
I see Team Fortress up there, does that go for the robots and bosses?
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i mean, you know, HHH would kill everyone
wait, nevermind
Chuck Norris didn’t count to the Expendables
Because he works alone
“I have personally killed 6,578 men in cold blood while looking them in the eye; jumped on 1,336 live grenades; and stuffed fourteen feet of my own intestine back into my stomach.”
-TF2 Soldier
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I am asuming most of the kills that he was talking about is from his solo slaughter in WWII, thats all the feats I know on him.
“These are not “military guys who do well”, they’re all, to the man, action movie protagonists. Barring that one guy… You know the one. Bullets curve around them, or just bounce off their pecs. If Point-man dodges their bullets, Statham with just knife his damn eyes out. Because that guy is ludicrously fast mid-combat.”
-no protagonist plot shield from movie allowed, same goes to the other characters.
I know team 1 has some pretty amazing players. But aside from the punisher, how good are the expendables?
@Doc Page
We can see their skills from the movie and 4 Expendables comic Issues
“But, even with super reflex, it can be Hard if the Expendables team Scatter, and we cannot forget Punisher and Toll Road can also set explosive Trap, also the terrain is Urban, which means there are lots of buildings, ”
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That’s really all you fought in in FEAR. He’s pretty much got urban combat down packed.
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If his character is part of the Expendables for the purposes of this match, they win.
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Did you not see him in action? No, you didn’t because he kicked ass so fast there was a hail of bullets, an exploded tank and then silence.
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Plus, if we add him, we also add Arnie, who pulled the door off a smart car, and Stallone for that matter, who was shot and then… nothing, really, he barely sodding noticed.
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“These are not “military guys who do well”, they’re all, to the man, action movie protagonists. Barring that one guy… You know the one. Bullets curve around them, or just bounce off their pecs. If Point-man dodges their bullets, Statham with just knife his damn eyes out. Because that guy is ludicrously fast mid-combat.”
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I can’t tell if your joking or serious. But there’s not a single person on Team 2 that can keep up with Point Man except Castle. Castle is the only person here that has experience in dealing with metahumans with super human speed and agility and he usually takes them via PIS and the lot of preparation.
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But we are ignoring the TF Soldier though. What exactly can he do since I don’t play that game.
““The Expendables have Chuck fucking Norris, so they lose by default.”
Fix’d *slaps hands together*”
GTFO infidel!
Part joking, part serious. The problem is you can’t really debate the Expendables without plot armour, any more than you can debate Captain America or Batman without a modicum of plot armour allowance. Their whole schtick is “Wins when others don’t because of plot”, excepting where “plot” is replaced with “explosions”.
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To debate for an Expendables match is to debate for any of the 80′s action heroes that were played by… well, most of that cast. And the vast majority of them lived because bullets pointlessly avoided them or otherwise hit them and just grazed off their ludicrously formed pecs.
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Let’s put it this way. The very beginning scene of the first movie features Stallone and Statham taking on a horde of mooks because…. something something pirates. Now, they could take out all the pirates from ther safe vantage point. And they take out a few, granted. And then comes a scene where Stalone uses a pistol to outdraw numerous men with automatic weapons. Statham does the same with KNIVES. Outdrawing men with automatic weapons when their guns are already trained on you is impressive when you’re using a pistol. When using knives it’s superman levels of speed.
Can we please have more tf2 matches? Please????? Also, more matches need to be set in pyroland.
“Can we please have more tf2 matches? Please????? Also, more matches need to be set in pyroland.”
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Can’t tell if joking or trolling…
@ZomBlank
No really
From what I read on Point Man, he is good at killing. Same for the tf2 soldier. Hitman on the other hand is good at killing also…just not on the flamming airplans and blowing up tanks level.
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We would need to think about the hand to hand combat also, if it would ever come down to that.
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knowing the tf2 soldier was kicked out of all branches of the army, I would think he knows a lot on military combat…then thats asuming he made it through Boot Camp befor getting kicked out….
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We need Point Man and Hitman fans on here for the other info.
well if the movie counts. hitman carries those two swords on him.
@Smeagolicious
How about the entire TF 2 team vs a Unreal Tournament 2004 team? Been waiting a while to see something from UT on factpile :c
I dunno much about Unreal tho’
Unreal Tournament?
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Xan solo’s
“We need Point Man and Hitman fans on here for the other info.”
As much as I Know Agent 47 is engineered to be Real Deal Assassin from birth, in his DNA contain the info about 4 Dangerous International Crime Boss, and also have limited super strength allowed him to walking and firing minigun and the same time, also he is something we can call Magnificent Bastard, since most of assassination by him really perfect, also master of disguise despite having tattoo on the back of his head, also surviving large caliber pistol shot on his stomach(from the third game)
Well, being a TF2 fan and all… SOLDIER GOES AND DECIDES TO “Beat the crap out of every single one!”
But in all seriousness, the soldier doesn’t have typical weaponary. If he gets things like the gunboats, mantreads, Bison and/or CM5000 then rocket jumps… let’s say more interesting than an smg.
The gunboats paired with the Black Box or CM500 could mean multiple rocket jumps with consistent healing and five laser rockets/ Mini-crit charge shot respectively.
The Direct Hit does crits (I think) to airborne foes, and the reserve shooter does mini-crits.
So unless you can somehow fly… You’re going to be doging a lot of rocket rain!
Also Beggar’s Bazooka.
Oh yes, sorry if this is a double post but the neither the Bison nor Cow Mangler 5000 require ammuntion, so say goodbye to that problem.
If these and other soldier weapons are not allower… well, there’s still rocket jumping.
Pointman, TF2 Soldier, Agent 47, and the Punisher can disarms armed civilians
Encouraged for both teams to take any weapons from dead Gangbangers and disarming armed Civilians since the scenario giving both team small amount of ammunitions from beginning
Well I see above, three almost super human men, against a team of top skilled soldiers. Team two are still human, and havent been known to take direct shot from a rocket and still walk away.
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I see Point Man and the Agent doing most of the tactical kills.
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As much as I love tf2 and the soldier from it, he might not do as well, seeing that little ammo will be set for him and his rocket-luncher.
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Being in a urban area, this could very easly go into a fight with the hands/melee. I know Point Man and the Agent can win at it, having above human skill. The soldier my have more of a match, witch is asuming he has the same combat value as any of the guys on team 2.
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I want to say team 1 wins this, maybe just losing the soldier in battle…but I want to see someone fight for team 2 first.
“I want to say team 1 wins this, maybe just losing the soldier in battle…but I want to see someone fight for team 2 first.”
Team 2 I think have a chance
They have 2 snipers Gunnar and Billy (maybe 3 since Castle also a capable sniper) while Team 1 only have 1 which is only 47, who might not take the role of a Sniper. snipers can be real trouble for team 1 since team 2 snipers can just hide in different buildings waiting for target, Soldier might be the easiest target for team 2 since 47 is Like a TF Spy combined with Jason Bourne and Point Man having Bullet Time reflex and might be Limited healing factor. We also cannot forget team 2 demolition expert Toll Road who can set explosive traps and their Long range heavy weapon specialist Hale Caesar.
^ all that plus the tactical genius of castle.
i know they dont have prep time but im pretty sure they would get to know each other
Team 2 I can be more Effective in the teamwork because of Similiarty between the Expendables and the Punisher
But team 1 consist of 2 effective Loner. And 1 somehow short Tempered Soldier, 47 and Point Man maybe can survive on their own due to their Lone wolf mentality, while I Don’t know much About Soldier I cannot say much about Soldier
”47 is Like a TF Spy ”
I wouldn’t be too sure about that, Spy knows everything when it comes to disguise and infiltration (everybody in TF is a freak on their own turf), he has a holographic disguise and he can assume the personality of anybody, never seen agent 47 do something like that, sure 47 can disguised and act but not half as good as spy.
Spy also has this device that deactivates any sort of electric equipment.
Here watch his video.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR4N5OhcY9s
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Have you guys ever seen scout, Heavy is suppose to be the strongest in the team yet Scout plays around with him, supposedly the hood where he came from is so dangerous that the guy can literally fight in wars with just a baseball bat, not joking.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=geNMz0J9TEQ&feature=relmfu
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Soldier is just……… well….. just see for yourself.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=h42d0WHRSck&feature=relmfu
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Engineer can place turrets, this is very useful for team 1, they got the advantage of placing defenses.
This shows just how reliable they are.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNgNBsCI4EA&feature=relmfu
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Sniper, like all of the TF, they are the best that the TF world can offer, you won’t expect any less from what they do, Sniper is the father of sniping in the TFverse, you can consider him as much of a sniper as the rest of the top snipers in this round.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NZDwZbyDus&feature=relmfu
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Medic, now this is when things get good, this guy can make any one of team 1 invulnerable to damage, as long as medic takes cover, his host alone could tank anything team 2 throws at him, and he can regenerate any wound or lost limbs, another great advantage that gives us many strategies that team 1 can unleash against team 2 (imagine what a mind so brilliant like 47′s would do with such advantage), I say Team 2 is in for some punishing.
This video is my favorite.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=36lSzUMBJnc&feature=related
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Pyro, no comment.
All I got to say is that I wouldn’t like to be on Team 2 right now.
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Demoman, if team 1 want’s to blow something up, they got the wright man, he also can set traps with bombs and all that.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWBeqNYihjQ&feature=related
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Heavy is the weapons guy, I don’t think the smartest thing to do in this match is to walk in and gun everyone down, lets face it, Heavy is not that guy that does that smart thing, but when he doesn’t do the smart thing, he does it good.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QM1eTAwOYc&feature=relmfu
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This is all I got to say for TF, I just thought they weren’t getting much attention on their skills, all I got to say is that you won’t be expecting nothing but the top best from TF.
And one more thing, the expendables seem to be a bit low tire compared to the rest of the players in here don’t you guys think, the expendables are too grounded by realism (I know they done some exaggerated feats but compared to the rest, I don’t think so).
In just the first encounter, Team 2 will be reduced by allot, probably the last man standing for the team 2 will be the Punisher, but he will eventually fall, only if he had more guys with good feats on his team.
The Scout canonically runs at FTL speeds according to this item: wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Cross-Comm_Express
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And since the Soldier’s speed is comparable to the Scout, it is obvious that he moves at near light-speed. He completely speed-blitzes the other team.
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His rockets can also send people flying what appear to be several hundred meters in Meet the Medic.
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TF2 is ridiculously powerful.
To reiterate:
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So who all from tf2 is in the fight
@Amm0vamp1r3
just the soldier, they just didn’t shorten it from Team Fortress to TF.
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just as a recap, the soldier from tf2 did personaly fly over to Germany during WWII and killed hundreds of Nazis on his own. This is most likely why they lost the war in the TF2 univers.
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All characters on TF2 are very, very, good at what they do. It just may not seem like it when you play on a server full of bad players. Just read the TF2 wiki and find out…all TF2 characters can easly act as a one man army.
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exept scout….he’s a jerk
After seeing those videos about the people. if this was anyone of the other people i may go with team 1 but the soldier seems kind of stupid and loud giving away team 1s position.
If ammo is actually at a premium here, per the description, Point Man and 47 have a distinct advantage, as their accuracy would be notably superior to that of most of Team 2.
That being said … it’s a 3 versus how many?
If Team 2 splits up … they’ll get defeated in detail, if they stick together, they’ll get picked off one by one.
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“Standard gang equipment” is ridiculously vague. Standard gang equipment for where? A US city (if so, which one?)? Mexico? Canada? Colombia? Syria? Iran? China? Japan?
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Under the presumption that Point Man is in full combat gear (as is standard for F.E.A.R.) … I believe that he would be wearing armor on top of bullet timing, so putting him down before he puts them down is going to be difficult for Team 2.
Don’t forget that team 2 has a tendency to ignore ammo issues in typical action hero style.
Cananatra, I refer you back to the match description, wherein it contains the phrase “with limited ammo”.
Therefore, ammunition consumption is going to be a concern for this match. As Team 2 has a number of profligate triggermen, they will burn through their ammunition faster than Team 1 (or, at least, faster than Point Man and 47 – I’m not quite sure how TFSoldier’s ammunition expenditure habits compare with Team 2′s) – mix in Point Man’s bullet timing (and dodging) capabilities, accuracy levels (at least against him) aren’t going to be very good. If Team 2 runs low (or out) of munitions, their efficacy will be significantly reduced.
Admittedly, they may well be able to acquire new weapons and ammo from the “armed civilians” and the gangs, but that makes what they are supplied with important.
“Standard gang equipment” is ridiculously vague. Standard gang equipment for where? A US city (if so, which one?)? Mexico? Canada? Colombia? Syria? Iran? China? Japan?”
Sorry cannot be more specific, Standard Gang Equipment(SGE) In this scenario ranged from pistol like glock to smg like uzi mp5 tec9 to rifle like ak47 m16 to shotgun to lmg to rpg 7 as their main rocket launcher
Dude … a gang in say, Chicago, or other US city, is going to be mostly handguns and machine pistols on the street – that is, readily concealable and replaceable weapons, with shotguns and rifles available, but in smaller numbers, and very few support weapons (ie, M60, etc).
A gang in say, Mexico, where the drug cartels have turned the place into what’s effectively a warzone are going to be more heavily armed than that, as they’re going to have more fully automatic weapons, and are often going to be less concerned about concealed carry capability, and have much more in the way of military grade support weaponry.
A gang in say Syria (right now, anyways) is effectively either with the militias or the rebels, and some of those subfactions have weapons such as mortars and .50 cals, available, in addition to RPGs.
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What kind of urban environment? Old European urban? American urban? Asian megacity urban? Middle Eastern urban?
They vary, and they vary in the kinds of gangs (and gang armament) they have in them.
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The different grades of ‘standard gang equipment’ for different kinds of gangland environments matter for this match, especially since teams 1 and 2 are limited on ammo per the match stipulations.
The Urban terrain will be Detroit like and the gang will be more like a drug cartel militant
Dude. The Soldier runs close to light speed. Can the other team match this?
Dude his shotgun didn’t effective for long range or shooting while running and rules of limited ammo come to play from the beginning
I’m not sure how that is relevant to what I said.
That’s because I suck using soldier on TF 2 of course that is not relevant
Okay.
Since nobody else has said much more, I’d say Team 1 curb stomps due to the Soldier running at close to light speed (and thus having FTL rockets and massively FTL bullets).
I still Doubt about Soldier’s Rocket Velocity though
wait…when did the soldier have the ability to run at light speeds?
See post 54 and 55.
ha, ok. when it says, “you may have to slow down for it to catch up.” its not saying that the scout is running at light speeds….its just apart of the tf2 humor that is in almost every hat and gun in tf2.
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scout just runs fast….not that fast
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i loled anyway
It’s canon! I thought the philosophy around here was ‘it doesn’t matter since it makes sense, if it’s canon.’ At least, that’s what all of the Halo supporters said to me in regards to MAC yields and stuff… why should it not apply to TF2? Since… TF2 in general doesn’t make sense.
yes….i must say TF2 stuff can get weird, like cutting someone’s head off by aiming at their feet…lol
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but then again. if they where all able to run at that speed, that would mean the scout (if using the Baby Face’s Blaster) can run double the speed of light….wich is (making dumb caculations…) around the world twice in a second.
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then we just give the solider the eqaulizer and watch as he kills everyone in a matter of seconds. I’m starting to like this logic….think we can pit the soldier aganst Samus?
Don’t forget… massively FTL bullets. I’m thinking these guys could compete against certain space forces even…
so is this toon force FTL or like the flash FTL
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punisher has some good aim
Decently impressive, but not nearly enough to hit the Soldier (moving at close to light speed).
Tempted to say Terry Crew solo’s XD
how is the soldier close to light speed, i dont know TF
Again, see posts 54 and 55.
he didnt look that fast in the meet the soldier trailer. Even the scout although fast just barely missed the train almost destroying him
Well, if we put all sillyness aside. Soldier runs at normalish speeds. due to pure logic that if he was running at near light speeds his flesh would tare off just from the wind he runs into.
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But thats not saying that he can’t kill shit….like I said in post #29, he killed a good 6,578 men in witch im asuming is mostly in his solo win in WWII….he even made himslef some medels showing it off.
The trailers and media is obviously slowed down to a ridiculous degree so we can see it. In actuality, battles in TF2 likely occur in milliseconds.
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Then all the TF2 guys are blindly running around shoot randomly, since they are all going faster than the speed of light making it impossible for any of them to see combat happening in real time….
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lol, if these people where THAT fast, then the HHH would be one of the strongest beings known to me, just be a few clicks under Dr. Manhattan in my list.
Perhaps they don’t ‘see’ in the conventional way through light, and have other senses…?
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Like I said, regardless of whether it makes sense, it is canon.
“This full spectrum battle monocle receives signals from a satellite at light speed, which means you may have to slow down a little so they can catch up to you.”-Description
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“This full spectrum battle monocle receives signals from a satellite at light speed,”
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….? It says receiving signals at light-speed.
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“which means you may have to slow down a little so they can catch up to you”
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The second part means that you are faster than the rest of the members of the TF2. He is only receiving signals at the speed of light, and he only gets faster by it, but not as fast as the speed of light. If Scout was actually as fast as light, I would play as him instead of Demo
“The second part means that you are faster than the rest of the members of the TF2. He is only receiving signals at the speed of light, and he only gets faster by it, but not as fast as the speed of light.”
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Um, what? It doesn’t say that it all. What it is clearly saying is that, since the signals are moving at the speed of light, the Scout may have to slow down a bit for the signals to catch up with him. It is pretty clear.
I thought what they meant by “they” was the other members of TF2. My bad.
The hat that implies that the scout is running at the speed of light was made for the Ghost Recon game, to help sell it.
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This implies that the hat is not canon due to it being from, and based off of, a different game.
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Case dismissed….
“Case dismissed….”
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No, not at all. It may be based off of another game, but the fact that the item is in the game means that it must be counted, unless you can bring evidence to the contrary. The item is tailored for the game (it’s artstyle and name), and wearable in-game, and thus it is part of the game.
just because its in the game doesnt means its canon
@Amm0vamp1r3
True
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if we REALLY want Canon we would have to look at all the hats and guns that where in the, Meet the Team, videos. Witch are canon, and none have the scout in that hat
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Case dismi…..il wait
What the hell? The fact that it is in-game, and, in fact, WEARABLE in game means that it is part of the game, and thus part of the game’s canon. This isn’t a difficult concept. TF2 has no canon policy, which means everything must be included, and you guys are making completely baseless claims.
Even if we disregard the FTL quote, here are some other calcs for TF2 players that I found:
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“Sasha fires 12,000 rounds per minute out of game. Ingame (and therefore in ingame cinematics like Meet the Heavy) it fires 10 shots a second, with each ‘shot’ being 4 projectiles. So on a low end, TF2 characters move and react 2.5 times faster than they do in cinematics. High-end, that’s 10 times.
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However, things seem to fall at normal speed. How can this be?! Clearly, gravity is also higher, by anywhere from 2.5 to 10 times.
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The Scout is almost certainly stronger and tougher than a Space Marine. The Scout.”
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No matter which way you look at it, TF2 is ridiculously powerful.
Sorry for the triple post, but adding to the above calc:
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“As seen in Meet The Medic, Scouts can take direct hits from rockets and only suffer broken bones. Scouts are by far the most fragile things in the game.
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As seen in Meet The Heavy, the Heavy Weapons Guy can control a 23mm gatling gun firing at 10,000 rounds per minute without going flying. Note that this gives him more strength than some jet engines. If a Spartan tried that stunt, they would end up flying into the wall behind them if they didn’t break all their fingers from the recoil.
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Similarly, we know that in Meet The Heavy, Sasha fires 10,000 rpm. Yet, in every cinematic, it fires at a rate much lower than that (you can spot the tracers), meaning that Team Fortress 2 combatants move and react anywhere from 5 to 20 times faster than normal human beings. Even Heavy Weapons Guy, who walks at some ridiculously slow pace, can outrun cars.
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Finally, we know that even gross trauma isn’t capable of killing these super-tough tanks. In Meet The Medic, you see Heavy Weapons Guy surviving without a functioning cardiovascular system, and a Spy functioning without an entire body.
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The Soldier’s shotgun is capable of blowing the head of one of these super-human killing machines apart.”
dang…..I guess until we find out from the TF2 people the precise speed of the Scout other than 120% or 84% (their way of doing speed) we will go with lightspeeds….
Plus it’s way more fun that way anyway!